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Thursday, March 28, 2024

The Billy Meier UFO contacts singularly authentic ongoing for 80 years the key to our future survival

Icing the Skeptics

New skeptical attack again helps prove authenticity of Billy Meier’s prophetically accurate scientific information

For several months there have been allegations form certain people that Billy Meier falsified his information regarding the 5,100 year-old Iceman, as well as other things like the connection between the ozone damage and chemical and atomic radiation causes.

I’ve repeatedly not only rejected those attacks them but also stood firm in my determinations that Meier never backdated any information. Time and again I’ve challenged the accusers to explain the logic, the means, motive and opportunity by which Meier supposedly accomplished this alleged hoax. I’ve pointed out his known and proven good character, absolutely devoid of any proven dishonesty, lying, hoaxing, etc. I’ve also pointed out that someone whose physical evidence of extraterrestrial UFOs has now been independently authenticated several times, wouldn’t need to create a problematic body of allegedly false information.

What’s a Writetyper?

Nonetheless, such rebuttals and challenges were basically ignored, described as “irrelevant”, etc., mainly by young, inexperienced people who, in the digital age, may not even know what a…typewriter is, nor how critical to disproving their foolish attacks it could turn out to be.

Here’s an excerpt from an article that I posted ten years ago, quoting FIGU member Hans-Georg Lanzendorfer:

“Made more difficult yet is that Billy, in the year 1984 did not in any form or way have a computer at his disposal, because the PC plainly and simply entered his office for the first time in the year 2002. Billy had, however, up to the year 2002 diligently written the contact reports with a mechanical type writer and, despite the urgings of the group members, had long avoided using a computer. A falsification of the contact reports and the prophecies would also mean that he would have had to have prepared countless typed pages with gaps in the text to make the retrospective inclusions possible. In the case of a falsification he also would not have knowledge of which coming event to insert in which contact report, so it would not be possible for him to determine the free place for the insertion. Quite aside from this, it is generally known that by inserting (something) the text can be disrupted over several pages away. Falsifications or retrospective inclusions would therefore mean that, in the meanwhile, he must have had to have repeatedly, with his typewriter, copied uncountable, already available pages.”

And while Hans-Georg goes on to say more about it, we have learned that Meier didn’t get his first computer until…March 5, 2001, well after the initial Iceman transcript. Now since Andy, one of the accusers along with Mahesh, is studying  to be a lawyer, it appears that he doesn’t like to consider such pesky inconveniences as logic and MMO, i.e. means, motive and opportunity in determining the truth of such accusations, etc.

Practice makes Perfect

In keeping with the logical explanation about the known facts presented by Hans-Georg, and considering the serious difficulties Meier would have faced trying to backdate this particular contact, does Andy wish to state, unequivocally, that Meier falsified and backdated all of the Iceman information in Contact 238 and most likely also Contact 256, since the information about the bacteria picks up again there in reference to what was said in Contact 238?

Remember, Andy, we’re dealing with pieces of…paper here, not online pages. So the reality is that if Meier falsified the Iceman information, he’d most likely have to go back and redo most of the entire transcript– in each and every copy – which he’d also somehow have to acquire. While it’s easy to create a new page from almost any place in an online document, trying to change information from well within160 pieces of paper is a huge amount of trouble, even in one document.

I for one would find it quite interesting to watch Andy try to convincingly explain, and substantiate, what Meier’s motive would be to even attempt this bit of time-consuming trickery – and then, after all of the effort, to never draw attention to, or claim credit for, the information himself.

Just Methane Around

Regarding the bacteria that thrive in heat, the conditions in Meier’s information greatly exceed the temperatures at which these bacteria are so far known to survive. Even more interestingly, there’s information in this same contact about bacteria that thrive on…methane gas. Contact 256, from 1996, was originally translated and already online in 2006 – meaning that this “new discovery” from 2007 is actually just another corroboration of Meier’s prophetically accurate scientific information  that he published well prior to the “official discovery”.

Ironically, it seems that we may have Mahesh’s and Andy’s failed debunking attempt to thank for helping us find it.

Real Life

Are there little inconsistencies that occasionally occur and appear in the course of real life and very human events? Certainly and sometimes information* may even pop up some time later and satisfactorily, or not, explain the situation. But attributing low, dishonest motives to someone who has a record of good personal character and honesty, is far more indicative of the lack of those qualities on the part of the accusers, who’ve shown such a long, stubborn and determined investment in their cynicism and blind ambition.

It’s good to be able to recognize an honest person…it’s even better to become one.

 

*The following is an excerpt of information just received from Christian Frehner of FIGU. Each person should draw their own conclusions. However, those who wish to maintain that Meier was effectively falsifying information need to substantiate their claims, which includes credibly addressing all of the information above:

“In the original contact 238 of November 9, 1990, on page 2018 (original) the information about the arrows is missing, just as it is the case in SWZ 79/1 on page 60. And also the date is wrong in both “places”: 4105 years instead of 5105 years. In the SKB Nr. 13 there’s something astonishing to notice: In my edition on page 2539, the one that I scanned for you, there’s the correct year (5105 y.) and also the information about the arrows, but in the version that is published on Mahesh’s site, the arrow information is not included. It’s a mystery to me. Perhaps the book was printed two times. I don’t remember, and I don’t have the brown SKB anymore.

or

In the course of the production of the new PPKB Blocks, Ptaah, Florena or Enjana were correcting the old contact notes together with Billy and Bernadette, usually on Saturday afternoon each week, in order to correct as many transmission errors as possible (there were really mistakes in it due to the high-speed transmission). Therefore, in PPKB Block 6, on page 398, the ‘arrow information’ plus other minor corrections were applied to the text during that correction process.

Regarding the publishing date of the Iceman information I would agree with Elisabeth Moosbrugger that the WZ 79/1 and 79/2 were published in autum 1991 (certainly not before the Iceman was found), and possibly even at the time or a little bit after SWZ 80 was published. And what I’ve just noticed: Between WZ 79 and the trio 79/1+2 and 80, the font of the text in the SWZ has changed from typwriter style to computer style. Obviously at that time we had a reorganisation in our book-publishing office…Btw: In PP Block 13 there will be additional information on the Iceman. He and his father do not originate from the Lake Zurich region, but came up there from southern regions.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Philip Brandel

Seems ones again for anyone at least thinking for themselves, let alone what some test or thought by evidence ruffled up by another would show. There is nothing short of compelling evidence to ‘extrapolate’ that we are not alone in the universe, and they are here in real contact with one human, Billy Meier! On top of this there is much work for us to do in changing our world towards the good, better, best. All on our lonesome, together.
Fiddling within whom is the smartest with the least amount of evidence while ‘Rome truly does burn behind us’. This isn’t some game to play! We are on the brink of massive change that is perpetuated by mere, so called ‘humans’. It seems ones again the meaning of it all gets lost in this never ending battle that proves nothing but one thing to me. We need to focus on the spiritual teachings more than anything! Which very much includes personal responsibility in being ‘alive’ on our created world.
One thing I have always liked about Michael is his no bars stance in throwing it out there. Take it or leave it….. some are more than welcome to go in any direction they want. The truth is but the truth, no matter how fancy one wants to get with words.

Philip Brandel

Michael, I for one am enormously grateful that you have not let these people come here and spread their beliefs without you giving it to them. Glad you did not let all these posts flow without your response.
We have to see things as they are and fight for the truth! No one will do it for us. Seems if nothing else, this all must survive somehow for many more centuries to come. I think it has a good fighting chance because of people like your-self’s actions.

Daniel Zumon

Hey Michael,
Great info about the iceman. A couple of valuable words about young, developing people if I may. In my experience with the modern social media situation, the way they sometime do things is to attack something if they want the answer to it (just like the animal pack mentality described in the older contact reports), the great men and women here including you ofcourse Micheal are well aware of these behavioural traits ofcourse, I just wanted to remind you of it really, that sometimes these younger developing individuals without a good leader, good direction and good education/role models, will attack as their way of asking for the answer, as its the only way they know how, lets say. Its linked into competency and other matters, and on the one hand I recommend shielding yourself partially and the other hand they might be looking to you michael as a strong wise male, who could help them out, they just dont have the level of respect perhaps to approach in a pleasant way all of the time. Also billy once explained that young earth people rarely have respect for their elder more wiser fellow human beings, and that should be factored in too.
Thanks Michael and everyone else here, your great people, thank you

jhaag

Happy b-day Billy meire

Bob

Lawyers are ignoramouses and they know it, I went to law school. Litigated more than $50m and the Mickey Thompson murder. Truth was the 1st thing thrown out, it’s how one can slicey Dicey language. Clinton: ‘Well that depends on what the definition of is is.’ You see why we as a planet are doomed to fulfill Henoch Prophecies, we pride ourselves how well we llie. (Speaking for myself)

Sheila

Thank you Bob for sharing that.

Suv

Currently, the whole content of SKB’s are considered as unreliable and unverifiable, since they have gone out of print. In future the entire content of PPKB’s may very well be similarly doubted as backdated and unreliable by the newcomers to this case when the current edition of PPKB goes out of print.

But this will be not surprising given the track record of skeptics forgetting (or ignoring) facts that reputed libraries and real people had these books in their possession and they were cataloged and discussed and there are people to this day who possess an odd copy of older SKB!

In order to prevent in future what is happening now, there is a need to digitize the current edition of PPKB for posterity to refer and compare with latest editions (which might have revisions) and decide for themselves.

The recent attack have proved that while objectivity is a great virtue, objectivity restricted to a narrow segment or narrow time band is devastating for the truth. I do respect the skeptics (at least some skeptic’s) effort in proving their point from their POV in the “now”. I also respect their disagreement with FIGU decision of not doing anything about the fake photos which BTW I also do not understand. But I would request/remind the sceptics:

There is a need to think of “then”, “in the past” and put things into “perspective” and try and make a distinction between a theory and a proof and thereby accept that theory > prediction > proof is not same as proof > prediction > more proof.
There is a need for you to go to Switzerland or Kashmir or some place similar and see the landscape for yourself – how impossible is to use a model there and resolve the depth of field issues.
There is a need to pause and think that – hey, you are vouching for a debunker’s creation who has not subjected his photos to independent scientific study 40 years after the original guy from the age of no computers subjected his photos to the highest level of testing at that time.
There is a need to pause and think that all debunking of videos have been on on paper and other efforts similar to the photos were not subjected to independent testing.
There is a need to think about the absurdity the possibility of all of those subjected to PSE passing it. Meier’s trick, if any, when sold the underworld might have fetched him millions!
There is a need to understand that the sound samples have neither being duplicated using means available in the 70’s, let alone compare with spectrogram.
There is a need to contemplate about the 6 categories of evidence not produced by any one else and the ufo industry that is a product of a) inferiority complex on part of the alleged contactees, b) minds that succumb to fairy tales, and c) the nature of our economics that profit from all scenarios possible; and compare with the utter lack of motive Meier had to produce these evidences, given that he could also have thrived with nothing but fairy tales and the hard truth part redacted.
There is a need to ask – having identified few faked photos, why are you still sticking around with the case, if its not for monetary reason? Could it be that some part of you resonance with the information or some part of you violently disagree with the information, so much so that you need to redeem your previous comfort zone?
Finally, there is need to read the GoT, Might of Thoughts and other books and realize how profound these books are.

If none of them is possible to be done, then the material is not for you – at least take the ET proofs with a pinch of salt and pay heed the warnings that are given and ACT.

Barry Smith

Hey Michael , the skeptics know it’s true and real .. they get paid to debunk anything that doesn’t fit the agenda of the monsters that control Earth … keep fighting for us , Earth is at a tipping point , waiting , Henoch’s words are coming true every day … Sidebar , maybe just maybe you could visit Edward and get him on camera talking about the very near future … you know sort of a current coming events type of thing ?

Matt lee

“It is useless to spend the time looking for prophecies and predictions instead of learning the spiritual teaching and to use it for your life. If you and the others don’t know how to avoid the misery that will come, what profit do you have by knowing a prediction?”

Well Michael if there weren’t any people looking for prophecies I don’t think such a good advice as Mariann’s would’ve been forthcoming along with the spiritual lesson tucked in that context somewhere just as it is the case that if there weren’t any people interested in the Meier case pro or con there would never have been a controversy surrounding it.

Darcy Wade Carlile

I have a funny feeling that “misery” is the wrong term used here. Please find material that has some backing to your statements.

Daniel Zumon

Exactly Barry, It causes many problems for earth with these people. If we are going to develop something like civilization at some time in the future, these people, all of whom have received an education of international standard already (they already know basic things), are going to have to be sternly bumped into not saying anything at all unless its of value and valuable to their fellow human. All this talking for talkings sake causes utter confusion beyond what can be imagined, it places us all in a very dangerous situation. Put it this way, we would be better just handing those ‘after-the-fact’ fussing people a sack of money and telling them to be quiet, if all they are doing it for, creating this widespread confusion, is to feed their family. Those people keep their excitement ratings up as high as they can get them, creates hysteria joy in the face of things that we should be serious about, confusion in the face of real dangers and idiocy in the face of real things that otherwise would be easy to understand. They are doing an injustice to our descendants.

Dubhaltagh

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/02/swedish-company-inserts-rfid-chips-into.html

The head of google behind the push for chipping in Europe.

AlH

Hi everybody

Michael Horn letting appear all the critical comments on this topic is, for me, a proof of his honesty.
Now some facts:
-ad Methanotrophic bacteria: look up wikipedia, references: I see it published in 1996
-ad Iceman: I wrote a letter to Georg Lanzendorfer in december 2012, wherein I mentionned, that the mineral analysis of the teeth and bones concluded to the iceman’s origin in the “Eisacktal” (valley of the Eisack) in Southern Tyrolia, i.e. on the southern alpine slope. Lanzendorfer never felt the urge to respnd to my letter, but apparently now they (FIGU) are changing the Icemans origin from Lake of Zurich(northern alpine slope) to “more Southern”.
– In the same CR “Ptaah” mentions a tribe called Wikinger (Vikings): before the Vikings colonized….. Now the Viking are a noirdic german tribe which, as far as I know, never colonized this region ( first celts, than also romans,than german Allemannen). Lanzendorfer never answered my inquiry.
-Concerning the Unit 731 (WWII japanese biological warfare) and also neurological adverse effects of vasectomy as mentionned by “Ptaah” in a CR, were published scientifically long before the claimed contacts. Astonishingly, the FIGU apparently deleted “Ptaahs” comments on vasectomy on their website, as far as I can see. (Ptaahs comments was some days before the parition in the New York Times, but the original publication in a neurological paper was way prior to that).

And please bear in mind, that as far as thinking is concerned, the thinking starts years before an eventual publication.

Matt lee

You said “And please bear in mind, that as far as thinking is concerned, the thinking starts years before an eventual publication”.

Well I did bear that in mind Andy and your logic has become all that more ridiculous.
Now are you asking why Billy didn’t he read people’s minds!????
Are you now going to accuse Billy by saying why didn’t he know about it before publication of those documents too???????
Wow
One more time
Wow
I didn’t think you were into David Copperfield or Chris Angel

AlH

Hi Matt
Just for the sake of correctness and especiallv to avoid that another (Andy) is accused for a post thats not from him.

I didnt mean mindreading but the eventual possibilities originating in the nature of thought and communication in space and time.
factors which would also be implied in the coming about of some contact reports for example, wouldnt they.?

Terry

Michael are there any new updates on the predictions and prophets, have they changed since then now that it is 2015?

Daniel Zumon

Take a look at creation evolution Terry, I mean first take a look at the 6 other forms of evolution, and then take a look at creation evolution. I am not going to write another essay, so look at that form of evolution and then you will get some idea of how things stabilise over time and you will then be able to answer your own question in the process of doing that.

Daniel Zumon

Im wondering what anyones opinion is about this thing I have just discovered, to nip poverty in the bud. For a small group to independently go around the world destroying really large areas of resources in advance, as a way of, as I said, nipping future poverty in the bud, in advance. Nothing to price speculate over, the governments will be forced to then manage the smaller quantities of everything and people will then be forced to focus their attentions on localised issues, like the quality of the existing housing stock, the quality of their families and local injustices etc. What do you think? should we arrange a little elite group of future poverty busters and go around the world destroying in a managed way really large areas of natural resources, in anticipation for the earth humans locked in syndrome? Thanks for your opinions.

Matt lee

Well you’ll have poverty nipping you in the butt.
Scarcity of resources will heighten competition and when those resources are needed for daily survival you’ll have violence as the only method that people will resort to in the name of self preservation.
As FIGU, Billy and the Plejaren advocate ad nauseously if we reduce our overpopulation to a manageable size of even to 1 billion rather than 500 odd million they said we can achieve a sustainable living without severe scarcity, conflict, criminality, wars, environmental destruction and so on.
Of course the less people on the planet means in all probability less pollution due to less economic activity, consumption and waste leading to a lesser worldwide problems.
Sorry to crash your joke

Darcy Wade Carlile

Exactly. Overpopulation is unright.

Daniel Zumon

Its not crashed the joke, its a rational answer. But what do you think about the specific I gave, about governments being forced to regulate and to bring our living into our means as a cause effect. The real joke part was that we could (if we were conscious enough) do that now, not in 300 years when we genuinely do have a problem. Thanks Matt,

David Scott

I’ve been on a quest lately regarding alternative energy . And the field is poised to explode away from the extreme oppression . I came across some amazing writings by Nikola Tesla and his magnetism and resonance relationships . He got into talking of singularity and how we are awash in a sea of energy and much of his time was spent discerning how to harvest it . And he very well succeeded . In his papers he spoke of magnetic and resonant energy reach a point of neutral positive and of singularity . It relates to many applications regarding signal transmission engines and get this the human body . He theorized that the body has an electromagnetic component that could be controlled by the human , much like BEAM speaking of neutral positive thinking . Billy highly explains the process to attain this in a human and singularity . Tesla spoke of the way to harness energy is to find harmony in nature .The more you pull out the resistance to creation you become more powerful essentially and your positive thoughts effect the creation as we are a part of it and makes the creation or neutral positive stronger . He gets into the pyramids and the applications even in comparision to a supreme natural occurring shape a hectagon and he developed an 8 sided pyramid technology so to speak . So FIGU speaking of the neutral positive thinking and the energy of the human transmission and amplified reception of such via natural means in relation to the pineal gland and the inverted power that the FIGU Pyramid receives is simply amazing me right now .I am on the verge of envisioning the mechanics in my mind and clearly the Plejaran were influencing Tesla up to his death . Not long after his passing when Billy was old enough he was clearly the next subject . Its right their . Teslas visions and Billy taking it further just with psyche alone is the richest brain power I have ever found . I am so excited putting this all together . As I ramp up the understanding I will share it more its amazing . For me its like non stop confirmation understanding the brilliance of BEAM and how fortunate I was able to have found him helping me unlock the true human existence . The hardest part is recognizing all the evil players along the way . They shock me the most .

Silvana

When you get to this point in your evolution then you no longer need proof of the authenticity of Billy Meier, you no longer care of dates of disclosures and certainly don’t go around wasting your time and other people’s as well in things that are marelly materialistic nonsense.

Ev

fascinating, David! Will be watching for updates on this.

Daniel Zumon

David Scott, these are great observations and lessons. I agree with Silvana and Ev. I have something else similar to talk with you about. I did some thorough investigations of my own David.

I almost managed to work out that all the sciences have a positive and a negative, but I will write it below for you.

Ultra fine force – evolution(s) all have a pos+ and neg- equivalent and psychology and spirit has positive and negative also. Mission itself is designed to avoid neg- charged evolution, theoretically.
Fine force – – About human beings – read below.
dark matterial – graviphotons and tachyons have negative charge too
gravity – There is polarities
strong force – A positive and negative, and a symmetrical spectrum too
weak force – A positive and negative, and a symmetrical spectrum too
electromagnetic spectrum – Everything above xray in frequency is ionised and negative lets say.

About humans: what I really wanted to say was that basically humans ourselves and themselves basically do something that mirrors what is seen in nature, we are to some greater or lesser extent a force and a science in and of ourselves, and we are part of the universe after all. The male and female and the sexual act specifically we could call this a reaction process mechanism.

So I want to talk about sex and intercourse with you for a moment, on this scientific level, and to talk about what is going on spiritually in this act. We know ofcourse that the skin and nerves produce various frictions which release pleasure chemicals in the brain, but what is occuring here on a spiritual level, and how does this interaction, mechanism of bonding relate to the specifics of spiritualism. Thanks for any answers questions opinions.

Paul Wr

Hi Michael,
Did you just state that Florena, Ptaah, Enjana do corrections now with Bernadette included?
Face to face contacts?
Thanks,
Paul

Darcy Wade Carlile

Sounds like the thoughts can be passed on to any evolution whereas the evolution are individuals of different masses of condensed energy and the thoughts are immune to any physical being changes.

Daniel Zumon

Thank you Darcy for being a great reasonable man, I appreciate it.

Matt lee

Gee I mean Mehesh is still at it trying to pick a hole in the case one after another rather than helping it from his unenviable position of having obtained great collection of difficult to obtain Meier materials.
To put it mildly its entrapment

http://www.billymeieruforesearch.com/photos-and-videos/outer-space-pictures-universal-barrier/

Matt lee

Well Michael you are preaching to the choir here but I sometimes wonder even if such a train of thought is bad why the delayed reaction of the laws of cause and effect helped also by human stupidity never seems to punish those who most need the lesson.
Sure there is no guiding hand of God striking down people with thunderbolt as punishment for their wrongs but this current life anyway and most who live in it seems to be immune even from self punishment because they don’t recognise that they have done anything wrong.
So all this talk about perpetrators bringing self harm from the wrongs they have committed often feels like wishful thinking due to no punishment being visible.
Obviously it pertains more to the unseen spirit where this punishment is concerned but frankly I am sick of that line from having experienced on too many occasions where the wrongdoers are rewarded in perpetuity.
Its shortsighted view I know but it does feel that way

Daniel Zumon

You are right in what you say Michael, and I honourably stand with you united in the study of truthful things of many kind.

The higher state of consciousness that semjase explained once that some small number of earth humans will reach on some level or another, is linked heavily into not acknowledgements but acceptances. We are welcome to accept that day by day the world will shift unlike any other world we may have experienced for a long time, and this is linked into trends, popular culture and the rapid rate of evolution combined with the shear volume of human, and their scattish thoughts. That given this and this acceptance that we will inevitably be forced to (us and our kind) move in all manner of strange and complicated currents and all over the world. Which will confuse inevitably, we are bound to confusion and that is another acceptance, and this is why, the crux of why, Billy has lead his life in the way he has, as a method of indirectly helping us and our kind of earth human, as an example of a method of finding and facilitating stability on this otherwise and forever changing and confusing world, that ceaselessly produces humans which as I said before, are bound and in bondage to confusion, for atleast the first stretch of their lives, unless they have very strong mentors and teachers (which is very rare). – Anyway, this is what I take it to mean, and I accept the parameters of the path before me. Thank you for what you do to help people.