The Plejaren reveal the true and false conspiracies over the last 1,000 years


49. Which I can understand very well.

50. But now I want to mention the list you copied from “Wikipedia,” starting with the oldest – up to the latest – officially known conspiracy theory.

51. Those that effectively correspond only to illusory theories, I will simply label FALSE, while one thing must be labeled and explained as TRUE that corresponds to the facts.

52. So the following applies to the conspiracy theories listed below:

List of Conspiracy Theories

This list lists conspiracy theories of recent centuries. It contains confirmed and refuted but also unclear theories that deal with religious, political, cultural or everyday-cultural conspiracies. This list is not intended to be exhaustive.

12th Century

Blood libel: 1144 is the first time it was claimed that Jews had kidnapped a Christian child in order to murder it on Passover in a secret ritual.


14th Century

Well poisoning: Particularly during the great plague epidemics of the 14th century, social marginalized groups, mostly Jews, were accused of having caused the epidemic to destroy Christianity by poisoning the public wells.

54.  FALSE

15th Century

Witchcraft: The popular belief that natural disasters and illnesses are actually caused by black magic spellcasters (witches) was accepted by theologians in the 15th century and developed into an imagination of a secret witch sect in covenant with the devil, which led to persecution of alleged witches for centuries.


16th Century

Exeter conspiracy: King Henry VIII. was supposed to be murdered to undo the Reformation.


17th Century

Popish Plot: Catholics allegedly wanted to murder King Charles II.


17th/18th Century

Man in the iron mask: Person close to King Louis XIV.

58. TRUE

59. The mysterious prisoner was the twin brother of the’ Sun King’, Louis XIV, born secretly in 1643 and deceased in 1703.

19th Century

1. Dunkelgrafen: Among the mysterious inhabitants of Eishausen Castle was allegedly the daughter of the executed French king Louis XVI.


2.Flat-Earth-Society-hypothesis: The Flat Earth Society’s hypothesis still propagates today that the Earth is a disc.


3. The Mystery of Kaspar Hauser: The foundling Kaspar Hauser, who was born in 1812, was the hereditary prince to the Grand Duchy of Baden.


4. World Jewry: Jews allegedly want to seize world domination.


5. Conspiracy of the Bahai: As Zionists or spies, Bahai want to destroy either the state of Iran or the entire Islam.


6. Conspiracy theories around Jack the Ripper: The search for the true identity of Jack the Ripper left room for speculation; for example, that he was a secret child of Queen Victoria.


66. Jack the Ripper was a man named Thomas Neill Cream, a trained physician who, after several murders, was arrested, accused, sentenced to death and hanged in 1892.

67. At the same time, a second man, who came from the royal house of Queen Victoria, was also involved in the same mischief, but was never caught because he ended his murders again.

7. Taxil hoax: Alleged eyewitnesses reported of Satanic rites of the Freemasons.


8. Know Nothing Party rumors: Catholic immigration had served the Pope to undermine the values of the United States, so that a papal army could land in America and found a new Vatican in Cincinnati.


20th Century

1. Agent theory: Adolf Hitler’s actions were guided by the economy.


2. HIV/AIDS denialism: Allegedly there is no causal connection between HIV viruses and the immunodeficiency disease AIDS.


3. AIDS from the US laboratory: HIV is said to have been developed by the US and been exposed or escaped.


73. AIDS is attributed to the species of monkey Chlorocebus, which were abused by irresponsible and deviant people through sodomistic actions, which enabled the transmission of the immunodeficiency epidemic to humans on Earth.

74, However, the plague already existed on Earth 11,000 years ago in the case of the Chlorocebus, whereby in later millennia the plague was transmitted on the chimpanzee subspecies “Pan troglodytes troglodytes” (Note: central chimpanzee).

4. Amero: The governments of Canada, the United States and Mexico are said to be planning a North American monetary union.


5. Area 51: The facility deals or communicates with extraterrestrial life forms.


6 . Doctors’ Plot: Soviet Union physicians allegedly planned attacks on high-ranking representatives of their country; see also Rooted Cosmopolitan.


7. Assassination of Martin Luther King: The assassination of Martin Luther King was carried out or planned by the US government.


8. Nijvel Gang conspiracy: The attacks carried out by the Nijvel Gang were a preventive strike against communism in Western Europe.


9. Barschel affair: Former Prime Minister Uwe Barschel was found dead after an unusually tough election campaign against his rival.

80. TRUE

10. Bilderberg conference: The participants of the Bilderberg conference are said to be planning a world dictatorship or are the masterminds behind events steeped in history, such as the Iraq war.


83. The Bilderberger conferences are not aimed at a world dictatorship, but at economic, political, military and secret service planning and machinations that are absolutely informal and are described as private and, as far as possible, kept secret.

84. The meetings bring together influential people from business, military, politics, media, academia, universities, high nobility, secret services and Christian churches.

85. At the conferences, they exchange views on current political, economic and social issues, as well as make decisions on political, military, intelligence, economic and Christian-religious leadership, etc. – some of which will be detrimental to the populations of the countries concerned – but also on the population and the economy of the countries concerned, etc.

86. The conference was initiated in May 1954 at the invitation of Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands.

87. At that time, the conference was held at his own hotel “de Bilderberg” in Oosterbeek in the Netherlands, after which the name Bilderberg was adopted for these conferences.

88. The original and first reason for the first meeting was based on the fear that Western Europe and North America would not cooperate as closely as they urgently needed.

89. At least at that time this was the opinion, which has apparently been preserved to this day, that secret decisions are being thought up and made again and again, which are also directed against Russia, among other things.

90. And since everything is secret, the’ Bilderbergers’ are surrounded by various conspiracy theories.

11. Chemtrails: Condensation trails allegedly contain chemicals that affect the population.


92. Condensation trails are visible long white stripes, which are caused by water vapor and other exhaust gases, especially in the wake of aircraft. These white stripes are formed especially behind high-flying jet planes when the humidity in the aircraft exhaust gases condenses.

93. These long “strip clouds” or condensation trails have nothing to do with the conspiracy theory regarding “chemtrails,” which are also referred to as “chemical strips,” “poison strips” or “toxic clouds,” and which are intended to correspond to the deliberate release of chemicals into the atmosphere.

94. According to the nonsensical conspiracy theory, airplanes are said to spray chemicals on behalf of states in order to change the weather and climate, poison people or otherwise influence world events, which is nothing more than absolute nonsense.

12. Chronology criticism: Certain sections of the historiography or calendar were erroneous or deliberately falsified.


13. Chronovisor: The Vatican is or was allegedly in possession of a time machine.


14. Stab-in-the-back myth: The defeat of the German military in World War I was caused by opposition civilians.


15. Estonia conspiracy: Estonia’s demise was the result of an assassination attempt.


16. Rumor of Orléans: In the French city of Orléans, 28 young women were allegedly kidnapped and forced into prostitution.


17. Greater Israel conspiracy: According to the doctrine, Israel plans to extend Jewish sovereignty to the entire area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.

100. FALSE

18. GSG-9 mission in Bad Kleinen: The GSG-9 mission in Bad Kleinen, in which the RAF terrorist Wolfgang Grams was killed, gave rise to numerous conspiracy theories.

101. FALSE

102. All conspiracy theories regarding this have no truth content.

19. HAARP conspiracy: The US-American research program HAARP is said to have been used to manipulate thoughts or to artificially induce natural disasters.

103. FALSE

104. TRUE is however:

105. The HAARP can have many harmful effects on living beings through vibrations, cause electromagnetic and weather-related disturbances, bring military benefits in a variety of ways, as well as negative atmospheric influences, but in absolutely no way manipulate thoughts.

106. The large antenna system of HAARP shoots energy rays at the sky, which are reflected back by the ionosphere as electric waves of an extremely low frequency (ELF), whereby these waves can then be transformed into an insidious weapon, which is officially denied however.

20. Holocaust denial: The National Socialists’ Holocaust never existed.

107. FALSE

21. Aerolinee Itavia Flight 870 conspiracy: The plane was shot down by French or US planes, all the passengers died. The unknown attackers allegedly assumed that the plane was an aircraft in which Muammar al-Gaddafi was traveling.

108. FALSE

22. Mount Yamantau conspiracy: Russian mountain Yamantau is said to have a gigantic underground complex that is being used for military purposes.

109. FALSE

23. Assassination of John F. Kennedy: The assassination is not the work of a single perpetrator but of a conspiracy; the mafia, the CIA or Fidel Castro are postulated as its mastermind.

110. TRUE

111. Harvey Oswald, who was under the influence of several groups, was not the direct assassin but only one of three other men who were controlled by an interest group involving the CIA, the FBI, the Mafia, a pro-Cuban group, oil barons and the military-industrial complex.

24. Alternative theories for Korean Air Lines flight 007: An aircraft, which was accidentally shot down by the Soviet Union, was classified as a threat according to official information. Theories say that Soviet air traffic control should be tested. Other assumptions suggest that survivors of the accident are imprisoned.

112. FALSE

25. Leningrad affair: Supporters of the Leningrad party system of CPSU were allegedly involved in criminal machinations.

113. FALSE

26. Phantom time hypothesis: Larger periods of medieval history were invented.

114. FALSE

27. Death of John Paul I: John Paul I had been poisoned because he probably wanted to uncover the Vatican’s internal machinations.

115. TRUE

116. John Paul I died of poisoning, causing the heart to stop functioning, which then gave the impression of heart failure.

117. He was murdered because he shocked the noble rule of the Vatican and because his behavior and way of life in the Vatican provoked an impulse.

28. Lusitania conspiracy: The sinking of the ship by a German submarine is said to have been deliberately brought about in order to stir up resentment against Germany towards the US population.

118. FALSE

29. Majestic 12 Committee: The US Secret Committee is concerned with the work of UFOs and extraterrestrials.

119. FALSE

30. Men in Black: Secret US government officials dressed in black ensure that mysterious sightings do not produce testimonies.

120. FALSE

121. Men in Black’ have nothing to do with US government officials, because this is a pure fantasy, unlike the’ Black Men’ who belonged to a group of people who were anxious to destroy the FIGU mission, including assassination attempt at that.

31. Moon landing conspiracy theories: NASA allegedly never landed on the moon between 1969 and 1972, and it was only faked.

122. FALSE

123. Apart from the allegedly first moon landing of Apollo 11 in 1969, which was fraudulently staged on Earth as a “real moon landing” and in the execution of which the participants were hypnotized and deceived, all other moon flights and moon landings actually took place.

124. The first and fraudulent and alleged lunar expedition, which was broadcast worldwide by television, was carried out for political reasons in order to put Russia behind the USA in terms of space technology and so-called space travel.

32. Death of Marilyn Monroe: Marilyn Monroe is said to have been killed by an American secret service because she had an affair with John F. Kennedy.

125. FALSE

126. Marilyn Monroe was murdered by Monroe psychiatrist and therapist Dr. Ralph Greenson on behalf of the brothers John Fitzgerald and Robert Kennedy in the night from August 4 to 5,1962, with an injection of chloral hydrate into the anus, which is why a puncture wound was not found anywhere on the body.

33. Montauk Project: In the Montauk project, the US military tried to control or influence the thoughts of civilians between 1970 and 1990.

127. FALSE

34. Elvis Presley’s afterlife: Elvis Presley did not die in 1977, but continued to live under exclusion of the public.

128. FALSE

35.New world order: Secret societies allegedly attempt to seize world domination.

129. FALSE

130. In modern times from 1844 onwards, there was no known or unknown organization apart from the USA and Hitler that tried to seize world domination.

131. Even today, apart from the USA, there is no state and no secret or well-known organization that claims world power.

36. Oklahoma Connection: The bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was supported by Islamists.

132. FALSE

37. Paul is dead: Paul McCartney of The Beatles died in 1966 and was then replaced by a doppelganger.

133. FALSE

38. Attack on Pearl Harbor: The US government or the US military allegedly knew about the imminent attack on Pearl Harbor, but did nothing, in order to be able to lead a public cause of war.

From the translator: “So in whole, the sentence states that the US knew about the attack, but they decided not to do anything to prevent it, so that they would be able to give the public a reason to justify a war (and therefore push forward their own hidden agenda).”

134. FALSE

39. Philadelphia Experiment: A US military experiment allegedly led to the disappearance of a warship and its teleportation to another location.

135. FALSE

136. Such an experiment has never been carried out in the United States or anywhere else on Earth.

137. A book writer by the name of Berlitz only wrote a fantastical story in this regard, based on the fraudulent allegations of a man named Kal Allen.

40. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion: The protocols pretend to be secret documents of Jewish world conspirators.

138. FALSE

41. Coup d’état against the government of Mossadegh: The coup against the Iranian government of Mossadegh was long regarded as a conspiracy theory until it was admitted by the US government in 2013 (Operation Ajax).

139. TRUE

42. Nazi UFOs: The Third Reich owned a futuristic aircraft.

140. TRUE

141. The Nazi Reich developed disc-shaped aircraft that went around 2000 km/h (1243 mph) and reached an altitude of over 12500 meters (1.24 miles).

142. These flying discs, however, were single-wing aircraft of a completely different nature than normal winged aircraft.

43. Reichsbürgerbewegung: The German Reich continues to exist legally to this day, whereas the Federal Republic of Germany is illegal. A provisional Reich government would exercise jurisdiction over the German Reich within the borders of 1937.

143. FALSE

44. Reptiloids: Reptiloids are human-like intelligent beings derived from reptiles or reptilian extraterrestrials. They had infiltrated the earth and were part of a secret pyramid-like organizational structure.

144. FALSE

45. Roswell UFO incident: A UFO crashed in Roswell, New Mexico.

145. TRUE

146. This crash actually took place, but for state security reasons it was declared a state secret, as a result of which all facts, reports, records and factual reports were locked up and largely lost over the decades.

46. Black Volga: Between 1960 and 1980, occupants of a black car of the brand Volga are said to have abducted and tortured children after they had asked about the time of day.

147. FALSE

47. Controversy over the seal of the United States: The seal refers to the Illuminati.

148. FALSE

48. Conspiracy for the murder of Robert F. Kennedy: The murder of the US Senator Robert F. Kennedy shows some inconsistencies with respect to the alleged perpetrator Sirhan Sirhan.

149. TRUE

150. There are indeed some inconsistencies in relation to the person of Sirhan Sirhan as a result of careless investigations, but it is undoubtedly clear that he was the true perpetrator.

49. Support of the Bolsheviks by the economy of the German Empire: The Sisson documents allegedly prove that the German Empire supported Russian revolutionaries financially.

151. TRUE

152. For years the Empire supported the Bolsheviks with money, weapons and logistics.

50. Skull & Bones: The student fraternity is not only concerned with occultism and Satanism, but also has contacts with the CIA.

153. FALSE

51. Slav Legend: Slavs in the east of today’s Germany were supposedly Germans from the Middle Ages onwards who decided against Christianization.

154. FALSE

52. Order of the Solar Temple conspiracy: The radical organization of the Sun Templars was allegedly infiltrated by right-wing extremism.

155. FALSE

53. Death of Lady Di: The accident that led to Diana’s death was caused by the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6).

156. FALSE

54. 1999 Russian apartment bombings: The perpetrator of the bomb attacks is unclear and leaves room for speculation.

157. FALSE

158. The bomb attacks were the work of the Russian secret service FSB.

55. Sinking of the RMS Titanic: Allegedly not the Titanic, but her sister ship Olympic sank.

159. FALSE

56. Vril Society: The Vril Society was able to revive National Socialism with supernatural methods.

160. FALSE

57. Fire at the Waco siege: The FBI was responsible for a fire caused during the siege of a Branch Davidians compound. The fire killed a double-digit number of people, including children.

161. FALSE

58. Tupac Shakur’s death: Tupac Shakur is said to have been killed by the US government; alternatively, his death is only faked.

162. FALSE

59. Zionist Occupied Government: A right-wing extremist conspiracy theory states that all important government posts are occupied by Jews.

163. FALSE

21st Century

1. 9/11 conspiracy theories: The terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 are alleged to have been either knowingly allowed by US intelligence agencies or executed by the US secret services themselves.

164. FALSE

165. The US president and secret services had only speculations and vague statements about imminent attacks on the US by anti-American Islamic terrorists, but had no knowledge of how, when and where they would take place.

2. MASCAL conspiracy: In 2000, an exercise called Project MASCAL dealt with the accident in which a plane crashed into the Pentagon. One of the participants then worked for American Airlines.

166. FALSE*

3. Death of Jürgen Möllemann: It is not proven whether the politician killed himself, but there was also speculation about a murder. 167. FALSE

168. Jürgen Möllemann committed suicide.

4. Conspiracy theories on the 2004 Madrid train bombings: The Basque terrorist organization ETA is said to be behind the attacks.

169. FALSE

170. The train attacks in the Spanish capital Madrid were attributed to Islamic terrorist acts.

5. Death of Jörg Haider: The Austrian politician is said to have been murdered.

171. FALSE

6. 2016 Turkish coup d’état attempt: One theory says that the Gülen movement and the “Deep State” carried out the coup attempt.

172. FALSE

Another theory says that the coup attempt was staged by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

173. TRUE

174. This, Eduard, is so far as the facts that penta

and I have been able to find with regard to the conspiracy theories listed in the list for the period from the 12th to the 21st century.

Billy This is more than I expected, and besides, many of these conspiracy theories were unknown to me, not even that there have been conspiracy theories dating back to the 12th century. Only by a reference over the phone did I become acquainted with the fact of this list.


175.We never talked about old conspiracy theories either.

Billy We didn’t, no. And now, as I said, I have only found the list because someone told me something about it.



*16 Years Later – It WAS a  Plane

Recently released photos appear to corroborate what Billy Meier was told by the Plejaren regarding the object that crashed into the Pentagon. It was a plane.

Some people were very upset by what Meier said, to the point that they thought it brought the whole case into question. While the more conspiratorial approach was


Thanks to Stefan Mitterdorfer for the translation.




188 comments on “True or False? 79 Conspiracy Theories

  • I think this topic sucks, that’s my opinion. Is there a part 2 to this topic that actually has a link to it or at the least a report from the contacts?

    • Why such the sour attitude, Darcy? Based on Billy’s, Ptaah’s and Michael’s track record and MMO, I’m confident that this information is factual and free from intentional errors. Like many other things with the Plejaren, you must look at the information in a purely logical mindset. I’m sure Michael will give us more details when they become available—patience my friend.

        • A believer of what, Darcy? I don’t believe or blindly follow anything. I do tons of research on everything that interests me. If I find that someone has evidence to support their claim, I dig deeper. You don’t have to insult or become defensive just because I asked you a question. A simple answer to the question would have been the logical response.

          • The best evidence Billy Meier has is his knowing how to use the creative natural laws in ways no other knows. The problem is however he’s too modest and sincere. So I don’t even associate Billy Meier with the ufolology community or the paranormal community either because of these qualities he has. Yet he is more qualified to form a really profound controversy than any other, yet doesn’t get the air-time everyone else gets as I said because he’s not loud enough. Also he gets angry when individuals talk good and positively about him too because he doesn’t want to be like an entertainer or and idol or zoo animal etc. Hearing Michael Horn on the Radio is an absolute treat for the North American audiences, which I know many appreciate.

      • Hello Melissa,
        if you’re into the controversial subjects they’ve already laid them all out a long time ago and in fair detail too. These controversies listed are the man-made weak ideas as Darcy say’s, compared against the really far reaching ‘controversies’ that Ptaah, Quetzal and Semjase have revealed which appear in reality normally but which have not been discovered yet by man. We’re just procrastinating our way around and into wider audiences as a community as well as blocking off the path to the weak ideas, you need not wait, its all already written down. As Billy said “besides [that], many of these conspiracy theories were unknown to me [having explored most of them already]”

      • Not that I agree with the topic sucks but conspiracy theories are rabbit holes, much like politics. Then again, my personal interest has even lost touch with UFOs as well. The wealth of knowledge Eduard puts in his spirit teaching books is exceptional and in my opinion, dwarves everything else.

    • That’s not really a conspiracy theory. It’s more like just a simple evaluation of character.

      I watched that woman cackle at the deaths her administration had caused. It was played up like typical American entertainment, but a moment to think about it, if you or I were indirectly or directly responsible for the deaths of thousands or hundreds or even dozens or even a SINGLE human in order to catch some boogey criminal … well, could you or I sit on television and cackle like it was just another day at the golf course?

      Damn man, if I even post too much truth information in the ‘net, I lose sleep at night afraid that the people who might find it are not ready for the truth yet.

      And Obama also went totally grey-haired during his time in presidency.

      The fact that Hillary Clinton still looks like a pretty posey (well, not really beautiful, but still not showing too many signs of stress-aging) despite all her errors and the crimes against humanity she has either indirectly or directly been responsible for … or signed off or simply advocated or whatever …. I just invite you to look at the discussion between Billy and Ptaah on the qualifying unvalues of a psychopath.

  • Hello Michael Horn, please forgive me that I am off topic here but I have felt the urge to share this with you! I have recently come apon this video by the title of – “Effects from Alien Remote Viewing Plejaren, Semjase.” on YouTube uploaded by the user who goes by the name of “Rick Maarhuis” who degenerately and rudely claims to have “hooked up” (as awful and perverted as it sounds) with Semjase for contact spiritually, as a matter of fact it would be better if everyone on this blog including you yourself Michael to take a look at and report this video uploaded by Rick and others I’ve also added below. This video is just awful and also there is a rediculous claim within the comment section on this video (“Effects from Alien Remote Viewing Plejaren, Semjase.”) posted by the user of the name “Vrendus522” that is just downright unbelievably delusional and so on, my oh my wait until you see it. And I would like add that there are 2 remote viewing videos uploaded by the “Edward Riordan” conducting UNAUTHORIZED remote viewing experiments/targets into Meier’s contact meetings WITHOUT ANY consent/permission from you yourself Michael, the FIGU community and Eduard whatsoever! And my final link for this concern of Rob Potter’s erroneous imaginary claim about himself and Fred Bell having contact experiences with Semjase. This is an unbelievable and pitiful disgrace! Links below! I feel that I have an obligation to inform you Mr. Horn and FIGU to the concerns of these types of individuals.

    Link 1: “Effects from Alien Remote Viewing Plejaren, Semjase.” –

    Link 2: “Remote Viewing Session: Billy Meier UFO” –

    Link 3: “Remote Viewing Session: Alleged Energy Weapon, Billy Meier UFO” -

    Link 4: “With Rob Potter(part 1/3)- Dr.Fred Bell, Billy Meier, Semjase, space ships;” –

    • Hi Jason,

      There’s a book with a title something (or exactly) like “What You Think of Me Is None of My Business”.

      People are free to do what they want. I’ll approve these two posts, however, I’ll ask you to not post links to all the nonsense that’s online, like about fake contactees, remote viewing stuff, etc. It is off-topic and doesn’t warrant discussion.

  • It seems at least im not the only one wondering about the info in this post. I remember Michael Horn himself saying in a video that the german nazi’s in ww2 developed a true ufo. a magnetic implosion device. Do you remember saying that in a video Mr. Horn. i can and am wondering why you did not elaborate that in this post. Is it not listed becuase it would take to much time to list every little detail. Also there does seem to be a plan by political/ religous globalists like george soros to flood western countries with third world refugees. He may be a radical zionist like billy meier warned of . A type of religous radical . The average isralei doesnt want to destroy europe or the west. But radicals like george soros are another story, isnt that what billy meier mentioned in his notes? Doesnt it seem george soros and his open border freinds are trying to have third worlders pick up and leave the middle east altogether and go to europe , U.S. etc. And at the same time I read how Rabbi’s are saying publicly , europe is lost and our people should move to israel. It’s like a radical zionist plan to expand israels influence and borders around israel by sending their muslim neighbors to europe, U.S , Canada etc. Radicals like george soros are dangerous but regualr , everyday jewish people are good. Isnt that what is said in the notes somewhere?

  • It’s good that the P’s cleared up some of these conspiracy theories (even if I do not agree with 9/11 WTC7 being left out). I appreciate it and hope they would do more.

    • The primary attack targets were the WTC and the Pentagon, which were hit by the planes. Building7 wasn’t, to the best of my knowledge.

      As is almost always the case, the Plejaren pretty much stick to answer the direct question directly, only occasionally adding more information if it’s extremely relevant to the answer.

      • MH, conspiracy theorists say that WTC7 is the smoking gun that 9/11 was an inside job. Even if WTC 1&2 and the Pentagon was caused by terrorists/planes but WTC7 was brought down by the US government, CIA, ect, then part of 9/11 should be regarded as an inside job because WTC7 was part of 9/11. That’s why I feel the question should be asked to Billy or the P’s “what brought down WTC7”.

    • Don’t you think them answering more of these conspiracy theories is pretty much a waste of time? What benefit does it give you in the longrun, really? I stick to the opinion that this was a gracious, unnecessary gesture on their part. Heck, even a question about Tupac got shoved in there. Gracious imo.

  • Like a few others here, I find some of Ptaah’s answers in this entry confusing and at odds with prior contact information. In a few areas, namely answers re things Kennedy, I find the responses rather incredible. (Disclosure: having studied both men considerably over the years, I find both rank very high in my estimation both as public servants and as ethical human beings.)

    On the RFK assassination: Sirhan was shooting, but did not fire the fatal shot; impossible from where he was standing, thus he could not be the sole perpetrator. Strong evidence also suggests he was under hypnotic influence that night. Strange, but that’s where the evidence leads.

    Re the JFK assassination: It’s false and ridiculous to state a “pro-Cuban group” was involved, if that means pro-Castro. No such groups would have been in league with entities like the CIA and FBI and military, all very hostile to Castro. Was “pro-Cuban” intended to mean “anti-Castro Cuban exiles”? That would make more sense. Most of them hated Kennedy from the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

    Re Hitler: Wouldn’t the more important conspiracy theory to address, out there for many years, have been whether he and Eva and a small inner circle were allowed by our security services (OSS) to escape from Berlin? When you read the actual record, far more evidence suggests a successful escape to South America than the scant and suspect evidence — mostly from Hitler loyalists with strong motives to lie — suggesting he died in the bunker. See for instance the intriguing book Gray Wolf, by Gerrard Williams.

    Would Ptaah be willing to stop by at this site for a Q & A session to clarify some of these matters?

    • Again, our study of public figures may be only partially correct because we may not be, in fact most certainly are not, in the possession of the full facts of their very carefully protected, often rewritten lives.

      If Sirhan was “under hypnotic influence” and still shot RFK, then the answer seems correct…absent actual proof to the contrary.

      The Plejaren long ago confirmed that Hitler and Eva died in the bunker. Let’s remember that he was addressing a number of “conspiracy theories”. We are free to accept or reject his viewpoint…but relying on conspiracy theories – which by definition are NOT proven facts – isn’t productive.

      • RFK: “but it is undoubtedly clear that he was the true perpetrator.” This implies he was the proximate cause for Kennedy’s death, the one who fired the fatal shot. Again, he was shooting, but none of the witnesses in the pantry (dozens) put him close enough to RFK or in the right position. The coroner conclusively concluded Kennedy died as a result of a shot from contact/near contact range (2 inches at most) behind the right ear. Sirhan was off to the side 6-8 feet away when firing, facing Kennedy to his right. No witness stated his gun was extended closer than 3 feet from the victim — impossible to shoot him behind the right ear from his front/side position. Autopsy professionally done — confirmed as such by an outside expert brought in (Dr Cyril Wecht) by the LA coroner to avoid any doubts like those which occurred in the JFK autopsy.

        Sorry, but I disagree w/Ptaah here, based on the known facts, and I hope Ptaah doesn’t take it personally.

        Ditto for the Hitler bunker theory, again based on established fact not speculation, as detailed in the Gray Wolf book I cited. The evidence for Hitler and Eva suicide is actually very weak once all facts are considered, and as there is no physical evidence, we are left to rely on his loyalists’ testimony. I don’t find Nazis and the SS very credible and they all had a strong motive to lie as Hitler and entourage escaped. Eisenhower, Stalin and his military adviser, our FBI director and Truman’s top military aide also believed he got out of Berlin. The rather thin book quickly written by Hugh Trevor-Roper, a young MI6 officer who spoke no German, was very short on facts but long on a desire to convince the public of the suicide story, and it was sold rather effectively. HT-R, btw, also believed in the authenticity of the so-called Hitler Diaries of the early 80s, an embarrassing hoax he endorsed as fact.

        No doubt the Plejaren and Billy have an outstanding track record in predictions/prophecies, but as they themselves acknowledge, they sometimes make mistakes. I’m putting a few of these conspiracy answers into the 1-2% of material in this case which I reserve judgment on pending further clarification from the Ps.

        • Well, it’s entirely possible Adolf could have escaped but chose not to and accept the fate that he felt destined to live in the end to. After all, the Bafath, which you’re not going to find in any book detailing the life of Adolf Hitler, influenced the man in such a way he became a world craving man that would lead to the destruction of Germany. Even to the very end the man was unwavering until all hope was lost.

          Also, one must also consider the roving science lab experiments we call “foo fighters” or U-F-Ohs didn’t win Hitler’s war in the end.

          • Never hurts to ask. Plus I figured Ptaah might get the occasional few hours off, maybe on a weekend, and decide to pay us a visit here.

            Anyway thx to Michael for bringing the prior Hitler bunker info to me, which I wasn’t aware of. In MH’s honor as an excellent rep for this case, and in honor of Billy, Ptaah and his colleagues, I’m going to move the Hitler suicide case from my Escaped box into my ? box.

          • You can also consider a possible confusion of Hitler with one of his dopplegangers. IF there is any evidence of someone escaping the fuhrer bunker that’s also a possibility that people largely forget about or don’t consider. It’s like when someone mentions thermite they toss everything else out and become distracted. Or, if they focus on trails on a plane they throw everything else out about the atmosphere and the junk we’ve polluted over the last century.

            It’s harder today to see things for what they are as someone is telling you the truth from speculation rather than let the evidence speak for itself. I also mention UF-Ohs as folks generally are interested in such a curious piece of technology without realizing such a device in the context of WW2 did, quite frankly, nothing to win Adolf’s war. Additionally, if what the P’s say is correct (in that they had to correct their mistake and remove their impulses for the type of craft they though would bring world peace) then the craft people are curious over is really a lemon.

            One of Hitler’s dopplegangers:

  • Ptaah’s clarifications are sufficient I would say, they were matter of fact, so about 87% of the “officially known conspiracy theory” are false. What are unofficial conspiracy theories?

    Ptaah 175.We never talked about old conspiracy theories either.

    My theory respectively on the “old conspiracy theories”…are perhaps in reference to past Epoch’s conspiracy theories in older star systems.

  • the conspiracies of our time, small time window, then a new folk will rise up and into the new arrangement of conspiracies after the genetics have changed back and the space age started, hotels on asteroids etc. They will have a different arrangement of variety in their conspiracies than we have in ours. I suppose if we were brutally critical of ourselves we could call our conspiracies basic compared to theirs but we should not be so harsh on ourselves we are just working with the arrangement of events characteristic of our time.

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