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This Circle in the Middle

Why I have no respect for your beliefs and hope you feel the same way about mine

To be honest, all of the myriad religions, and their believers, claim that theirs is the one true religion. As others have also pointed out, this makes them all wrong and untrue.

As I have said to people in person, and I will repeat here, I have absolutely no respect for yours or anyoneโ€™s beliefs, religion, etc. And, as I have also said, I hope people feel the same way about mine, should they discover that I have any.

What I respect are human beings who do their best to live by eternally valid, higher principles and values in life, such as peace, love, freedom, harmony, wisdom, understanding, compassion, etc. I respect people who seek and treasure the truth above all beliefs.

Peopleโ€™s beliefs also change. So, why should I waste a moment of my time working up โ€œrespectโ€ for any beliefs, when in a moment of whimsy, or deep thought, someone changes their beliefs, now requiring me to get allโ€ฆ respectful about their new ones?

I certainly do respect each and every personโ€™s right to believe whatever they want.

But I do abhor the fact that we overindulge and try to assert such things, which are often rife with hypocrisy, in the secular (and rational) realm, pushing people to become submissive so that these beliefs can dominate social and political processes and institutions.

As I have also pointed out before, every religion rests on the patently childish and inadmissible premise that, โ€œWhatโ€™s in this book is trueโ€ฆ because this book says itโ€™s true.โ€ You canโ€™t bring that absurdity into a court of lawโ€ฆlet alone into a kindergarten.

Nonetheless, weโ€™ve become so defensive, thin-skinned, and sensitive about our precious little beliefs, that the vice-president of the United States, pandering to his primary constituency, feels it necessary to publicly rebuke rebuke talk show host, Joy Behar, for her politically/religiously incorrect utterances. Of course, when we are pointed to a scientific study that shows a correlation between religious fundamentalism and being wacky, thereโ€™s a bit of dissonance.

Itโ€™s hard to think of other times when the opinion of someone on the equally wacky, self-righteous left had some actual scientific support behind it.

Some of the worst hypocrites are either members of the various clergy and/or outspoken proponents of different religions. These are the people who say they really respect other peopleโ€™s religious views, which is obviously an odious lie, or they themselves would hold those same beliefs.

Expressing false respect is a devious way to try to create some kind of an advantage, a twisted path to get people to feel good and/or compliant, and thereby get agreement, which they feel (probably correctly) wouldnโ€™t succeed if they simply had the honesty to say they didnโ€™t respect the other persons beliefs.

Trying to assert any kind of moral authority over one another is a pretty pathetic and counterproductive way to communicate. When we are living a truly higher-value based life, however we have come to those values, then we can have true fellowship, communication and cooperation.

With friends of mine who indeed are religious, we sometimes discuss just how and why we do seem to have solid agreement on a number of important things when ourโ€ฆcosmologies, as I refer to them, are so different.

I illustrate the answer by making circles with the thumb and ring finger on each hand. These, I say, represent our respective cosmologies. Then I bring my hands together so that one circle partially overlaps the other. ย โ€œThis circle in the middle, where our common values overlap,โ€ I say, โ€œis the reason. Everything else is far less important.โ€

 

 

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Jedaiah Ramnarine

Thank you for sharing that wisdom Mike. Insightful post.

Armando Morales

Thanks…

Terry Carch

Thankyou Michael for your wonderful words of wisdom. I totally agree with you 100% The only problems is that Billy said we can`t change the opinion of others who believe such odious horrific stupid religions who are so stubbornly tong tied to their devout religions beliefs. Why are most holidays tied to such religious and patriotic ideals and the military industrail complex such as Memorial Day,July 4rth, Armistice Day Nov 11th which Trump wants to have a military parade! If Trump is not a Globoalist,why is Trump acting like a Bloboalist?

Ned Duke

To their own shore came the world war, leading the nations of the west. Under fire, under water will Earth Humanity fail the test?

Mike Basal

Thank you Michael, thank you.

Arnoud Schutte

Nicely put Michael. As I commented on a recent youtube video, I believe the video of your latest(?) public presentation in Feb or March this year (I forgot where it was), it would be so great if everybody would be able to restore the ability to recognize the absolute truth when he/she sees/hears/touches it. I think the majority of the population lost this ability a long time ago. Some of us might already have it restored (hopefully), but only a few I would guess. Even I myself, am still working on this (because of all the evidence on the Meier case, I choose to take the teachings and the Natural Creational Truth as the absolute truth, until, hopingly very soon, it would not have to be by choice anymore, and may be I’m almost there, I really don’t know). All the fears, the mis- and disinformation we have been force-fed on such an enormous scale for such a long time, clouding, no, ruining our ability to think, and feel and perceive clearly, and, for ourselves. We could throw them (these fears and lies) out of the window instantly.
Then, people will only have to get to know the Natural-Creational Truth, and the spiritual teachings, to immediately be able to accept it as the new guideline(s) for (their) life(s). Then there would still be a lot of work to be done by every individual (choose, and learn, to live according to these teachings and Creational laws and recommendations), but it would make such a difference.

Anne Williams

Aah the overlapping circle fingers ๐Ÿ™‚ Such a great illustration M – so simple and yet so logical.

If it helps to make anyone feel better about the dismal/abysmal situation here on our Earth… I was reading an excerpt of a contact today between Billy and Ptaah where they were discussing the teaching others the Spirit Teaching (to those showing interest and seeking and wanting to learn the Truth) in the Plejaren Federation. Ptaah stated (not a verbatim quote) that in the Federation there are worlds where populations also are afflicted with beliefs and that on these worlds the inhabitants are working to free themselves from this.

Of course on these worlds they are not facing the same horrors and depth of degenerate religious-belief poisoning as we are here on Earth.

I donโ€™t have the exact CR or a link right now as I only incidentally came across this while doing research on another subject. I will search for the link to the CR when I have some time if anyone would like to read for themselves – it is in in German however, on figu.org.

Salome

Terry Carch

Hi Anne a friend of mine who will remain anonymous is going through a a burnout or what is called a writers block but this friend is not a writer. She is a very gifted and talented person. I suggested she analize what she has accomplished and try to use affirmations,yoga and meditation to help her stay and think positive thoughts since she is married with twin girls so she can`t let her family down and feel bad. I think she is going through a career slump so I`v suggest she find other options i.e.interest so she can expand on her talents elsewhere. She has alot of interest and alot going for her and should not give up hope. The only hangup is her stupid fanatical blief in a god and religion. This is is her only achilles heel which is holding her back aut as Billy said you cannot intervene,you have to let events happen naturally. My question is if we have to let things happen naturally how are we going to stop people stop breeding like rabbits harmlessly and prevent the two civil wars and WW4 if we aren’t allow to intervene. Trouble is you can`t force people out of their beliefs and let them breed like rabbits since certain people believe in god,religion and breeding like rabbits(more children)the church ethics of go forth and breed like rabbits because the church says so. I know I can`t interviene or even try to influence her but if I can help her to think more positive thoughts(neutral positive thoughts) to get her mind off all those negative thoughts she might find her own niche utilizing her other interest then she and her family can survive all those ills now happening here on Earth. Parents need to set good positive examples for their children if the family wants to survive and live long happy lives. There is just too much turmoil and bad going on right now here on Earth and its only going to get worse if we don`t take good positive steps to stop all this madness and dumbing down with overpoppulation and religions driving all theses stupid wars and environmental destructions and so on on Earth. How are we going to give people other less dangerous options if we want to avoid getting killed on Earth and save Earth?

Anne Williams

Hi Terry

It sounds like you’re giving your friend very kind and loving support, and sensible advice.

You also ask a very good question:

“My question is if we have to let things happen naturally how are we going to stop people stop breeding like rabbits harmlessly and prevent the two civil wars and WW4 if we arenโ€™t allow to intervene.”

The only way that you or I (or anyone) can help fight against overpopulation, religion, belief etc., in the correct way, is to first make an in-depth study the Spiritual Teaching, and through its application in our own lives thereby gain the necessary knowledge and wisdom ourselves. This can take much time, and consistent effort. It is not easy to do, as we are not perfect beings, so it really requires dedication and work. Once we have gained the necessary wisdom and comprehension of the teachings then it is possible to really help by: “Inform but not proselityze”.

There is also a real danger of harm to ourselves and others in ‘talkativeness’ – especially if we are ourselves still very “young” (new) in the Teaching and have not yet had the necessary time (this can take years) to “digest” what we are learning as knowledge before it is transformed into true wisdom. This does not mean however that we should just remain “mum” (quiet) because we are new to the Spiritual Teaching, but only that we should use the proper caution. By this I mean we are cautioned by Billy and the FIGU CG49 to only ever speak about that which we ourselves truly understand about the Teaching, and not to “overreach” and speak about those things we have ourselves not yet mastered (in the spiritual teaching).

From http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/FIGU#TO_INFORM_BUT_NOT_PROSELYTIZE

“The fight for truth is a fight against lies, untruths and false teachings, and the battle must be fought with all conceivable means of information and instruction. FIGU provides information on all facets of truth, yet concedes each individual the right to his/her own opinion.

Neither as proselytizers nor as gatherers of “followers and believers”, we of FIGU function exclusively within a framework of information, instruction and consultation. Simultaneously, of course, we work along the lines of exposure and explanations of the truth and its delivery, be that of a secular, natural, Creative, spiritual or of a conscious nature.”

A good example of this work of fighting for the truth is right here… on They Fly Blog where Michael, and now Jedi as his helper, is helping to spread and share the information about Billy, the Plejaren and our Mission. This blog (as an example) is a platform where you, me and others can come together to ask questions, learn and share. ๐Ÿ™‚ Other examples of this same work also include the Landesgruppe and study groups of each country, alongside the FIGU Center in Switzerland.

Terry you also also stated:
“I know I can`t interviene or even try to influence her but if I can help her to think more positive thoughts(neutral positive thoughts) to get her mind off all those negative thoughts she might find her own niche utilizing her other interest then she and her family can survive all those ills now happening here on Earth.”

You have the right idea there… help her, to help herself… and you can only do this very cautiously in a non-proselityzing, non-coercive, non-manipulating manner (doing otherwise will cause harm and the exact opposite of the desired effect). So, as a suggestion, perhaps in conversations you might, in a general sense, share your own experiences, etc. with regard to how a more neutral attitude, thinking, etc. has helped you variously in your own life, and then leave it at that. This way you plant a seed, but then it is up to her to water and fertilize it, by herself, for it to grow into her own blooming flower. ๐Ÿ™‚

Salome

Katherine Whiting

Truly, we are the most shining creation of Creation’s idea. What an honour it is to be human. Such responsibility.

Seth Whitaker

Well said. The beliefs are deserving of no respect, yet the believers themselves are still due their essential respect as a human being equal to one and all.
Believers are not to be condemned. Belief is merely a step in human evolution, It must be worked through and overcome on every planet with human life. You don’t walk out of the first cave as the first ape to stand up straight and start applying logic all over the place. No, you smoke strange herbs and eat funky fungi then talk and pray to entities that aren’t there, then draw it’s picture on the cave wall for your children and then children’s children to pray to. It’s just a rather primitive step of the evolutive process.

Katherine Whiting

I wonder if my previous primate personality ate funky fungi. Probably.

Terry Carch

Or if they hunt and kill and find the monolith from the opening of the movie 2001 A Space Oddesy???

Katherine Whiting

Terry, I have to admit, that went straight over my head so I had to research it. Haha, thanks for the imagery.

Daniel Leech

Gd jk. In seriousness Katherine, the way to know (if associated with previous personality) is whether your attracted to it or not, now. Chances are, if in a previous life the personality died from say an addiction and its associated consequences or a mistaken identity with a poisonous funky fungi, then chances are you’re present personality will be inclined to avoid such smells, tastes, visual appearances. Fear of spiders, probably died from a bite. Fear of enclosed spaces, may have been trapped and died. Fear of heights, may have fallen and died. Many other deep-seat personal things we can assess about ourselves.

Daniel Leech

Nothing ever is Michael, that is what he explained. In normal businesses those that cannot handle simple explanations are left by the roadside, harsh but fair on the other passengers. In Billy Meiers community an explanation that nothing is ever completely correct and ever applicable to everything ever must be offered ever possible time… now I find that interesting

Anne Williams

One primate’s funky fungi is another one’s stinky cheese. ๐Ÿ˜‰

matt lee

Michael you said ‘I certainly do respect each and every personโ€™s right to believe whatever they want’.

Michael this statement of yours is also a contradiction comparable to the putrid religious beliefs you admonish the duplicitous religous of harbouring in the same vain as what you’ve said ‘Expressing false respect is a devious way to try to create some kind of an advantage, a twisted path to get people to feel good and/or compliant, and thereby get agreement’ in that the ‘right’ to have a belief you supposedly respect is odiously abused by the religious deemed by them an entitlement mostly at the detriment to humanity yet does not that right to have a right come with responsibility or shouldn’t it.
By default would you then respect my right to have a belief I carry to want to kill as many people as I can with a hand granade when the content of the right I exercise is abhorent and the ‘right’ I think I am entitled to to abuse it in the name of self justified entitlement.
For me I do not respect religion nor the religious to abuse their self entitled ‘right’ to believe in this putrid, disgusting, abhorent, devious, hateful, dishonourable and life disdaining ‘belief system’ in the name of ‘right’.
The nature of the ‘right’ can only be respected in accordance with how it is exercised and the value and principle that it embodies and not the right itself for the sake of ‘right’.
We tend to be victimized by the english language I think to such an extent that this language has put a strict boundary around the limits of our thinking to limited constructs that even you and I are becoming victims to its limitations.

Terry Carch

MH I totally agree whole heartedly about your thoughts on religions,etc,etc. My father used to say to me when he was alive that we should learn to resect each other and love one another no matter what they believe and learn not to hate. Even if you don`t agree with them.etc,etc.

Anne Williams

Terry, that was examplary wisdom from your father. It is the way Billy treats others as well. BEAM is the most shining example for us on how we should treat others. ๐Ÿ™‚ An excerpt from FIGU Bulletin #036:

“…and what I think about belief and those of a different faith

For my part I tolerate any faith as such, however not its injustice and inhuman degenerations that are expressed, for example, through fanaticism and rituals in bloody and murderous or suicidal forms, actions and machinations, etc. Never am I opposed to or do I despise people of a different faith for the sake of pure faith, because for me love towards my fellowmen is a very important thing, just as my reverence towards his opinion, his faith and his life is. And it doesn’t matter whether he is a Christian, Moslem, Jew, Hindu or Buddhist, or if he belongs to some sect. Thus I never turn down that which is foreign, because I have respect and reverence for it and always endeavor to understand it and to recognize its worth. The same relates exactly to every single human being, no matter whether he is a stranger or well known to me, and no matter what line of faith, political or secular line of thoughts he is following or to what level of society he belongs to. I can say with certainty that I have never been a racist nor am I willing to get involved in any such form. Besides, I conduct my thoughts and feelings in a neutral manner, which allows me to say my free and sincere opinion in every way, even if it doesn’t suit the many contemporaries when I denounce their rotten and criminal machinations by simply stating the (already) existing facts, about which no other human being dares to speak.”

http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_036

Jedaiah Ramnarine

This is very true about the English language. Look at all the arguments here lately. So much misunderstanding because we can’t express ourselves properly.

matt lee

Gee Michael working nightshift what are you doing still awake?
Man is it the case that the older you get the less sleep you get.
Thousand things going on in your mind to keep you well awake?

Daniel Leech

I respect that you have beliefs but don’t respect the beliefs themselves on a personal level ie abreast them unconditionally without first thinking for myself.

On belief and language, I found out something interesting about Sarat, ie one of the main Plejaren languages, the other night from a FIGU Forum comment. Its very similar to the so called Angelic alphabet aka Celestial alphabet by Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa and the so called Enochian script by John Dee. The Arjn language is its predecessor language of Sarat as it is German, English and several others mostly European.

It made me wonder what meier-friendly divination process was used to attain the language by those authors. A sheer guess, An education guess, Retrieval of impulses from the storage banks or the Plejaren or perhaps Bafath imparted the knowledge manually through impulses. In any case it was either impulsive or speculative reworking. What I’m sure of is that it was not Meier-retrospective because mostly for me it would be too stupid if Meier copied it. It makes more sense that Meier was given the script by extraterrestrials explicitly who told him not to alter it in any way.

Thanks.

Daniel Leech

Go to google image copy + paste “Plejaren Alphabet” into the box. Look quick but don’t click. Then remove the word Plejaren using the backspace key and type Angelic, so that the search term is now “Angelic Alphabet”, press enter, look. Now press the google home key and type the same words followed by the word ‘wiki’ so the terms are “Angelic Alphabet” “Plejaren Alphabet” “John Dee” “Heinrich Cornelius” “Sarat” “Hebrew Alphabet”

SARAH JONES

Hey Daniel are you the guy that has written a book about medieval music being modern.

Its a good read

Daniel Leech

Not me, but sounds like a good read and something I would write were I ever so slightly differently inclined. I see merit in calling music from the last 12,000 years modern given the change in the length of our lives now which is different than it has been for millions of years. I also see the merit in music from the medieval time ie a thousand years ago, not having changed much to now since then, music actually got more complicated in about the 17th and 18th century to then return now today to a very simple arrangement once more as it was a thousand years ago. But I was not the author no.

Daniel Leech

Plejaren ‘probably’ (no references/speculative) know of biological instruments ie that are grown and reach maturity or that produce sounds through the fine-material-spectrum, but the fundamental sound that is produced won’t be dramatically different than other instruments in its basic sound, same premise for the synthesizer which popped out of the 20th century, it’s basic sounds are not so different from the instruments we already had fundamentally, wind instruments or string/plucked instruments and the instruments that were developed in Asia and the abilities of the human vocal. We have the vast majority of sounds and styles available now or have experimented with them.

Greg Dougall

I agree with your writing. It is difficult to have that conversation with someone, so basically we are more likely to let the person stagnate in their beliefs until they find the truth in their own time.
https://gregdougall.wordpress.com/2017/11/26/how-do-you-tell-someone-their-religion-is-a-lie/

david gustafson

What I could find to Daniels comment looks like to be here

Tat_tvam_asi post# 243
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/13605.html

The reference of the said Alphabet can be seen here
http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_031

Daniel Leech

Thank you david, it is nice that you pulled this up, it establishes something between us all when folks do that, so thank you.

Belinda E. Gishnock

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Anne Williams

No thank you ๐Ÿ™‚