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Who Is the Stronger Leader?

Since Vladimir Putin’s strategic moves regarding Syria, some months back, it’s been quite popular for certain politically partisan people to criticize Obama as not being a strong leader shown up by Putin, etc.

It appears to me that when a leader/president is basically in agreement with the policies of the powers that be behind the scenes, i.e. the military, financial and corporate entities, such as is the case with Putin (and was the case with the Bushes) it’s easier to act powerfully and effectively to carry out one’s aims.
However, if one is basically a principled, conscious leader who truly cares for the welfare of his people, and whose personal principles are in direct opposition to many of those to whom he is beholden – and who doubtless has been reminded of the lessons of JFK/Dallas/1963 – it may be far harder to act according to those principles.
Certainly, the implimentation of a wonderful idea like affordable health care for all Americans is not solely under the control of the president. That it may have been manipulated in such a way that it turned out to be not quite what he had envisioned, is more the fault of the corporate and political powers that be…and the apathy of the American people.
But the venom that’s been directed at Obama for such a terrbile thing as trying to provide health care for a nation that spends its vast fortunes on wars, espionage, state sponsored torture and terrorism – all “in the guise of a so-called peaceful globalisation” – is unfortunately all too typical of the mentality that has developed here.
And it’s also channeled into an overwhelming obsession with arming oneself to the teeth, conspiracy and doomsday scenario groups, etc., such as are, as Meier himself had once said, bringing Armageddon upon themselves. With the probability of the country being in anarchy by 2020, it seems like more than a few people are looking to fulfill the worst of the prophecies, instead of trouble themselves to seek to be reasonable and cultivate true love, peace, freedom and harmony.

 

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Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Among many evils and stupidities, both of theses so-called leaders believe in the Christian fantasy God.

What is the source of Barack Obama’s insights?

“I think I have an ongoing conversation with God. Throughout the day I’m constantly asking myself questions about what I’m doing, why I am doing it.” (Barack Obama, April 2004)

http://www.godvoter.org/Obama-God-Barack.html

Still, Putin’s religiosity is a blessing to some in the international community. The Eastern Orthodox Church has asked him to protect Christians worldwide, and he has agreed. Russia’s controversial support of Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria is due to Putin’s concern that the Christian minority in that country will be persecuted if Assad is toppled.

Much remains to be seen, as Putin discovers his newfound devotion to God and Russia still grapples with its religious freedom.

http://hollowverse.com/vladimir-putin/

Sheila

Now replace God with innate wisdom and that would sound about right. Whoever he thinks he’s talking to, I find it encouraging that he’s constantly questioning himself (plus making fun of religion – ranks high in my books). I mean how many religious people actually question themselves about doing the right thing? They are more likely to take some bible crap and twist it to justify what they’ve just done.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Obama on God & Life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk6iB30L4tQ

Interesting and revealing video as to Obama’s “faith” and beliefs.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Obama: ‘God Has a Plan and … We’re an Instrument of His Will’

May 27, 2013 – 10:36 PM

By Terence P. Jeffrey

President Barack Obama, Moore, Oklahoma, tornado
Standing amidst tornado-caused devastation in Moore, Okla., on Sunday, May 26, President Barack Obama told Americans that ‘God has a plan’ and ‘we’re an instrument of His will.’

(CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama traveled on Sunday to Moore, Okla., where a massive tornado caused devastation last Monday. There he told Americans that God has a plan and it is important we recognize we are instruments of His will.

“There was a story that really struck me in the press,” Obama said. “In the rubble was found a Bible, open to the words that read: ‘A man will be as a hiding place from the wind, and a cover from the tempest.’ And it’s a reminder, as Scripture often is, that God has a plan, and it’s important, though, that we also recognize we’re an instrument of His will.”

The president was quoting from Isaiah 32–which, as translated in the King James version, goes on to say: “The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful. For the vile person will speak villainy, and his heart will work iniquity, to practice hypocrisy, and to utter error against the Lord.”
..- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-god-has-plan-and-we-re-instrument-his-will#sthash.uBSItvwr.dpuf

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-god-has-plan-and-we-re-instrument-his-will

Sheila

Why is it that every time there is a tornado incident in the U.S. where people are spared, some dumb ass always pipes up to thank god? In Canada you rarely see that. In my hometown another church shut it’s doors…I just want to thank god for that LOL.
Tony please get out of the crappy electromagnetic oscillations so prevalent in Vegas.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Hi Sheila,

You’re right, and I will asap.

gchamp

Yeah I find it funny how people also thank gods for their hard work that they themselves put in. With that kind of logic I could just believe and be blessed into a better position. Its laughable at best but if I work hard to obtain a goal, it feels much better to credit my consciousness instead

Sheila

But wouldn’t it be cool if some scientist were to thank the Plejaren for all the impulses they received? Editors would cut that part out, wouldn’t they?

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Here’s a beauty!

By REID J. EPSTEIN | 2/25/14 7:46 PM EST Updated: 2/25/14 11:18 PM EST

Touting the latest White House Obamacare benchmark, President Barack Obama told his political base not to be discouraged by partisan attacks and stressed that their cause is divine.

About 4 million people have signed up for private health care plans under the Affordable Care Act, Obama said Tuesday night at an Organizing for Action event in Washington, urging his supporters to keep pushing to enroll as many people as possible before the March 31 deadline.

“We’re going to make a big push these last few weeks,” Obama told OFA volunteers and officials. “I can talk, my team can talk here in Washington, but it’s not going to make as much of a difference as if you are out there making the case. The work you’re doing is God’s work. It is hard work.”

If you want Obama for your leader, you can have him. I think he’s “black preacher” type, religious idiot, who lies when he “has to”.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/barack-obama-organizing-for-action-volunteers-103954.html#ixzz2wctW5kLF

Andy

Of course he lies when he has to, he is a politician after all. Of course he is going to mention God in OKLAHOMA after a tornado. And of course he generally has to put up an appearance of religiosity at all times really… I feel like I’m stating the obvious here, but you clearly need things spelled out – you cannot be openly non-religious and be president. Not in America, not in this era. (I get that he’s already elected, but considering his already low ratings, and that he is already the “anti-christ” to many… he’s in no position now to ‘come out of the closet’ in regards to his non-religiosity). This is patently obvious.

On the other hand, maybe he is a fanatic “black preacher” type, what with all the being for gay rights and abortion – soooo black preacher-y… We all know how much black churches love the gays:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/20/lesbian-stoning-anti-gay-church_n_5000239.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Can you please take your head out of the stars for a moment, or did it get so inflated that it floated off to be left up there for eternity? Or maybe its stuck in your rear end; in any case, I can’t ever recall being so perturbed and disgusted with another person that I’m tempted to, like a whiny child, pull a Tony and refuse to speak anymore on account of you being so obviously and pathetically delusional, stubborn, arrogant and ignorant…

On the other hand, it is fun watching you dig yourself into a bigger and bigger hole, so I’ll stick around…

And oh yeah,

“The Malaysia Airlines aircraft, flight 370, that vanished three days ago, was destroyed by Muslim terrorists using a “suitcase nuke”. This information will come out on March 14th – 16th.”

What is the date today anyway?

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

On the 15th there was information that the plane had exploded.

Everything you said was incorrect and stupid.

You’re obviously not intelligent enough to converse with me, so this is my last reply to you.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Hi Michael,

With all due respect, you and I deal with skeptics differently. You’re nice to them, I’m harsh and dismissive. They are huge waste of my precious time. I couldn’t care less about them. From now on, I simply will ignore them.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Michael,

I think I can judge people better than you, better than anyone I ever met. Some people are sincerely trying to learn and act that way. Others are just acting skeptical, unintelligent, argumentative, and stupid.

You have to remember, I’ve been a professional astrologer for 35 years. I have encountered many stupid skeptics that know nothing of the subject, yet think they have a right to an opinion of it, and all they do, is repeat like parrots, what they heard, or read somewhere, that was incorrect. Then they want you to explain a subject to them that takes 7 years to master, if you have a rare talent for it.

I’ve been through this before, as I said, from now on, I will simply ignore the rude, insulting, stupid skeptics. They know who they are. I could mention their names, but you probably wouldn’t like that.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Hi Michael,

I disagree with what you said in your last post. I’ll have time later to reply. In my opinion, you are misunderstanding me. I think I can clear it up later.

Andy

Tony,

How did I know you were going to say that!!?!?! Oh my goodness. That is rich.

I feel like one of those defense attorneys, where the prosecution or plaintiff puts up such pathetically, embarrassingly weak case, that the defense just stands up and says “We have nothing to add, the defense rests…”

You’re right at least that to continue the conversation is pointless.

Michael,

Of course, you are exactly right. I pushed the line, got a little hot under the collar. “My bad…”

Thanks for moderating the slug fest.

(On the other hand, perhaps your comment was only directed at the other slugger, because he has demonstrated he is not a person “engaged in a search for truth” but rather a person on a campaign to spread unfounded opinion [which he encourages to be unquestionably believed] that is offensive to common sense [and the Meier/Plejaran information]).

Ugh, I can’t help myself but to get the last word on this ludicrousness it seems…

Schantz

I have to agree with Tony on this one. The plane either exploded on impact or in the air. Suitcases were involved in the mishap.

Radioactive Muslims from the Fukushima fallout were on board.

100% hit for Tony!

Andy

Tony,

Just so we’re clear… you’re referring to me as a “skeptic”??? In regards to what exactly? I don’t define myself as one, and I am of course wholly on board with the Meier info. As Michael has on many occasions discussed–and I wholly agree–if one defines themselves as a skeptic, that typically means they have a certain belief system (generally, strictly scientific materialism (which not only denies any para-psychology and the spiritual side of life, but often in the extreme case they deny outright any alien visitation or anything that they haven’t seen for themselves)). We all agree this position errs. I, as Meier admonishes, strive to maintain no beliefs.

BUT, though not defining myself as a skeptic, I am skeptical of many things. For one, religion. For two–your b.s. (edited by moderator). Oh thats what you must mean. Of course. That is why you, oddly, refer to me as a skeptic. To you a skeptic is someone who wont swallow hook line and sinker your delusional drivel. A “skeptic” to you is someone who gives very little credence to terrestrial astrology; or apparently, even more broadly, in a word, a “skeptic” to you is one who disagree with you. I see. Well thats cute.
So you piggy back off Michael’s legitimate critique of the overly-closed minded position of one who defines themselves as a skeptic, and then you try to ascribe that same waywardness to anyone who disagrees with you. But, as I recall, you in fact take it even further, stating that “being ‘skeptical’ (refraining to unquestionably believe you, by your usage) is a form of mental disease.” !!!!

So by a little deductive logic:

P1: One who doesn’t believe in you/terrestrial astrology is a “skeptic”
P2: A skeptic has a mental disease
P3: Billy Meier does not believe in terrestrial astrology

and the inevitable conclusion…

C: Billy Meier has a mental disease

Methinks not a position that is gonna make you many friends at this blog (not to mention your childish attitude which has you repeatedly insulting other peoples intelligence, repeatedly naming there good faith opinion as “completely incorrect,” and repeatedly attempting to duck challenges to your BS by claiming your challengers are too inferior to even warrant a response). Not that youre concerned with making friends though, obviously.

As an interesting thought exercise to contrast the above,

Since we are in the business of playing fast and loose with words and titles, it would make a lot more since – considering the website we are at – if we defined a “skeptic” not as someone who disagrees with you, but rather as someone who does not take MEIER at his word. But, let us retain your contribution that skeptic = mentally diseased. Then we would be left with this bit of logic:

P1: Meier speaks against terrestrially astrology, but quite highly of Obama and his goal to ensure affordable health care to all Americans

P2: Tony speaks highly of terrestrially astrology, but extremely disparagingly of Obama and the ACA

C1: Tony is a “skeptic”
C2: Tony has a mental disease.

This, methinks, is a conclusion that will sit better with most of us.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

You’re totally incorrect. You’re an idiot. I will not waste my time with you after this reply. Read my posts on the astrology thread, IF you truly would like to learn something, which I seriously doubt.

And Michael, you want me to thank him for this insulting slander, this extremely stupid behavior, you cannot be serious?

Darcy Wade Carlile

It is clear to me that Tony is emotional and not amicable to being a collaborative and law abiding individual.

Schantz

I would like to know if I agree with everything the professional asstroliar says do I get I discounted naval reading?

Sheila

Look at your naval and you will find your answer.

Michael

Here is a different view on the lost plane. Food for thought.

Andy

Tony,

For the benefit of all I have reproduced your 2014 predictions:

1. Major Earthquake Catastrophes in the following countries:

– Chile, Japan, Indonesia, Philippines, and China.

2. Weather:

– Record level rainfall and floods in the USA.
– Record breaking cold weather in USA, crops ruined in Florida, California, and other states.

3. Deaths:

– Kim Jong Un, leader of North Korea (poisoned).
– Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, England (cancer).
– Morgan Freeman, actor (heart).
– Larry King, talk show host (lungs).
– Miley Cyrus, singer (murdered)

4. The Economy:

– US economy will not improve, unemployment rises.
– Gold prices will reach $1900 – $2000 again.
– Many people will realize that Obamacare is an insurance companies scam.

5. Terrorism and War:

– Terrorist attack in Russia affects 25,000+ people.
– War between Israel/US and Iran starts

For those who are interested, here are a few more predictions for 2014.

1. Queen Elizabeth, England, dies – (Flu/Pneumonia)

2. American airliner crashes, hundreds dead, world news.

3. Powerful earthquake in Australia.

Predictions for the near future:

1. Hillary Clinton will be the next U.S. president – 2016.

2. Pope Francis will be murdered – no date.

You claim you were right about record low temps. The problem is, EVERY year there are record cold temps somewhere in the U.S. But, 2014 was a cold winter–but most of the record lows were in January, after your prediction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_2014_North_American_cold_wave#United_States

Nevertheless, in all fairness, in February (after your prediction) there was 1.75 times as many record lows than normal. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/2014/2

So I will grant that this is a hit-ish. “Ish” because of the vaugeness, and I’m not sure if 1.75 times the normal is terribly significant; had you published your prediction in Jan., before the brunt of record coldness, would have more looked like a direct hit. But, I’ll give it you.

The Economic stuff isn’t really going to fly. “Unemployment rises” is a 50-50 guess–the number is probably going to move in some measure up or down, allowing you to claim hit if it ends up a mere .1 higher… in a word, not a specific enough prediction to evidence the power of astrology (not to mention it doesn’t take an astorologer to predict that figure likely goes up this year). Price of gold fluctuates; I don’t know enough about it to say whether it would be an impressive prediction if at some point this year it indeed sells for 1900-2000. If it happens, I’m sure others will be able to speak towards that. As for this:

– Many people will realize that Obamacare is an insurance companies scam.

People may think that, doesn’t make it true. In fact, because of the way you worded it “…realize that Obamacare IS an…” I’m gonna go ahead and call it a miss. Meier, doesnt think it is a scam. And, as proven to me when my girlfriend recently need emergency surgery but could not find adequate affordable coverage given the preexisting condition, Obamacare actually proved a godsend, nothing scammy about it. This is not a unique story.

If Hillary becomes Prez, that will be a less than impressive hit; that is most everyones best guess right now. Unfortunately, that prediction really only stands to cost you (because a hit means very little, a miss…adds another miss).

But most of the above are specific enough where we will be able to clearly delineate hits or misses. (As to the “Earthquake Catastrophes” I’m going to have to take that as saying there will be significant damage, not merely a relatively harmless moderate to large shake of the coast or otherwise away from cities).

Just wanted to reproduce all the predictions here so we have em in one place. Did you the favor of leaving out the flight 370 bit.

If the hits start comin in, I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong about your work, and likely I’ll want to buy a reading. (Though I’ll still be disgusted by your pompous attitude and childlike social skills).

Good luck. We shall see…

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Michael,

You’re going to allow insults like “pompous attitude and childlike social skills”? Ok, let me say what he is – a dumb ass know-it-all know-nothing stupid skeptic.

Andy

Daddy, daddy, make the bad man stop!

I know I should just let the matter rest, its getting a little embarrassing at this point…but oh my gawd the irony. This is unreal. Just for future reference, Tony, you may want to work on a better response for the (inevitable) next time you are accused of being childlike.

Michael, I’m done, promise. Thanks for lettin us duke it out in uncensored entirety.

Corey

Brought to you by the same people who claim “chemtrails” are causing sterilization, population control, and mind control, and Jewish fianceers in London control the entire world, and the endless other conspiracy theories that will cause schizophrenia and serious paranoids delusions! Spot on! http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_035

shaban

well all i can say is “as the time fulfills” i must also say that in dec 2013 i had a dream that was uncanny to the future collapse of america. in my dream i was in 2018 and everything seemed ok apart from some people preparing weapons. then i went to the year 2023 and i saw chaos, i was in manhattan and i saw riots happening along with the police in full soldier gear but the usual police blue color and the police were saying “martial law has been declared, if you do not disperse we will use lethal force”. it was such a profound and vivid dream that i still get chills when in the city. truly i hope it was nothing more than a mere dream but with the events of today it seems to be in line with this dream.

Philip Brandel

Is interesting the dreams we have…
Your dream seems to reside in reality if we don’t wake up and listen in time. All the pieces are coming together slowly but surely.
I hope it never happens and if it does, at least not because of a global conflagration. I am 99% wanting a global war not to occur! I will be amongst the 1% that doesn’t want it, yet sees it coming possibly non the less… Is a daily thought almost, of how much I don’t want to be within it, with my brothers and sisters of the world.
See the truth yet understand the reality one resides in?
Neutral positive…
The most vivid dream I have ever had was around a decade ago. I was awaken from my bed to a loud roaring noise out side. My family and I rushed outside to see a huge rock descending onto our world. The last part of the dream I can remember before I jumped awake was the crashing of it onto the earths surface. It was such a surreal dream! I could feel the heat and sense my surroundings like no dream I have ever had. To this day it is the most intense/vivid dream I have ever had.
Sometimes I envy people who can look past all these things that make up the reality of our world. Though I suppose we must get past the really bad stuff before we can get to the really good things. Seems it is our human nature to deal with the negative, while trying to reside in the positive. I will be the first to admit that I am just an earth human… far removed from what the Plejaren would truly want for us. Yet, I am also trying slowly yet sometimes annoyingly, relentlessly.

Marellus

An actor walks upon the floodlit stage of life
wearing a mask of an angel beneath a demon’s gown.
Pretence smiles upon the crowded hall of life
holding out hope as bright as it is false.

Son of a woman in whose veins flows the blood
of ancient Ireland and dark Africa’s plains.
You are Obama, nick-named the standing king
You are Barack, oh, son born to deceive
The suffering hoards of Africa look up to you,
See a black saviour where nought but a Judas strides.

An entrapper of nations, bringer of dismal war
Behind the robes and the nylon wings of hope
Oh, may those who look upon you, see you as you are.

May those who hope in you behold you as you be
A prince deceitful to bring down Africa’s shrines
A siren who leads Africa’s ships onto rocks of obliteration.

Your rule my lord will not be one of peace
Your reign my king will not be one of smiles
Even as we speak in caves both dark and dank
Enraged fanatics plot your dark demise
They will put around your head a bloodwet martyr’s crown.

Oh black Kennedy following the one before
May God forgive thee and thy fiery spouse
As you walk in silence from the stage of life
Barack Obama, blessed son, Oh standing king

– Credo Mutwa (Zulu Shaman, written in 2009)

Prunc

Michael, what is going on in your country?