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Two more Interviews about the Billy Meier UFO Case

Two new interviews about the Billy Meier case, including the current situation regarding MUFON, are now online.

One is with Wendy Garrett and the other with Scott Teeters.

I think both hosts did a good job in knowing about the information and giving the interviews, etc.

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Darcy Wade Carlile

Nothing is impossible and I know we can change the future because we live in the everlasting present time and so as far as there is the will to advance in evolution we as a we can do anything and as a cause create an effect and stunt the genetically diseased genes, oh I truly wished this omen on Earth. The might of my thoughts.

Andy

Michael, you mentioned to Wendy you were going to be receiving a call from the MUFON director. Did it come? What’s the word?

Andy

Great, exciting, thanks.

J. Smith

Michael,

Apparently, contacts of one kind or another with space people are not new to Mr. Villa. He says that he has been taught telepathy by extraterrestrial intelligence since he was five years old. Although he did not complete the tenth grade of school, he seems to have a good knowledge on such subjects as mathematics, electricity, physics, and mechanics, and has an unusual “gift” for detecting defects in engines, generators, etc.

Doesn’t this sound familiar? His case is very similar to Meier’s minus some of the details. Have you ever heard anything about this before now?

Willard Rohm

Whelp, I feel kind of embarrassed about not listening to both interviews before I commented on your “And Did They Listen?” post, asking in regards to when the second film you were making for 2014. So I did listen to both and as of the second link with Scott you did say when it was coming out… my mistake.

Matt lee

Andy’s persistent remarks against Tony’s actions and words lately or rather for quite some time appears to me that there may be a problem which hasn’t yet been resolved and one that continues to fester here on this forum.
I don’t like to stick my nose where it doesn’t belong especially considering that I am Johnny come lately but since its out in the open in a public forum, without denigrating Tony nor Andy, this may just be one of those situations where if Michael is allowing Tony’s predictions to be aired here then his decision as a moderator/owner should be respected and let things be the way it is allowed to play out.
Just as I can be quite disparaging of people’s wrongs when and where I see it with the view that the truth should be fought for and when its justified in the eyes of what is deemed right and true it does appear that Andy is coming from the same ground on principle but at the same time by Michael allowing Tony’s predictions whether wrong or right to be posted here, he may have a deeper wisdom and reason behind it.
I am not a fence sitter but it appears that Tony in his own way as a supporter of Billy is doing some good by promoting it whether here or maybe elsewhere.
So to me at least by Tony’s posts generating certain backlash against himself whether through lack of self awareness or possibly through suffering undisclosed mental, emotional and psychological disorder it may just serve as a learning lesson in sympathy and empathy towards the plight of those with such afflictions which may have been missed by fellow members here.
Since it appears that Tony is more than capable of intellectual conversations my assessment may be way off the mark but given his persistent dismissal of other members advice I don’t doubt for a moment that maybe on this rare instance the benefit of an exceptional kind must be order of the day irrespective of how right other members views and words are.
My apologies Tony if I am in the wrong and my apologies to Andy if I came across as an apologist on this rare instance.

Duke

To summarize Matt, Tony V. the Professional Astrologer [sic] refuses to take SOLE responsibility for things he clearly claims to have professional knowledge that only he knows or to have claimed to correct. Instead, he uses the Meier material, the P’s, and Mike as a crutch quite clearly as ANY questions that are asked are simply tossed into the dustbin or referred to the Meier material directly evading largely the questions being asked of.

Andy

Nothing to apologize for Matt. I am conflicted myself about the ongoing exchanges. If Tony wasn’t so damn disrespectful and insulting to me and others, I’d probably be able to just hold my tongue.

Maybe here is some support from Meier for my continuing to engage though:

Number seven of the “ten main factors…which determine the good in the human being” reads “The human never tolerates things out of touch with reality nor also any deeds, virtuelessnesses, acts and words as well as speeches of evil, and he or she also in no wise gives themselves over to the unconcernedness.”

http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/2013/08/how-and-why-evil-begins-in-human-beings.html?view=flipcard Thanks for this Bruce

Matt Lee

Well Duke what you say makes good sense and even a monkey would understand the logical as well as hu-man-ly reason behind (and a good reason at that) what you say but without me being the fence sitting bat here if I could give an example for what I am trying to get at there was a well known tragic case in Korea whereby an intellectually and mentally handicapped man had been wrongfully incarcerated and put on death row for supposedly killing a child. Initially people missed this fact and thought that he was just being an idiot but later after so much physical and mental abused incurred by fellow inmates and prison wardens they finally realised this fact about him and the reason for his unjust incarceration.
Sad isn’t it, if only people were astute enough to realise it from the beginning.
Anyway to cut a long story short with the support and affidavit of fellow inmates and prison wards he applied for release only for a politician who was responsible for the murder of the child to threaten the mentally handicapped man that if he did so he will kill his only daughter.
So on the day in court the mentally handicapped man gave false testimony against himself in retrial and admitted that he killed the child to protect his daughter and he was summarily hanged.
The true story ended with his daughter becoming a lawyer and instigated a retrial to redeem her mentally handicapped father’s name and reputation.
She was successful and subsequent to this trial many wrongfully incarcerated inmates received retrial and released from the Korea prison system.

The moral of the story is that often times there are so many people in our midst in everyday life who act contrary to good sense and what is deemed proper by normal standards.
Sometimes you want to punch them in the face for being so annoying but when it really gets down to it, with a little empathy, love, sympathy and understanding you can get inside their heads and put the contextual and situational pieces of the jigsaw puzzle to realise there is actually more to it than meets the eyes as always.

So I put to you this question without being apologetic to the wrongs nor being on the side of the wrongs I think that Tony has socially committed in my opinion where most including Michael would also agree ‘Even if Tony has committed the social taboo and the golden rule of social exchange, in the grand scheme of things, could the (maybe) damage done by his predictions be overblown along with his persistent rude dismissal of just about everyone here who disagrees and questions the legitimacy of his astrology to warrant a continued disparaging but justified responses from you, Andy or others when that response in the long run is rather non effective and may have the opposite effect?
Yes we must guard against lies, falsifications and twisting of the truth especially Billy’s information but I haven’t seen any evidence of Tony doing this as far as I have back read the threads here only that he has presented his own truth (whether right or wrong) regarding astrology.
On top of this to put his so called transgressions into perspective compared to others like Randy Winters, George Green, Barbra Han Clow, Fred Bell, the Shubach (I can’t spell his name) brothers and so on, how bad is it?
And one more thing if the truth be told that indeed Tony is suffering from some type of mental, intellectual and psychological disorder which is the basis of his rude dismissal of other members here then could you fellow members live with that understanding and extend towards him that special empathy driven understanding to just ignore him and his so called predictions rather than get in a head knot over it and since Michael is continuing to allow it when he blatantly told Tony he will not which is continuing the fuel the responses then maybe you fellas should ask what Michael’s reasoning is.

Andy

Michael, I don’t know if you realize some of his death predictions are posted here. Maybe you were talking about other predictions in addition to those.

In any case, fortunately, our good friend Miley Cyrus and others are still alive and twerking.

Andy

I can’t find the original, you may well have got rid of it. But I reproduced the predictions here

https://theyflyblog.com/stronger-leader/03/19/2014

third page of comments.

Matt lee

Sorry Michael navigating through countless posts in the labyrinth of threads made it difficult to find your exact quote and you did say many many things so it would be a herculian task for you to remember everything you said but if your memory serves you correct I think you told Tony in no uncertain terms that you will no longer be posting his predictions until at such time that some of his claims either comes to pass or not at a certain given date.
This was what I was referring to
And I thought I saw some newly given prediction by Tony
So I thought that maybe you had a change of heart
Gee I do appreciate being able to post here at your expense or rather your generosity seeing how much effort would go into maintaining it especially being a one man effort.

Duke

Hi Matt.

My questions to Tony V. Professional Astrologer never proceeded beyond that. Thanks for your input. I appreciate it.

Would you like me to email you?

Thanks!

Matt lee

Duke drop me a line if you feel the need and I am sure there will be occasions in the future whereby we may have to respectfully move our conversation to private.

Cheers

Newinitiation@yahoo.com

Matt Lee

Yeah Andy I fully understand where you are coming from and I really have nothing against your actions either but having gone through the previous threads there is definitely a pattern that seems to emerge from the exchange in that no matter how right and good the advice is, if a person is not willing to extend their open minds, hearts, egos and spiritual intellect to be influenced and to be ready to learn then no amount of truth in the world will actually penetrate that heavily built up force field of stubbornness.

I mean I realise what has to be said has been amply said in all these hundreds of pages littered with sensible responses against Tony’s actions here but you do realise what I am getting at here don’t you that even if truth has to be fought for the good fight is elsewhere and that this so called battle which wasn’t even about winning to begin with is something that from now on only Tony has to deal with within his own interior world of thoughts, feelings and actions even though its played out in an open forum like this that involved all participants here.

I don’t know if I am making sense.

so what I am suggesting is would ignoring Tony in the same way that he is ignoring others be the right approach rather than further fueling the fire of ‘getting nowhere exchanges’?

And with the benefit of doubt when he does decide to turn around and show some positive signs, people then engage?

What do you think Andy?

Andy

I think you’re probably exactly right Matt. Thanks. And, on top of getting nowhere, like I’ve said before, its likely something of a distraction to Michael’s good work here.

But I’m still working on self-control — how well I can hold my tongue will be another question. I think I’ll have a renewed effort at trying though.

Regards.

AquarianAge

Hi Mike,
Just pointing out that your interview hypertext links are dead !!! At least from were I am in Switzerland they are !
By the way, Keep up the good work.