To honestly acknowledge and inform people about Meier would end their careers and render them irrelevant
Here, in my opinion, are some of the people and organizations claiming factual knowledge about and/or contact with extraterrestrial beings and their craft, who are liars and frauds:
David Wilcock, Corey Goode, Richard Dolan, Barbara Hand Clow, Steven Greer, Paola Harris, Michael Salla, Stephen Bassett, Emory Smith, Barbara Marciniak, Jacques Vallée, Tom DeLonge, James Gilliland, Thirdphaseofmoon, Alex Collier, Leslie Kean, Linda Moulton Howe, Mary Rodwell, Steven Greenstreet, Jordan Sather, Ryan Sprague, Nick Pope, Grant Cameron, Bob Lazar, John Greenewald, Jeremy Corbell, MUFON, David Icke, Peter Slattery, Michael Schratt, GAIA, IUFOC, OpenMinds, TTSA, etc.
This includes and applies to the equally dishonest and delusional people doing inane and unscientific “hypnotic regression” on victims of supposed “alien abductions”, those claiming to be “channeling” any extraterrestrials, inter-dimensional or other entities, it includes those who merely want to profit from writing about, promoting, and/or providing public venues for, such charlatans without having demanded, seen and presented actual, verifiable, authenticated evidence to support their lying claims.
Hot Under the Collar
Sure, I’m begging the question:
“Hey, why so hot under the collar? Everybody knows UFOs aren’t real.”
And that’s exactly the problem.
Many people now view the UFO topic as a curious bit of entertainment, good for a moment’s diversion, like many other things in their lives.
But what else is new? Human history is filled with such people but never before has there been actual, singularly authentic evidence in abundance to warrant serious consideration. What would in fact be the most important development in all of human history has been so marginalized and reduced to ridiculousness by a pack of self-serving, profiteering charlatans that any possible sense of legitimacy has been largely obliterated.
And also gone is any sense of awe and wonder, any real hunger to learn and know more about such a paradigm-shaking revelation as the existence of other intelligent life forms in the universe, and consequently there’s no gaping mouthed curiosity as to the…reason that they would actually contact us.
So, every lying fraud, every bogus “UFO expert” has willingly contributed to the thing they all claim to want to reveal, the so-called “UFO cover-up”, which we now know is solely about the Billy Meier UFO contacts, still ongoing in Switzerland for more than 77 years.
Yes, the disinformation campaign against the Meier contacts is the work of various intelligence organizations and other powerful groups who want to proceed with the total control, the effective enslavement, of humankind. They have found among the self-seeking, profit and fame hungry “UFO experts” a willingly complicit crowd who also dutifully ignore, attack and suppress the Meier contacts.
They All Know
And this is the point. Through the efforts of many interested people, including myself, every one of the aforementioned (as well as unnamed other) parties portraying themselves as UFOs experts, investigators, researchers, etc., has been provided with ample evidence and information about the Meier contacts.
They all know.
Those who don’t openly attack Meier and his evidence ignore and/or suppress it for the obvious reason, i.e. to shine a spotlight on themselves for their own profit. To honestly acknowledge and inform people about Meier would end their careers and render them irrelevant. And, of course, to kill their cash cows.
This is also why the field of UFOlogy is such a miserable, standard-less, unscientific joke, ripe for marginalization and dismissal by most intelligent people.
Our Future Survival
As I’ve said before, if the stakes weren’t so high it would be unworthy of comment. But they are incredibly high. As plainly as can be stated, the Meier contacts contain the key to our future survival. For that to even make a dent in one’s consciousness requires that one has awareness and recognition of the reality of threats posed to humankind’s survival, plainly evidenced now in the “news of the day”.
These include the now unstoppable environmental destruction, the ever-deteriorating geopolitical situation, the looming global financial collapse, the spreading terrorism, societal breakdown and degeneration, etc. – all of which have been specifically foretold in the more than 45,000 pages of information provided to, or written, and published by Billy Meier for over 70 years.
The Solution
The solution is the same as it’s always been, 100% complete self-responsibility for our own lives, seeing things as they are and living in accordance with the laws and recommendations of Creation.
The study, application and implementation of the non-religious, belief-free spiritual teaching is the clearest – and actually fastest – path to liberating ourselves from the futile, dead-end plunge into oblivion which, according to the immutable law of cause and effect, is otherwise to be our fate.
The course correction for our society, our world at large must start with the individual. First, we must learn how to improve our own lives and relationships, the consequence of which is the eventual course correction and improvement for humankind as a whole.
Under the best of circumstances, should we avoid complete self-destruction, it will still be…hundreds of years before humankind as a whole has come to its senses and is capable of living in true love, in peace, freedom and harmony with each other and all other life on the planet. This must happen first, before we will ever interact openly with other intelligent human beings that exist in the universe.
In the midst of all the grim realities, that is the good news. While we must know and be aware of the external realities, we are completely free to pursue the course of study that will yield positive results in our own lives – here and now– without coercion, cults, leaders, belief systems, saviors, superstitions and rituals, etc. Just our own efforts and study, learning how to actually think and apply the might of thoughts in our own lives.
Perhaps now you’ll also understand why I express such utter contempt for those who have contributed to suppressing this invaluable knowledge from humankind from…you.
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Hey Michael , have an idea- ask the so-called UFO folks on your list to provide one piece of evidence like Billy has, the kicker – one piece in EVERY category. First, a daytime upclose clear photograph, one sound recording, landing track , laser hole, hand prints, one photo of a female ET, one piece of metal forged in zero gravity, one prediction for the future, and one scientific discovery before official discovery. oh and they can’t use computers and they have to do it with one arm tied behind their back. lol. see if there are any takers .
HI Barry,
I’ll let your comments be that invitation! Honestly, they’re such a pack of phonies that it would actually be refreshing if they protested being called out. I can’t think of any that have so far. Maybe this will do it…but don’t hold your breath. No evidence, no integrity, oh well.
Hey Michael How about convincing Seth Shoushtak Micjael Delasart,Miriam DeLacado,Lyssa Royal etc, with the same ideas that Barry suggested too from Barry`s last blog Lets see if these “Know It Alls” can give us the “REAL SOLID TRUTH” ech? Salome
Hi Terry,
Shostak’s a phony who DOESN’T want the Meier case to be known…SETI would be out of business then. See:
https://theyflyblog.com/2015/08/10/the-cynical-fraud-that-is-seti/
I don’t know who Delasart it but Miriam DeLicado and Lyssa Royal are both liars and a waste of time.
Bob Lazar? Seriously?
He talked about Element 115, hand bone ID scanners and Area S4 long before they were acknowledged.
He prefers for the most part not to talk about his experiences and has been raided by multiple agencies for bogus reasons, multiple times.
Why would you say he is a liar and fraud?
I guess you don’t get it. How is it that Bob Lazar is able to run around exposing top secret military information while others are thrown in prison or hiding out in other countries for far less? What is your logical conclusion for this?
FIGU bulletin 003:
“some of his testimonies could be conscious, intentionally-guided disinformation based upon data from certain American organizations. An extremely suspicious fact is that Bob Lazar, as the purported holder of secrets, has been left unharmed by the American security and secret service agencies when he openly speaks about alleged top secret information. This is especially strange in America when we consider how harshly this country deals with traitors.”
Billy
Also, use your first and last name when commenting.
Hi Dougal,
I posted this on YT before I saw your question, which Melissa first answered here:
Hi Dougal. Well, there’s things like the fact that since he absolutely knows about the Meier contacts – which are singularly authentic – that he also absolutely avoids mentioning them, let alone shouting it for the rooftops. A scientist involved in the development of supposedly secret craft who goes public but WON’T inform people about Meier? And, speaking of going public, as Meier also pointed out, since when does someone involved in supposedly top secret work simply go public, spill all the beans and…NOT pay a very heavy price for it? All that’s happened to him is that he’s now making more public appearances at the same time that the DISINFORMATION about UFOs and ETs is ramped up, such as with all the phony Navy “disclosures”: https://theyflyblog.com/2019/06/17/us-navy-releases-new-ufo-information/
They need called out. They’re the reason the subject of off world humans visiting earth isn’t taken seriously.
Michael Horn, you are right about, me, Jim Kerr, (Michael’s private message to me), “While you aren’t significant enough to rate, you’ll find familiar names here: UFO Liars, Fakes, Phonies and Frauds Revealed!”
I am Insignificant but do work behind the scenes for John Greenewald, theblackvault.com, I don’t want to be significant… After all these years you still can’t spell John’s name right, lol.
You just don’t understand what The Black Vault is all about.
Jim,
Right but it didn’t stop you from making all of your idiotic, unsubstantiated defamatory remarks about Billy Meier. You repeatedly refused to substantiate them because you couldn’t, of course.
As far as John and his site go, I will correct the spelling of his name, thanks. Other than that it’s the usual bunch of completely irrelevant lights-in-the-sky fluff that is not only a waste of time but also contributes to the distraction and disinformation ploy, which John is more than happy to gain some “success” from.
Maybe you guys should ask yourselves just…WHY you think you know ANYTHING about far, far more advance beings in their equally advanced craft and why you think the reason they’re here is for “UFO experts” to have careers babbling about things they are COMPLETELY unqualified to discuss.
BTW, do you ANY evidence that “demons”, “inter-dimensional” and “fallen angelic” beings exist, as you assume?
Michael,
Billy Meier is a fraud, it’s been proven time and time again. What would be the point of me substantiating my claims, they have already been proven by others. What would be the point of locking horns with you in a debate? It would be a waste of time for both of us.
With two exceptions, you are correct regarding your fraud list. I agree with your list with the exception of John Greenewald, and Jacques Vallee’s older work. See that, I agree with you on something. The problem is you haven’t explored The Black Vault. You don’t know exactly what we do. We debunk most of the UFO sightings submitted to us. Have you read any of our investigations? We have many talented investigators on staff along with advisors in mathematics, astrophysics, astronomy, photography, and more. Also, The Black Vault makes no profit as you have insinuated.
As for me, you paint me as someone looking to become famous which is far from the truth. For years, I have worked behind the scene in Ufology with no interest in notoriety. You have taken much of what I said in that one article out of context to twist your own narrative.
There is more real evidence of fallen angels, demons, interdimensional beings, and GOD than the Billy Meier Hoax. I guess it’s best for you and me to agree to disagree.
Show me one shred of evidence that actually uses the scientific method to prove that Billy is a fraud. I don’t want to hear someone’s delusional opinion that Meier is a fraud. I want scientific proof that he hoaxed hundreds of clear daytime UFO photos, 8mm film recordings, metal samples, sound recordings, landing tracks, over 200 scientific corroborations written decades before “official discovery”, and world and environmental predictions that are still coming to fruition today. Don’t forget that this was all done decades before the digital age. Show me the evidence for your claims. I have a sneaking suspicion that you can’t and your phony UFO frauds can’t produce one single piece of evidence that proves fallen angels, demons, inter-dimensional beings and “God” exists.
Here’s an honest piece of advice: do some more research into how the real world works and how it worked before computers and photoshop.
Jim,
The problem is that the way you try to present your defamatory attacks in itself shows that you’re NOT scientific. Just saying that something’s been “proven time and time again” is the kind of ineffectual approach that isn’t allowed in a court of law, let alone a kindergarten.
And the FACT is that Meier’s evidence is…courtroom quality:
https://theyflyblog.com/2017/08/18/billy-meier-beyond-reasonable-doubt/
The FACT is that, in addition to all of the experts quoted here from some years ago:
http://theyfly.com/UFO-Proof-&-UFO-Evidence.html
…this most recent analysis and authentication was done by the former top investigator/supervisor for the USAF OSI:
https://theyflyblog.com/2018/01/22/usaf-osi-investigator-concludes-billy-meier-ufo-case-real/
…which also agrees with the opinions of these aerospace experts:
https://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/05/prweb11867883.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oExtyldVUa4
So, based on your UNscientific approach, it would indeed be a waste of time to debate, as you (and John) are demonstrably UNQUALIFIED to engage in one.
Considering also that we now have over 250 specific examples of prophetically accurate, error-free SCIENTIFIC information (possibly another one just submitted here by Joe Neuro) why on earth would we waste our time with a website that thinks telling us what we’ve already known – for decades – is even remotely important? Really, “UFO sightings” – which are mainly of secret military craft anyway – are…COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT, something that you fail to grasp.
But this is absolutely typical of people who think that they’re some kind “UFO investigator”, they absolutely DON’T want to find what they CLAIM to be looking for. After all, they are content to chase lights-in-the-sky as a substitute for real investigation. And you wouldn’t even know where to begin to research Meier’s 45,000+ pages of information.
I’m sure that you’re a nice guy and all that but you are…light years out of your league here. And good luck with your evidence-less “God” and the rest of that fairy tale.
Everything Billy foretold has come to pass, credit cards, cell phones, computers, internet, etc. If nothing else Billy knows how our future will unfold if we don’t make changes in our thinking.
Hi Jim,
You sound real close to understanding how beliefs impact folks understanding of the world but then stopped short of asking the hard questions about the world around you. Let’s take the last comment to the post.
“There is more real evidence of fallen angels, demons, interdimensional beings, and GOD than the Billy Meier Hoax. I guess it’s best for you and me to agree to disagree.”
So I ask you, if some alleged ‘other wordly’ figure/being knocked up your bride to be, would you accept that this ‘god’ couldn’t man up and face you directly to tell you about it and instead sent a lowly messenger to give you the details? Does your reaction mirror what happens in the New Testament? Does Billy Meier give a different story about this event where maybe someone mans up and talks to old Joe about it?
Yes, it may sound like a Maury Povich moment but doesn’t small things like these come across that there maybe more to it?
those are some hard words of the truth right there
Just like to add that we live in an era of ‘true believers’ which the UFO subject doesn’t seem to lack folks that latch onto it as if it was a religion unto itself. This is something most people do not grasp as religious behavior like being a true believer is not something limited to an actual defined religion. Here’s the real scoop from ‘Q’ (aka Quetzel):
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_214
Also, Meier is one of the few people that specifically mentions Mikhail Gorbachov as being instrumental to the downfall of the Soviet Union. It was not due to some foreign plot even if foreign nations in their own belief on the matter take credit for its dissolution. The very few folks that correctly verify Meier’s claim is a notable scholar by the name of Stephen Kotkin who rightfully credits Gorbachov who has >1% popularity in Russia.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215
“241. The Soviet Union will be dissolved in this decade or at the latest by the beginning of the next.
242. The man decisive for this action will be Mikhail Gorbachev.”
Hi Michael. Spot on as usual. LMH, used talk on and on about “Arts Parts” and she never once mentions BEAMS evidence. A human being that has a willing to listen audience and who purposefully omits the truth, the truth that could help all human beings on earth and beyond, is a despicable, selfish, unloving human being.
You forgot to mention the ever delusional and lying Eric von Donican. John Leer had said that the Meier case was real but so much of wh at he (Leer), says is so insane that nobody listened to him.
Besides the sickening greed the so-called ufo experts exude, there is a high probability that they’re too strongly connected to an irrational religious belief to see reality. “It can not be so it must not be” is one of their mottos.
Salome, Scott Reed.
The Star Trek franchise has been going on fir well over 50 years and there was one episode on TNG titled “First Contact” and also TNG movie f the same tittle “First Contact.” Maby its time we look into our Crystal Ball for some Near Future movie and or episode where we can try to predict and introduce our Very Real First REAl
Contact of our friends from Erra rather than from Vulcan? This might just put a dent into all the stupid squabbling from all those deniers and self proclaimed stupid UFO SETI channeled nonsense etc. Maybe MH might like to tackle and right the episode and or movie scrips so that the REAL information can get out into the public consciousness to relize that these good Plejaren extraterrestrals REALLY DO EXIST to help us realize that our very survival depends on their help if we want to avert the two civil wars and WW4,etc,etc,etc! This is just an idea.
Another Dougal? Hmm, maybe they are from the DAL universe…
ATTENTION YouTube viewers: (everyone, I suppose?) The shill we know well as [Magic, Mario Marin, Oliver, Jo Weiss, etc.] now has new user names such as [David, Aaron Friedman, etc.]
If you come across them, please take a moment to downvote their comments or REPORT them if they violate the terms of Youtube. That person can say some pretty nasty things. That one person comments as all these different people and then upvotes himself with all his fake accounts, lending visual credibility to people who don’t know he is a fraud. If you have a Youtube channel, you can remove these comments from videos you have posted.
Also, if you are interested, the website Quora is a good place to share information about the Billy Meier contacts, UFOs, and spiritual teachings in a non-proselytizing manner. You can also include links to Michael’s websites or videos in the answers.
Yesterday I was sitting under a tree in the summer shade eating sunflower seeds, enjoying the kernels and spitting out the shells. On the ground were ants scouring about in their striving for food. Most of the ants avoided the shells as I am sure they instinctively knew that there is little nutritional value. However I saw one ant dragging the shell piece back to the nest. I thought to myself this ant may be making a mistake and could use a little help. So I took a much more nutritional kernel and placed it in the path of the ant as it was dragging the shell back to the nest. In no time the ant dropped the shell and took up the kernel and started to drag it back to the colony. This is easy for the ant because it is in line with Creation/nature.
Unlike the human being, according to the Billy Meier information, who has gotten very badly out of the good human nature. Who may reject the kernel (truth) time and time again without correction, because he/she is no longer taking cues from nature; and may even be rejecting nature and thus the actions are unnatural or against the Creation/Universe. This is what is happening to the majority of Earth folks who encounter or are shown the Meier material. For example, it would be wrong for me to have first pulled away the shell from the ant yesterday. The ant needed to strive for the better food source. It would have been wrong for me to have taken the kernel to the ant nest and dropped it in or otherwise forced the kernel upon the ant. The ant needed to strive for itself toward a correction.
I think the Figu community has yet to realize what this problem, of the Earth humanity who have gotten very badly out of the good human nature, really means. This is not a problem that is like climbing a stairs or climbing a hill, no… rather it is more like human being needs to escape out of a maze. Up until the Mission, the Earth human was even blindfolded. The reason this is a maze is because the Earth human thinks he/she is “normal” or healthy; so the average person thinks this is the purpose or the correct life for a human being. Quite the contrary humanity is suffering like a wounded wildebeest or a weak tree prone to fire; because unlike animals for example who show evolution thru speed, claws and teeth, the human is none of this but rather consciousness. And as folks who study the Meier case know, because of religion and politics, humanity is suffering miserably in consciousness evolution striving. Man is headed for extinction on planet earth unless he once again returns to nature and fulfills his role in nature. This should be obvious to any animal of nature, including man.
Beautiful-loving-wise words, “A11A111”. The Earth human being is so far removed from Nature that any fool can mate with any fool and bring forth yet another fool, yet that is not enough of the foolishness, as any anti-life psychopath can do the same. Yet that is not enough either, as any psychopath can amass monstrous wealth and wreak havoc whilst operating on imagined up out of thin-air rights, laws and beliefs, on the loving and wise and all in between. Not enough? No, as they can pass this criminally gained wealth onto any other psychopath of their own choice.
We are ones who understand that “Karma” does not exist from this life to the next and we are ones who understand that we are to yet face the effects of the causes that are still being acted out now and in the future; if one wants a better future, do what causes the better thing, now.
Billy Meier was a fraud. His vids were shopped around Hollywood special effects people before he because famous and all his vids were found to be frauds. Jose Escamilla was one of them. The whole field is a lie
Another anonymous slanderer who provides not one shred of evidence for their claims. You’re just another example of the many cowards who like to go around spewing lies and nonsense about Billy. If you can’t provide scientific evidence for you claims, retract them now. Since you claim there’s all this evidence of Billy being a fraud, prove it. Make sure your evidence stands up in a court of law.
You not only slander Billy, but you also slander someone else who is not here to defend himself, all the while only using a first name. Use your real first and last name when commenting.
I generally allow one idiotic, unsubstantiated comment. So, if you do want to participate here, you’ll need to provide credible substantiation for your defamatory claims, even though there is none as we already know.
Also, use your full name, as Melissa has already informed you.
People believe right away those frauds but, the guy with mountains of evidence they won’t even investigate for themselves, or even read the contact notes for free. A person can read date time ,/contact person, what system they came from , then check the conversations against history and you will see it happened exactly as foretold.