The Cynical Fraud that Is SETI

The ongoing, deliberate cover-up and concealment of the Billy Meier UFO case keeps SETI in business

“If some day we receive an information-rich signal from another star, no one expects it to be written in English, Chinese, or Swahili. Instead, researchers engaged in the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) often suggest that mutual comprehension will come through the language of math.”

Thus spoke SETI’s resident prophet, Douglas Vakoch, who in the most unscientific of terms confidently declared how an extraterrestrial race would make contact with us, while also leaving out German, the actual language in which the Billy Meier contacts have been conducted for the past 73 ½ years. Vakoch’s prognostication has also proved to be further incorrect because thousands of pages of the information have already been translated into English and other languages.

Why do clueless people like Vakoch presume to speak for extraterrestrials – who already made it clear that they chose not to communicate with him – or is that rhetorical?

Jill Tarter, Vakoch and Seth Shostak (who’s apparently very busy…at cocktail parties) are quite aware of the inconvenient reality of Billy Meier contacts with the Plejaren extraterrestrials. In order to avoid drawing any attention to it – which would put them out of business – they don’t even dare to publicly call the case a hoax. In their so-called “Search for Extra-Terrestrial” Intelligence they’re like the hierarchy at MUFON, who also avoid the Meier caseand collect their salaries for not finding what they say they’re looking for.

Jill Tarter even said, “I wish that TED would empower Earthlings everywhere to become active participants in the search for cosmic company.” So how can one not regard SETI as a fraud when they call for assistance from the public…and then refuse to look at, or acknowledge that they have, it?

It’s the Salaries Stupid

It’s nice to know that the salaries at SETI “…are competitive with comparable work environments in the Bay Area.” – considering how much money this organization tales in. But it doesn’t cost anything to look through the proverbial telescope. Maybe they forgot that not so very long ago they were students who were being taught to be scientists, to suspend prejudices and preconceptions, to test claims and evidence using the scientific method, logic and reason in pursuit of…the truth.

Did Shostak, Tarter, Vakoch, etc., simply keep the Meier case from the rest of SETI over all these many years? How do their fellow scientists feel about being part of this farce, the cover-up and concealment of the Meier case?

Granted, this may be an ego buster for those nice folks listed below* who, somehow, seem to have been kept out of the loop on the most important discovery in all of science and human history, one that their organization is supposedly dedicated to discovering…as millions of people worldwide already have.

Regarding Vakoch’s question, “What would you say to an extraterrestrial?”, the answer from anyone who’s studied the Meier material might be, “Thank you for coming here and caring enough to try to assist us to assure our own future survival, despite our belligerence, arrogance and suicidal stupidity.”

The odds that any of these people – including those at the equally pointless NExSS – will rise to the occasion is very low, simply because their first considerations appear to be their funding, tenure, so-called reputations, etc.

When know-nothing “scientists” (science fiction writers) decide just how an extraterrestrial race will contact us, it only shows that they’re deliberately ignorant of the Billy Meier contacts…and more interested in perpetuating their careers.

It also shows how people are easily fooled when they put their faith and trust in outside authorities and don’t do their thinking for themselves.

The Billy Meier UFO case is what the cover-up is really about. And SETI is complicit in that cover-up.

Asteroid Apophis

It is no different of course in regards to the danger posed by asteroid Apophis. As we pointed out before, despite the feel good fanfare and promotional fervor over movies and T-shirts having died down…Apophis is still coming.

Having failed to elicit even one response from any of those parties, scientists included, we are left to consider what Meier said, on May 27, 2015, about the likelihood scientists coming together to do something about this very real threat.

Let’s hope that real intellectual honesty, scientific curiosity and the search for truth can be revived at SETI, which otherwise seems to be a very badly misnamed enterprise, to say the very least.

(For more information from the Meier contacts on outer space related topics click here.)

Please see today’s video here!

See also:

NASA Engineer: The Billy Meier UFO Case Is Real

The Great “Scientific” Masquerade

Concealing Contact at all Costs

Apophis: Let’s Try This Again

NASA’s “New” Mars Report Published by Billy Meier DECADES Ago

* SETI personnel…do they really not know about the Billy Meier Contacts? Feel free to ask them, that’s what they’re paid for:

mbarsony@seti.org

dvakoch@seti.org

rbeyer@seti.org

azalucha@seti.org

french@seti.org

jbishop@seti.org

cphillips@seti.org

mary.n.parenteau@nasa.gov

edevore@seti.org

abrown@seti.org

gertem@seti.org

quinn@seti.org

nathalie.a.cabrol@nasa.gov

kim_lamma@yahoo.com

psobron@seti.org

rquinn@seti.org

dcaldwell@seti.org

smullally@seti.org

jeffrey.c.smith-1@nasa.gov

jeffrey.l.coughlin@nasa.gov

jchiar@seti.org

sdlord2007@gmail.com

xinchuan@hotmail.com

dhollenbach@seti.org

acotera@seti.org

ptenenbaum@seti.org

mcuk@seti.org

rfrench@seti.org

gennaro.dangelo@nasa.gov

cdalleore@seti.org

aweber@seti.org

dsummers@seti.org

adavila@seti.org

azalucha@seti.org

mary.n.parenteau@nasa.gov

cphillips@seti.org

destelle@seti.org

edevore@seti.org

pharman@seti.org

fdrake@seti.org

pkalas@seti.org

fmarchis@seti.org

Petrus.M.Jenniskens@nasa.gov

Paul.R.Estrada@nasa.gov

lfenton@carlsagancenter.org

rfreedman@seti.org

ffreund@seti.org

aricca@seti.org

aweber@seti.org

dsummers@seti.org

ugorti@seti.org

fmarchis@seti.org

egrin@seti.org

vgulick@seti.org

gharp@seti.org

dhinson@seti.org

Xinchuan.Huang-1@nasa.gov

himanake@seti.org

pkalas@seti.org

hkagawa@seti.org

ckempes@seti.org

michael.d.kubo@nasa.gov

plee@seti.org

ltornabe@uwo.ca

slord@seti.org

jtarter@seti.org

mrace@seti.org

jmarshall@seti.org

rmorris@seti.org

jeffrey.l.coughlin@nasa.gov

oana.marcu@nasa.gov

spilorz@seti.org

equintana@seti.org

krages@seti.org

jut.wynne@nau.edu

 

 

201 Replies to “The Cynical Fraud that Is SETI”

  1. So, I just sent the following message to everyone on the list, including their contact page for good measure. BTW, MH you missed one: seth@seti.org 😉

    = = =

    SUBJECT: Is SETI a “cynical fraud”?

    According to extraterrestrial contactee, “Billy” Eduard Albert Meier’s U.S. representative, the answer is yes:

    https://theyflyblog.com/2015/08/10/the-cynical-fraud-that-is-seti/

    In order to answer this question objectively it would be prudent to accurately define each individual element of this question, then apply specific examples which either support or refute Michael Horn’s answer: Yes, SETI is a cynical fraud.

    = TERMINOLOGY =

    According to a Google search:

    “cynical”

    adjective
    1. believing that people are motivated by self-interest; distrustful of human sincerity or integrity.
    2. concerned only with one’s own interests and typically disregarding accepted or appropriate standards in order to achieve them.

    “fraud”

    noun
    1. wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

    “SETI”

    The search for extraterrestrial intelligence.

    “SETI Institute”

    http://www.seti.org/about-us

    “Our mission is to explore, understand, and explain the origin and nature of life in the universe, and to apply the knowledge gained to inspire and guide present and future generations. We have a passion for discovery, and for sharing knowledge as scientific ambassadors to the public, the press, and the government.

    The SETI Institute is a private, nonprofit organization dedicated to scientific research, education and public outreach.”

    “credible”

    adjective
    1. able to be believed; convincing.

    = CREDIBLE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE =

    In order to place the original claim into context with respect to extraterrestrial contacts, SETI’s official position on the UFO phenomenon must be taken into consideration:

    – – –

    http://www.seti.org/faq

    “Is someone hiding aliens?

    We don’t think so. One-third of the American public (and a similar fraction of the citizenry in other countries) is convinced that extraterrestrials may be buzzing the countryside in their spacecraft, or occasionally alighting in the back yard to abduct a few humans for breeding experiments.

    This would be of enormous interest and importance, and (in our opinion) impossible to hide, particularly if it’s happening internationally. The presence of aliens on our planet is not something you would want to hide: it would be the biggest science story of all time, and tens of thousands of university researchers would be working away on it.

    However, despite the popularity of aliens in both movies and TV, and more than a half-century of UFO sightings, the lack of credible physical evidence has made it difficult for serious scientists to believe that UFOs have anything to do with extraterrestrial visitors. Note that witness testimony, which is much ballyhooed in the media, has little horsepower when it comes to moving scientists.”

    – – –

    Considering the fact that SETI is dedicated to the “search for extraterrestrial intelligence”, it is critical to outline, in no uncertain terms what exactly qualifies as “credible physical evidence”. Unless specific criteria or process is provided, “credible” is nothing more than a subjective term and leaves this area of scientific research open to bias and speculation. This is entirely UNscientific and inconsistent with SETI’s stated mission: A dedication to scientific research.

    I have personally attempted to clarify SETI’s definition of “credible” with respect to physical evidence supporting claims of contact with extraterrestrial intelligence:

    – – –

    “I’m hoping to be directed to the person most familiar with SETI’s protocols with respect to validating claims of contact with extraterrestrial intelligence. Specifically, I’m curious to know the exact process involved in SETI’s methods to determine what is or is not what SETI considers to be, ‘credible physical evidence’.”

    and

    “Once again I’d like to ask what is the exact process involved in SETI’s methods to determine what is or is not what SETI considers to be, ‘credible physical evidence’. In short, how does SETI define, ‘credible’ with respect to the UFO phenomenon?”

    – – –

    For purposes of redundancy, both messages were sent via SETI’s contact page

    http://www.seti.org/contact

    as well as

    info@seti.org

    Each message was sent using my full name. The contact page generated a verification both times. No non-delivery notifications were ever received(spam folder was checked). I believe I can be reasonably certain my request for this clarification has been ignored. The question then becomes WHY has it been ignored. It would appear to support Mr. Horn’s assertion of organizational cynicism.

    In addition, Mr. Horn specifically answered Dr. Jill Tarter’s call for the public, “to become active participants in the search for cosmic company” by sending her Mr. Meier’s evidence:

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/seti-sent-evidence-of-et-contact-by-they-fly-productions-300077115.html?tc=eml_cleartime

    My understanding is that no response was ever offered. This would appear to add support for the claim of organizational cynicism.

    When confronted with the Meier case, the senior director of Center for SETI Research similarly dismissed it:

    – – –

    https://theyflyblog.com/2015/08/10/the-cynical-fraud-that-is-seti/comment-page-4/#comment-158812

    “Dear Robert,

    Thanks for the email. The SETI Institute doesn’t investigate UFO phenomena — it’s not our field of research. I might also note that the majority of people that I’ve talked to consider the Meier evidence to be faked. Certainly looks that way to me. And there’s an important point to be noted: We’ve learned nothing from it.

    Cheers,
    Seth Shostak

    Dr. Seth Shostak
    Senior Astronomer and Director of the Center for SETI Research
    SETI Institute
    189 Bernardo Ave.
    Suite 100
    Mountain View, CA 94043
    Tel: 650-960-4530
    Fax: 650-961-7099”

    – – –

    This communication reveals the following:

    1. SETI considers the UFO phenomena a, “field of research”. This supports my assertion that specific criteria or process is necessary in order to objectively isolate what is and is not credible physical evidence with respect to contact with extraterrestrial intelligence. One could easily argue that SETI has failed to do their job by leaving this area of research open to bias and speculation.

    2. Dr. Shostak has offered no such specific criteria or process but conversely bases his conclusions with respect to this, “field of research” on what other unspecified individuals have concluded using unspecified methods. This is once again entirely UNscientific and in conflict with SETI’s stated mission: A dedication to scientific research as well as having, “a passion for discovery”.

    3. The only personal observation Dr. Shostak offers is the “way” Mr. Meier’s evidence “looks”. Once again no method, process nor equipment is specified. However, Mr. Meier’s photographic evidence has been validated by meticulous photogrammetric analysis using a variety of state-of-the-art equipment, including but not limited to

    i) microscope
    ii) microdensitometer
    iii) scanning electron microscope

    This analysis was completed in the early eighties by individuals whose professional credibility has yet to be challenged and whose work has yet to be refuted. This fact would indicate only one of two possible conclusions: Dr. Shostak is either

    a) incompetent.
    b) dishonest.

    Either possibility supports Mr. Horn’s assertion of fraud.

    The photographic analysis however only scratches the surface of this uniquely extensive UFO case which also includes scientific analysis of sound recordings, metal-crystal samples and 8mm film recordings, none of which have ever been duplicated nor explained. This leaves, “the majority of people” that Dr. Shostak has talked to who, “consider the Meier evidence to be faked” in very real jeopardy of being grossly in error unless their analyses can be openly scrutinized and verified.

    In addition to the original investigators, a number of scientific experts have supported the authenticity of the Meier case:

    http://theyfly.com/scientific-experts-comments-meiers-evidence
    http://theyfly.com/Scientific_Experts.html

    This number appears to be increasing rather than decreasing:

    https://theyflyblog.com/2014/05/20/nasa-engineer-billy-meier-ufo-case-real/
    http://rhalzahi.com/docs/WCUFO-EN-v2.pdf
    http://www.rhalzahi.com/docs/pendulum-EN.pdf

    I have yet to hear of anyone reversing their support for the case although at least one former skeptic has become a supporter:

    https://theyflyblog.com/2013/03/27/scientists-make-new-discovery37-years-after-it-was-published-by-billy-meier/

    The backing from these members of the scientific community would appear to contradict SETI’s earlier statement:

    “…the lack of credible physical evidence has made it difficult for serious scientists to believe that UFOs have anything to do with extraterrestrial visitors.”

    Once again, this leads to one of two conclusions: This statement was either

    a) made in haste, suggesting incompetence.
    b) deliberately dismissive, suggesting dishonesty.

    Once again, either one supports the allegation of fraud.

    In conclusion, these specific examples support Mr. Horn’s claim: SETI is a cynical fraud. I have found no examples that refute this assertion, however, I would be more than happy to consider such examples IF they exist. You are welcome to post any such examples or any specific arguments for that matter at either of my YouTube pages:

    https://youtu.be/SNlmFfb0ADs
    http://youtu.be/gMFqSxX1b-g

    or, I believe I can speak for Mr. Horn by inviting you to join the discussion at his blog where this message will be posted momentarily:

    https://theyflyblog.com/2015/08/10/the-cynical-fraud-that-is-seti/

    Hope to see all of you there.

    1. Super excellent and maybe they will have the integrity to respond. Please let us know if you do get any responses.

      Communications like these, sent by people other than me, are far more effective than when they just hear from (i.e. get harangued by) me.

        1. There must be a few good, honest people of integrity over there. Let’s see what happens since you make a very good case that should be addressed in a credible way.

          1. We’ll see. I’m not holding my breath. Even if they see my reasoning it will take courage to discuss it openly. I guess this officially makes you more optimistic than me 😉

    2. Bingo!

      – – –

      If you had taken the time to check out web site you would have noticed that Seti institute has 70 researchers working on a wide range of fields called astrobiology.
      Before stating that Seti institute is a fraud please check the large numbers of scientific publications, involving space missions, based on astronomical observations and lab tests that our researchers are conducting on a daily basis. Check also our education and public outreach program to get a better idea of our role in STEM.
      Your conversation with Seth Shostak is interesting but it does not involved any of our researchers. Feel free to continuing it on a private basis with Seth Shostak.

      Cordially

      Franck Marchis

      – – –

      Thank you for responding, Franck. However, an organization can simultaneously be involved in numerous, legitimate activities and still be a fraud if only one area of RELEVANT research is flatly ignored. A scientifically validated extraterrestrial contactee case IS relevant to the “search for extraterrestrial intelligence”, is it not? In any case, your response to me appears to have been in haste as you have not read my analysis very carefully: I have had no contact with Dr. Shostak. You are the very first member of SETI to have responded to any of my enquiries. FYI, this conversation will be posted to Michael Horn’s blog for reference.

      Taro Istok
      Taro-Istok.com

      1. My optimism wasn’t completely unwarranted! Okay, so he’s a bit out-of-the-loop, unclear as to what SETI, through its name, proclaims itself to be all about.

        While they may be more focused on finding fuzzy little fungi from outer space, we think that…73 years of still ongoing contact with actual extraterrestrial human beings should warrant just a tad of interest if not outright amazement, etc.

        Carry on!!!

  2. An astronomer who does not know about the real extraterrestrial civilizations out there, e.g. the demonstratedly real Plejaren, is like a geographer who can name any country and its capital on a map but who knows nothing about its inhabitants. You ask him, “what is the capital of this country here?” And he says, “Iraq, and the capital is Baghdad, and that river there is the Tigris, etc, etc.” But then you ask him what the inhabitants are like, what kind of food they eat, what language they speak, what their religion is – and he can’t even name one fact.

    1. We should keep in mind that NO ONE at SETI actually expects to find ET life in their lifetime. Their game is that…THEY have determined that contact with ET life will be through complex mathematical formulas that of course will require their “best minds” to sweat over to decipher, etc. In other words, Seth goes to cocktail parties and people draw checks for NOT finding what they claim to be looking for…just like the dolts in the UFOCI:

      https://theyflyblog.com/2014/07/18/i-dont-find-im-for/

      …and finding the mother lode:

      https://theyflyblog.com/2014/03/06/finding-mother-lode/

      …would really put them out of business.

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