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Thursday, March 28, 2024

The Billy Meier UFO contacts singularly authentic ongoing for 80 years the key to our future survival

MUFON Got It – I Really Think They Got It!

Sedona MUFON opens its doors – and minds – to the Billy Meier case!

For a very long time MUFON, the international UFO research organization, has variously attacked, ignored, or tried to marginalize the Billy Meier UFO case, which is ironic since it’s the only scientifically proven, still ongoing contact case.

It was only recently that the new director of MUFON, Jan Harzan, agreed to have the case listed on the MUFON site as an actual, historical case. Unfortunately – and I think because of intense pressure from very vested interests within the MUFON hierarchy he and MUFON didn’t take the one necessary step of actually examining the evidence in the case, since it would be a deal ender for MUFON. Where would they go from there once they announced that the Meier case was…authentic?

The problem is of course even larger than that. Finding what they – and everyone who claims to be interested in UFOs, extraterrestrials, etc. – have been looking for means that the greatest true story in all of human history is indeed occurring here on Earth; there are intelligent extraterrestrial human beings and they’ve been in contact with one Earthman for over 73 years. And with that realization and confirmation…the entire UFO industry grinds to a very well deserved halt. The disinformation no longer grabs anyone’s attention. The Grays, Reptilians and Dracos, and all other imaginary “aliens” etc., go back to their properly dismissed status as the products of over active imaginations and deliberate deception created by suicidal, control and profit-oriented fellow humans.

All that being said, I can now joyfully tell you that Sedona Mufon was kind enough to host a nearly two-hour presentation of mine on the Meier case on February 20. In introducing my presentation, Becky Solon, a MUFON State Section Director for Arizona, held up her own copy of one of the original photo books from Genesis III.

Having a large screen on which to show Meier’s stunningly clear, daytime UFO photos, some that he took within 20’ feet of the craft and the recent independent analyses, etc., certainly opened many people’s eyes A good number of the MUFON members got not only the singular authenticity of the Meier case, they now grasped that its very central reason was indeed the spiritual teaching, based as it is in our taking complete self-responsibility for our lives and our world, for assuring our own future survival…and not waiting, hoping or fearing that extraterrestrials are coming to save or annihilate us.

Of course I would be quite glad to present this eye-opening documentation to other MUFON groups. And help them leave behind the dead-end pursuit of…lights-in-the-sky.

Phil Pholds, Phails to Show

Several months ago I was interviewed by William Piper, who then told me that Phil Langdon wanted to debate me on a show that William would host. Of course I agreed and about a month ago there was more discussion about setting the exact date. I agreed to February 21, one of the suggested options. Well, Phil pholded and phailed to agree to the debate.

So despite all sorts of rhetoric that he’s spewed across the internet, youtube, etc., apparently being confronted with the inescapable evidence of his inability to duplicate the actual details of the WCUFO (as well as the Pendulum UFO film) caused Phil to, well, put a…lid on it and wisely retreat.

 

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WCUFO on the ground 1
Detail of WCUFO from Rhal Zahi's video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pjcbF1oK8Q.
Detail of WCUFO from Rhal Zahi’s video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pjcbF1oK8Q.
Enlarged WCUFO at tree
Enlarged WCUFO at tree
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WCUFO extended cupola
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WCUFO Detail 1
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WCUFO with Halo
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Wayne Anthony Sunter-Smith

True “or” False !!! ….Ask them “all that aside” .””What is the overall message to humanity is the Meier case trying to Project/ point out”” ? .That will stuff them !!

Daniel Zumon

Language would be so incredibly simple wouldnt it, if we had a great compendium of all knowledge at one central location, better still, could just perceive all that knowledge with the brain better still, no language needed at all. That is why evolution is a thing, a real phenomena, I mean to say/point out, its at that location- at the location of those acknowledgements.

Terry

I just came up with an idea MH. Why not give Mahash the benefit of a doupt,in other words tell Mahash that he has to prove we`re wrong when we KNOW we`re right,in other words MH just say to Mahash right in the face! There:) “Another Karl Korf the FRAUD”! Tell Mahash to join the Karl Korf Club and then see where theses two frauds will BOLDLY go to the ends of the universes and just see what happens next. “Those noodles are as BAD as it gets”!

Terry

Thanks MH.:))

Matt lee

Maggi noodles anyone? (you get it?) funny enough its one of the most popular noodles in India.

forto

We must be careful how we proceed here. Many things are said and thrown about. Search yourselves and if that does not yield the answers, then we must simply be patient. This place is a den of lies and deceit. I have my own theories for why this is, but I cannot produce proof, although I’m probably fairly close. With the release of contact report 345, we must now start to rethink certain things. How did we actually get to this point? How do we logically and rationally correct it? How do we properly understand the power of the Spirit in doing so? These are critical questions which some, I feel, know more than what they are saying. There is more to our being here than what meets the eye. Certain forces are clamping down to try to ensure we do not understand and those forces are assuredly Human. We must collectively redetermine our own destiny some how. But the psychotics will have to go before peace, knowledge, and wisdom can come about. This is the central issue at hand here. Why did these othere peoples achieve so much with so little trouble and maintain it?

Daniel Zumon

the statistics:
82% religious
18% free thinking
Illustrates that with your valid point “We must collectively redetermine our own destiny some how”, is not really viable, though I agree that would be nice, incredibly pleasant and desirable actually.

forto

Frankly, I could give a rat’d ass what the statistics say. It really is quite meaningless to me now. Things will either improve or they will not. To argue how it will occur is meaningless, it simply doesn’t matter anymore, there’s just too many of us now. It’s turned into a fool’s errand at this point. Until something happens that wakes all of Humanity up, things will simply tick along. There’s always going to be Humans that wish to remove the very air that you breathe. Something happened here that we are not being told about and I frankly just don’t give a sh_t anymore. It is what it is. We have to look out for ourselves now, that’s all that can be done. Time will most assuredly take care of the rest, as it has for eons and will continue to do so.

Daniel Zumon

The sentiment I can agree with. Its a realist position to take. Eventually the model that were working with runs its course, peoples jobs become automated, technologies and inventions are developed that nullify traditional revenue streams, whereby we have to re-invent ourselves many different times in our life to establish that stability. “Until something happens that wakes all of Humanity up” – that wont ever happen, because our lives are too short and we neglect to hand real knowledge over to our children. However, a new energy source will inevitably change everything. But people will still be seeking knowledge and community [which is where church demand originates]. And I can be relatively confidently to say that nations will be, continue to be, for many thousands of years, assuming civilization does not reset itself yet again, like it did with Atlantis [the myth civilization].

Daniel Zumon

Hi, Ok, the context is evolution, take a look at this sentences and have a think:

The planet is divided by nations because of the intervention of humans from another world.

The planet is divided by beliefs because of the intervention of humans from another world.

The planet is divided by dramatic ideological differences because of the intervention of humans from another world.

The truth is too boring to be sold. We already have all the answers.

The vatican is a monopoly on all the possible variables that a planet with this particular evolutionary arrangment will inevitably produce.

The government is a monopoly on all the possible variables that a planet with this particular evolutionary arrangment will inevitably produce.

The money-economy is a monopoly on all the possible variables that a planet with this particular evolutionary arrangment will inevitably produce.

Being instructed in the creative natural laws is tantamount to terrorism, because we already live firmly within the creative natural laws, human life would not exist on earth if we didnt.

Daniel Zumon

That last paragraph is a reversed polarity paragraph to illustrate what is being examined by us, and why anything need happen in the first instance.

Sheila

Two facts about Otzi that Mahesh refused to address (or maybe he’s just trying to hide the facts):
#1 What happened to the arrow?
After discovery of Otzi’s body who was presumed to be a recent hiker, “They used pneumatic hammer to free the body from the ice, damaging its left hip. Luckily they soon ran out of electricity. Over the next couple of days, visitors to the site tugged and poked at the corpse, damaging it still further.”
This would suggest the missing arrow was probably taken by a visitor.
#2 How did Otzi die?
In 2001 a “CT scan of his left shoulder revealed a small flint arrowhead, which had been obscured in earlier X-rays by his shoulder blade. At first, it was difficult to find an unhealed entry wound, but closer examination revealed a small hole in Otzi’s skin. Would an arrow in his shoulder be sufficient to cause his death? Multisplice computed tomography (MSCT) examination in 2005 revealed that the arrowhead lacerated Otzi’s left subclavian artery, resulting in massive bleeding and eventually shock-related cardiac arrest within a few hours. Otzi bled to death.”
Quotes are from the book Written In Bones by Paul Bahn updated in 2013.

Sheila

Also from the same book “Konrad Spindler hypothesized that Otzi had been fleeing from an altercation that had resulted in breakage to his arrows and his ribs. Alone and hungry, the wounded Iceman had sat down in the gully to die. For many following the Iceman story in the 1990s, this scenario seemed a bit too melodramatic, and they preferred to attribute the broken ribs and equipment to a bad fall.”

Matt lee

Look Michael after weighing everything that has transpired up till now I don’t think Mahesh’s intentions weren’t trying to get his facts right in attempting to disprove what Billy has said in the first place but to throw doubt on the case whilst also as you said repeatedly possibly profiting on the side.
How poignant that in one of Mahesh’s question to Billy it dealt with materialism with a pointed response by Billy to him being ‘aren’t you also materialistic’.
How ironic.
Its as if Billy foresaw what was about to transpire in regards to Mahesh.
There you go another proof of the incredible consciousness related powers of Billy.
Now that’s what I call ironclad.

Sheila

Yes it doesn’t get more ironclad than that. Weirdly I noticed your question to Billy this round and I have often wondered the same myself.

Matt lee

Sheila are you referring to my child raising question or about Mohammad?

Sheila

About Mohammad. Concerning your new baby son, Billy’s advice was right on in terms of what to tell him when he gets older and starts asking questions. Another thing when he’s older and you want to punish him by taking away his toys, don’t do that because a recent study claims that makes kids more materialistic. That’s probably what happened to Mahesh sil.

Sheila

Damn kids nowadays. Mahesh is obviously delusional. I guess that’s what happens with overpopulation. There are so many of us humans that the young ones have to fight to pretend they are something special, that they are unique and because of their special ability, only they have to fortitude to come to the conclusion that Billy is a hoaxer and backdater. I think Mahesh is a very sloppy investigator and is trying to make a name for himself. It will be interesting to see what happens to him…cause and effect comes to mind.

Matt lee

Yeah good advice Sheila although looking at kids these days I don’t want to overindulge my boy and end up with a selfish self absorbed beast who thinks that the whole world revolves around them.
It depends on how my wife and I raise him I guess.
Cheers

David Scott

Wow , this ufo business seems to be quite a huge industry . I think I am gonna seek some job security and start to discredit the truth . Sure is some big coin in it for me once I get a following . Might as well start with the biggest source of industry threatening truth too . Probably has the biggest effect , both ways . Cool , any press is good press to keep the machine working . Hmmm , so lets make up a name for myself , before I start and go LLC too . Then , I can safely make a name for myself . Hmmm , so who shall I discredit first ? Onwards , to the revenue side of this story ….. I would highly suggest just ignoring the stupid anymore . Its really not worth the bandwith . This Mahesh , whom I will never read a word of , is a perfect example . Just ignore it . It will go away . Without fight , they are without their self perceived might and to shrivel up is next.

Daniel Zumon

Do you remember that album made in the year 1999 and then released at the start of the year 2000 called trilenium by Sash!. Well someone needs to do with the spiritual teaching what Ralf Kappmeier, Sascha Lappessen, Thomas Alisson did with music, to geek out, go full power on the geek, go overboard with being a geek, go so far with being a geek that you even forget how profound your actually being -that far into geeking. That I fear, is a requirement as well as a profound requisite too if things are going to shift over. To that end some say we had a strange ideological shift to the left a few years ago, only then to return to the right again, I guess someone at least has been experimenting with various different substances.

Daniel Zumon

I dont write this stuff because I like the sound of the keys clicking. Seriously, If anyone is brave enough, develop an incredibly positive wrapper for the spiritual teaching and hand that final product over to Christians. Who will take it no questions asked, they’ll love it. many years later, it will lead them sufficiently down the path, lambs to the slaughter that they are, to revolutionising the entire planet, of course at grave cost, but what do you care what others do with their lives and their spare time, what possible control do you feel you have, and given the short length of our lives anyway, and the fact that all the sciences have been discovered sort of puts us in a disrespectful position anyway, given that the plejaren have explained those things.

Sheila

That’s funny that you think there is only one thing in the Meier material that you didn’t know about. Give me a break.

Daniel Zumon

If that was directed at me, its wrong, I dont want to know everything in the meier material, much of it is of absolutely no interest to me, why would it be.

Sheila

That you Daniel for claiming you are so much smarter than our prophet. So why are you even posting here?

Sheila

Correction: Thank you Daniel.
At least I now know why I skimmed over most of your posts because all you did was blather and blather and pretend you know better than everyone else, which you obviously don’t.

Terry

Couldn`t agree with you more Dave. I`m gonna do the same, just ignore those phonies like Mahash and hope those morons will disappapear from our blog for good!

Moshe

How can you comment about the work of a person when you haven’t read it? I hate when people do that to Billy!

Sheila

I have read it and I know exactly what Mahesh is trying to do…undermine the mission. I am certainly not okay with that. Are you?

Terry

“Not me Sheila”.

Daniel Zumon

I agree with you Moshe. Some like to test the lukewarmness of the water before offering themselves fully to its depths. We sometimes like community when we are unsure about our independence.

Andy

“This Mahesh , whom I will never read a word of , is a perfect example .”

Considering you have never read a word of him…what exactly is Mahesh a perfect example of again?

Sheila

Terry has been reading Michael’s posts and knows exactly what Mahesh is trying to do. There has also been a few people here telling us that Mahesh wants to deconstruct Michael Horn. I’m not okay with that either. Are you okay with that Andy the fence sitter? Considering the threat of ISIS do you really think Mahesh is spending his time wisely?

Philip Brandel

Yes Sheila ones again put out there nicely(in my view:)).
For those of us with half a rational thinking brain…. within the material consciousness.?(work in progress putting words with REAL physical meaning).
It seems are priorities are a little blurred as far as what seems to be important and I could not be with you more on the aspect of what is happening in the real world! The entire F’ing planet will be at war and one of the best examples to why, how, when, where our change for the good, better, best in all of us resides, is swept under the rug because of too many books on the guys wall. Let alone those sweeping in the wrong house with shoddy google searches, wrong languages, 5000$ donations, beliefs, and egos ones again distracting even more from the truth. The truth that we are what this is all about. Us, as the inhabitants of the world WE have created no matter what man has pictures, videos, sound recording, hand/foot prints, snow/crop/light circles, let alone the prophetic information, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc………….

Sheila

Hi Phil, if you are ever up our way, please come and join us 🙂

Greg

Just got the Photo Inventarium book on Ebay for $119 with free shipping. So if you see it for sale for 200, 300, or 400 dollars, don’t buy it at that price. It’s nice, not really necessary, but some great, clear photos. Testimonies of witnesses, pictures of the other types of evidence, which most people completely ignore. I like the photos that Billy takes from inside the ships. I still hate the WC ufo. Probably because it doesn’t look high tech or aerodynamic. Remember the 80’s Disney movie “Flight of the Navigator”? I think the UFO photos are a blessing and a curse. The most important photos, most of those from Billy’s trip on the great spacer were destroyed went missing. Here is one of my biggest gripes:

Why can the Plejarans travel the great expanses of the universe, but come here and get stuck in so many trees?

Sheila

Who claims they are stuck in trees? My understanding is that they are moving around the trees. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

The Ps use the trees as a sort of kick stand for their beamships. In the Meier documentary “Contact” around 40:55, “Meier says they use the trees as sort of a magnetic ground.”

Greg

OK, that makes sense. Thanks.

Daniel Zumon

Just to make my position clear, I respect Mahesh and dont have a problem. Your welcome to, but leave me out of it. Me and Mahesh are equals.

Sheila

Are you equal with every person who has ever tried to stop the mission from going forward? Just asking.

Daniel Zumon

Your wrong about that [my opinion] or should I say I dont believe you, Mahesh is doing no such thing [my opinion] with his website, he is putting in some good work on presenting the investigative information, I am not confident that you have done as you said you have and read the information/contact reports.

For starters you would know about the evolutionary arrangement, the strangeness in the path through life given the facts (Contact Report 345 does well in reverse engineering those facts), you’d know not to interfere if people were always going to do as they were always going to do, and Mahesh knows the information well, and i’ve verified on plenty of times that he is not delusional [which is enough for me] – that is why me and Mahesh are equals, because he is not religiously delusional, and I respect that, respect his decision making abilities.

I do think he’s working with the giblets and cartilage while were working with the breast fillet, but that is besides the point, I certainly dont write people off for that.

Daniel Zumon

Sheila I have some special info for you a single sentence:
The Vatican would not exist if there was not a demand for it.

Sheila

I am not religious, neither were my parents and I really don’t a crap about the vatican. And you are wrong about Mahesh. That is funny that you think the only test there is, is the non delusional one. Priceless. Does Kal Korff pass too? I can tell you are very young and inexperienced.

Daniel Zumon

I suppose we better prepare ourselves to engage then MH, there appears to be little recourse.

Sheila: I was pointing out that Mahesh and his activities would not exist, had there not been a demand for it. I dont even know who Kal Korff is, if that makes you feel better.

Whipped. No im saying that you’re whipping yourselves, nothing to do with me.

Daniel Zumon

Your wrong about Mahesh doing it for something like feeling special, noteworthy or some other similar reason. Because none of us are that, are we, of the 196 nations of the world, none of them recognise any of this information as holding any value. Academics think we’re nuts, Scientists have a laughing fit, it is when it comes down to it, well beyond any of the normal, accepted, in any form. We’re the opposite of special, were headed for something quite unpleasant if we work it out, given what we think we know, with nothing in our social system to support the position.

Sheila

Daniel, if it’s got nothing to do with you, why do you keep wanting to get into the conversation? You’ve obviously read nothing that Michael has posted up until now. I thought you said there was nothing in Billy Meier’s material that you didn’t know. But now you are saying you don’t even know who Kal Korff is? Start reading.

Andy

I’m glad you said that Daniel. Mahesh has been called the worst of names here, including “betrayer of the truth,” etc. … and it is absurd.

Hopefully Mahesh won’t mind me saying this, but I was talking to him a few weeks ago and he explained how is original idea for the website was to have a resource that would really blow the skeptics out of the water, he was really gonna pin down some of these ‘corroborations’ that MH talks about…

But when he looked at the original texts and dived in to his research…things weren’t quite as they were claimed to be. But he faithfully reported the facts as he uncovered them.

Faithfully reporting the facts as one uncovers them… this sounds like the opposite of “betrayer of the truth” to me…

MH says: “Mahesh is misrepresenting information, publishing half-truths and outright inaccuracies…”.

Where has Mahesh misrepresented information, published half-truths, etc? What are you talking about? Since you are so concerned when you think Meier is being slandered, perhaps you’d like to back up this claim? Something Mahesh wrote about the Ice Man? Please quote me where Mahesh is misrepresenting anything.

You could say MH is misrepresenting information though, like he does here for starters: http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash91/5100_year_old_man.htm

“…the irrefutable fact that he published specific information about exactly how the man died ten years before scientists discovered it using modern CT scan equipment.”

“Irrefutable fact” huh? Because you now know that this is a completely REFUTED fact, perhaps MH you want to take down that page so as not to misrepesent information and publish FULL-untruths?

MH says Mahesh disregards logic. Mahesh doesn’t disregard logic, in fact, he almost exclusively regards it (I for one, am impressed he has stayed so calm and rational in the face of MH’s tiresome, constant unjustified insults). Virtually every sentence on Mahesh’s site is either describing facts as he found them, or logically drawing conclusions from these facts.

Meanwhile, I have seen virtually no logic from MH, only unjustifiably attacking people and speaking of others’ alleged nefarious motives which he knows absolutely nothing about. When he does try to use some logic, all he talk about is “means, motive, opportunity, character…”. On and on and on with “MMO”.

But MMO is largely irrelevant. Mahesh is not a prosecuter in a court room trying to prove a crime. For his enthusiasm for the mission, he was simply trying to really demonstrate the validity of some of these so-called corroborations, really prove in a comprehensive and systematic way that Meier really did publish unique, specific scientific information before anyone else on earth knew it.

But, to my knowledge he hasn’t found any instances of that. (He has found a couple fishy things though).

But in certain places he does go into means and opportunity — like when he filed a FOAI to track down info about the date of the NASA painting.

Sheila

I’ve mentioned a few of Mahesh’s inconsistencies which you fail to address. Like the “unknown” NASA archivist, whose evidence would not hold up in a court of law. Funny that you hold everything Billy says to court standards but are unable to do this with NASA employees. How about that little tidbit where the painter cannot remember WHEN he painted the picture? The fact that the Iceman’s real reason for his demise (the arrow which cut an artery) was only given out as scientic fact in the year 2005. Billy and the Ps had mentioned why he died in the year 2003.

Matt lee

Good point Sheila
Gosh these apologist bat like ignoramuses that don’t stand for anything of substance.

Matt lee

Michael you link is returning this

Error 520 Ray ID: 1c1f7f3ca4c4018d
Web server is returning an unknown error

Matt lee

Michael is it because of you they are doing this I mean of all places on earth.

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/02/28/details-emerging-arizona-false-flag-attack-commerce-communications/

Darcy Wade Carlile

Martial law over rules any other forms of law including lawyers and judges will be powerless so why don’t those legal beagles snooping in the Meier material stop and think what they are doing?

David Scott

Daniel , If your going to nit pick an entire body of work consisting of such massive information I cannot give way to sucn small contentions . I will give Mahesh all of his contentions as , yes he is right . Whats left ? A body of work still exponentionally larger than any claim Mahesh can make . I said I did not read his website . I glossed over comments and such within the threads here and that’s just comments from the blog and they are a long standing reputation of solid thinking . LIke I said , give Mahesh all his claims as true , the remaining body of work is still enough for humanity to find the truth . Nit pick away , We do not have time to waste here . Cloud the message , are you really helping anything ? Mahesh has the look at me , syndrome . Drone . We can lawyer , scientist speak all day long and bicker . Is that really productive ? Only for an ulterior motive . Look at me . Sorry , I am not looking . And Daniel , I mean no disrespect , however , your trying to covey information or concepts . But ask yourself , Am I helping the end result ? Because you drone on , and I know you are trying . but just by trying to sound intelligent is grating on us . No one here claims to be that . I would like to think you are not doing that as well . But your time spent , consolidating your message could be something to think about . Because you loose me in the wandering language . I do not mean to insult because I understand it may not be your native language and I would think its awesome to have your insights better understood . Just an open book here , I’m goofy . stupid at times and occasionally understood myself . I here crickets a lot when I post , but Its still documented and I can suggest some revisit what I write . But like the rainforest comments about giving the folks that clearcut the rainforest protective gear . Was that a joke or were you serious ?

David Scott

Daniel , scrolling away from my last post , you comment to Sheila , regarding the demand for a Pope . Are you really serioius here too ? A religion of documented mind control and manipulation is something that people honestly demand for . Son , you have to go back to the history books . You do not get it . Religion is about manipulation . Emmanuals teachings , Mohameds teachings have been distorted and collectively lied to billions of people infecting the most horrendous outcome and you joke about it , saying their is a demand . You are irresponsible with your lack of understanding and attempts to try to philosophize . Your no BEAM son . I called you out . I had the balls to do it . It had to be done . Stop , will ya . Just do some reading , walk in the woods , the beach . Stop trying to make a Mehesh out of yourself , your learning nothing . Your an aggregate . Stop the disruption of this blog , it just is not working out for you , and yes we all know it . Just calm yourself , read and read some more . Its about a global standpoint and harmony . Not dissonance and discourd . Please , use your obvious intelligence to look inwards and apply yourself forward . Waste no time and dribble no more , find the focus . Do it . We know you can . Philosopjy takes wisdom and time under its wing . Patience and compassion . Being right is not a goal .

Daniel Zumon

You’re just throwing my own words back at me David. So there leave nothing else for it, you leave me little choice David. – Thank you David, you are so good at what you do, you are a good man, an honourable man, a knowing wise teacher, I consider you to be both smart, and intelligent for the information that you can produce of your own volition, thank you for what you have offered here to me, thank you.

Sheila

Daniel Zumon, the Darryl Zoolander of the internet world.

Ev

had to look up Darryl Zoolander, yep it fits, Sheila.

Ev

patronising, passive aggressive self-aggrandising, no substitution for wit

Stephen Lane

“A religion of documented mind control and manipulation is something that people honestly demand for?”

Hmm. Does ‘demand’ = when a need/desire is created? Is this just a word thing?

I think Earth people do demand religion. That is why it has been so successful. Our genetic manipulations instilled great fear and insecurity in us which ultimately leads to an over-desire (demand) to feel safe and protected. We are now programmed with that demand and religions partly satisfy it. Materialism is also performing that role. Believers pretty much need to be manipulated to function properly, although they perceive quite the opposite.

The Pope is worshiped as the Earthly representative of the Almighty God. Believers ‘know’ within themselves that he (via his devine connections) is saving them. Their perception of the world proves this to them and creates even more demand for him. The belief overrides the logic (like Windows NT :)).

Those who maintain the religions also suffer from the same genetic manipulations and so they demand their followers just as much. They too desire to be manipulated. Perceived connection to the devine resulting in adoration is their saviour. So a cycle of dependancy.

It is this relinquishment to the saviourheit that was/is supposed to create within ourselves the paradoxical state of self-destruction via a kind of over-self-preservation. Those Sirians knew their causal bio-weaponary.

Well, the first line is all I was getting at really. Sorry for waffling.

David Scott

Daniel , This is what Michael is speaking of regarding personal E mails in preference into the non productive blog posts . I think you are very intelligent and you are obviously here so your plight stands strong . Just pump the brakes boy . A western movie reference that is just some comic relief . The viewpoints are very valuable . Don’t let a goof ball like me tell you otherwise l Aggregate like I brought up is the spirit of the communication . Rustle some feathers , its all good . We all do take into consideration Mahesh and as I said I viewed his viewpoint from various angles , I am no BEAM , yet I find him in my every day life . The creation and BEAM are constant . The one thing we all share is that we definitely would like to meet BEAM and make a difference in our world . It gets more critical every day to make this connection . My typed poor communicated effort was just that , a hope to connect , stir the pot and it would be cool if we could all meet in the kitchen . And I mean that . Its a hub gathering and we could easily find ourselves their one way or another . Sucks to have to type this stuff so long , cause I know Michael needs a day off or ten 😉

daniel