Since my previous blog also became a lightening rod for opposing views on astrology, I offer this one for the discussion of the topic. I have titled it Terrestrial Astrology: Science or Superstition? since the issue includes the idea that the astrology that the Plejaren are said to practice is far different, more advanced and accurate than our terrestrial version.
Hopefully some light can be shed that will be of value to all concerned.
UPDATE on earthquakes:
http://alabe.com/freechart/
plug in your birth data for a little entertainment
23 03 1951
I can say this much, they have a nice way of wording things in English if you wanted to find someway to describe yourself if you’re lacking a starting reference point.
For example:
“Very sociable, you enjoy being with others and definitely prefer not be alone. Warm and affectionate, you go out of your way to make others like you. You despise ugliness, for you being surrounded by beauty and harmony is a necessity of life. You prefer fine clothing, an attractive home and pleasant surroundings wherever you are. Your refined tastes apply to music and to art as well. At times, you are very indecisive you waver and falter when forced to make a choice because you have the ability to see both sides of any question. The positive part of this is that you are very fair-minded and can be trusted to settle disputes. Your greatest challenge is to take any one- on-one encounter and make the most of it. ”
Good way to bump up your wording for that next interview I must say. Who wouldn’t want to hear that?
But on a more serious note, I don’t think anyone ever gets something extremely truthful because the nice, soft, friendly sounding nature could simply just put folks off if they were told in a more blunt manner. There is a specific word-art to this kind of like the ‘voice’ in JRR Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings. Joel Olstein is pretty good at this stuff too.
This one is interesting:
“Jupiter is in 11 Degrees Scorpio.
You love to dig deep beneath surface appearances in order to find out what is really happening. A persistent researcher, you are very interested in the psychology of any situation. You tend to become overwhelmed by the complexity of what you uncover, however, and that makes you a bit gun-shy about explaining things to others. But you must learn to try to communicate as best you can because what you know is really very valuable to others.”
If any one wondered, yes, I experimented a bit using different dates and names and the above does not necessarily correspond directly to me. I’ll take the nice sounding parts thank you very much. Otherwise, Bruce was correct, it is entertaining.
MH says:
January 28, 2014 at 6:50 pm
I’ll put one up soon. Let’s keep in mind that it isn’t a lack of respect to ask for substantiation, as I mentioned.
Reply
Tony Vasquez – Professional Astrologer says:
January 28, 2014 at 7:12 pm
Right, but there is only two ways of substantiating the correct Astrology – 1. Having a reading, (which I will not solicit on this blog), and 2. Studying and working in the subject for years,(I have never had a student in 34 years that understood Astrology well in less than 7 years.
Oh by the way, RECORD COLD TEMPERATURES IN THE USA (one of my predictions) ARE FORECASTED TO HIT SOON.
Predictions are only a small percentage of the way Astrology can be substantiated. Mainly, one proves Astrology to oneself through much study and hard work.
Thank you.
Reply
Tony Vasquez – Professional Astrologer says:
January 28, 2014 at 8:49 pm
Just for the record – I have never disagreed with Billy on this blog. But, I will vehemently disagree with ANYONE who says that Astrology is a pseudo-science.
MH says:
January 28, 2014 at 6:50 pm
I’ll put one up soon. Let’s keep in mind that it isn’t a lack of respect to ask for substantiation, as I mentioned.
Reply
Tony Vasquez – Professional Astrologer says:
January 28, 2014 at 7:12 pm
Right, but there are only two ways of substantiating the correct Astrology – 1. Having a reading, (which I will not solicit on this blog), and 2. Studying and working in the subject for years, (I have never had a student in 34 years that understood Astrology well in less than 7 years.)
Oh by the way, RECORD COLD TEMPERATURES IN THE USA (one of my predictions for 2014) ARE FORECASTED TO HIT SOON.
Predictions are only a small percentage of the way Astrology can be substantiated. Mainly, one proves Astrology to oneself through much study and hard work.
Thank you.
Reply
Tony Vasquez – Professional Astrologer says:
January 28, 2014 at 8:49 pm
Just for the record – I have never disagreed with Billy on this blog. But, I will vehemently disagree with ANYONE who says that Astrology is a pseudo-science.
Unfortunately Tony , any of your knowledge has come from handed down teachings from earth based sciences etc etc etc. And based on earthly based calculations , close enough just doesn’t cut it !. For example, if i was to travel 1000 miles on a specific coordinate , lets say 129 degrees south and “OOPS” when you got to the end , found your self miles away from your destination point , because you were out by .1 of a degree.Even 1000th of a point of a degree. Well that insignificant error has you completely lost . Unless you have the correct apparatus for calculating such a fine tuned art (which we DO NOT HAVE here on earth ) I fail to see any correct meaning to astrology here on this planet , regardless of how many years you have studied .You could put most of your findings down as coincidences .Unfortunately we will gain the knowledge of this “advanced” art, but WAY WAY way into our future when we become advanced enough and spiritually advanced enough to be able to make this happen . But i don’t think any of us down here on earth are “from the future”. Just being realistic
Utmost kindest regards , Wayne Anthony Sunter-Smith
Salome
Everything you said is incorrect. You have no inkling of Astronomy, nor of the correct Astrology. You would have to take classes in both subjects for years, before you could understand my explanations of the points you put forth.
Tony , Just ahead of time here , i respect what you are striving for , and if you are making a living from this , or held in high regard to some as an astrologer in your circle , then please respect the mission , bring forth admittance and not destructive criticism. I used to have a big ego once admittedly
But i have changed completely to “truths” and being true , not by having beliefs and believing.
I have no ego problem, and I don’t brag or boast, I simply speak the truth. Of course, I respect the mission, and my criticism is always meant to be constructive. You are certainly misunderstanding me. Read my posts again, maybe that will help you.
Tony,
I am sincerely interested if you have developed a true and accurate form of astrology. Please, I’ll have a reading. A free one perhaps, a little taste test? If it appears better than anything I can get off of any ol’ website, than I will gladly report that here.
If this is agreeable to you, great. I assume you’d need my birth date: April 19, 1987.
If you do take me up on it–and if you are as good as you say–should probably do it through personal email, so as not to reveal to everyone what a whack-job I am. If you’re up for it, let me know here and I’ll get in touch with you through email.
Thanks. Regards.
Sure, that would be good. You can contact me at: tv723astro@gmail.com
You will need your exact time of birth.
Thank you
Fantastic. I’ll ask my mother about that and get back to you soon.
Andy
You have put some personal details here and if I may I would like to ask you how much of the information below seems accurate of you personally?
I would be very interested.
You have a great need for other people to like and admire you.
You have a tendency to be critical of yourself
. You have a great deal of unused capacity which you have not turned to your advantage.
While you have some personality weaknesses, you are generally able to compensate for them.
Your sexual adjustment has presented problems for you.
Disciplined and self-controlled outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure inside
. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing.
You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations
. You pride yourself as an independent thinker and do not accept others’ statements without satisfactory proof
. You have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others
. At times you are extroverted, affable, and sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, reserved.
Some of your aspirations tend to be pretty unrealistic
. Security is one of your major goals in life.
Regards
Dave
Sure. Because I love talking about myself:
1st sentence (see your ‘reading’ with sentences numbered reproduced below)-I wouldn’t say “great need”…but me thinks probably most the population would have to fess up to this to some degree.
2nd–Surely. Again, as most anyone.
3- This is everyone in the world.
4-Miss, I am perfect.
5-I dont know what this means…but I’m confident saying it’s a miss.
6-At times. Again, most people to some degree, no?
7-As (hopefully) everyone else, yes.
8-As everyone, yes.
9-Like most people (whether they truly are independent thinker or not), yes.
10-Sure.
11-Yes, I am a human being for the most part.
12-Probably so. More so than most people, though? Maybe, I am a dreamer.
13-I can say an outright miss here.
Yes, much of it is accurate-ish. As it would be for most people.
I will attempt to be as objective/unbiased as possible, and I won’t expect something like perfection, but if Tony’s reading appears substantially better this–more accurate, more SPECIFIC–than I will gladly report that here.
(Got my momma lookin for a baby book to find an exact time of birth! Stand by. Be in touch soon hopefully, Tony.) Later Dave.
1 You have a great need for other people to like and admire you.
2 You have a tendency to be critical of yourself
3 You have a great deal of unused capacity which you have not turned to your advantage.
4 While you have some personality weaknesses, you are generally able to compensate for them.
5 Your sexual adjustment has presented problems for you.
6 Disciplined and self-controlled outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure inside
7 At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing.
8 You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations
9 . You pride yourself as an independent thinker and do not accept others’ statements without satisfactory proof
10 . You have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others
11 . At times you are extroverted, affable, and sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, reserved.
Some of your aspirations tend to be pretty unrealistic
12. Security is one of your major goals in life.
Whoops, numbers went awry. Was all good up to 11.
12-which should correspond to “Some of your aspirations tend to be pretty unrealistic”
Answer:-Probably so. More so than most people, though? Maybe, I am a dreamer.
13-which shoulda corresponded to “Security is one of your major goals in life”
Answer: Probably an outright miss
As time goes on, I’m sure Tony is triple checking and proof reading the grand lessons on HIS ASTROLOGY as I watch the SOTU ongoing right now. We’re here to see some proof of his claims and hopefully it will be a thought provoking intelligent read.
The exact time of birth is when the Head crown enters into the atmosphere , not when the whole of the baby is out ! This also has to be taken into consideration !! That could range from seconds to minutes .
Another fact relatively unknown !
That is incorrect. The moment of birth is when the newborn takes his/her first breath. Most doctors do not write that time down, usually it’s later, but birth times can be corrected with an depth study of the natal chart and transits chart.
Tony,
Wayne is correct in what he wrote. The time of birth is when the top of the head ‘crowns’, not when the entire baby is out and takes it’s first breath. For you to say he is incorrect is an assumption in itself. The information, which I’ve read myself (contained in the volumes of Meier material), comes directly from a very reliable source (the Plejaren), not just some man-made scientific belief based on passed down information (which is incorrect a lot of the time).
Sincerely,
Lotus H.
You and they are incorrect. Do you think the Ps are perfect humans and never make a mistake? I could give you statements in the Meier material, where the Ps admit that they do make mistakes, and have much to learn. I speak from first hand experience, it’s the first breath, because that is when the process of reincarnation takes place.
Just thought I’d pop in for a belly laugh on my way back to the Puffer Fish.
Wrong again, Mr. 4%
Tony, my lad, you contend that the Plejren are wrong and you are right [makes me feel better about you knowing the Meier material better than me!] about this too? “it’s the first breath, because that is when the process of reincarnation takes place.”
For the record, the folks who actually DO know the truth – the Plejaren – say 21 days after conception, at the time the embryonic heart starts to beat.
Tony, abandon your lonely struggle. You are grossly outnumbered. Throw down your arms and surrender while you can. You will be treated well.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Wow.
Do you know the types of “mistakes” they make before it took you the two seconds to type that?
Usually their concentrated on other stuff and their mistakes, at least what I read, aren’t many or what I consider MAJOR things you would point out on someone. We’re talking about stuff you don’t need to apologize for from experience with human interaction when someone is really concentrate on something and made a ‘mistake’ on some other thing their not really dedicating much thought over.
Actually, I was researching this, as I had read about time of birth reckoning as done by the Plejaren. It could be anywhere from 5 mins. to an hour or more, depending on the woman and the circumstances of delivery, but my best guess is 30-45 mins before complete delivery. I’ve been studying astrology as a serious amateur for about 35 years. And I’ve home birthed 3 babies. This is a woman astrologist’s POV. That may be slightly more accurate than facility-recorded birth time, but still quite inexact compared to the Plejaren.
Ps Tony , i never said “you” yourself had a big ego , neither implied such , Please read ‘MY post again.And your reply was just as i had stated ! Ahead of time .. Kindest regards Wayne Anthony Sunter -Smith
From what I know of chinese astrology, a different (animal)symbol is given to represent the different levels/aspects/depths of a persons personality with the persons year being the outermost and therefore most general and/or shallow/external personality attributes, then the month, day, hour, and minute of birth showing deeper and deeper levels/aspects of a person’s personality. I recall reading in the contact notes how our (earth human’s) astrology is inexact in the flaw that we do not yet record our births from the second the top of the baby’s head touches the air.( I suppose if we did, our birth charts may show an even deeper level of one’s personality… But surely I’m just guessing).
My point in explaining this is that it seems harsh to say our astrology is entirely wrong, and, how I understood it from reading in the contact notes, was that our technology (metaphorically) uses a big fat sharpie marker instead of a .0005 mm gel pen to pinpoint on our personality “map” where/who we are and what our lives hold for us. In other words, the Plejaren technology is much more exact and much less ambiguous than our own. It doesn’t make our technology wrong (although I have not personally studied and/or scientifically analyzed the accuracy of birth chart readings beyond personal random exploration, so for all I know our “maps” may be flawed as well), but regardless our results are surely courser, less fine-tuned. Note this seems to be the case not only in our astrological technology, but all of it…(we must keep in mind that the Plejaren view of our most advanced nanotechnology is comparable to our view of the stone age).
Can someone share the contact note sections where they spoke about astrology? I’d like to reread them.
Also, there was a contact where Billy (speaking to Ptaah I believe) had mathemmatically figured out something like at what age a person ideally meets their life partner, and I recall it depended upon ethnicity, location, population density, one’s astrological sign, and perhaps some other things, and it included a rough chart that I’m curious to find again. If someone knows what contact number/section this was, please share! Thanks!
Salome,
A
Tony , maybe this might help you . The Plejaren forefathers expressed symbols for this solar system around 12,000 years ago, but they have changed several times and some have been completely lost in the run of time. However, somehow they have always returned in their original form as they do today. Each single symbol contains quite special characteristic values regarding a star. These symbols convert themselves into emissions that affect people by showing associated peculiarities in physical, psychical, and spiritual spheres.
All stars are important with time playing a dominant part. To obtain exact astrological values, the determining of time to the second, is of enormous importance. This is a factor that is unfortunately not regarded by earthly astrologers. Their evaluations are usually only determined in relation to minutes, which only leads to approximate results. Consequently, the horoscopes on Earth are not very exact. In only a few cases are they correct, which occurs when the number of seconds relates to the proper number of minutes. In respect to human beings, the moment when the top of the head begins to show is regarded as the time of birth. As soon as the top of the head becomes exposed, influences from the outside world are concentrated and penetrate through the top of the baby. The effective emissions of outer influences complete the whole and improve it. This means that the times of many births on Earth are incorrect. This has enormous meaning for every individual.
There is a special symbol for Erra as well as for all other stars. It is rather peculiar, as it is very similar to the symbols on Earth for the Sun and other planets. This is because the symbols for the stars trace back to the Plejaren forefathers, who created each of them according to the vibrations and emissions of each star and each single sign shows its level of evolution. This is valid as well for the Plejaren home planet of Erra, whose sign was combined from different old traditional symbols of their forefathers. This is also used on Earth for the planets of this solar system. The laying part of the symbol represents the balance between up and down and its harmony. This is different for other symbols of the solar system where balance does not exist with dominant negative or positive values.
Quetzal states that terrestrial astrology can only be extremely flawed, namely because the signs of the zodiac are constantly shifting as a result of the pole oscillation and rotation.Ptaah states that ” All I know is that for a precise astrology, very many factors and much knowledge are important, and these demand far too much from the overall knowledge of the Earth people of the modern era.
97. Therefore, it would be virtually impossible for the Earth person to conduct a precise astrology.
I’m very familiar with what you have posted above.
Not only have I been a professional astrologer for over 30 years, but I have also taught the great science of the stars to 1000s of students within that time. I base my astrological knowledge mostly on experience. I have studied over 40,000 natal charts in my life. This is my first attempt to teach Astrology online. We’ll see how it goes.
Thank you.
“We’ll see how it goes.”
You have to WAIT AND SEE???
Hi again Tony,
Hope you’re well.
Here’s what you might be able to help me with.
You wrote, “Not only have I been a professional astrologer for over 30 years, but I have also taught the great science of the stars to 1000s of students within that time.”30 years, but I have also taught the great science of the stars to 1000s of students”
You’ve made some provocative comments about your scholarship, intelligence and above all the accuracy of your predictions (which Billy unambiguously publicly states are impossible for you “for predicting the future other means [other than astrology] are necessary: probability calculations, preview of the future (Zukunftsschau), etc”) made me a more than little curious as to who exactly this Tony Vasquez Professional Astrologer actually IS, and that just made me more puzzled when I tried to find the truth, instead of just unhesitatingly believing you about your accuracy and abilities to “understand all of life”. Makes me wonder why you need to read ANY of the Meier texts.
“I practice a form that is astronomically correct and based on 30 years of research and full time practice … I am a man of a very high intelligence and a scholar of many serious and important spiritual and practical subjects, and in my educated opinion skepticism/doubt is evil. You can say otherwise for a thousand years, it will not change my mind. You would simply be incorrect.”
Seems like a textbook example of the very close-mindedness you so rightly condemn in the fake “Skeptics”.
So what I don’t understand, Tony, and I’m not being accusative, just trying to get to the truth, as is everybody’s creational obligation – where are your Internet footprints? Where are your publications? Where is there any record that you actually exist in the form of, say, unsolicited testimonials from thousands of satisfied customers about the accuracy of your predictions? I’m frankly bewildered. Why is Googling you so unrewarding, like dropping a pebble down a well and never hearing it splash?
All I could find was this:
http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/tag/tony-vasquez/
I asked you these questions last year and am waiting patiently for someone, who you might deign to convey this important info to, to pick up the ball and ask you.
Cheers!
Since this is one of your shortest comments I’ll take the opportunity to express a concern. As anyone who’s seen the ongoing whatever it is between you and Tony may observe, you have in many posts (and UN-posted comments) addressed/attacked him with the same ferocity that may have been warranted and understandable for one of the pedophiles that you’ve previously publicly targeted.
You’ve certainly asked pertinent, reasonable questions pertaining to his claims, etc., many of which appear to not be specifically, credibly answered by Tony. However, since you also point out that he seemingly has no internet footprint, trace of public record, existence, client references, endorsements, etc., it seems to me that all of your accusations, fears, etc., that Tony must be raking it in and ripping off people by the boatload is…refuted by your own research. So it seems like irresponsible bullying on your part, where you shot first and did your research later.
Sure, Tony states that he has been doing this for x number of years, for thousands of students, clients, etc. But you can’t have it both ways. So unless you can substantiate your accusations and concerns, it seems not only unfair but irresponsible to effectively accuse someone of some kind of financial scam without evidence. Yes, you can certainly challenge Tony on all of his claims and on how he responds, or fails to respond to them.
But it also seems to me that one of the things that Ptaah had admonished you about regarding the pedophiles was that you failed to prove that certain people you accused were in fact pedophiles. So being fast and loose with accusations against someone when your own research seems to contradict those accusations isn’t right.
Tony , you only have astrology today “because of the Plajaren . Youve learnt from THEM !! So as a student of plajaren astrology , consider the fact that the above mentioned facts are indeed of correctness !
Sorry to burst your bubble mate , but “the truth is Harsh”
I disagree with much of what you have posted, and if you continue with that line of thinking, I will be wasting my time with you. The form of Astrology that I have developed is accurate, it has been accurate for 30+ years, precision is not a problem for me, because I can correct all birth times with an in depth study of the charts involved.
Tony, I know that many people will perceive that just because someone disagrees with you it’s not necessarily a waste of time. To the contrary, we can often learn more from interacting with people who see things other than we do. I may feel I know far more about the content of the Billy Meier case and its evidence, etc., but I’ve learned a tremendous amount from my interactions with the skeptics who categorically oppose it and me. And it’s often said that our true friends are the ones who will go through the abrasive processes involved in real learning. So I would encourage that disagreements be met with responses rather than dismissals.
Also, according to the Meier information, it is indeed the moment/second of the crowning that they regard as the moment of birth. This isn’t my area of expertise but obviously one of interest to me.
I will meet disagreement with – that’s correct, or incorrect.
To me, it’s as if I were to attempt to teach a five year old child calculus – The branch of mathematics that deals with limits and the differentiation and integration of functions of one or more variables. – that would be impossible, because the child would not have the necessary mathematical knowledge to learn an advanced form of math.
Therefore, people here must be willing to learn with an open mind, and not present waste of time “disagreements” or “arguments”. If I state something as a fact, I will not be changing my mind about that fact any time soon, if at all. And I reserve the right to dismiss anyone, if I judge that to be the correct thing to do.
Again, I do not have the time, nor the desire, to argue my Astrological positions and knowledge, which I know are facts based on my scientific work. I will teach, discuss, and work with people here, but I will not engage in waste of time arguments about what I know are facts.
With all due respect.
Thank you.
You do run the risk of not fulfilling your own intention to teach and inform…if you predetermine that any/all disagreements reflect a lack of knowledge, or must be categorically wrong. No scientist would take that approach because, if they’re truly confident in their knowledge, they can satisfactorily answer the challenge…or stand corrected, as of course happens historically with all sciences. Of course testability is an important factor in the sciences too.
If you try to restrict inquiry, challenge and openness, and come off as rigid or dictatorial, it’s certain to damage your credibility, especially since astrology isn’t viewed as a science by the majority of people. And I think the purpose of this blog is to basically give you the opportunity to make your case for it as a science.
We’ll see about that Michael. I am a very experienced teacher.
Remember when Galileo taught that the Earth was round to the “scientific” community that believed that it was flat. They threw him in prison for teaching “heresy”, and would not release him until he retracted his statement. Well, I doubt if I’ll be imprisoned for stating facts, but I know that I will meet with much disagreement. I will deal with it according to my judgment.
Thank you.
Tony Vasquez – Professional Astrologer says:
January 29, 2014 at 4:11 pm
We’ll see about that Michael. I am a very experienced teacher.
Remember when Galileo taught that the Earth was round to the “scientific” community that believed that it was flat. They threw him in prison for teaching “heresy”, and would not release him until he retracted his statement. Well, I doubt if I’ll be imprisoned for stating facts, but I know that I will meet with much disagreement. I will deal with it according to my judgment.
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Now now Tony, I disagree with many things you have to say. I practice the great Science of History and have enough sense and experience to know some statements and sayings of things are incorrect.
No general consensus in the “scientific” community (as you put in quotes) believed the Earth was flat. Read up on this to learn more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth
“Historian Jeffrey Burton Russell says the flat-earth error flourished most between 1870 and 1920, and had to do with the ideological setting created by struggles over evolution.[5] Russell claims “with extraordinary [sic] few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat”, and credits histories by John William Draper, Andrew Dickson White, and Washington Irving for popularizing the flat-earth myth.[6]”
Galileo made claims about >Helio-centricity< and was not thrown in prison. Galileo was in house arrest after submitting to an inquiry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
"After a period with the friendly Ascanio Piccolomini (the Archbishop of Siena), Galileo was allowed to return to his villa at Arcetri near Florence in 1634, where he spent the remainder of his life under house arrest. Galileo was ordered to read the seven penitential psalms once a week for the next three years. However his daughter Maria Celeste relieved him of the burden after securing ecclesiastical permission to take it upon herself.[64] It was while Galileo was under house arrest that he dedicated his time to one of his finest works, Two New Sciences. Here he summarised work he had done some forty years earlier, on the two sciences now called kinematics and strength of materials, published in Holland to avoid the censor. This book has received high praise from Albert Einstein.[65] As a result of this work, Galileo is often called the "father of modern physics". He went completely blind in 1638 and was suffering from a painful hernia and insomnia, so he was permitted to travel to Florence for medical advice."
Tony I would of loved for you to do an astological reading on myself also !
I asked my Mum for my exact time of birth , but she could only provide the time in which i was out . Not when she was crowning with me ……..So it would make my reading incorrect/ or only approx.
Don’t worry about that. All you need is the birth time that is written down, we can certainly achieve much astrological success from a chart based on it. Of course, knowing the exact second that a child is born is best, but birth times can be corrected with competent astrological work.
Hi Michael,
I did post the following in “And Did They Listen”, but I would like to re-post it here, I have made a few changes.
I’m going to post some Astrological predictions, a few of the 100 that I have made for the next 12 months. I practice a very unique (to Earth), astronomically correct form of Astrology. But let me say again, that I have never been 100% accurate in my yearly predictions in my 30+ years as a professional astrologer. Though, I have achieved a very high percentage at times, as high as 90%.
Predictive Astrology still needs more work, and better computer technology, in order to have a consistently high accuracy rate. Of course, no astrologer can compare to the Ps in accuracy with their “views into the future” technology and their time travel capabilities, but some view into the future is better than none.
Astrology is a very useful science when it comes to self-analysis and self-knowledge, as well as understanding all relationships, career choices, and financial matters, etc. But Predictive Astrology is still very much a work in progress, as far as I am concerned.
Below are a few references to Astrology in the Meier material, which prove that the Ps and Billy know that Astrology is a valid science.
“There are virtually never any incompatible couples due to the use of advanced astrology and other social sciences.
Thus there are virtually never any divorces on Erra and furthermore, all childrens’ well-being is guaranteed.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Erra
“These priests were also responsible for astrology and for the observation of the stars and, logically, also for the calculations of the calendars because time and its activity played a very important and central role in the thinking and life of the Maya.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_134
Semjase’s birthday – February 7th – 54.110-113
“When the Plejaren 13 month calendar is converted into Earth’s 12-month chronology per year, then Semjase’s birthday would fall on the 7th of February. Her birth is under the astrology sign of Aquarius. These star signs have been known since ancient times on Earth by our common forefathers and the same signs were transferred to the Pleja System. But from their perspective, the positions are greatly shifted and result in another arrangement.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Chapter_4_-_PLEYARENS
So, here are my predictions, using the correct form of Astrology, let’s see how I fare.
1. Major Earthquake Catastrophes in the following countries:
– Chile, Japan, Indonesia, Philippines, and China.
2. Weather:
– Record level rainfall and floods in the USA.
– Record breaking cold weather in USA, crops ruined in Florida, California, and other states.
3. Deaths:
– Kim Jong Un, leader of North Korea (poisoned).
– Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, England (cancer).
– Morgan Freeman, actor (heart).
– Larry King, talk show host (lungs).
– Miley Cyrus, singer (murdered)
4. The Economy:
– US economy will not improve, unemployment rises.
– Gold prices will reach $1900 – $2000 again.
– Many people will realize that Obamacare is an insurance companies scam.
5. Terrorism and War:
– Terrorist attack in Russia affects 25,000+ people.
– War between Israel/US and Iran starts.
Thank you.
“We’ll see about that Michael. I am a very experienced teacher.”
I don’t understand why you have to wait to see. Don’t you already know?
🙂
You’d doing fine, TV. Hilarious.
I particularly enjoyed this one:
“Therefore, people here must be willing to learn with an open mind, and not present waste of time “disagreements” or “arguments”. If I state something as a fact, I will not be changing my mind about that fact any time soon, if at all. And I reserve the right to dismiss anyone, if I judge that to be the correct thing to do.”
We have to keep an open mind, and accept without question that Tony’s mind is made up and not subject be being changed. That’s called HYPOCRISY.
And “delusions of grandeur”.
I’ll be back.
I am grateful that Michael has established this blog for the purpose of discussing Astrology, and I am willing to engage in conversations and serious discussions with individuals who are:
1. Sincere and seriously interested in the subject.
2. Have an open mind towards it.
3. Are willing to do some work and study in it.
4. Do not express doubt and skepticism towards it.
5. Are respectful, polite, and grateful for the opportunity.
Anyone who doesn’t agree with the above, can stay away.
I’m not here to convince anyone of the validity and great value of Astrology. I’m here to help you convince yourself.
Thank you.