There would have been a catastrophic global atomic war had Clinton won

In an excerpt from the 663th Contact Report, November 6, 2016, Billy Meier and Ptaah discussed the recent US presidential election (original German transcript here). While Trump is still regarded as “the lesser of two evils”, choosing him over Clinton avoided a catastrophic global atomic war at this time.

US-America’s election campaign 2016

Excerpt from the 663th contact report between Ptaah and Billy from 6th November 2016

Billy …However, what I want to ask now: Some time ago you told me that in the US the most primitive election campaign ever about the US-presidency fortunately decided thusly, that the majority of the US-population would vote for the lesser evil, by which a world war would be avoided. About that however,I was supposed to be silent,, because the ‘walls in the centre have ears’, consequently everything would be carried out into the world and therewith also to the USA, which would not be good and could negatively influence the electoral process if certain elements found out that Clinton will be ‘sawed off’ in the election and that Trump will take over.

Ptaah   It would have been really dangerous if you had told anything, because a very unpleasant and dangerous uproar would have come about in certain inner circles of government and in certain secret services if they had heard about what I entrusted to you. It would have brought about election-manipulations beyond compare, as well as life-threatening attacks against Trump, and indeed in a secret service wise as well as from the ranks of fanatical Democrats**. He would not have received any help from the Republican party, even though he belongs to it, nevertheless, if I want to disclose my opinion on his behaviour, I must say that he really represents a separate party, namely his own, thus his own one-man-party as it were

As you have rightly assessed him, he is, at least as an election-campaigner in his campaign-motives, chaotic and a catastrophic human being. However, about that I must also say that he is otherwise well-meaning and not bad, also in regard to Russia and Putin with whom he, in an honest form, wants to strive for a peaceful political, military and economical agreement. This in contrast to Clinton, who harbours sneaky and evil warmongering thoughts against Russia and therefore wants to carry out military actions against the Russian military in Syria first, and then also wants to carry out war-attacks against Russia itself. A fact in regard to her thoughts of attack, which she, as an enemy of Putin and Russia, has been harbouring for a long time and which she also wants to carry out. And if she won the presidential election then a nuclear war would be unavoidable. But fortunately this will not come about as I already told you on the 30th June*. Of course next Wednesday the world will be shocked when Trump wins the election, because his mode of speaking was, and is, not the most cultivated one, however, he has good basic approaches in various directions, which he intends to implement if he is not interfered with by his advisors and those who are might-obsessed and want to direct him according to their scheme, and most likely also will in certain matters, as it has been the case with all US presidents and will continue to be so.

However, if he succeeds he will set out against globalisation and also against the USA interfering too much in foreign nations, as it has done up to now and thereby neglecting the order in its own country, rather building it up again [the order].

However, time will tell to what extent he will be able to push through his basic ideas, because beside him are all the might-obsessed ones around him, who do not let him act according to free will, but who will try to steer him at their own discretion, as it was the case with Obama also, who was lacking the necessities to be able to prevail.

And because Trump is not really a politician but a man of business, in this regard he will have a difficult standing as president in his own government department. This will also be the case in regard to foreign policies, whereby also the machinations of the EU dictatorship will be decisive for it, because once he has assumed presidency it will make an effort, through renewed negotiations, to restore the close relationships and connections with the White House and the US government which it lost through his election.

And as far as I know the EU dictatorship will try to pull the USA onto its side and together with it form a political, economic and military might-coalition, whereby already very early a forming of a coalition is attempted, indeed as soon as the first shock has passed, which will hit the dictatorship, because it does not expect Donald Trump but Hillary Clinton to win the election, who has an engaging and accommodating stand towards the EU dictatorship.

Billy   We will see what happens, whereby I do not doubt that your prediction from June was right and that the catastrophic human being, that is to say, the lesser evil will win the US presidency – thus Trump. …

Billy   Once more a question about Donald Trump: You said that this man is well-meaning, not bad and in some things completely misinformed – what is to be understood by that?

Ptaah   He is not of low intelligence and not the bad human being that he will be accused of being by his adversaries, who will set upon him and also try to cause riots, because none of them know which insidious thoughts and plans his opponent Hillary Clinton really harbours, through which she would trigger a world-wide catastrophe if she came into power. As far as the election campaign speeches by Trump are concerned, these are, first of all, just campaign speeches, which must not be understood as effective in their entire form, because the entire radical appearing ‘calling-out’ as you have often described such speeches, are only partially or not at all to be taken seriously, because as a rule these are always relativised after taking office. Additionally Trump is in certain things that he champions wrongly informed, as for example in regard to climate change, as well as Obama Care and other things, wherefore however there is hope that he will think of something better in this regard.

Billy   I see, that’s what is behind your remark.

Ptaah  Which in effect I should have explained better.

Billy   Which is done now, so do not make a problem of it.


*In 2008, Ptaah seemed to hint at Clinton’s defeat also in 2016, when he said the world would be spared her destructiveness.

**The political polarization and violence, mainly coming from the radical left, is already in evidence and could foreshadow the still predicted two coming US civil wars. Those who may now recognize the authenticity and accuracy of Meier’s information may wish to help avert these wars, and other catastrophes, by studying elements of the spiritual teaching, including The Might of the Thoughts and The Way to Live.

Thanks to Bruce Lulla, VIbka Walder and Stefan Zutt for translation work.

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202 comments on “Trump: According to Billy Meier and the Plejaren

  • Hello Michael its true what billy said when he was talking about Clinton Emails that Trump wasn’t going to lock her up if i’m correct

  • Trump is really a corporate businessman not a politician.I think that that was sort of a side interest in politics for Trump and somehow he was interested in politics so he sort of dangled the idea around and took a chance as all businessman do got into politics and became the next US president but the one “VERY BIG MISTAKE”: HE MADE WAS THAT HIS ADMINISTRATION AND CABINET ARE ALL MILITARY SHARKS OUT FOR MORE WARS WHICH TO ME IS DEAD WRONG which could very well lead to WW4 but that is just my guess.

    • Hi Robert, I don’t know. I’ve been on 17 times and people may have to request it. So far as I know, the interview for the Gaia TV show, Beyond Belief, with George Noory, hasn’t aired yet, despite my having done it a few months ago.

      Nora was very impressed with the the UFO evidence AND the prophecies. Maybe the owners of the channel are not happy because everything else they do about UFOs and “aliens’ is nonsense and disinformation form liars like Corey Goode and David Wilcock.

      • Apparently real contact folks don’t go to the public they keep silent only Daniel fry was the one out of only 8 contacts who ever went to the public, however Dan Fry’s was not real because he was sent tele-projections from the evil Giza intelligence so his stories are nonsense too. CR 382 explanation in German only.

      • That’s a shame, but that’s Hollywood. They have much to lose if they really push Billy’s case. Noory has his strings and his celebrity. Time is getting short it seems. But there is still a chance for a change for the better. What has been your experience with 4chan or any of these kinds of groups? I have started looking into them. It’s true the spirtiual teachings would stop all of the problems with the world. Most people want to put their head in the sand, with their butt strait in the air. I do not get it, but I keep on trying to get them to stand up and listen to Billy. This election is the wrecking ball that the USA has created for itself.

  • Don’t mean to get off topic, but I watched the Movie and documentary Snowden this past week. Wow talk about Billy nailing it on who is running the show!!! But my respect goes out to Edward Snowden for what he did. Wish we had more “Whistleblowers” with that kind of access. My only concern is has it made a difference.

    • hi joe, there is a woman ( Karen hudes) who is probably, in my opinion, another of the very top among whistleblowers everywhere who try to expose corruption and lies that are ceaselessly foisted upon the sleepy public. she is the overseer mandate trustee of the global debt facility which is a trust set up by Eisenhower, Truman, and other “mighty ones” of the world at that time. it’s a long story but, again in my opinion, of utmost relevance to truly understanding the nature and reality of the world in which we live. and therefore a better grasp on how to solve the problems humanity faces. she can be found at and by the way, just today she published a verified affidavit of obligation which is part of the commercial lien process which, among some notable (actually many) others, names Donald trump. check it out if you wish. cheers———antonio

  • When did Dr. Jill Stein become a minion of Hillary Clinton? Perhaps she’s a minion of George Soros? Raising money to recount the votes in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania for what purpose? It will not help her at all and can only benefit Hillary.

    • Let’s remember also that several million votes came from illegals, criminals released so as to vote for her and those persistently politically interested dead folks who have the endearing habit of voting repeatedly, for all eternity.

    • There has been some new recently on Jill helping Clinton. She may in fact bring to light some voting fraud and a more accurate count but I wouldn’t believe the propaganda that she is doing it for the benefit of Hilary. Hillary may benefit but She would primarily being doing this for her own party. If the recount show that she got 5% of the vote then the green party gets federal funding made available in the next election. She also believes in just and fair elections.

      • As should everyone. But the fact remains that during this recount Jill has collected more anonymous donations then she received during her whole campaign. Plus they are not going to hand count the votes as she suggested. Which leaves a lot of room for more voter fraud. The 500% increase in votes for her is unrealistic. If anything this recount will take away votes that are spoiled, it will more likely take votes away from all candidates. Some members of the electoral college have already been receiving death threats. Wonder who from?

        • Also Jill claims this recount is going to cost between $6 to $7 million. Her website is asking for $4.5 million. Where is the rest of it coming from? When asked by Anderson Cooper of CNN last night what she would do with the leftover cash she didn’t have a ready answer, she said it would all get spent. Maybe Jill is only green for the greenbacks? Or perhaps it’s what Billy warned us about, false mothers of the new millennium.

  • Hi Michael. About trump in a

    NOTE: The author of this email failed to provide authentication for their real identity. So I’m deleting their comment…but I kinda like mine so I’ll leave it.

  • I just read about the variable speed theory but this makes me wonder how the Ps travel from one dimension to the next in order to have contact with Billy going into the past for Billy and then back home to their world Erra in the future next dimension?

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