We’ve got another show up online. This show encourages us to get up and answer the door when truth comes-a-knocking on  it.

You can expect a few digs at Prof. Paul Davies, SETI, Seth Shostak and Prof. Lawrence Krauss, ASU, Stuart Robbins,  etc. – those who seemingly have done everything they can…to plug their ears and close their eyes.

UPDATE

I want to put this on the front page of this blog because it truly goes to the heart of the matter. Here is a question from one of the blog participants…and my response:

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ: So you think it would be prudent for these professionals, who are likely raising families with responsibilities, to risk professional suicide for Billy?

MH: This is where people need, or certainly have the great opportunity, to…TRUST LIFE. And to trust the truth and how it also works.

Like many other truly important things in life, the answer is simple, if not often easy. Do the right thing, the best thing, the thing that aligns with higher purpose.

We know from the spiritual teaching that the positive not only brings positive results, it also brings an element of the negative to stimulate, to challenge, to act as the grain of sand in the ouster, to propel us onward and upward evocatively.

So yes, a real scientist, a true seeker of truth takes the “risk” not for Billy but for the truth.

Remember, the truth doesn’t take prisoners, it sets them free.

Oh yeah, the latest visitor to www.theyfly.com, was from Cambodia, representing the 126th country since we put up our flag counter on December 3, 2014.

60 comments on “The Great “Scientific” Masquerade

  • Salome Michael,

    Nice…… a common problem amongst scientists and science is when the results go against the wanted result from the bosses, deans, scientific or educational institutes or the CEOs of the companies, etc….they cannot afford to loose their jobs and the possibility of getting the financial budgets for new projects…. Also the money givers have often whole other goals than the scientists themselves, who just want to produce scientific advancement out of ideological goals and out of honest thinking but who are at the same time dependent on their foreordinates….. there are also good scientists out there…. 😉

    If one is not a scientist, one may compare the picture of the horsehead nebula taken by Billy in the great spacer and compare it to a picture made out of our terrestrial telescopes and then argues that the Horse Head Nebula taken from the same distance is the same as Billy took….. :-/ Unfortunately they forget that telescopes are used to actually ZOOM in, so to be in order to see the object closer than it is in reality away from our earth….. because it is a difference if you take a picture of the HH Nebula from earth with a regular camera, than to look through a real telescope that can magnify a star by 100 to 300 times and even much more, which is done by real big optical telescopes…. so with a good and big enough telescope it is easy to zoom in to a theoretical distance of 200 LY of the HH Nebula…… and they have even closer pictures of the HH Nebula…… At least Billy did not take it with a big telescope, because I did see no big telescope in Schmidrüti…. So either it is a fake stolen from one of our astronomers by Billy in 1975 and then published and republished in 2001, or Billy was really at a distance of 200 LY of the object….. also bad if the picture googled is older than the picture published in the CR’s……. so maybe “they” stole and backdated our dear Billy’s picture, or they simply zoomed in…… 😉

    This was just to give an example…. you know the thing with the pearls…. 😉

    Lets have an eye on ukraine, russia, china, US, Lebanon and the EU 😉 it will become interesting….

    Salome

    • Nicolas, my compliments on your reasoning and logic, BRAVO and Thank you.

      Also, Michael, no time currently to watch the latest show but I am looking forward to it later.

      Peace and harmony, Mike B.

    • Hi Nicolas,

      From the distances mentioned in the contact report (200 ly from the Horsehead Nebula and 1,810 ly from Earth) we can deduce the position of the great spacer was on the other side of the HHN, since it is about 1,600 ly from Earth. If one would take a picture from the HHN from there the background stars would be completely different than seen from Earth. But even if he was at 200 ly from the Nebula and looking to the HHN in the same direction as from Earth, the big star on the left side of the picture should not be on the picture. This star (Alnitak) is roughly 900 years from Earth, so it should have been behind the position from which the picture was taken.

      Yet, the background stars are the same as seen from Earth and Alnitak is also on the picture so there’s no doubt about it this picture is taken from Earth, or at least close to Earth. Regardless of the reason why it is in Meier’s collection.

      • Hi Simon,

        ….. nowhere in the CR it is said they were on the other side oft he nebula seen from earth…. Why do people always think that the stars in the sky and the galaxies are static? …. They are not hanging there, like a light hanging down a roof of a house, but they are actually moving with an approximate speed of 74 km/s, because the universe is expanding…… So the earth astronomers calculated that the distance from the nebula must be around 1600 LY,…. Well earlier sources say it is at 1400 Y and others again say it is at a distance of 1500 LY…. ???? So how the hell can we REALLY know that the nebula and also the star Alnitak really are at the distances written in the internet? – Considering the expansion of the universe and our error bars, which resutl because of our calculation errors and also because of our scientific devices, the nebula could well be at a farer distance then we think it is….. Anyway I find KK analysis childish….. this also a clever high school student could have done….. 🙂

        Please don`t misunderstand me, it still could be a fake smuggeled in the CR´s by antagonists of Billy and the mission. I know personally through what lengths the enemies of Billy will/would go to hide and falsify the truth…… The pictures alone don´t prove or disprove that the case is real…. It is the overall picture which proves that the case is true and real…. Billy and the Plejaren are no gods and not everything works out like it was planned at the beginning, thousands of years ago because of the free will of the human beings….… that´s REAL life… 😉

        Salome

        • The two words that the skeptics and critics seem to have no actually, shoulder rubbing familiarity with…REAL LIFE. Thanks Nicolas.

        • “…but they are actually moving with an approximate speed of 74 km/s, because the universe is expanding”

          You’re not very much into astronomy at all, are you? I’m not an astronomer either but my goodness… you really think that the relative speed of objects within a galaxy has got anything to do with the expansion of the universe???

          I think I better rest my case…

        • The view of that region we see from Earth now is around 1400 to 1600 years old. Billy will have shaved around 1200 to 1400 years off that, so the positions of everything will have changed as you say Nicolas. Indeed we don’t know how the great spacer was positioned (lined up?). They might have traveled ~1300 years back in time for all we know to give Billy his ‘photographic opportunity.’ We know how they like to make pictures interesting for us, don’t we.

          • Hi Simon,

            …. it is true that I am no expert in astronomy, but I am willing to learn also in this field 🙂 …… but I know that I should not blindely believe every scientific discovery and every values publicized in scientific papers or the internet, because every scientific value has an error bar and my guess is that if we look at the huge distances of the universe the error bar can easily be a few billion km, or even a few light years,…… but thats ok…. we all can learn from this 😉

        • Hi Nicolas,

          Ok then, then I will revive my case once more :-D. Of course there are errors in scientific values, but in order for Meier to have been at 200 ly from the HHN and 1,810 ly from Earth and still looking at the same direction to the HHN as from Earth the HHN should be at about 2,000 ly from Earth, instead of 1,600. That’s a huge error of 25% and the probability of such an enormous error is very small. Also the distance of Alnitak should be very close to the distance of HHN in order for it to appear in a picture taken from 200 ly from the HHN. Also consider the unlikelihood of Meier looking to the HHN in exactly the same direction as from Earth.

          It’s of course true the stars are constantly in motion, but the Galaxy is huge and it takes a very long time to notice any significant differences, much longer then a human life time. Also, the motion of the stars within the galaxy have got nothing to do with the expansion of the universe, whose effects regarding positions etc. are only significant on a much larger scale.

          So my ‘case’ is that it extremely unlikely that Meier’s picture is anything else then an Earth based picture. Why it is in his collection, I don’t know, but Wendelle Stevens wrote this on page 338 of Message from the Pleiades 1:

          (…) The disappointment was crushing, and Meier forced to resort to collecting other images to illustrate what he was trying to describe to others, including observatory pictures of some of the stellar wonders. Some of these became mounted in the picture album by his friends, and eventually became confused by others as the pictures from the trip. In fact that was what we were told once by somebody there also, which we knew was not true, because those observatory views are only possible from the point in space occupied by the Earth, and through special hydrogen and other filters not available for small cameras. Eduard Meier has never told us that those pictures were taken on that extended trip.

          • Simon,

            Since you – partially – quote Wendelle Stevens, then it would seem that you’re acknowledging that Meier had many challenges, intrigues around him, missing original photos, etc.

            The discussion is a valid one but for those who know, through their own efforts, that the Meier case is authentic, the question may be asked why they only seem to appear to criticize and even attack the case, instead of contributing something more positive to the discussion?

          • Hi Simon,

            Thank you…. now then only the possibility of time travel remains as Stephen said, which could also be a possibility, thanks for that interesting thought 🙂

            Either way, the Plejaren or FIGU don’t want to convince you or anybody, but they want us to find reality by ourselves, or lets say, they want to give us the possibility to come as close to reality as possible by our own… There would be possibilities to all convince you on the spot…. but then for sure a new religion would result from it… which we want absolutely to avoid this time!!!

            But it would be good that reason and common sense, the good ethical values and the fact of reincarnation would come to the peoples mind…. it would make life on earth a whole lot easier… 😉

            We should not be so megallomaniac and think we can tell whats correct and wrong by only analysing a few pictures when there are thousands of pages to read and think about…

            Salome

          • “Also, the motion of the stars within the galaxy have got nothing to do with the expansion of the universe, whose effects regarding positions etc. are only significant on a much larger scale.”

            They may not be the cause of the initial expansion but they are definitely a byproduct of the expansion and the cooling of the universe which in turn will have an effect on the expansion and the contraction. To say they have “NOTHING” to do with the expansion is just plain wrong and inaccurate and very naive because at what point of the universes creation are you talking about? You can’t compare the initial creation to today because the transfer of energy within the universe is at a totally different stage. The transfer of distributed energy to mass will eventually cause the universe expansion to slow and eventually lead to its contraction. Hence.. it has an effect.

          • Hi Nicolas,

            Time travel isn’t a plausible explanation at all. For example: why would Alnitak have been much closer to HHN in the past, so the picture would look exactly like a picture taken from Earth now? You talked about scientist not willing to accept results that go against the wanted results, yet, you are cooking up the most far fetched and impossible explanations to explain how this picture could be taken by Meier in space. Aren’t you obviously working towards a wanted result too, instead of just accepting the (by far) most likely explanation that this picture is simply Earth based? It has got confirmation bias written all over it. This is unnecessary; as you implied, the conclusion that this picture is Earth based is only about this picture, you can’t base a conclusion about the whole Meier case on one picture. So why not just accept the picture for what it really is?

            @Mark
            What I mean is that the effect of the expansion of the universe is practically insignificant for the movements of the objects in a galaxy relative to each other. These movements are governed by gravity. We don’t see the objects in the galaxy move away from each other because of the expansion of the universe, like we see galaxies move away from each other.

  • “You can expect a few digs at Prof. Paul Davies, SETI, Seth Shostak and Prof.Lawrence Krauss, ASU,Stuart Robbins, etc. – those who seemingly have done everything they can…to plug their ears and close their eyes.”

    They are supposed to be some of our smartest people, they wouldn’t do that would they?

      • MH,

        Here is another way of looking at it. What if these same ‘experts’ are not really religious and look to science, or natural laws with their degrees and professions. And these same people are pacifists and want world peace and cooperation. These same people have less than three children per marriage; because they made smart social economic choices by raising what they could afford. These same experts and scientists probably are open minded to life elsewhere in the universe. They are concerned about climate change and environmental pollution. They just don’t like Billy.

        In my opinion the real reason these ‘smart’ people don’t see value or recognize Meier is because it is NOT FASHIONABLE. It caries way too much baggage with controversial subjects that quite frankly UPSET people; nobody who needs to make money to support a family, house, car, kids, life, etc. can take a professional risk of losing their livelihood by supporting a controversial UFO case that they DO NOT KNOW TO be true themselves. And as a UFO case in ufology, it is beyond dorky, with the strange looking wedding cake ships and the guy with the long beard that must have faked this because he is some hillbilly in the woods. Yet this guy want you to think he is the reincarnation of the one falsely accused of as Jesus Christ.

        Anybody who sees value in the Meier case gets there by really taking the time, YEARS, to look at the evidence, the written information and the circumstances; PLUS they have to be willing to take an honest look at themselves and an honest look at humanity, and this is a sacrifice for people who just want to be part of the system. Most have to pretend that life is about going to a good school, getting a high paying job, marrying the trophy spouse, having the perfect children, living the good life… because they don’t want to live in material poverty. And then become an outcast nerd, like the rest of the wizards on this blog. And we are small in numbers compared to the numbers that make up the mainstream UFOCI. AND if they want to shift their professional businesses to now support Billy Meier, they become second fiddle to the great Michael Horn official media rep for the Billy Meier case…. who has already cornered the US market with his TheyFly foothold and may have an exclusive with Billy. Perhaps no to meager business for them… period. The Billy Meier case is bad for business and that is what matters to them. They are not willing to give up their phony careers and do something in line with the Meier case like the good people who come to this blog.

          • So you think it would be prudent for these professionals, who are likely raising families with responsibilities, to risk professional suicide for Billy?

          • This is where people need, or certainly have the great opportunity, to…TRUST LIFE. And to trust the truth and how it also works.

            Like many other truly important things in life, the answer is simple, if not often easy. Do the right thing, the best thing, the thing that aligns with higher purpose.

            We know from the spiritual teaching that the positive not only brings positive results, it also brings an element of the negative to stimulate, to challenge, to act as the grain of sand in the ouster, to propel us onward and upward evocatively.

            So yes, a real scientist, a true seeker of truth takes the “risk” not for Billy but for the truth.

            Remember, the truth doesn’t take prisoners, it sets them free.

          • Michael,

            These ‘smart’ people don’t KNOW this is the truth. NO ONE knows for sure that this is real, except Billy. As I said before, it takes years for the normal individual to study and scrutinize the case before he/she can know for themselves that this is real. And even these people don’t know 100% for sure.

            It is irresponsible and cruel to force the Meier case on individuals who do not want it. And in most cases these educated people are more in line with Creation than the masses. As I tried to point out before, these same educated people are not necessarily religious, they are not necessarily contributing to overpopulation, they are typically concerned about the environment, climate change and contamination. These people are likely peaceful and do not support war and warmongering. Are you starting to see similarity here between these people and the goals of the Figu?

            The ONLY thing missing is some old guy with a long beard who took pictures and writes down teachings. At the end of the day, is it really important that these people help preserve the planet, get off religion, and promote peace OR that they raise their hand for some prophet?

            It’s the content and practice MUCH more than it is the messenger. For all you know, these same people may be more advanced than you in some areas.

          • It’s no more “irresponsible and cruel” “forcing” scientists (who claim to be experts in these fields) to present the Meier material to them, than it certainly was for…Galileo to try to “force” the Church to look through the telescope.

            If they don’t like the heat let them get out of the kitchen but I don’t think they’d willingly give up their paychecks just to know…the truth.

          • Michael,

            Even back then, the people who refused to look into the telescope were left behind; but the world caught up eventually. The Billy Meier Mission will work out, regardless how many people don’t see value today. Notice Billy just smiles and laughs from his chair in his office.

            I am all for building or just inviting people to look through the telescope. Please, let’s do a B & N invite. But that is where this should end. And besides, the more you chase someone, the more that person wants to run away from you. Only when you stop, and allow a person to find you, does that person seek you out.

          • Anthony,

            I don’t know about hard and fast rules for…everyone. I do know that many people have come to the Meier material in many different ways.

            It’s no longer just about UFO photos of course. We see the world fulfilling the prophecies every day and let’s…allow some people to respond to invitations, notices, etc., as they see fit. If we don’t reach out at a time when humanity would benefit from the involvement and participation of a few “leaders”, then the opportunity may be missed. Please also keep in mind that it isn’t only the person whose name is on the invite that may see it…and decide to look into it for themselves.

            So allow me my way of doing things and you and everyone else are free to craft yours.

            Yes, I’ll be inviting them to the presentation again at Barnes & Noble in March, since they invited me to do another one. And I’ll extend that invite to my appearances at MUFON in February and N. CA in late March too.

          • “So allow me my way of doing things and you and everyone else are free to craft yours.”

            Absolutely. Please Michael, I’m on your side. Obviously you are doing a valuable job for the Mission. I only offer my opinion as an alternative. I even assume Billy agrees with your “honey badgering?” I just don’t always agree with the way you folks do things.

        • All i can say with Absolute “Certainty” .is that it IS truth . From what I have seen personally (with another person) .with “known” impulse messages. Steered my life in a new direction “towards the truth” from 1980’s . i have NO way ANY of the experiences Billy has ..not even a hair on your head ……….. But what we experienced /saw / felt Its how it got me here today ! We were stopped on the road by a craft . I wont go into details here though. message me privately if you want to know more .I dont feel like typing 4 pages here.

  • Well done ! Well food for thought . There is a government program called ‘operation blue beam ‘ . It tells of how the government is holding out on the alien truth . A saying by a high profile government member as quoted ‘ never let a crisis go to waste ‘ comes into play here . The government apparently is holding on to acknowledging this truth in order to some day use it . Crazy as this sounds . The Project talks of how in order to attain a one world governing body as a last resort they would pull a ‘stunt ‘ for the whole world to digest that would be a last ditch effort to do so . I know it does sound as far outlandish as it can probably get . It does however make sense in the way so many people are hush hush . Its almost as if their lives depended on it . Aside from the cash cow that the whole thing provides . I just got done writing to the wife of ‘the’ man that designed all the governments security systems since the dawn of the computer age . He himself passed and did an interview to be released after his death . That told me that this blue beam thing may in fact be true . It turns out sometimes with the government that the most ridiculous sounding things turn out to be true . Like some of the NSA stories and Program Carnivire where in the whole Microsoft platform provided a back door into everybodys computer . Or they can spy on us through our dishwasher . In fact turned out to be true . They can spy on us now through our tv and lightbulbs . So its not that far out their when you get down to it . Someone once said the technology that is surpressed at the moment is 400 years ahead of where we think . Just something to chew on .

  • One conspiracy but theory says the government(s) will use their secret flying craft to launch a faked invasion of Earth. This ruse is supposed to give good reason for the militarization of space. Werner vonBraun is said to have tried to warn earthlings of a plan to militarize space. But no worries. It looks like we won’t be leaving the Sol system anytime soon. We’ll only continue to be a real and present danger to ourselves.
    An interesting sidebar: I understand we have military boots on the ground advisors in Kiev now. I wonder what could be so fascinating to us (OIL& GAS) in Ukraine. We are for sure bat-shit crazy.

    • Paul, Don`t forget the Keystone XL Pipeline which the Republican congress is trying to push through too and the Citizen United Koch Brothers and their minons etc. I call the “The Dirty Dozen Gang”.:) OH, remember Ragen`s Star Wars wepons in sace dud too? The military will just get away with anything they can get their hands on,think about it.

  • Another little food for thought is today we have a ridiculous influx of fame seekers . Its like a group of people that think ‘they’ should have cameras following them around . I noticed some time ago last year that the scientists are getting pissed off . Primarily because the climate change battle is discrediting and schmearing the line between honest science and sinister manipulation , not unlike GMO foods that in some cases are harmful . So the alien issue is a major opportunity for a frustrated scientist to just tell the truth . They would stand alone . So be it , but it is right there in the open for all to see and nobody , and I mean nobody will touch it . As a side note the man I mentioned that designed the entire governmental security system was a good friend of Dave Hodges from ‘The common sense show’ a net news outlet . And I wrote Dave and got a shrug . He said I do not know . And I think Michael got banned from his site . So these things are very sensitive and people are scared of things . Steve Quayle has a web media outlet , although it has too much religious connotations involved , and he actually tracks ‘Dead Scientists’ the suicides and bogus life ending events even some journalists lately . The web site half past human by Cliff High is one that monitors web activity and it creates popular trends in communications . Its remarkably accurate at times , its no one person making predictions , just a robot that digests all the web info via a web crawler and spits out the data . Funny how the man who invented this type of program and monitoring was killed and the other man who improved upon it next still works for the government . Cliff is the alive because its no longer a few people doing this . Their are many . To summarize I have to preface this last morsel because , I do not like or believe in religion . I totally embrace the knowledge I was so lucky to have found from Billy . It appears that Satin is becoming pretty involved in what is to come down amidst all the coming world turmoil . I guess the devil , evil , whatever . Its popping up a lot . One thing I do know is that we collectively as people are able to influence things with the way we think . Stay positive people we do make a difference . I see it every day in the things I have influenced and others as well . But I have a feeling that because of the Christian religion and the book of Revelations written by John the Baptist is so embrace by the religious that in fact they are influencing current world events in a negative way . To me the book is so interesting , because I grew up embracing philosophy and and before I was a teenager had the pope and the dali lama visit my town . So I scoured the world for never ending knowledge . So to me the Bible is a very interesting . Just a study in humans for me . But Billys work surpassed my expectations in a way that I never thought was possible , and to think a high profile scientist will not touch it is absolutely insane !

  • I read my post after it was sent and realized I was not clear in my intent ; ) I was mearly stating that scientists are mad at people with no talent or smarts are getting the spotlight while they are brilliant and ignored . Hey Bill Nye the science guy a charicature of science gets more press then they do or ‘I’ do . I meaning a scientist being jealous and slamming down his book in a heated thought .

  • Boom! Michael Horn, bluff caller extraordinaire! Great show.

    I’m struggling with materialism. For tax purposes, my parents gifted me money for a nice (er) car. So the Ausartung figure on one shoulder wants me to get a 2006 BMW M5 with a V10 engine, and the Neutral-Positive-Ausgeglichen figure on my other shoulder wants me to get a 2011 Chevy Volt, which would allow me to commute to work entirely on battery power. Then there’s my job, which I recently landed thanks to reading Might of the Thoughts, but unfortunately it’s for a superficial materialistic unnecessary product, that being selling Audis. I feel like I’m betraying the Creational natural laws by working there.
    What I really want to do is quit and visit FIGU while Billy is still alive. Travel the world on foot, (except through the desert without water), work odd jobs, live simply. Learn farming and construction, build a self sustaining home. Chop wood and carry water. Oh, that reminds me, this guy built his own off the grid house: http://youtu.be/yK0063suuyU
    And he’s American! Yes, there are good Americans who care- I found one!
    Basically I want to live like the Plejaran. Or live in the Swiss Alps. Ah, a wishful dream… I’m almost done reading The Psyche…

    • Here is a suggestion. Scrap the expensive vehicles. Go buy some fuel efficient, well maintained, older car for a couple thousand dollars. Save your money from your materialistic job. Live on just the basics for several years; save as much money as you can. And then walk away from the bullshit. Then “Travel the world on foot…work odd jobs, live simply. Learn farming and construction, build a self sustaining home. Chop wood and carry water.”

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