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Crop Circles (Part 2)

Regarding the crop circles and the mathematical formulas purportedly contained therein, it seems antithetical to the approach that the Plejaren have taken, in as much as they don’t present their “message” in a rarified language that mainly only specialists, like scientists and mathematicians, can more readily comprehend.

The crop circle language would then be directed more towards…the elite. But the Plejaren and Billy Meier specifically criticize the specialized terms that scientists create and use to separate themselves from, and elevate themselves above, the ordinary people.

So what does that say about the intentions and effectiveness of the supposed extraterrestrial circle makers in their UFOs?

Some may say they could be providing groundbreaking mathematical/geometrical information. Really? And just how, when and where is it going to be shown to be uniquely important and useful to humanity…before or after the (crop and “canvas” destroying) droughts, environmental destruction and breakdown of society, etc.?

Perhaps they are trying to share their secrets of “free energy” with us, etc. Have any of the people supposedly developing such devices ever said that they’ve made their breakthroughs from the corp cirlces…let alone demonstrated that this is so?

Of course I’d be as delighted as anyone to know that some cosmic Van Gogh is swirling the grain for us horizontally. But even should that turn out to be the case, it may just show that far more advanced beings can also be inspiring, creative and playful. Maybe they’re the entertainment to accompany the far more strict, sober, direct and unambiguous messages and assistance contained in the spiritual teaching, which as I said before will long survive after the crop circles are plowed under.

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Andy

Thanks to all for the comments regarding free will.

Dyson,

From a cursory glance, I can see how Goedel’s theorem may help address the free will issue. Thanks for that. New question: Obviously there countless resources to learn German, but how would one go about learning this ancient ET/Elite symbol language you speak of?

Dyson Devine

Hi Andy,

Big task. (I suggest German first.)

But you can start with Googling “dictionary of symbols pdf”.

Later, try to specify the occult ones you want (tricky – lots of disinfo) but the main ones are very basic and are UBIQUITOUS.

Study Nokodemions symbols:

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.symbole.htm

It takes a many years if you’re gifted and dedicated – much longer if you’re not.

Here’s something about free will I can’t link to from Might of the Thoughts.

Cheers!

“The principle of the universe is the principle of the life, and this principle is the law of evolution through cause and effect – the law of causality, whereby every single effect, every single occurrence and every single action, and so forth, has a preceding cause. And in accordance with this law, the human being himself/herself creates fairness or unfairness, and, indeed, by means of his/her thoughts. Creation, in contrast to that, only knows fairness, because it is completely neutral-positive-equalised and, therefore, knows no feeling-based or other impulsations which could be other than of a neutral-positive-equalised kind. Therefore, neither revenge nor hate are inherent in it, rather only love and harmony, as well as freedom and equalisedness; and its laws and recommendations are also laid out accordingly, quite in accord with its BEING, which is in goodness, love, peace, freedom, harmony and equalisedness, and, in turn, creates the same from itself, because it lives according to the law of causality, which it created. It has also determined this law for the human being; consequently he/she also lives according to cause and effect. However, the human being, as a free Wesen* evolving itself according to its own will without any intervention from the Creation, is unknowledgeable beyond compare in relation to the creational universal consciousness and is additionally not only obstinate, rather also capable of doing as he/she likes according to his/her free will. Equipped with a free will and absolute freedom of action, the human being is, therefore, able to determine his/her way and evolution himself/herself, and, with that, naturally, also the kind of his/her thinking and the actions and results, and so forth, which arise from them, quite according to the law of cause and effect into which he/she is indeed integrated in accord with Creation. And this law is fairness on one hand, and the guiding principle of life on the other: fair, because the human being has to determine his/her way, in every direction and regard, absolutely himself/herself, and is innately responsible himself/herself for his/her thoughts and actions in every form; and, guiding principle, because the human being himself/herself determines every cause and effect by means of his/her consciousness and thoughts, independent of some kind of creationally-provided influences. In this way, fairness and the creational guiding principle become the consciousness and the nature of the life. But the result of that is that righteousness in all things is the connecting and motivating power in the realm of the consciousness in this world, and thereby also with the human being, and indeed absolutely; consequently, no kind of corruption and no falseness find room anywhere any longer. And since that is actually so, the human being must always vindicate himself/herself, in every respect and in every case, solely before himself/herself, when it is to do with his/her thinking and actions and with the bearing of responsibility. And this vindication before himself/herself must happen before it is found out that the laws of the Creation are right, and alone have validity; the vindication must occur before one finds out about the sole validity of the creational laws, because a necessary cognition in regard to the form of the thoughts must be created which enables any recognition of the laws at all. Only as a result of this cognition is the human being able to effectively find in favour of himself/herself – because only in this way does he/she begin to live in the sense of the creational laws and recommendations. And if he/she has reached this point, when he/she can assess his/her thoughts as being right, then he/she also sees that situations, human beings and circumstances always change in relation to himself/herself, when he himself/she herself changes his/her thoughts in regard to the situations, the human beings and the circumstances.” p.64

*Wesen: [‘ve:zn] (pl Wesen) an independently existing life-form with its own individuality and personality in an impulse, instinct or conscious consciousness-form that is specifically directed towards all possibilities of evolution, and with its own physical, psychical (relating to the psyche), conscious, part-conscious, unconscious, impulse- or instinct-related development-forms (human being, animal, creature and plants).

Dyson Devine

Just thought I’d remind people here that I tried to support my “non-terrestrials” views a little here:

https://theyflyblog.com/the-little-fish-that-could/01/28/2014#comment-18171

and on the 2nd CC thread too a bit.

https://theyflyblog.com/whats-the-truth-about-crop-circles/02/05/2014

Also, and very significantly, my technical understanding ALONE of the way things like microwaves work (radar is precisely focused modulated microwaves) plus all the physics behind other gravitational (etc. etc. etc. etc.) effects displayed in CC’s, plus my understanding of what the D.O. has in its arsenal* leads me to reject the “natives” causal hypothesis.

I think that anyone capable of studying Billy’s openly published work (not just a tiny smidgen of it) can also quickly understand the nature of crop circles.

Anyone who can’t or won’t, can’t or won’t.

Cheers!

* http://www.cheniere.org

Dyson Devine

Important Information about Puffer Fish Circles!*

I’ve been informed, by an impeccable source, that Billy’s book, “Die Art zu Leben”, which we’re in the process of translating into English, has been given the working title of “The Way to Live” (not, “Hot to Live”). Good!

Billy doesn’t like the English word, “way” for the German word, “Art”, which is why you often see sentences like, “It cannot be done in this wise.”

But to avoid confusion, he’s made an exception for the title of our new book.

Cheers!

* Ha ha! Fooled you AGAIN, didn’t I?

🙂

Dyson Devine

I hope this new thread title doesn’t actually PRECLUDE information with more light than heat, but I thought I’d mention a few other things about crop circles which you might find informative if not entertaining.

Oh, alright. Just a quick one then,

“Yo Mama is so fat that when she gets up from sitting on the grass she leaves behind crop circles.”

OK?

It’s been discovered that, in spite of the fact that not all farmers are very happy about getting a CC, most who DO get one actually ARE. Whoever/whatever makes them generally knows which landowners are receptive and which aren’t. Likewise, mysterious men in suits often arrive at the farmhouse door as the first the farmer knows about his gratuitous field art, (assuming he hasn’t already been awakened by the low-flying unmarked black helicopters first). These men generously offer money in exchange for an early selective harvest and silence.

Nancy Talbot has some interesting stories about a Dutch guy who seems to have something going on related to CCs & ESP.

Not only do people and electronic equipment go silly or get sick when entering CCs, sometimes there seem to even be localized TIME distortions, one even caught on FILM. (!?)

Eltjo Haselhoff’s had some inexplicable personal sleep-cycle disturbances after his CC visits – either a great and sustained burst of energy which demanded no sleep for a long time, or the exact reverse. It’s a commonly described effect. He also describes some really bizarre “readings” from a lady he met who psychically interprets the designs, (?). One of the reasons I was shocked to be (wrongly, as it happily turned out) told that Professor Haselhoff had died is because, during the “readings” the lady suddenly said, “Just a minute. Just a minute. They’re sending me a message…..Oh, how lovely for you! They told me you’ll never be sick again.” And he reported – at the time of that writing – that his normal cold/wet Netherlands history of head-colds and the occasional bout of flu ended at that point and he never got sick again. This was a few years ago and he’s gone quiet now, so I dunno. Read his book. It’s the only scientific one on the market as far as I know, and utterly fascinating. Not dry and hard to read, but there are some sections which go too deeply into the mathematics for normal people.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/DCoCC_Excerpts.htm

As I said, my old dead website had heaps about these things, so you could ask James Moore to upload more if you want. Some busted-up bits still exist.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/SIGNS.htm

I’m more interested in Billy’s material these days. But read Michael’s two previous recent pages if you want to learn more, particularly the Puffer fish page.

Just another thought about Earthlings’ technology:

In so far as I’m aware – and I’m relatively well aware – ignoring the sheer size of these things for a moment, nobody on the planet can, at a distance, manage to do this:

http://youngbloodblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/crop-circle-close-up-silbury-hill-near-avebury-wiltshire-reported-3rd-august-2009.jpg?w=400

http://youngbloodblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/crop-circle-weaved-twirled-silbury-hill-near-avebury-wiltshire-reported-3rd-august-2009.jpg?w=400

And that’s the whole point, as far as I can tell.

Cheers!

Andy

Awesome. Thanks. I think you’ve provided more than enough evidence that something…very strange is going on with these things. To think otherwise would surely be to engage in that naughty skepticism Michael warns about.

Dyson Devine

These comments of mine don’t seem to be going where I try to put them, and are ending up all over the place.

But at least they’re more likely to get through these days.

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Dyson Devine

Did you mean to write, “it would be nice to have something less arguable”

“LESS” arguable? Is this another joke?

Arguable: it may be argued (used to qualify the statement of an opinion or belief).

Argue: 1. give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one’s view.
2. exchange or express diverging or opposite views, typically in a heated or angry way.

If you don’t want typical heat or anger, and you haven’t learnt how to unlearn it in yourself, I suggest that you at least try t make a good start by not having thread titles like this one “Heated debate..” or “Battle of the Brains”.

And my contributions are not going where I put them, but are moving up the page.

Thanks.

joe devine

hey dyson ive been looking for you!

Dyson Devine

Hi all,

I’m busy trying to learn Tasmanian law at the moment in the absence of any real hope that we’ll EVER get any professional help from the legal “fraternity”, but Professor “Zahi” gave me permission to share our private correspondence, so I made the time to do that for you. I watched the video, to which he refers, which is pretty good even though it’s five years old so it doesn’t show the bigger and more complex forms made since then. It’s a German production, with voice-overs in English, and Spanish subtitles. I couldn’t help thinking that the people who most need to watch this either won’t or the facts will never effectively change their belief-systems. The very last aphorism in OM goes something like, “A sour pickle will never become sweet.” Cheers!

About the Crop Circles it is more than a bunch of guys bending crops at night with ropes and sticks. It seems to be caused by microwave energy, affecting not only the crops, but the soil below them. I like this documentary, since it shows several explanations, from ETs to unknown force of nature.

Dyson Devine

The Roswell bio-organic androids had five – plus a thumb.

http://www.puppstheories.com/forum/images/roswell6fingerControlsOrigSize.jpg

Duke

The book of 2 Samuel 21:20 lists the giants of old as having 12 fingers and toes.

http://www.newadvent.org/bible/2sa021.htm

15 War broke out again between Israel and the Philistines, and David went to battle against them with his men. But David’s strength had left him; 16 and he came near to being struck down by Jesbi-Benob, a man of the Araphite breed, that had a spear-head of ten pounds weight, and a new sword at his side. 17 It was Abisai, Sarvia’s son, that came to the king’s rescue, and gave the Philistine his death-blow. But after that David’s men swore that he should never go into battle with them again; that light must not be lost to Israel. 18 In another battle against the Philistines, at Gob, Saph, of the giant breed of Arapha, was slain by Sobochai, from Husathi; 19 in a third, also at Gob, Elehanan the son of Jaare, an embroiderer from Bethlehem, slew Goliath of Geth, that had a shaft to his spear as big as a weaver’s beam.[2] 20 In a fourth, at Geth, there was a man of huge stature that had twelve fingers and twelve toes, another of the Araphite breed; 21 and he taunted Israel, till Jonathan, son of David’s brother Semma, struck him down. 22 All these four were Araphites from Geth, all slain by David and his men.

Paul Johnson

searched this vlog to see if there was any blogging about crop circles, and found this blog entry.

Found a video today and at first I thought it was just another boring ufology hype youtube video but I was surprised that it showed an interesting hypothesis about any crop circles that might be authentic and not made by cults or pranksters.

The video shares a hypothesis that they are pictures of certain sounds or even pictures of DNA patterns from the top-down view.

What do ya’all think about this?

Here’s the video that I’m referencing: