Breakdown of ocean conveyor belt could extinguish life on Earth
Science writer Chris Mooney, the author of the new article in The Washington Post regarding the degradation of the oceans due to climate change, says that he…” was formerly somewhat skeptical about the notion that the ocean ‘conveyor belt’ circulation pattern could weaken abruptly in response to global warming. Yet this now appears to be underway…”
This is critical because of the very real – but as yet unrecognized – potentially fatal danger to all life on Earth should this progress to a complete break down of the conveyor belt:
Official Contact Report 544, Saturday, September 1, 2012
Billy: But the over-population causes damage, and indeed increasingly, because it is growing ceaselessly and through that, with all the trappings of terrible things, which are created from it, ever more natural disasters appear. In this regard, you told me privately recently that, by means of the climate change caused by humanity, the world’s oceans heat up quite enormously and thereby the so-called global conveyor belt, which drives the water through all the world’s oceans, could break down.
Ptaah: That is right, because if the global conveyor belt – which, as the enormous current, runs through the oceans and constantly mixes their water – breaks down, then the movement of the oceans will cease, which then means that the majority of all life on Earth will be extinguished. At the present time it is already very bad, because the oceans have warmed to an alarming degree, and indeed in the last 17.9 years, with a thermal energy, which must be computed as the equivalent of two (2) billion Hiroshima atom bombs. Through the fault of the Earth humanity, the Earth is now already in the midst of this destructive process, whereby the oceans, and the global conveyor belt, increasingly heat up increasingly dangerously.
In 2008, Meier bluntly pointed out that “…the first eight years of the 21st Century have now passed, during which the prophecies and predictions of the 1950s, as well as of the 1960s, have been fulfilled as they have in all the decades since, and indeed, up to the current time.” Clearly, this trend has not at all improved.
Certainly the suppression of the Meier case and its contents by various members of the UFOCI, like MUFON, etc., and equally suppressive, profit-oriented pseudo-scientific groups like SETI, have actually contributed to causing great harm to humanity and all life on the planet.
As previously mentioned, all parties interested in our future survival need to stop relying on any so-called “experts” regarding the authenticity of the Billy Meier contacts and his information and conduct their own research.
While the realization of the inescapable authenticity and accuracy of the prophetic information can cause some people to become paralyzed with fear, or feel powerless to do anything about the now seemingly overwhelming magnitude of the situation, inactivity won’t help in the least.
All of this is the result of humanity’s very incorrect, irresponsible and greedy thinking, over a long period of time. It is only through a radical correction in thinking, feeling and acting that we will be able to correct and reverse the damage that we’ve done or allowed to be done.
While there are no quick fixes, the only long lasting remedies will of necessity originate and arise from proper thinking and actions by each individual. This is precisely what the spiritual teaching is all about. “Unfortunately, the term itself often triggers inaccurate associations with religions, belief systems, New Age nonsense, etc., in some people’s minds.)
The spiritual teaching, however, is a non-religious, belief-free teaching, a study and practice for correcting the inaccurate, illogical, irresponsible and delusional “thinking”, if one can even call it that, of the aforementioned associated terms and systems.
I suggest that even the most timid person who recognizes the truths and dangers should not only delve into the spiritual teaching (much of which is freely available) but also begin to…take action by forwarding information such as this to any and all scientists, forums, blogs, media, journalists, etc.
Let’s not miss the opportunity to help bring awareness to others, to contribute to the rest of the world now that we know what’s really at stake.
See also:
Billy Meier’s Environmental Warnings
MUFON, UFOCI Force Cancellation of Billy Meier UFO Case Event!
The Meier Contacts – The Key to Our Future Survival
Thanks to Nicholas Majchrzak for the new information.
“Certainly the suppression of the Meier case and its contents by various members of the UFOCI, like MUFON, etc., and equally suppressive, profit-oriented pseudo-scientific groups like SETI, have actually contributed to causing great harm to humanity and all life on the planet.”
This is a ridiculous statement. Being informed about the Billy Meier UFO case does NOT start an individual out being concerned about the environment, overpopulation, war, humanities, spirituality, etc. No… it works the other way around. First a human being has to be concerned (thinking about) the environment, overpopulation, war, humanities, and spirituality before he/she finds the Billy Meier case in their quest for answers and sees value.
Just because people hear about the UFO ‘farmer’ does NOT mean they will automatically change their ways and start putting themselves in line with the truth. And thus ‘save’ the planet. The “house that is on fire” that all you folks are trying so desperately to warn people about, it already in their faces! Over a billion Christians have been informed about climate change and the death penalty by their pope, for example. But if these same people do NOT see it on their own, then they will fail until such time they see their mistakes and seek out answers to correct them.
I stand by it. These groups have indeed “contributed to causing great harm to humanity and all life on the planet.” We are speaking about groups that have international membership, press attention, funding, etc. Of course through their disinformation, suppression, etc., they add to the negative conditions, including the “being part of the problem instead of the solution” as it pertains not only to environmental issues but to geopolitical ones as well.
Do you really think that we wouldn’t be better off if more people – over the past many decades – had been learning about the most important story, events, discovery, etc., in human history? Don’t you know and understand the disservice done to humanity by these groups that have essentially LIED by omission or commission?
And NOWHERE have I ever said that people will “automatically change their ways and start putting themselves in line with the truth.” As is true with many things though, if people are deliberately kept from information, or fed lies, they have less chance to decide for themselves if they will learn about the issues and contribute to the changes, corrections, etc.
Certainly if people who follow the pope likewise decide to consider the information it would be beneficial. This idea of seeing things on their own has to include that there are those who show what needs to be seen. And saying that because someone shows, informs, teaches, educates, makes people aware, etc., means that they will fail BECA– — — USE they’ve been shown is the “ridiculous statement.”
You do have a consistent theme of criticizing those who have taken as their responsibility trying to warn, inform and…EDUCATE others. I suggest that if that is not YOUR path to allow others to at least follow their own calling. Should they be successful, it may also benefit…you.
Wow… now that one got a lot of responses.
“And saying that because someone shows, informs, teaches, educates, makes people aware, etc., means that they will fail BECA– — — USE they’ve been shown is the “ridiculous statement.”
MH you are putting words in my mouth. I am not saying that because they have been informed, they fail. My whole counter argument to get the ball rolling was one of “self-responsibility.” Your UFO so-called expert cronies are not responsible for “…causing great harm to humanity and all life on the planet.” My friend, WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR CAUSING GREAT HARM TO HUMANITY AND ALL LIFE…
It is our personal responsibility to have as little ecological footprint as we can possibly have. People who and will see value in the Meier case do so NOT because some expert told them that ‘such and such’ photo is real or ‘so and so’ expert said a prophecy came true in the news, people see value and ascertain that the case is REAL after years and years of personal study: looking at photos, comparing to other UFO photos from other cases. Reading contact reports, and then reading the specific books written by Meier. Studying the spiritual teaching, and comparing this to religion. It goes on and on for a person to decide for themselves.
It is against the spiritual teaching to think that a person will NOT “fail” if their whole experience is nothing more than being informed, told, or made aware of something; the spiritual teaching is about taking personal responsibility and finding and correcting mistakes for YOURSELF. NOT being told something by some expert or some expert organization to make up your mind. The whole point of my last entry was that people have to make up their own mind… period. And this even goes for “waking” people up about “the greatest story in human history.”
Education requires that one puts forth information, etc. That is the self-responsibility aspect of the active party. The potentially receptive party who studies, researches, learns, etc., from becoming aware of the information, then is completely self determining as to what they do with it.
Can we imagine just where we’d be now if people, including many of the prophets and teachers of the past, interpreted things as you do and, because of it, remained silent?
You seem to want to limit what I and others freely and self-responsibly choose to say, perceive, etc., do to…your interpretation of just how things “should” be.
I’d suggest that since my own personal experience over many years is abundant in terms of feedback – pro and con – from people who’ve found the material through efforts such as these, you practice doing things the way you prefer and, if you don’t mind my saying it again in this way, “don’t add to the problem but focus on making your own positive contribution”.
Also, while we all (including Meier and the Plejaren) make mistakes, aren’t perfect, may need to and can make corrections, etc., until I hear that Meier and/or the Plejaren now have a different view of my efforts (http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_544) I’ll probably continue to do my best as I feel called to do which, as I think you know, entails many, many different forms and not just the one under discussion.
“…until I hear that Meier and/or the Plejaren now have a different view of my efforts I’ll probably continue to do my best as I feel called to do which, as I think you know, entails many, many different forms…”
I never said that YOU are wrong with your efforts. You have been a big help in Meier’s mission I would surmise. I love your movies. When are you making another one that I can buy? You said Billy Meier was not going to do any more interviews, and behold you have footage from May this year.
To be fair, In the past I thought that you were “missionizing.” But now after thinking about it for a while, I see your point. if you want to “honey badger” UFO celebrities, NASA scientists, and other avenues, go ahead and blow your horn. I see the correlation to the Mission. You are really shaking trees and getting the high hanging fruit. I see that now. I am sorry if you ever thought I was criticizing your honey badgering. Carry on. I can’t or won’t do it. And why would you listen to my anyway? I just got done saying that what a person does is a personal thing. And you don’t need Billy Meier and some big shot space/time alien to give you confirmation that you are doing a good job. This should come from inside YOU! (which I am sure it does;)
Cheers!
Well we may have another filming opportunity in not too long from now, I’ll keep you posted! Here’s to more…badgering them honeys!
I absoluytely agrre MH. Yes I`ve psent years learning and studying the spiritual teachings.I need to go back and study and review refresh myself on the spiritual teachings sooner than later just so I won`t forget what I learned. It`s hightime we all do the same if we all want to survive this timeline and not even think what will happen in the future. “We eather become a Type One World Now or perish lock stock and barre.”l
Anthony Alagna, there appear to be some silly statements in your comment. I will adress a couple of them.
First, you said that we are “all responsible for causing great harm” etc.
Well sure. Everyone is, technically, complicit. However, some are responsible for more harm than others.
Consider a wealthy industrialist in the USA who makes a decision to dump toxic trash in India, where a 6 year old human works to pick out scrap metal to buy food.
Are both responsible in the creation and propagation of that terrible pattern? Yes. Is the 6 year old child as responsible as the wealthy industrialist? Absolutely not.
I would suggest that you calm yourself a little, and think about such things as who caused an effect, and who was affected by that effect, producing a tertiary effect, in your assignation of responsibility.
Another of your comments is where you said “all have a responsibility to have as little ecological footprint as we can possibly have”.
Well, sort of, but not really.
What matters is the size of your ecological footprint compared to the size of the ecosystem.
If you were all by yourself on Earth, you could have a house the size of Mount Everest, and it would not really be a problem.
If, on the other hand, you put yourself into a cloning machine and made a hundred billion copies of youself, then each of you could have a house the size of a refrigerator, and it would be a big problem in an ecosystem of the same size as the one with the Everest sized house.
So, in actuality, it is not our responsibility to have as small an ecological footprint as possible. It is our responsibility to make sure that the size of all of the footprints in the ecosystem are compatible with that ecosystem.
I would suggest that, perhaps, you have been tricked by all of these people saying that humans are evil because humans produce carbon dioxide, when those same people are the ones who run factories that make things designed to break in 3 years so that you can buy another one, which…creates even more carbon dioxide than the carbon dioxide that they are making you feel guilty about.
So please, can we stop with the “we must produce as little footprint as possible” line of thought, and instead turn to the idea of “we must match our footprint with what is around us, sensibly, in balanced proportion, including consideration of the total number of footprints”.
“So please, can we stop with the “we must produce as little footprint as possible” line of thought, and instead turn to the idea of “we must match our footprint…”
The planet Earth is monstrously over populated. Ecosystems, animal species, other lifeforms, rain forests, oceans, etc. are breaking down… there is no matching our footprint with a balanced nature right now. In my opinion, and you are entitled to your own, because of the overpopulation factor for each individual, who is consuming oil, electricity, food, water, etc., from a system that is highly stressed and falling apart, there is an emergency here so I strive for ways to have a lesser impact on the environment. That is just me, you are welcome to do things your way. I take personal responsibility for my impact on this overpopulated, failing planet. Since everything I do, drive a car, consume a factory farm product, buy from a corporate store, for example harms the planet. Even if I grow my own food, you still need a lot of water for example. The planet is losing fresh water by the day! We are in droughts. Then there are reservoirs to stage the water, which rips apart the natural river systems. I could go on and on how the average human being living in the West, even if they are modest and conservationists, are taxing an already bleeding planet.
So go ahead, think that you have dominion over the Earth; that is a religious endeavor and I am not religious.
Maybe in the future when the planet has 500,000,000 population, and we have cleaned up our ecosystems, and there is a balance once again (unspoiled) nature, then I would agree with you that we can match our footprint to our given systems; but even then there is the law of provision which ensures an abundance. And we don’t need to be materialistic and covet the Earth just because it is bountiful. I would still then be a modest human being, or at least do my best to achieve a relative success with modesty.
Anthony Alagna, perhaps I was not clear, and so will attempt to clarify my position.
Things on this planet are so out of balance that fairly well any sensible idea will have a good effect. Reducing ones present footprint is an example of that.
However, viewed in totality, reducing your own footprint, while the vast majority of the population do exactly the opposite, will not yield a positive result long term.
In reality, this is a multi faceted problem, in which a measured and balanced response is required across all aspects of life, beginning with a change in personal behaviour as you suggest, but extending into an alteration in systems of production, distribution, and use of things neccessary to life, which therefore means a change in the thinking of others, who are also producing, distributing, and using things.
Hence, the education of others is important, since the system as a whole cannot function properly if one half of the planet is doing the correct thing, and the other half is doing something else. That kind of thinking does not create balance – it creates distortion.
I have accepted that this is a multi generation long process. I do not think that balance can be achieved within a handful of years. Some systems, and some people, are too out of kilter. A period of acceptance, and adjustment, is most likely needed.
So, given that my personal interests lie in understanding and/or altering technical and/or social systems that have to do with the production and consumption of various things required for life, or that are so greatly desired by human beings to such a degree that they must, for the moment, remain available, I have chosen to focus my desire and will on things that, for now, are mostly mitigatory in their immediate effect, that might one day, through alternate application, lead to sustained, balanced use.
MH and others are doing the same. Find a place where pushing is needed, and push. Pick somewhere comfortable, where you are good at that kind of pushing, because this is going to take awhile.
MH is correct. Organizations such as SETI are what are known as “flytraps”.
Flytraps divert, and trap, honest truth seekers. Any individual caught up in such an organization is kept from truth by simply taking up their time, energy, mental clarity, and usually, money.
Another insidious effect of flytraps is that of emotional investment. Once an individual has spent many years convinced that their particular organization, be it SETI or MUFON or Disclosure Project is the right and correct one, and has paid money, then they find it very difficult to turn away from that organization towards other patterns of thinking.
The prime reasons for that revolve around cognitive dissonence. In short, people don’t like to admit that they have been tricked, misled, and defrauded, over and over, for years.
The particularly nasty ones are those run by government, that drip feed tiny pieces of usually irrelevant information or photographs to followers so as to convince them that progress is being made.
I could name names, but would prefer not to initiate conflict. The only thing that matters is that any organization that keeps people from deriving benefit by way of truth is an obstacle to the progress of humanity, thereby allowing negative patterns on this planet to persist, compound, and worsen.
To add a little levity, I find it quite amusing that this blog is called “they fly”. Creation, it seems, has a sense of humour 🙂
Hi George,
“The prime reasons for that revolve around cognitive dissonence. In short, people don’t like to admit that they have been tricked, misled, and defrauded, over and over, for years.”
So what you are saying is that folks who basically lie to themselves will see value in the Billy Meier case?
Anthony Alagna, what I have said is in plain English. If you are confused, read it again.
Cognitive dissonence is a phenomenon whereby a human who has been thinking deeply in a certain way, and has committed themselves to that line of thought, will resist any and all ideas different from that line of thinking, even to the point of rejecting things that are plainly, obviously true.
Human thinking, and investment in that line of thinking, follows a sliding scale. Simply put, the more invested someone is in an idea, the less able they are to process things that are out of line with it.
The smallest investment in an idea is to read it. The next biggest is to think about it. The next is to accept it. The next is to act upon it. The next is usually a transaction, whereby much time/effort is given to it, or money paid for it. The final step is to include the idea in your assessment of self. ie to think “I am who I am, and the who I am is one who believes in X”
When a human has committed many years in a fake UFO organization, where they pay many thousands of dollars to go out into the desert to pray for UFO’s, then their very self identity is tied to the idea that they are one of the “special” people who not only know how to find the mystery UFO’s, but who can summon them.
Asking a person who has identified with one of the major, fake, UFO organizations is not just asking them to reject the organization – it is asking them to reject who they are. It is asking them to reformat their brain, and to keep on thinking, at the same time.
If you wanted to decide on the truth in the Meier case, the prime thing to look at is that they don’t ask you to do anything. They don’t ask for money. They don’t bang on your door and tell you to believe something.
They only thing that resembles a demand coming from Meier is when he says “when and if you translate what I have written, make sure you include the german writing next to it, because other languages stink”.
I have not seen any demand, anywhere in Meiers writings, ever.
I have not seen Meier take advantage of his capacity to do things that others plainly cannot do, ever.
I wish I could say “I don’t know why people get so angry at Meier, who is sitting in his house in the Swiss mountains” but the fact is, I do understand. Some people are selfish, some people are stupid, some are stuck in flytraps, and the rest are cowards.
And yet…some of them fly 🙂
I think this explains quite a bit and should be “required” reading for people in UFO groups, etc. But then of course they’d probably demand that you pay for their therapy.
I ask a question and I get paragraph after paragraph?
MH- WHY DOES GEORGE HERE NOT HAVE TO POST WITH HIS FULL LAST NAME?
George is actually involved in some “delicate” legal situation that wouldn’t be in the least helped by his appearing and commenting here.
Anthony Alagna, I will reply here to your question “why does George M not have to post with his full name” written below, because MH’s blog software is written such that does not provide an option for me to reply in the proper place.
As stated by MH, I am presently navigating some affairs in which online discretion is neccessary. This is not the only place on the internet that I have been compelled to avoid leaving an unneccessarily complicating digital presence.
I liased privately with MH, who understood the validity and strategic value of my remaining relatively anonymous to the casual observer, while being quite definitely known to him.
I also realize that this has made MH’s already complicated life even more so, and so am very appreciative of his magnanimity. Part of my motivation to write this answer is to state that last openly.
George said:
“Cognitive dissonence (sic) is a phenomenon whereby a human who has been thinking deeply in a certain way, and has committed themselves to that line of thought, will resist any and all ideas different from that line of thinking, even to the point of rejecting things that are plainly, obviously true.”
Exactly. I’ve been talking about this for months here because I’ve never seen such an obvious case of it.
As an aside, I hope whoever’s suing you, trying to convict you or being sued by you doesn’t connect the dots and ID you! An attorney might advise you to stop talking.
Anthony Alagna, When you do not know how to react you become mesmerized, most are not able to think out side of the frying pan their are in. We no longer insure our young know how to think and take action without having someone else s approval or authority. Even today I can not remember how many times I have been told that when I place my hand in a pale of water and then remove my hand it would be as if I was never there. Now thanks to the knowledge acquired from repeatedly reading and studying, I know that to be completely incorrect. Before I ever move my hand I have already changed the water by placing my thought of what the water will feel like in to being. When pushing my hand into the surface I have changed that environment forever. Even after the ripples have settled from removing my hand, nothing will ever be the same. The sum of all energies that are me, are left behind and will blend with anyone else that has come in contact with the same matter. Right now the sum of the negative is massive, but the more humans that keep reaching into the environment. And by pushing the right thoughts and feels outward as we travel with in it changes will happen. The reason for the Peace meditation is that we can as a group reach out in harmony at the same time with the same thoughts and feelings to effect a positive change. But nowhere are we told that after we master this step that we are not to join together to effect even more changes with harder issues. .We can keep shoving our hands into the material realm of people’s thinking and keep watching for the ripples to vanish.
Peace
Wow George it must be a very hard act to follow.
Why not pass your replies to Michael who can then paraphrase your words without you needing to give out your name thus avoiding legal issues.
Afterall Michael has to read your replies whether posted on this blog or as an email.
People can always use pseudonyms but then again Stephen King did it but his writing style gave him away.
matt lee,
don’t you feel sorry for poor MH, who is working himself to the point of exhaustion already, without his having to be my personal secretary?
The thought is amusing though. This is what flashed through my mind (and I am not making fun of anyone – hopefully a few smiles will ensue at what I think when I am not thinking):
MH’s day, matt lee edition:
“translate everything into German so that people from Planet Not-Earth don’t fail in their multi thousand year mission – check”
“assess all posters on blog to identify trolls, plants, or enemy agents – check”
“proof read all documents so that other UFO groups cannot launch all out defamatory attack that will destroy decades of work – check”
“make sure George’s post has a smiley face in the right place – check”
🙂
Remember George M that these flytraps all want your money just like those sleezy corporate 1% louts with there ads. Oh and don`t forget the military is trying to get you to believe in these stupid fake ufos so they can snow you with MORE wars and STEEL your tax dollars for MORE wars and MORE nukes and weapons etc,etc,etc! That`s where all your tax dollars are going instead of fixing our aging broken infrastructure and getting to the REAL TRUTH about the REAL ETs the Plejarens with their spiritual teachings and the REAL MESSAGE from them and Billy Meier of course.
Terry, I politely sort of disagree.
Money is a thing that changes all the time. One day a dollar buys you 12 eggs, the next day it buys you 9 eggs, the next day it buys you 15 eggs, and if you are in Zimbabwe, it buys you zero eggs.
What these people want is your behavior to be what they want it to be, so that they can do what they want to do.
If everyone began thinking the way Meier thinks, then there would be no more palaces for rich people, and slums for poor people.
There would be no more “special people” who are presidents, and “non special” people, cleaning toilets.
The people who run flytraps think of themselves as the “special” ones. They have great technology that they do not let you have. They have unlimited bank accounts, which you do not have. They really like that there is a big difference between them, and everyone else.
They like the idea so much that if you dare to invent something, like a medicine or a machine, that they have, with intent to give it to other people, they will kill you.
If you dare try to teach others that there is no difference between humans, and are good at it, they will kill you.
Anything that stops them being more special than everyone else is to be stomped into the ground.
Life on planet Earth is simply, the Special Olympics.
Pun intended. Awesome, awesome pun, definitely intended. Such a good pun. Did everyone see that pun? It was specially good, that one 🙂
Anthony chill out for a second and do the maths.
Simply put if the majority of us earthlings were informed about the Creational spiritual teachings would we even be in such a mess we have created for ourselves in the first place?
If your computer is infected with a virus what do you do?
So in the same way because we earthlings have been infected with a bad program for so long obviously the results will reflect that in the form of chaos we see today.
The task left to be done is in rewriting and reprogramming which is essentially what the Billy Meier case is in my opinion.
If Jmmanuel has brought the sword of knowledge Billy has taken it and is cutting the hell out of all the crap.
Right. To say that one shouldn’t speak out and also point out the damage done by the enemies of the truth is to allow the truth to be hidden and religions to be strengthened. Many in the UFOCI are the modern day “scribes and pharisees”, the new “generation of vipers” and, again, Asket called MUFON one of Meier’s greatest enemies…years before the organization even came into existence.
Yeah that statement by Asket has etched deeply into my consciousness so much so that I’ve doubted your sincere attempt at reaching out to MUFON right from the beginning.
You gave it a go Michael and that’s the important thing whatever the result may be.
I’ve cut my share of weeds, vines and dead trees in my lifetime and I must say it takes a very long time and back breaking effort.
We should remember that the apparent target ISN’T always either the intended or actual one. By publicly posting all of my various attempts, I’ve brought these issues to the attention of a lot of people because of the key words, the interest in aspects of the topic, etc. – something which our friend Anthony apparently doesn’t comprehend, or perhaps value.
But I value it and others have too, as I’ve determined from traffic on my website, blog, comments, emails, questions form interviewers, etc. We have to use everything to our advantage. And that includes the stubbornness, intransigence, greed, etc., of those who play a deliberate part in suppressing the truth.
“Asket is truly RIGHT ON”:-))) High Five to Asket:-)))
I think it was a smart move on your part Michael and very forward thinking.
In a world where people play by a whole different set of rules I guess you gotta improvise and be the arch crook at times.
How about setting off the alarm bells for some additional attention by including sensitive vocabularies that’ll set the ‘Carnavore’ program off such as Nuclear ISIS bomb threat possible, Billy Meier warns about IS and the need for 300,000 multinational peace keeping troops.
Hi Mr Lee,
Please see my response to MH on “self-responsibility.”
Cheers!
I want to cut to the chase and tell the no frills truth that you really don’t seem to understand what ‘self responsibility means Anthony.
You go on about this self responsibility thingamejig but don’t seem to exercise it yourself.
Why?
What’s the matter?
Exercising self responsibility also entails being open to others to be influenced by the wisdom and knowledge they proffer.
I don’t have to speak for Michael but in Michael’s case the criticism he levels at the UFOIC vultures and hyenas are rightly justified and me being the barbaric earthling I would do much more by punching them in the face like Billy did to Jitchi if they were right in front of me right at this moment.
For the amount of damage that they have done to humanity Michael has been more than generous with his compassion if I could call it that.
Yes I get what you are saying.
Yes it really is up to the individual what they choose to do with it according tovtheir volition.
Yes the onus is onvthe individual to think for themselves and generate their own thoughts to it based onvtheir own volition etc etc etc.
But you seem to be going on a tangent with this one and not onvthe same page as what Michael is on.
Hey can we just leave this on a backburner until you get it someday in the future as I am sure you are smart enough to eventually get it but it seems alittle futile right now.
No offense.
You are correct, I have a lot to learn about self responsibility. You obviously don’t understand the law of contrariness. It is you my friend who is clueless about the spiritual teaching.
You are right Anthony and as a person who recently became a full member of the Catholic faith I totally see your perspective. In all my spiritual travels over the past 50 or so years, I wasn’t able to find any group of people who actually represented the reality I myself was experiencing. I felt most comfortable with the Catholics, because at least they stand for something, they believe in something worthwhile, and many of them are very charitable and caring people. The same can be said of the Mennonites, who all over the world are actively working for peace. I do have a problem with FIGU for coming down so hard on all religious people. We saw with the Communists who took over half the world after WW II, what people who do not believe in a god can accomplish. . . . in a negative direction. When Pope John Paul II was elected in 1978 I remember hoping against hope that somehow the known religious fanaticism of the Poles could act as a force for good and ultimately overthrow the Communist dictatorship of Eastern Europe. As we now know, this is exactly what happened. The Marxist-Leninists do not believe in God. What they created for many people was absolute hell on earth. FIGU should be more careful about condemning all religious people, because some of these are the best people I’ve met!
I didn`t discover Billy and the P`s until the fall of 1997 long before thinking how bad things were getting politically,environmentally and s on. Back then all I knew was there were and are better worlds than this one with NO politics, NO environmental destructions, NO wars and so on. “I just wish by now the people of Earth would learn to follow in the P`s and Billy`s footsteps and PLEASE STOP believing these frauds such as SETI, MUFON, religions, politics etc, and start to clean up their act and just lisiten to Billy and the P`s and PLEASE get the hell moving in the right direction with the spiritual teachings and PLEASE CLEAN up planet earth before you end up with these BAD SHILLS trying to mess things up even more with their nefarious dung!” Some of us who have discovered Billy and the P`s years ago are now aware of how bad things are getting.This is long before we even thought about these things being done to planet Earth such as the environment and the war making that was and is still going on.
Hi Terry,
“Back then all I knew was there were and are better worlds than this one with NO politics, NO environmental destructions, NO wars and so on.”
So what were you saying about “not thinking how bad things were getting…” before your quest landed you on Billy Meier?
And please don’t forget to post this one, MH;)
I`m glad you broght that up because before 1997 I read a lot of bookback then before I even had a computer. I was looking for good friendly helpful ETs back then I once read a book by the late George Andrews called Aliens Friends and Foes. Then I had a subscription to the Sedona Journal magazine which had a lot of positive thoughts sort suger coated if you will but actually I was looking for and becames interested in the beings from the Pleiades which was nothing more than the stupid channeling material back then but even though this was positive,it wasn`t what I was looking for,then somebody gave me this big huge Sightings book and suddenly I stumbled upon and found what I was looking for all these years,and that`s where I discovered the Pleiadian/Plejaren people from Erra ad Billy Meier and found what I wanted all along,more spiritual values,peace,the arts,scince not wars guns and violence. Unfortunately most eople on Earth today STILL believe in guns,viiolence and wars and this is where I part company with this savage barbaric primitive world called Earth,but I`m also aware of what Semjase once told Billy that there are also worlds much worse than Earth too etc so I try to steer cler of those worlds by meditating when ever I can so that no harm can come to me.
We have to be patient, much inhumane trauma has been employed here. If you go back to 1900 a great wealth was created and it corrupted those in possession of it. It was not enough to have your family and all those after to be set for life. They wanted more.An extreme addiction developed for power. If you study history , you can see a new plan was put together , quickly to develop an entire society to implement this massive movement.It happened well before we were all born. It is in full song now. They created technology and formulas to control billions, developed the institutions to brainwash and were very advanced in their plans. Its safe to say everything after 1900 was done in front of the world to control it. BEAM seems to come into play as he was born. In the apex of this formula and its sinister roots. His help in his teachings was massive in its importance and timing. He may very well be the first, on our side to have the learining and teaching of the complete onslaught of it all. That is a massive burden and this man is a cornerstone of this time. He fought for all of us knowing what was to come. While knowing very well how hard it would be for anyone to digest.
Great sinister institutions were cemented in the fabric of this world to teach this ‘plan’ and to create entire industries lockstep with the intent of entire control. Its manifesting now in its complete form of takeover of everything including your dna and thoughts. So the most important message was of ones own self control and brave inherent beliefs of the powers of one. Because these sinister plans started from one and they applied it full on believing it could be done. We need to believe we can change. Beginning with ourselves ,shining our light outwards and pulling back on the rope. Like fighting a unreal piece of creation like the old man and the sea. In a row boat , with a hand line and every possible thought of success seeming impossible. So much increadible knowledge exists on this planet to solve every single problem.Not all may seem out in the open ,but they are here. So are we.
Thanks George M. Now I know who`s REALLY pulling our purse strings and pushing our buttons etc making us believe what they wants us to believe now that the New World Oder is upon us with their stupid delusional flytrap games such e as money,war and greed etc,etc,etc.
The lights can be made by arranging lasers of different colors in an arrangement equaling in effect as a copy to the chosen symble . It would go sooooo good with a stand.?
It could be in the back grounds shot of Mike’s new films. Hahahahahahaha?
Hi Terry,
Are you a professional rabble rouser? You have already posted 12 times in this segment, with a wordcount of over a thousand and fifty. A bit excessive, don’t you think?
One thing is for sure, when people read your posts, they will automatically think, “who is this nut?”
Which is exactly what the objective is. The objective is to create the impression that people interested in the Meier material is a bunch of moronic, naive new age hippies. So, good job Terry and all the others, keep on contaminating the truth with your bs.
The most annoying thing you have said so far Terry is, “Asket is truly RIGHT ON”:-))) High Five to Asket:-))) “
Honestly, who says that??
Jacobus Kotze, Was that last comment in line with any of Billy’s teachings. This person has as much value as you or I. As a little past middle age person myself the need to first write in a larger notepad and to meditate a little on what you are about to send out works great. Michael has opened this blog for a 13 to 100 but if this is the only place she has to work out new, thoughts she is not alone many students here..
Jacobus the more intolerable part about your exchange with Terry isn’t the length or content of Terry’s post but your recalcitrant arrogance that truly go against the spirit in which the BEAM’s mission is about, the intent and content of the spiritual teachings and in general the spirit of coming together on such a forum as this where freedom, love, peace and harmony is valued.
WTF is wrong with you!
Everyone has a right to be heard without being assulted by low level scummy putdowns only a degenerated mind could foster.
No that wasn’t a putdown itself but an unfetted observation of reality as it is.
Anthony , I understand your point and I was asking myself and will now pose this for you and all as well . If we are all suppose to be responsible for all of this , is it accountability you are referring to? Because many are born into a world that , if they live through the possibility of being aborted , you know possibly pulled out of the womb alive and some , a small amount actually fight the prongs and scalpels that they clearly are no match for, and of course sold for research or possible flavoring for food, are they too ‘responsible’? Your words for the most part are cohesive, yet Geoengineering is awaiting outside the womb, fluoride and Gardasil and lets not forget Fukashima radiating a welcome with Coext from the Gulf spill. Do you feel an average life born these days has a 100 percent chance of being 100% accountable? Must I throw in the BTA ‘fortified’ foods of our GMO world , or the flicker rate of a television, a computer , the waves of electronic manipulation like HAARP. Do we all have a 100% chance? Lets not forget Flouride alone will bump you down some 20 points of IQ power or say conservatively 10% of your potential. Oh and then their is ‘toilet to tap’ Yes , all the fake pharmasuetical ‘remedies’ the masses take crap into your water supply and DO NOT get filtered out. Oh shave of some more potential. And all the while ALL the water California needs lies just below them. Healthy water , naturally filtered , more shallow than a Mobil oil drill some 75 years ago.
Withold technology and repress in concert with ill intent. Not one precious baby has a fighting chance exiting the womb , not to mention its fight to even become a birthed human. And if and when they do , are they 100% responsible?
No , they are not. They have to fight for a chance , a meager chance to be a David in the face of Goliath , stomping his boot or using a clamp to pull them out of the womb hoping to sell the parts of said fetal tissue.
We are better than that , each one of us is a gift and a potential, however we are not equally responsible for what has transpired. To correctly view this, we ARE potential and we ARE opportunities to rise above and be more , that is who we are.
Decalog, p.29,195.
Humans of Earth, you are neither better nor worse than other life forms. You are, however, much more misled than any other life form known to us. This predicament simply stems from the unworthiness of your unreal and irrational religious CULTS whose equal cannot be found on any other level or universe known to us. This state neither springs from depravity nor viciousness on your part. You have been misled for specific dishonest reasons, and thus you have fallen prey to exploitation, spiritual deprivation [of the consciousness], and enslavement. This is not due to wickedness or maliciousness on your part, because, out of certain unexplained [as at 1975] grounds, you have been wrongly led, which has caused you to fall to exploitation, spiritual poverty and consciousness poverty, and to slavery.
It would be wrong to reproach you and hold you to blame for this resulting ruin and corruption. Yet you must be conscious that you rush towards further corruption and ruin if you do not turn away from these false cult religions that are maliciously strange from the truth. You have [as of 1975] really not yet wandered into ruin but, you are on the way to it. As you don’t live in the values of true knowledge but in wrong belief in cult religions, your present state is ignorance, error, unreality, and lack of wisdom. Cultish religions – belief in a god, gods, false deities, saints, holy pictures, icons, ideals altogether embody the evilest sign-post to the street to ruin and to spiritual and consciousness darkness.
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OM, Kanon 32:41
Religions and sects are like the poison of scorpions which robs the human of his consciousness, or kills him. The wise and knowing push back the scorpion, but the weak-sensed grasps it with the bare hand.
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Mensch der Erde, du bist nicht besser und nicht schlechter als andere Lebensformen, doch aber um sehr vieles irregeleiteter als alles uns Bekannte.
196. Dies aber auch nur im Unwerte deiner irrealen und unverständlichen KULTISCHEN
Religionen, die nicht ihresgleichen in allen uns bekannten Ebenen und Universen finden.
197. Dies aber ist nicht Schlechtigkeit noch Bösartigkeit von dir, denn du bist aus bestimmten unlauteren Gründen nur irregeleitet worden, wodurch du der Ausbeutung, der Geistarmut (Anm. Bewusstseinsarmut) und der Sklaverei anheimgefallen bist.
198. So wäre es falsch, dir vorwürfig zu werden und dich des erlangten Verderbens zu
beschuldigen.
199. Doch sei dir bewusst, dass du weiterhin diesem Verderben entgegeneilst, wenn du dich nicht abwendest vom Wege deiner irreealen Kult-Religionen, die der Wahrheit bösartig fremd sind.
200. Noch bist du wahrlich nicht ins Verderben gewandelt, doch aber wandelst du auf dem Wege zu diesem.
201. Dein gegenwärtiger Stand ist Unwissen, Irrung, Unrealität und Unweisheit, denn du lebst nicht im Werte des wahrlichen Wissens, sondern im irrealen Glauben an kultische Religionen, an einen Gott, Götter, Götzen, Heilige, Heiligenbilder, Idole und Ideale, die allesamt die bösesten Wegweiser der Strasse zum Verderben und der geistigen (Anm. bewusstseinsmässigen) Finsternis verkörpern.
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Religionen und Sektiererei sind wie das Gift des Skorpions, das dem Menschen das Bewusstsein raubt oder ihn tötet; der Weise und Wissende weicht dem Skorpion aus, der Schwachsinnige aber fasst ihn mit der blossen Hand.
http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/True_State_of_Earth_Humanity.pdf
David You forgot to mention the oil spill off the Santa Babara coast of California.
Interesting observation of reality Matt… I know what is going on here. You’ve had a bad day at the office, and you were just venting your frustration. Maybe you should take Billy Wilson’s advice and meditate before posting in the future.
Also, you have unwittingly given me a compliment. Thanks!
Jacobus if Lennon said ‘give peace a chance’ why not ‘give Terry a chance’ hey?
It is a difficult task at hand when you desire to soar like an Eagle, only to be reminded when you look in the mirror to find you are living the life of a Turkey.
Yeah, people…gobble up that kind of stuff.
Well Timothy you should go cold.
Hehe
Ok Matt, I will give him a chance. I will try to be more tolerable towards Terry.
Jacobus,
Terry’s a female…and I think you may mean more tolerant.
Jake, I’m not sure you can be tolerable to anyone.
Oh sorry, I thought she was a fully grown man. I will try to be more trollerant towards Terry from now on. And I didn’t mean to call Terry a new age hippy monster.
I’m sure she’ll understand, etc. However, this new…trollerant thing, now you’ve got me worried!
I am also worried now…Maybe I’ve got everything mixed up. So, all jokes aside, Terry is a girl, Matt is a girl and Sheila is a man. Is that right?
Pretty close. Terry’s a girl/female/woman, and so is Sheila. Matt is still a man.
Someone here is a cantaloupe but I forgot exactly who.
How could you forget me?!?
Who?
Yeah I am stillman but not a vril man and I drink beer until I turn into an illman so quit it man
Oh, of course, there is only one melon head and that is Moshe.
But don’t get me wrong, I love melons.
Interesting, now that you are talking about alcohol abuse Matt. What is Billys take on alcohol consumption or drinking in general again? The way I remember it, is that they hardly drink at the Figu center (if at all).
Hey so like Michael said you are the one who is the melon Jacobus.
Ummmmmm
No I am not under the influence but might as well be after reading your latest post.
Was that your brand of humour or did you not get what I was getting at.
Gees