Reaching out to an investigator with a life-long interest in the UFO subject, as well as many years in the intelligence community
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Dear Lue,
In case you hadn’t received my emails, I’m contacting you via this open letter. Your background and professional history are quite impressive and you’ve been active in all of the discussions regarding the truth about UFOs/UAPs, etc. On your site you state:
My pledge to you:
- I will always tell you the truth
- I will own my mistakes and hold myself accountable
- Everyone will be treated with respect, no matter their position
- Abuse or hatred towards others will not be tolerated
- I will always push for full disclosure.
Questions for You
We had a less than satisfactory discussion with Bill Diamond, Director and CEO of SETI. While he assured us that “we’re on the same team…” apparently he didn’t notice that our team had been sending SETI information on the singularly authentic Billy Meier contacts for at least…10 years.
So, since your pledge seems clear and unambiguous, and focusing on your points 1. and 5., let me ask you some questions. With your previous experience and roles as former director of the Pentagon’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (ATTIP), as well as senior counterintelligence officer for the Department of Defense, etc., and interest in the UFO topic, I assume that you’re already familiar with the Meier contacts, so, please:
- Give us your assessment of the Billy Meier UFO contacts
- Make public statements about the contacts and their authenticity now
- Let us know if you will bring this information to the Senate intelligence committee
Regarding your own point 3. above, I trust you’ll respect the sincerity of this outreach.
Threat Assessment
Since identification of any perceived threats to the country was an area of your expertise, I’m sure you’ll also appreciate USAF OSI/Dept. of Defense investigator/supervisor Joe Tysk’s analysis and unambiguous conclusions pertaining to the authenticity of the Meier contacts. Since he too was tasked with protecting the security of the US, it’s worth noting that he never expressed any concern about threats to the country associated with the Meier contacts.
Ruling out that any of the objects supposedly causing such great concern are terrestrial in origin – or at least from other countries – I think the “alien threat”, parroted by so-called “UFO researchers”, is disinformation for obvious reasons.
First, any adversary that has the technology to traverse vast distances of outer space would also have highly developed weaponry at its disposal. Should that presumed adversary have any intentions of attacking our world, it’s also highly unlikely to play cat-and-mouse, or to telegraph its intentions so as to provoke any resistance, comparatively insignificant as it may be.
Secondly, based on the fact that Meier’s contacts have been ongoing for almost 80 years, the Plejaren extraterrestrials could’ve, long ago, attacked, enslaved, and/or destroyed the planet and everyone on it, had that been their intention, instead of trying to assist us to not destroy ourselves…something we’re really good at.
According to my current understanding of the Meier information pertaining to other extraterrestrial visitors, there are three groups observing our world, already for many centuries, and also some so-called future earth time travelers, none of whom have – in all the time they’ve supposedly been around – demonstrated the kind of actions or agenda that concern all those otherwise bored and unaccomplished online “researchers”.
So, while we understand that the military has its duties, there’s also the “to a hammer, everything looks like a nail” concept to consider.
However, since the committee that’s tasked with issuing a report also has six months to do so, unless we’re just talking sci-fi here, I’m not losing sleep over concerns about the “violation of our air space, etc.”…since the committee members apparently aren’t either.
Having said all that, and since you’re privy to more “official” information than we are, please:
- Let us know if we’re missing something here.
The Always Unasked Question
While the UFO topic is now enormously trendy, and equally trivialized, I like to point out that so far as I know, and leaving aside the conspiratorial “evil aliens” nonsense, no one in UFOlogy ever addresses the always unasked question:
“If the UFO contacts are real, what’s the…reason for them?”
Those of us who study the Meier material have already realized that the reason for the Meier contacts is to help us assure our own very threatened future survival. Borrowing from one of my articles, I explained:
“Included in the evidence I refer to as the ‘higher standard of proof’, i.e. even higher than the already authenticated UFO evidence, is an abundance of specific, error-free, scientific information that Mr. Meier verifiably published before “official discovery”, as copyrighted, dated documents – including Stevens’ books – confirm.
The information from Mr. Meier about Mars, black holes, etc., was both fascinating and perplexing for Ken Herkenhoff, the NASA/USGS scientist and PanCam and Microscopic Imager expert for one of the cameras onboard the Mars rovers, to whom I personally presented the information, on March 4, 2019.”
And:
“In fact, the Plejaren extraterrestrials who’ve been in contact with Meier, for almost 80 years, have long been speaking to us…in the language of science. And in German to boot!”
I won’t include here the 100 or so articles I’ve already published, since February 25, 2020, pertaining to the information provided to, and by, Meier regarding the COVID-19 disease, which has proved to be impeccably accurate and almost always published before the CDC, WHO, etc.
In this case, the real, painfully accurate “threat assessment” from the Plejaren should be the primary focus and concern for all terrestrial scientists, doctors, medical professionals, etc.
I know my readership will be interested in your responses to our questions and concerns and do know that, like you, we too always push for “full disclosure”.
We look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.
Sincerely,
Michael Horn (Bio)
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
I wait for the reply… Thank You Michael!
Brock
A former top level individual of the CDC just suggested that the SARS outbreak was at the last quarter of the year. I had been saying the same based on things I heard & later observed from a company I had previously worked at compared to when I was then currently working at again. They were almost exclusively only doing work on companies from “China”.
It will be interesting to hear Lue Elizondo’s thoughts on the Billy Meier material (evidence) should he be open minded enough to read and ponder the information available and……………….actually reply.
It might not be the most popular opinion around here but I think biological and metallurgy samples are much better than UFO pictures. Now I do know Billy did provide one metal sample for analysis decades ago but it disappeared for some reason and I am not sure what happened with that.
I know Billy provided many pictures prior to digital age so it’s harder to do manipulation. However, I don’t think picture is really a strong evidence compared to biological and metallurgy samples. For example, if Billy was able to provide biological sample such as 1000 years old human blood sample or extraterrestrial animal hair for third party analysis, I am sure a lot less people will be arguing against Billy’s case as we don’t really have the technological capability to duplicate something like alien blood sample or extraterrestrial animal hair. On the other hand, picture is easily manipulatable and again I just don’t think it’s a strong evidence overall.
Metallurgy sample is even better, we can easily tell if something is capable to produce with today’s technology or not. But sadly the only metallurgy sample Billy provided disappeared. Maybe Billy’s friend doesn’t want people to try reverse engineering or whatever the reason might be.
And how many people here actually know anything about conducting picture analysis? well at least I don’t…the picture looks real but I have no way to tell let’s be honest here. Billy even said don’t just blindly trust anything, everything should be investigated independently. While I do think Billy definitely has many good points on religion and mankind but I still cannot say his pictures are 100% real simply because I don’t know they are real or not. Simply picture is just picture, physical evidence is much more concrete when it comes to UFO cases but that just my opinion.
I know some of you might say if I don’t believe in pictures then what makes me going to believe in any other evidences? Again, I just think physical evidence inspected by reputable third party lab is much more concrete. Picture is just a snapshot of something existed, biological and metallurgy samples are not. Feel free to disagree.
I suggest you start here: https://theyflyblog.com/2018/01/usaf-osi-investigator-concludes-billy-meier-ufo-case-real/
And then also go here: https://theyflyblog.com/2019/05/reference-page-for-nasa-discoveries-confirm-ufo-case-real/
The contents of these two articles should be sufficient to satisfy anyone who is a logical thinker.
I want to be totally up front that these two links don’t help.
For the first link while I do think pictures are most likely real with or without expert’s opinion, I have to disagree that pictures and films are “best hard evidence” because they are not especially when it comes to UFO contact cases(that’s just my opinion).
Again Picture/film is just a snapshot of something existed, biological and metallurgy samples are not and they are much more concrete.
While the second link is mainly about prediction which is not really concrete as well. Because in order to prove the information is provided by the extraterrestrial we have to look at step 1 (evidence) first and not go straight to step 2 (his information on various topics).
While I do think Billy always brings up very good points on various topics, I do not think trusting every information without verification is a good idea. It will simply become another religion which I believe Billy is feared of.
Do I think Billy is in contact with extraterrestrial? Probably yes.
Do Plejarens have to fly an UFO over my head and show up in front of my face in order to prove it? Not at all, but they definitely are able to provide more concrete evidences instead of pictures and films. Don’t really know why they had to take away the metal sample (or maybe stolen). But that’s absolutely better evidence compared to just pictures.
I just think everyone is so focused on pictures and films and I don’t agree they are “strong” evidence overall. Of course if the extraterrestrial shows up then probably most people will believe it. However, I think they don’t really have to show up…..instead, they have the ability to provide more concrete evidence such as biological and metallurgy samples which we can see, touch, hear, smell, and are unable to duplicate given our lack of technology at the moment.
I know some people might say well if the pictures and predictions aren’t good enough evidence than there’s nothing else is gonna be good enough and you will never think it’s real. Respectfully disagree. I heard Billy still has processions of some other samples so I am very eager to hear something about and the analysis result. Because then we are looking at real evidence, not a snapshot of something in the past.
You seem to have missed the many articles in which I state that the prophetically accurate scientific, environmental, geopolitical and financial information, etc., constitutes the higher standard of proof.
The page you apparently didn’t thoroughly read, with the all of the information about Mars, block holes, etc., is a good example. There are hundreds such examples and if you do your own due diligence you’ll find that, quite simply, Meier published the information well before “official discovery”, or the occurrence of foretold events.
If you add to that the hundreds of still irreproducible UFO photos, films, video, metal samples and sound recordings – all voluntarily presented for analysis by the one-armed man living in a remote part of Switzerland, without the technical, financial or collaborative resources to have manufactured all these things himself, then…common sense alone should be sufficient to recognize that all the evidence any reasonable person would ever need has long been analyzed and authenticated.
Further demands and flailing about reveal more about the doubting demander than the existence of extraterrestrials.
One has to study the entire case and examine all the evidence to get to the truth. There is no one piece of evidence that is more important than the other.
I would suggest asking yourself why the expert photo analysis isn’t up to your standards and can’t be considered “hard” evidence. And what evidence do you possess that we can all examine that scientifically debunks the photographic evidence? Opinions aren’t relevant, so it’s best to move away from the religious type thinking and stick to the science and scientific experts.
There really is no comparison between photographs from the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s and the pictures from the digital age. Photo manipulation would have been costly and tedious work. Meier would have also had to master the art of special effects. And I would consider that to be highly unlikely for a one-armed man with small children who worked various jobs and had a minimal income.
That’s why I think this conversation isn’t getting anywhere because I’m just going to be painted as “a die hard skeptic that won’t admit anything and I’m a religious thinker.”
Yes I read the two articles from top to bottom. While I do agree that the pictures are most likely real and I also agree he is a “ one-armed man living in a remote part of Switzerland, without the technical, financial or collaborative resources to have manufactured all these things himself.” Also yes I agree that he provides many accurate Information. However, I think pictures and information are good supportive evidences, definitely not hard concrete evidences (such as biological and metallurgy samples) to prove extraterrestrial contact.
Right now we are still at the stage of-
Most readers here: he has 100s of UFO pictures that are most likely real and he provided tons of prophetically accurate information, therefore it’s concluded that he is for sure in contact with the extraterrestrial.
vs.
Me: biological and metallurgy samples are better when it comes UFO contact cases. Sure pictures/films and prophetically accurate information are great but they are just supportive evidences.
We are simply just circling around pictures/films and prophetically accurate information. Do I need the UFO land in front of my head to conclude this is a real contact case? Absolutely not. More physical concrete evidences? Sure I’d love to see it. What happened with Semjase’s hair sample? What happened to the metal sample provided to the Scientists decades ago? These are absolutely better evidences than pictures/films (and here’s where we disagree).
Honestly think of this….if reasonable further demands to prove the existence of extraterrestrials should be called-out than what makes it different than most of the religions of the world? We are just going to trust and follow everything?
And to Melissa’s comment:
“stick to the science and scientific experts.” I totally agree and that’s why I’ve said his pictures are most likely real. But picture is just picture, a snapshot of something existed, good evidence but not the best evidence of contact.
“There is no one piece of evidence that is more important than the other.” I have to disagree.
Thanks for taking time to discuss with me.
Unfortunately, you’re also unaware that, in themselves, while the metal samples could be re-analyzed a dozen times, and the same characteristics confirmed, there isn’t a scientist on earth who’s going to say, “Therefore, I conclude that these were absolutely made by extraterrestrials.” The fact that you lean on this so heavily indicates your lack of comprehensive thinking, as well as your attachment to some form of hard proof.
The UFO photos and films can’t be dismissed so easily. They show large, unknown objects flying and/or hovering near other objects of known sizes, with specific characteristics picked up in hte analyses that further establish their size, generation of energies , lights, etc., none of which even still exist with terrestrial technologies.
Further, if you knew how to think and deduce conclusions, you’d actually be overwhelmed with the fact that several HUNDRED examples of specific, never theoretic, speculative or inaccurate scientific information have been provided to and published by Meier in a conversational context. While this realization has indeed staggered scientists who’ve been honest enough their comments, your wanting to”hold out” for – who knows what – is indicative of anise that you, and not the evidence, has.
The metal alloy sample is just a piece or part of the total collection and by itself will never be definitive proof of contact. The Plejaren never intended for there to be one piece of hard evidence. The conglomeration of overwhelming evidence is what makes the case rock solid, and in my opinion, it is due to the genius of our friends from planet Erra who knew that’s what it would take on such a religiously delusional planet.
Maybe the 100’s of clear daytime photos from the pre-digital era don’t do it for you, but again, you have to ask yourself why you will only accept some expert opinions and not others.
I think metal alloy or biological samples are great proof of contact because we are unable to duplicate advance extraterrestrial objects. No one on earth is capable to recreate let’s say the material for Plejarens spacecraft’s hull or DNA structure of a 3000 years old 10ft giant.
I just think a lot less skeptics are going to deny metal alloy or biological samples because again they are presence, available for test.
On the other hand, examining a picture…..well it’s just examining a snapshot of the past, we can never examine the object that is on the picture. Let’s take it this way, I am sure most people would be more interested in examining a real metal alloy sample, not a picture of a metal alloy sample.
Do I think Billy’s contact case is real? Most likely. 100% positive sure? I don’t know
As for” specific, never theoretic, speculative or inaccurate scientific information” by Meier ,isn’t that make him a good information giver? This is not really a definitive proof of contact.
Keeping it simply here and there’s nothing confusing about that. But since when I simply raised a question and shared my thought about the evidences (and I’ve not denied anything what so ever as I’ve stated picture is good evidence but there are better,) I was already unwelcomed here as a “denier”, religious thinker”, and “lack of comprehensive thinking.” I am not quite sure why people are very upset just by someone raising a controversial question/opinion. If asking more controversial questions for the truth are not welcomed then I certainly don’t think we will have any productive discussion at all so this will be my last post.
Kane,
Sorry, but I have a hard time following your thought process because of the obvious lack of logic. Photographs from the pre-digital era are just as compelling as a metal alloy sample, if not more compelling. Please tell us your age so we can understand why it’s not clicking for you. Did you have to go to the library as a child, or were you able to do your research online? It’s important that we understand if your lack of understanding is due to not living during the pre-digital age or just the standard unthinking and stupidity that prevails on earth. Thanks.
And am I still going to observe Billy’s comment on various topics? Yes, because he makes many logical points on many things. The only thing I would be reserved about is historic information such as Atlantis, the origin of our universe, etc… because we probably won’t be technologically advance enough to verify those things in our lifetime.
Again, more illogical mumbo jumbo when all the evidence is taken into consideration.
It seems that you don’t UNDERSTAND what constitutes, evidence, proof beyond a reasonable doubt, etc. So nothing more need be presented to you. You’re certainly entitled to your opinions, etc.
Perhaps turning your attention to all of the information, warnings, etc., especially about the COVID disease would be more productive for you. You can evaluate its accuracy, relevance, etc., without having to factor in the extraterrestrial element; just consider it on its own merits.
I can absolutely and instantly debunk your stance on “photos only” if you send me an email to doogsnova at aol dot com.
Besides that, I have a few inputs:
1. What about the 9 films?
2. What about the large and small ET footprints in concrete?
3. What about the oval laser hole and singed branches?
4.What about the 130 eye witnesses?
5. What about the irreproduceable (spelling?) Sound recordings?
6. What about the dozen or so eye witnesses that saw the human ETs in the flesh?
7. Why the 23 assassination attempts on his life if the photos are fake?
8. Multiple sets of Landing tracks?
9. Hundreds of radar recordings of the Swiss Air Force in his area (236 UFO radar sightings took place in the airspace above the land of the Swiss confederates between the 25-month period from April 1, 1993 to April 31, 1995)
10. Rhal Zahi’s WCUFO report (my favorite) https://billymeier.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/wcufo-en-v21.pdf
Because it proves the size of the object with irrefutable math.
11. 13 out of 13 witnesses who passed lie detector tests.
12. Did Meier creatively write 8,500 pages of imaginary conversations in 17 x 500 page volumes just for fun?
13. Did he write dozens of spiritual teaching books all as a coincidence without any outside help?
14. Did the Plejarens say they purposely left room for doubt (pendulum UFO demonstration flight) to slowly awaken humanity over time?
15. Did the Plejarens offer to work with America in 1979 with a planned mass public landing decades later, only to have this cancelled by the Americans with insane demands?
16. Did other people ever witness ET ships? Of course. So they did but Meier never did?
17. Everything everyone else has said.
18. What about the acid etched 7 finger handprints and fingerprintsts.
19. What about all the consciousness power demonstrations that Billy performed in front of witnesses on many occasions?
20. What about the New Delhi Stateman newspaper article?
21. What about the many things they haven’t even told us yet?
Good list.
Food for thought.
Your response was constructive for those like Kane Sean who are working their way to deducing conclusions.
I did not read any belittlement in your response.
I like the style.
Boy your words are confusing. You say that:
– I do agree that the pictures are most likely real
– he has 100s of UFO pictures that are most likely real
– I don’t think picture is really a strong evidence
– I think pictures and information are good supportive evidences
– picture is easily manipulatable
– the picture looks real but I have no way to tell
– I still cannot say his pictures are 100% real
At first you agree and then you doubt.
I remember when I took pictures of my Mom in the 80’s I knew it was her and I never had provide ‘hair sample’ either.
I never thought that Billy’s pictures taken around the same time could be fakes. The technology for it did not even exist back then!
When were you born? I wonder if that has something to do with the confusion.
Soft disclosure from Wall Street Journal essay
Alien Languages May Not Be Entirely Alien to UsEvolution should favor some universal traits in the emergence of any form of communication on any planet
https://www.wsj.com/articles/alien-languages-may-not-be-entirely-alien-to-us-11616817660
Human contact with alien civilizations may be more likely than we think. A recent NASA study estimated that there should be at least four habitable planets (and probably more) within about 32 light years of Earth—a cosmic stone’s throw away. Those planets could just now be receiving (albeit faintly) our television broadcasts of the 1989 inauguration of President George H.W. Bush. But would aliens understand those broadcasts? Would we understand aliens? Could we ever interpret their languages?
This outta trigger Michael Hornand the A-team…
NASA analysis: Earth is safe from asteroid Apophis for 100-plus years
by Jet Propulsion Laboratory
https://phys.org/news/2021-03-nasa-analysis-earth-safe-asteroid.html