Michael Horn is on Real Astrology with Matthew Deagle, on Rense Radio, to discuss the Billy Meier’s Extraterrestrial Contacts
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Some Introductory Questions
In an ongoing discussion about the Meier case, a skeptical friend raised a number of questions and challenges that reflect what some other people have also asked. I’m offering the questions and my answers below and I welcome responses, etc.
Q: How do we know that the UFOs in Meier’s photos, films and video aren’t models, trick photography, or that false perspective wasn’t employed?
A: Because the independent, expert analyses, using state-of-the-art technology, established that they are, indisputably, large objects a distance from the camera. And only through such technological analyses, a scientific approach – and not speculation, guessing, anecdotal information, etc. – can we determine that information. This is also why no skeptic, model maker, etc., has ever submitted their photographs of models for the same testing that substantiated the objects in Meier’s photographs as being large, unknown and a distance from the camera.
The first testing was done more than 30 years ago, using the state-of-the-art technology of the day, which was already far beyond anything that Meier himself had access to. The most recent testing was conducted with much more sophisticated, current technology and software that didn’t even exist when Meier took his photographic evidence. And the results can be duplicated by anyone with a computer who obtains the software and wants to repeat the tests. See also: The Billy Meier UFO Case: Now You Can Prove It to Yourself
It should also be mentioned that several other people photographed the same craft…some in other countries.
See the links at: Corroboration & Evidence
Q: Couldn’t Meier have done as other skilled, disabled people do and, in this case, have used his one hand to accomplish this, or even had accomplices?
A: As for the assumption that Meier himself (or parties unknown) made such models, used trick photography, etc., zero evidence has ever been found or presented to support that hypothesis and, to the contrary, the original decade long, on-site investigation, as well as the subsequent investigations into every aspect and circumstance of Meier’s life, his…means, motive and opportunity, clearly rule out such speculation. Again, the actual evidence to support the speculation must be provided and never has simply because…it doesn’t exist.
Meier presented his first documented, photographic evidence from 1964, in India when he had two hands, and the last of the physical evidence was presented in 1981, in Switzerland. He lost his left arm in 1965, after which the evidence became not only far more abundant and diverse but even clearer.
The total umber of UFO photos was about 1,200, along with eight films, a video, four separate sound recordings and metal samples. None of this evidence has ever been determined to be hoaxed and there is nothing even remotely comparable on record for any other disabled person…let alone fully able-bodied individuals.
Q: Could the UFOs Meier photographed be terrestrial/military craft?
A: There’s no evidence to support that hypothesis. That there are terrestrial/secret military UFOs capable of hovering and flying is not in dispute, as Meier published in 2007 in the 441st Contact Report. But since Meier first started taking his photographic evidence – in 1964 – no terrestrial source has come forward to claim responsibility, nor has any independent source provided any information that would lead to that conclusion.
Q: Isn’t it true that photographs, films, video, metal samples and sound recordings aren’t considered actual evidence?
A: Absolutely not true. Any and all of the aforementioned can be, and have been, used as critical evidence for a long time and in many legal cases. Obviously, photographic evidence – while trickery, faking, etc., must first be ruled out – has been considered good enough to contribute to determining the guilt or innocence of numerous people; lives have hung in the balance.
Q: What about other people who may have published things that Meier then plagiarized?
A: To assume that just because a person here or there knew or wrote something theoretical or even similar to what Meier published doesn’t mean that Meier had access to or saw it, etc. To the contrary, Meier’s never published theoretical information, only stated facts as presented to him by the Plejaren, or as deduced by himself. And so much of what he’s published was done long before the existence of the internet. Every skeptical claim has failed to provide the actual, verifiable, means, motive and opportunity that would have been necessary to substantiate such claims.
Add to all of this some 26,000+ pages of information, including what I refer to as prophetically accurate scientific and world event related information – all from the same individual – and we have another huge element to consider. We can’t assume that, contrary to all known circumstances in Meier’s life – and human nature itself – that he magically acquired the abilities, and took the immense time, to concoct all of this…risking his credibility should the information and/or the evidence prove to be hoaxed, erroneous, etc., and never sought fame or fortune, etc.
Meier’s life is a rather open book. His known education, location, background, skills and knowledge – plus the responsibilities he verifiably had at the same time – make such an explanation beyond speculative. In fact, such speculation only has the result of making Meier into some kind of a superman, an expert in photography, film making, special effects, model making, along with sound recording, metallurgy, hypnosis, mind control, philosophy, creative writing, archeology, biology, chemistry, astrophysics, physics, mathematics, ancient languages, electronics, etc., etc., etc., all of which is less probable than that he’s simply…telling the truth.
Q: Couldn’t, and in fact haven’t, other people come up with the some of the same so-called prophetically accurate information that Meier has?
A: Certainly. Throughout history there’ve been various people, from the well known to the lesser known, who’ve published prophecies and/or predictions that came to pass, or that appear to be coming to pass, some of which are the same in certain ways as what Meier’s published. What’s missing is any other single person who’s predicted all of the now more than 200 specific examples that Meier has. And Meier’s been far more detailed, as well as diverse in the categories, types, kinds of information that he’s covered.
Other people who’ve “tapped in” to the information have usually done so more sporadically and often put in other information that isn’t accurate. This may have happened when they started to embellish upon the accurate information that they picked up from impulses. The prophetic information that Meier and the Plejaren have accessed exists also in what are called the storage banks and so other sensitive people may also become aware of it, most likely accidentally, not even knowing how they did it.
Meier explained how he accesses the prophetic information (which is also true for how he accesses and conveys the spiritual teaching) when he wrote this, over 20 years ago, in the Prophetien:
“The contents of this book are of prophetic and predictive nature, however, it is not (with few exceptions) the work of myself and therefore not the work of my own ability. I only occupy the role of mediating prophet, making available to Man in responsible manner the conversation explanations revealed to me or the symbol-pictures transmitted to me in Spirit-telepathy form, in that I translate the symbol-pictures into words, formed according to the understanding and grasping of knowing and recognizing people of Earth, who are able to extract and interpret these values.
Needing to be explained to you regarding this, dear readers is this: The prophecies, probability calculations and predictions are given to me, on the one hand, by extraterrestrial human beings from planets and universes unknown to Earth- and SOL- systems but, on the other hand, from higher planes of Spirit. Therefore, as a rule, the prophecies and predictions are not the product of my own ability as a seer, wherefore I only pass on the transmitted facts conveyed to me. The products of my own predictive ability are based on exact calculations, of which, however, I do not make extensive use, because the transmissions of the predictions and prophecies from higher Spirit planes and extraterrestrial humans, who know the future, are much more far reaching and precise. The transmissions from high Spirit planes and from extraterrestrials, at any given time, take place at irregular intervals. In addition, these transmissions are often partial and fragmented, so that only in total context they make sense, wherefore it is my obligation to establish the connection and create a whole, however, according and ever true to the transmissions, as I would not be allowed to add or subtract any one incorrect word.”
One other, very important distinction is that Meier has – once again provided the spiritual teaching – which also contains very specific recommendations, advice, etc., to help us avoid and avert the otherwise certain to occur prophecies…if we would but only listen.
Q: Why would we need another prophet?
A: The problem is that people didn’t learn from the past prophets – when some of the things they too foretold and that are now upon us could have been altered. This is also the time when the spiritual teaching, the truth, can be preserved electronically and remain unaltered, so that no more religions, cults, sects, etc., can corrupt, falsify and start anew to mislead the people.
As usual, people are too busy trying to discredit, debunk and attack Meier, as was the case with the prophets in the past, rather than have the intelligence to learn from him. It’s more important to the current online armchair “experts” to try to play “gotcha” and show how smart they are, that they are simply too clever to be fooled…by someone who’s trying to help us assure our own, ever more threatened future survival. The same is true of course of those who “know” just how contact with an extraterrestrial race is “supposed” to occur, revealing themselves to actually be lost in fantasies, nonsense and pure ignorance.
We must stop viewing this as a “my prophet is better than your prophet” competition, which only trivializes the extremely serious matters at hand.
We have to come to terms with our own motives, prejudices, assumptions, etc., and honestly confront the fact that we are genuinely puzzled, and even feel threatened by this seemingly impossible, improbable situation. We would like to demand that evidence and proof conform to our expectations, when simply testing it all according to the scientific method is, and must be, sufficient to reveal the truth.
We may be troubled by the implications, the uncertainties, the realization that we’re not the only, let alone the most advanced human beings in the universe, and that far more evolved, knowledgeable and even…benevolent human beings are in a sense playing with us, prodding us along to struggle through not only the evidence but our own limiting beliefs as well, in order to help us assure our own, very threatened future survival.
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