Clueless skeptics defeated by 50-year-old UFO evidence

My friend Joe tracked me down in during my recent travels. That’s Joe, the former top US Air Force OSI Case Supervisor, from 1965 – 1971. During this time, Joe personally supervised hundreds of investigations, vetting extremely high level people seeking even higher office, who could attain positions dealing with critical situations regarding issues of national security, etc. Joe led investigations into every aspect of their lives, going back to their childhoods, in many cases.

It’s 1964 All Over Again

Joe used the same, rigorous standards of military investigation, examination and analysis of the 1964 evidence, and about the primary eyewitness, retired UN diplomat, Phobol Cheng, to determine the ironclad nature and singular authenticity of the Billy Meier UFO case,

Joe’d just had a rather heated conversation with our friend Mahesh, the “I-don’t-know-what-I’m-talking-about” skeptic from India, who’s attacked the Meier case for the past few years. He’d had previous conversations with him but today it didn’t go terribly well… at least for Mahesh.

The amateurish, inept skeptic was unable to  refute the historical record of Billy Meier’s 1964 UFO photographic evidence, as established by one of the most well-respected reporters of a highly reputable Indian newspaper.


When Joe asked Mahesh to credibly explain just how Meier, a 27-year-old hitchhiking traveler in India at the time, had 80 UFO photographs in his possession, Mahesh told him “mumbo-jumbo” about Meier having some kind of a “special camera”. I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that the only thing special about 1940s Kodak bellow type cameras was that they worked well enough to take very basic, black and white photos.

Means, Motive and Opportunity

As Joe tried to explain, the importance of determining means, motive and opportunity is a fundamental element of consideration for doing a credible investigation of anyone under suspicion of a crime, hoax, dishonest behavior, etc.

This of course has gone far above the heads of Mahesh and every other skeptic, amateur or professional, who’s come forward to try to put a notch in their proverbial gun. A complete lack of comprehension of the facts, and a strict avoidance of dealing with them, only compounds their utterly futile attempts to take down the unimpeachable Billy Meier case.

Stone Silence

It’s also no coincidence that skeptics who’ve attacked the Meier case have all gone absolutely stone silent in the face of Joe’s refocusing on the 1964 evidence, clinging only to their already discredited, irrelevant and unsubstantiated theories.

Even Joe agrees that no “authority” is necessary in order for any reasonable person to come to the same irrefutable conclusions that he did, simply based on a logical and objective analysis of the 1964 evidence.

See also:

Billy Meier UFO Case: Beyond a Reasonable Doubt

UFO Proof & Evidence

Special Evidence

Quik-Clik Overview

Rahl Zahi’s Analysis Report on the WCUFO

Rahl Zahi’s Analysis Report on the Pendulum UFO

Rhal Zahi and Chris Lock’s Analysis on The Energy Ships

Scientific Experts’ Comments on Meier’s UFO Evidence

Documentation from IBM on Marcel Vogel’s Patents

Analysis of Meier’s ET UFO Photographs

Report on UFO Sound Recordings



82 comments on “It’s 1964 All Over Again

  • I just heard George on C2C push this UFOs expert on Billy. I mean he really pushed Billy in his face. He supported MH in a very postive way. Still would like to see the tv show that they filmed. Well it was good to hear him do so. Salome Robert.

  • It was last nights show in about the end of the first hr of the show. George even challenged him to debate you MH. I could not beleave what I was hearing. Of course the ufo expert, declined to do so. But wow, George really pushed him on it. That is such good news. It maybe be me but as George kept interviewing this ufo expert. He seemed to be making fun of him. Ok very well and good. Salome Robert.

  • Hi Michael
    I am from chennai india .I happened to read Meir material for the past six years and I am really thankful that these ET s are giving us so much information especially contact report 251. Wow! You may think people are sceptical about the Meir case but equally there are number of people believe his case is true.
    The ET s also mention about China attacking India
    Did Meir mention anyrime when this would be and what would be the fate of this country.
    thanks and regards
    Shiva Balu

  • Regarding Billy Meiers explanations about incarnation. Have any of you ever seen the phenomena where a notable thug is somehow mixed into the hoard of regular thug, such as say eminem the talkist. Considerably more notable than his peers which is a particularly generous compliment. Has anyone looked at incarnation, racial mixing and multicultural societies from what the Plejaren have said.

    • Daniel, Eminem isn’t a thug. Perhaps he portrayed a rather exaggerated caricature version when he was younger in order to conform to the publics appetite for rebellious angst. But I can obviously see his lyrical technical abilities can make some uneasy.

  • Shiva Balu,

    I don’t think Meier mentioned a specific time-table for that, and I always thought what was mentioned was possible future conflict between India and Pakistan?

    Be strong, and be personally prepared for anything to happen (positive or negative), and remain neutral at all times, even to the good people of China, who are also human beings just like you, although a very different Earth culture.~

    You could always try to neutrally let your leaders neutrally know for true (lasting) peace with China (and Pakistan?), even if some sides have deep concessions.~

  • Shiva, one more comment, I recommend reading the Goblet of the Truth, this book could put down all war if the right people were reading it.~

  • All war = all the wrong kind of war not gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit [forced forcelessness] related to disarm war, and banish the prisoners.~

  • The Coast to Coast AM YouTube link that I had posted is for some reason no longer available. Here is another YouTube link to the very same Nick Pope interview:

  • Why do we waste our time with people like Mehesh, you said in one word Mike…CLUELESS!!!!
    I can identify with how Joe felt dealing with this guy, I deal with it on a daily basis.

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