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The Prophecies Fulfill…Again

Iraq has become “an unbelievable disaster”, especially for all the poor people living there, as Meier undeniably foretold – 56 years ago

Billy Meier reported today’s news – 56 years ago – when he stated:

“…in Iraq a war will be led through the United States of America, through their country’s president, however this will be without success, for which reason one of his sons, who will likewise be the U.S.A’s head of power, will, in the third millennium, unleash a second war in Iraq which will ultimately lead to an unbelievable disaster and to torturing as well as to mass murder through U.S. armed forces and the rebellious. “

As I’ve previously stated, while we have plenty of verifiable, copyrighted documentation that Meier published his prophetic information before the long foretold events, or so-called “official discovery”, it is confirmation such as the preceding from Meier – verifiably published well before this ever-unfolding disaster began – that will ultimately establish the ironclad authenticity of his prophetic information…unfortunately.

Rest assured though that the deniers, religious believers and skeptics, all of the shortsighted ones for whom profit, possessions and worldly distractions trump the urgent recognition of the truth, will continue to blindly ignore that which doesn’t seem to concern them, that which hasn’t yet exploded in…their home.

The truth of the matter though is that what foretold as long as 63 years ago has indeed been exploding in all our homes, though for most it hasn’t yet taken on the undeniable proportions and inflicted the inescapable damage which, if Meier was correct (and anyone still poses common sense) is fast approaching. However, despite our rapidly evaporating attention spans for anything other than watching people throw or kick a ball around, for some who’ve been paying attention and personally witnessing, certain manifestations of our abuse of nature have indeed “become ever more violent and destructive.” Indeed, what else can they now say but, “I can’t believe it!”?

More apparent Corroboration of Meier’s Information – note the similarity of the descriptions:

From the Times of India:

“A massive reservoir of water three times the size of Earth’s oceans have for the first time been located hundreds of miles underneath the surface of the planet. Researchers from Northwestern University and the University of New Mexico provided the first ever evidence for potentially oceans worth of water deep beneath the United States.”

From CR 540 from May 12, 2012 

“An disturbing influence takes place, e.g., with regard to the movements of the earths petroleum lakes located in the interior of the planet, as enormous masses of water also located in the interior of the earth, will however move in equal measure, which would bedeck the whole earth kilometers-high, would they penetrate to the outside.”

And Did They Listen?” – the first award-winning film to be banned at a major university in more than 20 years – just won its first award in a film festival, the Award of Merit at the Accolade Film Festival. Unfortunately though, the answer to the film’s title is become ever clearer.

See also:

The Billy Meier UFO Case: Now You Can Prove It to Yourself

Thanks to Bruce, Chris, Shaban and others for information updates.

 

 

 

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Simon

Is there actually any evidence those 1951 and 1958 letter were really written/send/published in 1951 and 1958, since they were only republished in 2005, when the prophecies/predictions already came true? Have any of those 1951 and 1958 letters showed up in archives, old newspapers etc.?

Tony Vasquez - Astrologer

Hi Simon,

Why are you asking this?

Andy

Tony, I left a question for you on the astrology thread. Please give me an answer, so that I can then get off your back a bit if your predictions are really coming true like you are claiming they are on that blog page.

Simon

Look, I’m sympathetic to Figu’s case, I think many of the warnings and solutions etc. are legitimate, as far as I studied and understand them. However, I’m not going to accept anything Figu says without questioning. They themselves even teach to question everything.

Since these prophecies/predictions were allegedly sent in 1951/1958, so they were meant to be published, I find it a little bit odd they were only republished in 2005 and not between 1975-1980 or something. Someone being able to predict these events 60 years before they happen is quite something. Don’t you think it’s a legitimate question whether this can be verified?

Simon

That Mercury shrinks has been known since the 1974 Mariner 10 mission. I happened to have checked the Ice-man corroboration recently in an old Semjase Block (presumably from before 2001), and somehow the text was different then your scan, the crucial information about the arrow wasn’t there, apparently there has been corrections/additions in newer Semjase Block editions. Can you imagine this might look ‘suspicious’ to some people? Also, a lot of the corroborations from ‘As the time fulfills’ are from contact reports 197-231, which are NOT published in the Semjase Blocks, because of Billys injury in 1982, but only in the Plejadisch-Plejarische Kontakt Berichte, when many of the prophecies/predictions in those contact reports already came true.

Again, this doesn’t mean those conversations never took place and Billy Meier is a phony. But does it qualify as evidence? No.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Simon,

I was not implying that it was an illegitimate question, because for you, it was. But obviously you have not done a sufficient amount of research into the Meier material, if you had, you would not have asked such a question. So, I suggest that you do your research work first, then ask questions.

Simon

Isn’t part of research asking questions? Hence my question: is there any evidence those 1951 and 1958 letters were really written/send/published in 1951 and 1958? I’m not aware of it, does anybody else know? That’s all I really mean with that question. It would be really fascinating to find these letters in an old newspaper/magazine/archive. But if the answer is ‘no’, ok, fair enough, but then I cannot know for sure, no problem, I can live with that. There’s so many things that are true for which there is no evidence available.

I think one can hardly do enough research into the Meier case, it’s such an extensive case with so many aspects, even a lifetime of research will leave many parts unexplored.

According to you, what should I have researched in order for me NOT to have asked ‘such a question’?

Simon

With prophecies/predictions it’s plain and simple IMO: is there evidence the prophecy/predictions were published before the event(s) occurred or not? If so, it’s a real prophecy/prediction, if not, I don’t know, but maybe the context can tell me more.

I’m all for looking at ‘the big picture’, so you can also zero in on conclusions about things for which there is no direct evidence. But it’s also good to look at separate issues and look for direct evidence. If there isn’t any, or not enough, we can look at the context en see if we can reach any preliminary conclusions until we find (more) evidence. But, IMO, such conclusions aren’t 100% certain.

Off course, the issues mentioned by Meier in the 1951 and 1958 letter are real problems that need our immediate attention. With regard to that, it doesn’t matter if Meier predicted it or not or if Meier or someone else says it.

Simon

Well… the problem is: I personally went through all the corroborations (from ‘Will humanity wake up in time?’ page from futureofmankind) in the SKBs and I found time and again the crucial information of the crbr was not there, or the crbr was in a part of the contact report that wasn’t published in the SKB, but only in the PPKB. The SKBs are really very different from the PPKBs and a lot of the crbr info simply isn’t there. Is that evidence for back-dating? Well… not exactly, but a lot of crucial crbr info is only published in the PPKB after the events occured or discoveries were made. I wasn’t really expecting (and hoping?) to find that, but it is what I found. I can’t change that. Also Mahigitam found a lot of older relevant articles that predate the crbr’s that were found in the SKB’s which leaves us with zero legitimate crbr’s AT THIS POINT. So that’s why I’ve grown a little bit skeptical about the ‘evidence for prophecies/predictions aspect’ of the case.

Again, this is an entire different issue then the legitimate problems that are addressed by Figu.

Andy

Simon,

Don’t mind Tony, he prefers people to simply blindly BELIEVE things. Your questions are more than legitimate. Should they not be welcome, the Meier camp would be akin to the various belief systems we rail against (a position Tony is apparently, strangely, in favor of).

No, there doesn’t seem to be proof that I am aware of that the letters were indeed written in ’51 and ’58.

But, as Michael points out, there other instances where Meier verifiably published pre- event/discovery. And, again echoing Michael, things continue to unfold in present day, which were allegedly written in ’58, but verifiably posted online before their occurrence. Things like the subject of this blog.

And there is of course the increasingly strong evidence of the photos and videos — “increasingly strong” because of the new analyses of them. See recent blog posts here on the subject.

And please do have a look at the teaching itself, found in the Goblet of Truth (freely available online), the Might of Thoughts, The Psyche, Contact 10, etc. This to me is proof as good as any that Meier is privy to info light years beyond all other terrestrial sources. Enriching, empowering, inspiring, fascinating stuff.

At the risk of giving a religious-sounding anecdote myself — as the teaching is sinking into me, slowly but surely positive changes in my attitude, actions, and circumstances are actualizing. Sometimes I can’t help but gush as to how powerful and wonderful the spiritual teaching really is.

Simon

@Andy

Well indeed this case has many aspects and layers. That’s why I’m not at all done with it. I just don’t want to have a black and white opinion about it like ALL what Meier/Figu says is by definition true, or when I find one photo or prophecy that seems fake that means they are all a bunch of liars. It’s just not that simple. From what I have found I just have to conclude that many if not all of the corroborations from ‘As the time fulfills’ are not demonstrable after all, because they weren’t published in the Semjase blocks before the events/discoveries etc. These are demonstrable facts, I can’t change them, so I cannot recommend that movie as indisputable evidence anymore. Then there is the impressive amount of witness testimony, spiritual teachings, and so on which can also be explored. I just want to go through all this stuff and see what happens. I just don’t want to force my opinion into a direction that doesn’t correspond to the facts/evidence.

Tony - Astrologer

A fool can ask many more questions than a wise man can answer. And words are always available to even the worst idiots.

Andy

Fools talk thee talk, but fail to walkity the walk.

See, I can make up aphorisms too.

But to be clear, was your made-up or [again] unattributed words in response to my question I mentioned I left for you on the astrology thread??

That is how you respond to sincere questions that are submitted to you on a thread that graciously WAS CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU TO FIELD QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR ASTROLOGY???

Simon

@Tony

That may be true, but you can also misuse this proverb to counter any question that someone asks.

I think the meaning of this proverb is that no one is responsible or obliged to answer another persons questions and that everybody is responsible for finding the answers for him/herself. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t ask questions to other persons or you shouldn’t answer questions that other persons ask you, but on the basis of equality and helping each other out. Not because ‘the wise’ are responsible or obligated for answering the questions of ‘the fools’.

Tony - Astrologer

Michael, what do you think about the quote below from Simon?

You know my stance towards doubters, skeptics, and self-appointed “judges” of the Meier case. They demonstrate a pathetic ignorance, short-sightedness, lack of good judgment, and a huge lack of understanding of the MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE IN THE CASE. I know that you have patience with them, and employ diplomacy at all times, but I take a hard stance towards them – DO THE WORK, THAT WE ALL HAVE DONE, THAT HAS BROUGHT US TO THE CONCLUSION, THAT THE MEIER CASE IS REAL, AND THERE IS NO FRAUD WITHIN IT, AND NO BACK DATING. Asking questions laced with skepticism and doubt serve no purpose. If you fail to see that the Meier case is real, true, and very important, that’s your loss, not mine, nor anyone else’s.

As I have said many times, a true personal investigation into the evidence with an open-mind is the ONLY way to the truth. Some people can’t see their face because their nose is on it.

Simon said,

“From what I have found I just have to conclude that many if not all of the corroborations from ‘As the time fulfills’ are not demonstrable after all, because they weren’t published in the Semjase blocks before the events/discoveries etc. These are demonstrable facts, I can’t change them, so I cannot recommend that movie as indisputable evidence anymore.”

Simon

@Tony:

What is wrong with you? You keep writing these kind of rants, you do not give any reasonable reaction to what I say, nor do you seem to understand what I mean. I actually DID a ‘true personal investigation’ into the corroborations brought forth by ATTF and I found many were not published in the Semjase Blocks BEFORE the events happened or discoveries were made. They were first published in PPKB after the events happened or discoveries were made.

You also do not seem to understand that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. What I found doesn’t mean that this is evidence Meier did NOT have any prior knowledge of the events and/or the contact conversations never took place. It only means I found no (ironclad) evidence that Meier DID have prior knowledge of the events/discoveries. You see: there’s a neutral position about a ‘claim’, there’s the rejection of a claim and there’s an acceptance of a claim. Based on the evidence I simply hold the neutral position: no evidence for it, no evidence against it. Also it ONLY applies to the investigated corroborations, it doesn’t mean publications prior to the events/discoveries do not exist at all. It doesn’t say anything about the photo’s, witnesses, the spiritual teachings or any other aspect of the case and what I think of these aspects.

I can’t believe simply stating what I found evokes these kind of reactions! What do you expect of me: do you want me to lie because something turned out not to be in favor of the Meier case or MH’s movie? Do you just want me to ignore what I found? Sorry but this is starting to look like religion and is actually directly against the spiritual teachings!

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Simon,

I understand you. I understand you very well. Anyone who would imply, or state, that Billy back-dated anything IS NOT UNDERSTANDING the Meier case. I’ll keep this short and sweet – I suggest that you continue to read the Meier material until ALL skepticism is removed from your mind. Skepticism will only hold you back. Investigate with clear thinking and an open mind, and then ask intelligent questions. You have a long way to go, read and study, do the work. You will not be disappointed.

Tony Vasquez - Astrologer

Hi Michael,

“…will, in the third millennium, unleash a second war in Iraq which will ultimately lead to an unbelievable disaster…”

What do you think the “disaster” mentioned above will be?

I think it will be a nuclear weapons exchange/attack between Israel and a Muslim nation.

Tony Vasquez - Astrologer

Of course, you are correct. What is happening in Iraq and Syria is horrible, but the “unbelievable” disaster is something much worse, in my opinion. We’ll see.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

The number one enemy for Sunnis and Shias is Israel. I think what is going on in Iraq will lead to a war between the Muslim nations and Israel. Iraq will become a radical Islamic state one way or another.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10910868/Iraq-crisis-Obama-may-launch-air-strikes-without-Congress-amid-calls-for-Maliki-to-go-live.html

“Iraq crisis: Isis jihadists ‘seize Saddam Hussein’s chemical weapons stockpile’ – live

Latest developments and news from the Iraq crisis, as Saudi Arabia warns that Britain and US must not meddle in Iraq.”

Chris L

It depends what time limit and definition one wants to put to the prophecy. Meier is talking about Iraq and the USA in this prophecy. Those are the two countries mentioned. We now know that the US is the cause of this because they began the war in Iraq and trained the Sunni elements that then broke off and formed ISIS. ISIS is performing unbelievable acts of terror and violence in Iraqi that neither the West nor the ME can understand.
This could lead to WW III/IV. Meier says that war if it occurs will last some years.
Personally, I would not be surprised if this leads to an all out ME war that pits Shiites against Sunnis and Saudi Arabia resulting in the end of SA. This is and is becoming an ever-increasing unbelievable disaster.

Carolyn Milke

We are perhaps already in that war, of which he spoke.

Chris martin

Hi Michael
I want to copy your material and post its elsewhere .
What do you think YES / NO why not?

Andy

Chris Martin, front man of Coldplay?!! Let him have whatever he wants!
😉

Corey Müske

MH,

Well yes and no what is happening to the poor people of Iraq is a result of US policies. These murderous Sunni ISIS fighters that have invaded Iraq to eradicate the Shiite dictatorship of Iraq are from Syria. A few years ago, back when Syria had just moderate protesters dying for rights, liberty etc., the Obama administration tried to legally remove Assad from power, as well as hold him accountable for war crimes for butchering his own people, legally, without actually invading the country, using the UN. Like 2 or 3 different times, and it was China and Russia that vetoed the resolutions every time. Flash forward a couple of years, when the moderate protesters are replaced with seasoned, extreme Islamic rebel fighters who were hardened by Assad’s brutality of murdering and butchering his own people. They see Iraq as an easy target.

Granted, what is the fault of US policy, was illegally invading Iraq in the first place, our soldiers murderously murdering all of those people, kidnapping people and putting them in secret prisons, destroying the cradle of civilization Rambo style, just so Bush can retaliate for his father’s legacy, then installing a Shiite dictatorship “puppet government” that will not look out for the rights of Kurds or Sunnis. Hussein was a CIA asset (source: “why we fight” movie) that the powers that be could no longer control, which is probably why the US government rubber stamped the illegal and unmoral war in the first place. Dark forces such as PNAC got their wish, and the terrible invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan was the beginning of the inevitable downfall of our country.

Now back to Iraq, no matter options the world or the US chooses to do about Iraq, there are no good choices.

As for the brewing “unbelievable disaster”, we will just have to helplessly watch it unfold, to know exactly what this consists of, as the immutable law of cause and effect fulfills itself.

Corey Müske

well I should say there are no good choices other then gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit and the multi-national peace-keeping troop, but I won’t hold my breath on this one…

Carolyn Milke

The Christians in the Middle-East are taking a terrible beating. .. . .I wonder what the next US President will do? And who he will be?

Philip Brandel

It can be hard to know what to say after watching our world unfold in the way it has. Amerika(the lie that it truly stands for) is on a visible path to continue to align itself with what the Plejaren/Billy have been saying for a long time… Longer than my ‘life’ within this current one.
Yet within this life I have seen Billy’s information come to pass. Ten years of watching Billy’s information unfold, even within that time so much has been said that has come to pass. Either billy just knows way to much about the TRUTH, or he is being visited by our long lost ‘ancestors’ from the depths of ‘creation’. Or maybe both!!

When the petrodollar falls as the world currency, one can only hope this event does not follow a large world conflagration. Is our world worth pointless paper? Does it have a truthful meaning… ‘money’. Is it worth destroying our already utterly disrespected world over. Will this shift in world ‘power’, over money and resources come as the event so many beyond our world are urgently warning us about. Yet, I suppose(Minnesotan accent:)) we can ask for a couple civil wars if nothing else here in the ‘home of the free’.
It seems one doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see the truth for what it is! We are living it! Right out in the open. What will we do about it? Anything? Questions I ask myself waaay to often… Maybe the time for questions is over! The time for action stands right where it may.

Oh but a few people are kicking a ball around in a stadium watched by untold millions. More important things to knock around in the’ old noggin I guess.
Our future is before us, what will we do about it… I cant and don’t want the world so many ‘ask for’ without actually knowing. What will we have created by lying in the bed we have created for ourselves. Will we find comfort in it when it is finally our turn to have it presented before us.
I never want to know the feelings that reside in my being for what the future I have helped create holds for me. The creation of my own help in making…. USA. The destroyer of all that it supposedly stands for… A bright future if we create something different. Pure delusion for the urgency standing before the need to change sleeping arrangements.

Sheila

In a recent contact report it was discussed how traumatic experiences can be transferred via DNA (may have been RNA or the third strand) to their offspring. So if a person has crossed the killing barrier before having children, would it be easier for these offspring to cross the killing barrier?

J. Smith

“And Did They Listen?”. Or should we say And Will They Listen.

Chris L

It is also undeniable that the cold and brutal “mass murder” prophesied here is indeed occurring at the hands of ISIS. Even Al Qaeda disassociates from ISIS.

Tony

It appears we have indeed become Universal monsters once again. I wonder how many decades or even years it will take us to poison our neighboring celestial bodies again? If the Earth ever needed a multinational peacekeeping force it would be now. Children and innocents alike being slaughtered or worse all in the name of religion and power mongering. It’s as if the entire world has probably gone insane.

Cheryl

Hello Michael,
I am not sure if this is where to post this, but I came across this article pertaining to Artificial Intelligence gaining on humanity with references to the Terminator movies. I believe this is yet another of Billy’s warnings coming true? Worrisome…

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2661523/Elon-Musk-warns-Terminator-films-reality-Tesla-founder-investing-AI-research-track-technology.html

Carolyn Milke

Human < humus < earth

Chris martin

I ment by the blog’s from theyflyblog.com …anywhere there is a reply space.