Courageous whistleblowers who reveal very high-level, critically important information, are often subjected to worse treatment than wrongdoing they reveal
It’s especially timely that the following information be presented now, as there are vile new efforts to further defame the late investigator, Lt. Col. Wendelle Stevens (USAF), also as a means to continue attacks against Billy Meier. The vitriolic attacks are perpetrated by nasty and immature people who, as Ptaah said, “are so entangled in all the lies and slander”.
They also don’t seem to know, or care, anything at all about what often happens to courageous whistleblowers who reveal very high-level, critically important information, and are then often subjected to worse treatment than if they were the parties whose secrets and/or wrongdoings they reveal.
Consider how Julian Assange has been treated, even though the information he revealed doesn’t compare in historical significance to revealing the confirmed existence of an advanced, space traveling, extraterrestrial human race – and their contacts with Billy Meier, still ongoing for almost 80 years.
And that is precisely what Wendelle Stevens was persecuted and prosecuted for, as it was, and still is, considered the gravest threat to their stranglehold on humankind by the powers that be.
(Note: The following is an unofficial, unapproved translation and may contain errors.)
Excerpt from the 709th official interview report of July 29, 2018
Billy It is also true that Wendelle Stevens was maliciously and innocently sent to prison for allegedly sexually assaulting children, which was a lie and deceit, but he has not been rehabilitated to date. You Plejars, i.e. you Ptaah, together with your daughter Semjase, and you, Quetzal, you investigated extremely meticulously at that time with regard to the accusations against Wendelle regarding the alleged sexual abuse of minors. You investigated and clarified everything so thoroughly in detail that it was almost exaggerated, but you could not find anything that could indicate any misconduct on the part of Wendelle with regard to the accusations made against him. But you were not the only ones to find out the truth about this, because earthlings also looked into the accusations against Wendelle and found that they could not be true, as can be seen from many letters still on the Internet today, such as these two notes:
Wendelle Stevens
P.S. I’ve been watching Wendelle C Stevens for many years. Colonel Wendelle Stevens was put into jail in approximately 1984 sometime, in Tucson, for sharing too much information on UFOs. The court charge was child molestation?
But many people online say he never did anything like that.
Just those that didn’t want him to talk about his UFO sightings wanted him to stop talking?
I think he spent 5 or 6 years in jail?
I keep an open mind to everything.
But if Mr Stevens was jailed incorrectly
Then that would be a darn shame aye.
I know National Security is important.
But why do they sometimes use child sex to ridicule or slander people?
Things are being said that indicate criticism against him, albeit in a different way, like especially regarding UFOs and especially me, etc., as can be seen in the following internet article:
UFO researcher Lt. Col. Wendelle C. Stevens deceased
Wendelle C. Stevens (1923-2010) | Copyright/source: ufophotoarchives.org
Tucson/ USA – The former Lieutenant Colonel of the US Air Force, Wendelle C. Stevens, is considered by many as a pioneer and by his critics as one of the most controversial representatives of UFO research. Stevens died yesterday at the age of 87 years from respiratory failure.
Without a doubt, Stevens was one of the world’s most famous and longest serving UFO researchers. He was born in Round Prairie, Minnesota in 1923 and joined the US Army in 1941. Stevens also later served as air attaché of the U.S. Air Force in South America, resigned from the army in 1963 and worked for “Hamilton Aircraft” until 1972.
During his service, according to his own later statements, Stevens worked for a highly secret military project in which unusual phenomena, including unidentified flying objects, were researched in the Arctic region using various measuring instruments on board reconnaissance aircraft. After Stevens later failed to obtain the results and documents of this project, he began his own investigations into unidentified flying objects (UFOs), which he continued for 54 years. He was the first director of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization (APRO).
Stevens has been particularly criticized for his supportive assessment of the events and claims of Swiss UFO contact Eduard “Billy” Meier, who even some of Stevens’ comrades-in-arms consider to be a proven fraud, while others still consider at least some of the photographs and film footage presented by Meier as evidence to be authentic.
Wendelle C. Stevens also received criticism from within his own ranks for his assessment of a UFO crash that allegedly took place near Laredo, Texas, in July 1948. In his book about the “UFO-Crash at Aztec” he explained that at that time it was the crash of a US-American experimental plane and that a body allegedly found on site was that of a large rhesus monkey. In a 2009 interview, he explained that while he firmly believes that many UFO crashes are due to alien spacecraft, the Laredo object was a secret project launched from the White Sands missile test site in New Mexico.
Stevens is also known for his collection of UFO photos, which is one of the world’s most extensive image archives on the subject. As a result of his research, Stevens published more than 22 books, which have been translated into numerous languages. In 1987 he received an award for his ufological life’s work at the “First World UFO Forum” in Brasilia. Steven himself was co-founder and director of the “International UFO Congress”.
Ptaah Unfortunately, Earthmen are so entangled in all the lies and slander in connection with the so-called UFOs, as well as in our contacts and in the false and various lying accusations against Wendelle Stevens, that they consider the lies and slander as truth and are no longer able to recognize the effective real reality and its truth. And as far as the research of that time into the false accusations against him is concerned, it is in keeping with the fact that our extremely accurate findings have shown that the whole thing was based on slander coordinated by the state to silence him in several ways. On the one hand, the whole thing was based on his knowledge according to highly secret military investigations and military findings regarding unidentified flying objects, which it was feared he might reveal and spread the truth, but which he never intended to do in order to preserve his honor and secrecy. On the other hand, it was also not allowed that he continued to be active in public in such a way that he could have provided incontrovertible proof of the correctness of the contacts between you and us, for which he had to do so as a result of … … … …which was the reason why he did everything he could so that he, as well as Lee and Brit Elders and the Savadove Young Films crew, could do the work on the Contact Film. However, Wendelle Stevens kept his promise, and remained silent until his death, that he would … … …, while also providing irrefutable proof of our existence and kept our contacts with you just as safely as the … … … which should have been handed over to the government of the USA if our attempts to contact them had been successful, but for reasons you know, this was not the case. So Wendelle Stevens kept all the important documents that were equipped with our security apparatus, but through which we destroyed all the material when we realized that it was impossible for us to contact the US government. However, for reasons unknown to us, some information had been leaked, which is why the U.S. intelligence, military, and government followed certain clues that resulted in harassment of Wendelle Stevens and ultimately led to his being falsely accused of sexual acts with minors, imprisoned, and sent to prison.
Billy You mention things that should not be said.
Ptaah That is so, yes, but I am speaking to you, and you know that you do not recall what is said and do not may write down.
Billy Oh, so I’ll just have to leave out all that stuff that … … … so I should just make a number of dots, I suppose.
Ptaah That is the meaning of my words.
Billy Clear Case. But now I would like to bring up again something that happened in the past, namely things and events that even some FIGU-KG members don’t know or only partly know, so I think I should perform them once and I can simply play them back from the internet if you allow me to.
Ptaah There is nothing against it.
Quetzal I also agree with that.
Billy Shall I read you the whole thing?
Quetzal Yes.
Ptaah Of course you can.
Billy Good, then here is an article that appeared in MAGAZIN 2000plus, No. 5, May/June 1999
See these works by and with Wendelle Stevens:
And please see this video from Billy Meier about pertaining to the dangers still posed by ISIS:
I have a lot of respect for Wendelle;s work on Meier case. It is a shame the Plejaren chose not to help Wendelle with the bogus charges.
Please use your first and last name. Thanks.
Sorry I forgot 🙂
Also, Lee Elders was slandered and that was cleared up later on by Billy and the Plejaren.
Did Wendelle Stevens ever talk about the false accusations against him?
Yes he was aware of what was happening. Michael received a letter yesterday regarding this but I will not say anything more until he receives permission to disclose it from FIGU
Once there was a video where W, Stev. explains why not to get bothered or angry by any oponent. Could help … https://youtu.be/gB7UfdgHIb0?t=3683
Actually…not true. As you can learn here:
De-programming Billy Meier UFO Skeptics in Three Easy Steps
https://theyflyblog.com/2020/09/de-programming-billy-meier-ufo-skeptics-in-three-easy-steps/
Of course, envious, bitter fools such as yourself, who rush to condemn good people, are useless parasites.
Have a nice day.
There seems to be a lot of envious, bitter, useless fools mouthing off lately. It’s a shame that Earth humans have degenerated to such levels of hatred, jealousy and primitive behavior.
Listen to this psychopath. He got ‘caught with a 16-year-old girl’ and that means he is a ‘sick old pedophile’. Typical subhuman psychopaths. The same men who claim that a teenage girl has no right to sex also claim that a man has a right to sex as a justification for prostitution and homosexuality. They are subhumans, and expose themselves as such in their ridiculous, Catholic-priest-like hypocrisy of statements and slanders like this.
Wendell was a good man , everyone knows it . He stood on his principles and would share anything with MUFON because he paid his own to visit Billy and none of them had any money. That began the smear campaign against him, when MUFON was called AFRO .
So if the secret military investigators were afraid of Lt. Col. Wendelle Stevens’s knowledge about unidentified flying objects and that he might reveal the truth about them has to be due to the fact that they must have been involved something dirty and were worried about being caught at it. What other UFO’s are we to be concerned about? Something must have been going on because working on the Contact Film was important to Wendelle. Something to do with strong lies because they became the truth as Ptaah says.
Wendelle remained silent about the dirty business and yet he did not deter from providing the proof of the contacts between Billy and the Plejars. At the same time the Plejars had hoped to contact the U.S. gov’t by giving him important documents to hand over which did not happen because it was impossible to contact them. The leaks caused the U.S. intelligence to harass Wendelle and thus they created false sexual accusations against him for which he went to jail for 5 years.
Why put Wendelle in jail because he travels to Switzerland to check out UFO claims as it was his job to do so in the first place?
Every time I see an airplane I think of Wendelle. Wendelle was the one who convinced Billy to continue with his mission when he had difficulties. I remember how well he was able to talk to Billy and the rest of us. Wendelle is my hero!
It’s really time to clean up this Earth.
The problem as I understand it with the so-called ‘UFO disclosure’, is that very many crimes are attributed to the secret organisations. They have been taking gigantic quantities of cash to fund all the projects and keeping secret the crimes. The most notorious crimes were defrauding the public, like with Apollo 11 & 13, and TWA 800, cattle mutilations to make it look extraterrestrial and so many murders with secret poisons and substances to make it look like a natural death it would horrify the public to learn. They are all military trained etc. In a way Wendelle Stevens was lucky to walk away from it, given what he learned and from his collection of photos he collected of their secrets. If he was not a public figure they probably would have chosen a different method of eliminating his character. The CIA is the most dangerous organisation on the face of the Earth.
Vast majority of Americans don’t know this but UFO disclosure already happened decades ago in most European nations at official and government levels etc., the conclusions were pretty boring actually, that there is obviously to any dumb dumb evident that there is no ‘national security threat’ or anything stupid like that. So all you have then is Americans murdering their way around the world threatening everyone, with the heavy breathing and psychotic rage etc. and it has become clear what is going on. The suppression created a massive group of conspiracy theorists and storytellers in USA and everyone else in world not comprehending the behaviour etc., where this country has been going its own way on a different course to other nations and this is why the prophecy of two civil wars was forecast, because it is only possible to lie for so long before it ends.
Other than Billy Meier’s stuff, I haven’t heard back then (10+ years ago) about two civil wars in America, let alone even one civil war. There was a time where the Steve Greers and Alex Jones types in the world didn’t mention a single word about it. I’ve heard of all other types of upheavals like coups and police state but not civil war.
I will fondly remember the phone chat I had with Wendelle in 1995. Just prior to having lower back surgery, I thought it a good idea to stock up on some of the printed material he and Elders had published. Wendelle was very considerate, and a good listener, because his answers to any questions I posed were very complete, much like MH. I would also like to state how nice it was to speak with Brit Elders as well, not to mention her good friend, Shirley MacLaine.
You are so lucky John to have spoken to him and the others! What an experience!
Brigitte, as humbly as I could word it, in a recent email I’ve shared with MH . .
“I so dearly recall, back in 1995, while on a 4 month recovery from L4-L5 spinal surgery, I was about 5 years into familiarizing myself with the Meier stuff. I eventually placed a phone call to Wendelle Stevens, had a brief chat, and acquired the info I needed to make an order for such publishings as ‘Message From The Pleiades’. I had also seen the available investigative scientific video documentation that Stevens, and the Elders conducted. I was immediately convinced of the validity to the Meier case. ”
Anyway, I will always cherish the words Col. Stevens put to me . . “well Mr. Webster, should you decide to embark on the journey into what “Billy” represents, prepare to lose friendships, and perhaps, even to aggravate family members, but you may very well acquire some invaluable relationships too!”
It is obvious to me that the ufos and ET contacts were only for the govt. People investigating this and bringing it to the general public were doing so at their own risk of being slandered, put in prison with false cases etc.
It is really sad that all those who brought the Meier case to the public had to go through so many challenges including 23 murder attemps on Billy himself
The ETs being more technically advanced than earthlings should abandon their ‘noninvolvement’ and see that no physical harm comes to people while bringing out the truth.
People are left to defend themselves which sometimes becomes ineffective when facing powerful and hostile government organizations.
Hi Shiva,
One positive I can imagine is that Wendelle would’ve been much more cautious about giving 16-year-old Kal Korff the access he desperately wanted to this case, limiting the damage that psycho could have done. Maybe, Wendelle’s prison time woke him up to the all-talk ineptitude and insincerity of the UFO community; avoiding other problems later?
As for what the Plejaren did do for Wendelle: Remember when Wendelle told the story about being questioned by British intelligence officer Mark Nathan whose secure white and red telephones rang for 10 short rings and when a vital item went missing from Nathan’s safe and ended up in Wendelle’s room? What better way for an ET race to warn those schemers that they can disappear anything at any time, but, have no real bad intentions?
They also put up various shield protections around the SSSC to stop attacks and eavesdropping, and removed the Bafath who no doubt would made their own mischief with Wendelle and his team has they been still around.
It’s possible the Plejaren removed the metal samples after Marcel Vogel had a chance to study and comment on them because they realised someone linked to IBM was going to steal them away for all time, possibly having negative ramifications in the future by advantaging some group to know the stages to aim for in futuristic fabrications and increasing the intense focus on Wendelle and his team.
I would say they steer carefully and accurately when helping those who are directly trying to help them, but, we shouldn’t delude that applies to anyone with an interest.
This Strange attack on Wendelle whom I knew very well for many years, personally and in business seems a bit ridiculous in that it in no way has anything to do with the Meier case.
All men on earth have weakness and vices. Society’s morals and traditions are changing with the wind. The truth of the Meir case lives with each individual. Just as with the Bible,Koran and teaching of Buddha along with dozens of other masters that have passed on knowledge to us earthlings..
Its our own decision on how to interpret and internalize the messages.
I can say without doubt that we are not alone (humans) on this Blue Planet on the outer edge of the Milky Way. And If any person feels that we are alone in the Universe, I hope you well.
Just as people thought the world was flat and that Santa Claus comes every year on Dec 25. Those Childhood infancy beliefs are very similar to the debunkers of today and of the past.
There are literally hundreds of real cases and possibly thousands. The reality is we are as a infant (human race) as compared to even the most recent of our space brothers and sisters who have been able to navigate the Galaxy.
Yes and many do have there own agendas (as do humans).
Some may in fact be Angels and others not so angelic, only time will tell.
And with so much abundant life in the Universe it’s just a matter of time that Humanity will become fully aware of the Many Thousands of Galaxies and dimensions. that may be explored.
The feeble earth mind of skeptics is just an illusion meant to keep power and control from the Earth Human. To keep him bickering and fighting over resources that if used properly and managing our population would be sufficient for all to have a fulfilling, Happy Productive lives.
The real Enemy of progress is the rampant Capitalism and hoarding of wealth (illusion) by a few thousands of people.
Whoever reads this, I implore you to seek out many of cases that are legitimate and have ample evidence for you to decide for yourself. I have found with over 50 years of personal and professional research that if you look into the subject much you will find irrefutable evidence with hundreds of witness, cases, photos. I guess if we would compare it to the evidence to support Jesus existence it would not even be a question.
I knew Wendell Steves, his family and some of his friends. I have never questioned his honesty and integrity in regards to the UFO cases He investigated. Some are real and some aren’t. And most may be from other unknown phenomena.
Life is to short to argue with infants (debunkers) about the real story, which is that we are in fact not alone even in this Galaxy let alone the Universe.
Man is a flawed being and as such can be looked at for his flaws. But within all of us lives the truth and it’s really our own truth that matters to each one. Please find your own and don’t put others down for finding there’s. especially Wendell whom did his best with what he had.
And if you want a truth from another perspective watch this video from George Carlin about Religion.
Hi William,
Can you clarify what you are referring to when you say “All men on earth have weakness and vices. Society’s morals and traditions are changing with the wind.”?
Is that in reference to the sexual assault accusations against Wendelle Stevens?
The reason I ask is because it doesn’t matter how much a society’s morals have changed; sexual assault, assault, murder, etc. are all crimes that go against Creation and deserve the appropriate punishment regardless of the times. They are wrong and immoral for all times.
At the same time, the viscous accusation against Wendelle Stevens is also a crime and goes against Creation. The whole point was to attack his integrity, honor and credibility. And it was definitely related to his research and findings. Ask yourself why.
There’s a lot more in your comment to unpack, but generally, most folks who study the Meier case and the Spiritual Teaching have already discovered the truth. We have left the world of UFO’s, little green men, alien contacts, Jesus, the Bible, Mohammad, the Koran, etc. While some of us have never subscribed to religions, many others have discovered that all religions on Earth are false and do not represent the truth in any manner. The same goes for the UFO industry with its abductions and lights in the sky. Those are all just distractions to keep humanity chasing its tail.
We can both agree that Wendelle Stevens has done a great service for the mission and I hope that more people will speak out about the horrific injustice he suffered.
RE: Wendell,
If you would read the case file you will find that it’s not really related to his UFO work.
I take exception to your assertion that all religions are false and don’t represent truth in any manor.
This seems to suggest that you have all the worlds knowledge at your disposal,
past and present and know the Absolute truth as being absolute.
How would you explain the Uranci,
Oshape and the hundreds of other books along with teachings of the Masters that have valuable insights of the human condition.
It also seems that your ideas of morality are yours, while dismissing the American Indian way of thought as false.
So at what age does sexual consent occur?
I hope you well in your personal journey.
Maybe you can help me. What advice would you give me ?
Hi William,
I’m sure that’s what the case file says, but they also accused him of sexual molestation of a minor. If one accusation isn’t true, what are the odds of neither being true?
I’m also in no way suggesting for you to stop believing in religion or any other folklore. As I said earlier, those of us who study the Meier case and the Spiritual Teaching already know that all religions are false. We’ve come to these conclusions after years of research and study. What you believe is your business and your right.
I do however stand by my original statement that sexual assault is immoral and wrong, regardless of who does it. Adults who groom children or teens is not consent. Being from a native or male dominated culture does not give one a pass to abuse others, but we see this brainwashing all over the planet. Young children and teenage girls are married off before they even have a chance to live their own lives. It’s despicable and also one of the number one reasons why so many of them run away or hurt themselves. Contrary to what some men think, most teens and children don’t want to be married off to grown men when given the choice. They rather go to school and follow their own hopes and dreams. It comes down to a lack of education for why so many young girls are ignorant to their rights as human beings.
Luckily, the days of child and teen brides being owned by men is slowly changing. Nothing will stop the pendulum from swinging forcefully in the opposite direction.
My advice to anyone would be to honestly look into the Meier case. It’s the best advice I can give and I do wish you well on your journey.
You’re dead wrong regarding ‘consent’, the whole matter was made up by psychopaths in order to control women and sexually abuse them by depriving them of a marriage partner and courtship. The reality is that the fundamental ‘teaching’ contained in any true prophet is that different beings have different morals, in particular the sexes have separate moral prohibitions, and prohibition of sex based on age does not apply to any female, but quite the contrary.
Thus, whether or not Wendelle Stevens committed this ‘crime’, he is not a criminal by natural law, only by American morality invented by psychopathic Christians and homosexuals.
Note BTW that e.g. Billy married Kalliope when he was 17 against the wishes of her parents.
Children absolutely cannot consent until they reach a certain age. A 17 year old can legally get married in many U.S. states, but that’s not what I’m referring to. I’m talking about children and young teens. We live in a country of laws and the spiritual teaching is very clear about following societal laws.
Also, the Creational Law does not allow a man to marry, molest, or have sexual relations with a female against her will, in any culture.
It’s usually…men who “champion the rights” of girls and very young women to enter into marriages, etc. Of course, this is usually so they can get young, naive sex partners who will also dutifully carry out their assigned work. The Mormons figured this out some time ago.
While exceptions exist, for the most part very young females haven’t had a chance to integrate developmental changes into their lives, get a sense of who they are and what they want, etc. Of course this can be even more true for young males. But it’s very clear that the enthusiasm to support marriages – usually with older men -are most often done to exploit the young females.
Thank you, Michael. I personally find it disturbing and horrifying when men go out of their way to fight for young girls to be allowed to marry or have sexual relations. What might have been okay and understandable hundreds and thousands of years ago, due to life span and evolution level, is certainly not acceptable today. Morality is not an American invention and it’s certainly not a bad thing. I’m not talking about burka’s and morality police, but having common sense and self respect. I suspect that there’s a very good reason that the Plejaren wait until they have reached age 70 before they can get married.
You’re wrong. The truth is that a little girl is preoccupied by nature with relationships and love for the purpose that a woman over 12 years of age is highly averse to remaining single, and hypergamously seeks an older male partner. Morality is absolute nonsense and a Christian invention.
Now you know the mind of a little girl? That’s hilarious and couldn’t be further from the truth. Only in the mind of a MAN could they think that girls only fantasize about relationships with men. How utterly predictable.
I guess you enjoy the non-morality that we see today with child sex trafficking, young girls having sex and doing other stupid things because they’ve been brainwashed by a society that judges women and girls solely on their sexuality. Get out of here with that nonsense.
I just saw that you mentioned the 70 year thing as well.
This is incorrect. At 18 I still had my socks up to my knees and never thought once that I would be remaining alone!
I did have pressure from my parents to marry which I fought for many years. Marrying me was their way of not worrying about me and I don’t think they cared if I were going to be happy in the marriage or not. They also did not think that I could be fully independent. Also, being single was a sign that I was not following the tradition.
In working with many cultures, I see that parents have a lot to do with marrying off their daughters. The countries that practice the dowry, for example, create a form of commercialism and make child marriage more likely. Some families marry off their daughters as children to avoid larger dowries.
Other families marry off their daughters in order for them to get money.
Doing a bit of research would be a good way to be updated on this topic.
“…a woman over 12 years of age…”! Wow! You really got it backwards, haven’t you. No wonder the world look the way it does in this regard.
I retain a netral / positive composure toward the Mathew Deagles on Earth. To you both, Melissa and Michael, how spiritually elegant you are! Salome!
It is a right of a girl to enter into a marriage, she has the natural inclination to avoid being alone and unpartnered from the time she reaches biological adulthood at age 12. It’s not a matter of what a man wants but what is the natural law that prevents women from being available for seduction and sexual abuse and fulfils their need to be in a relationship. Also in such a case, it is the woman who owns the man, not the other way around, hence why polygamy is the law of nature but not polyandry. The woman can share what she owns, but is not property of the man, he may not share her with other men.
Apart from this, however, a lot of men are permanent boys who should never marry and remain in a mentality that eschews sexual congress and relationships, basically being in the mentality of a boy under age 15 for life.
There is no equation whatsoever between a boy and a girl or between a manchild and a girl or a woman.
They’re opposites and so logically opposite laws of nature apply. A boy is a juvenile male and a woman is an adult female, opposites. Thus, one can absolutely not transfer an ‘untouchability’ of a boy to a woman over the age of 12.
There are plenty of factors that speak against men marrying 12 year old girls. I guess you were never the parent of a female child.
Our societies are not ready for polygamy, nor for such unions between…children and adults, nor should they be. Even in societies where they permit these adult child “marriages” the females may be anything but “liberated”. And yes, in societies such as ours the percentage of “permanent boys” is enormously high.
As for “fulfills their need to be in a relationship”, going from child directly to wife/mother with no respect for the maturation time and the social development in between, is simply more child abuse.
As far as I recall, the Plejaren generally wait until they’re about 70 years old to marry. According to complex calculation formulas I worked out, over a number of days, the average 12 year-old girl falls a bit short in terms of maturity in comparison. Need we mention the average male?
I suggest learning to develop appropriate protective instincts and behaviors as males and not rush to get a hold of a young girl to satisfy sexual needs. There’s so much predation in the world that learning how to man-up and recognize the reality of the imbalances in maturity, self-knowledge and self-awareness, etc., that should definitely precede men entering into relationships. The low level of overall maturity, responsibility, sensitivity, etc., is quiet evident in males. Indeed, this is a nation full of entertainment-seeking, bling-obsessed, overly aggressive males. They are in no way suitable, real companions for women and the failings of many women also demonstrate that there is too much lacking in the very foundation of life, development, etc., for many to have successful relationships.
This has nothing to do with Christianity, except that it’s fostered such delusion as to make incomplete human beings out of many of the believers, as can be said in one way or another for any/all religions. If parents are students of the spiritual teaching, and learning what real, effective love is, they can teach by example and be better role models, imbuing both male and female children with a more evolved, loving and realistic example of what love is.
Let children be children, guide them with love, understanding, patience and all other good values. When men are engaged in doing so, they contribute far more to their development and potential readiness for relationships than viewing them as “relationship material”, to put it politely.
You’re wrong, basing your conceptions on false morality and a naive assumption that your own disposition can be transferred to others. However, it is not equivalent to that of a female child. A female is quite different from a male in every respect. There is no way to claim that a 12-year-old girl is a ‘child’ in the same sense as a 12-year-old boy. It’s all just a big lie told by degenerates who impose their sick fantasies on reality. The truth is that the female child aged 3 – 11 represents the principle of love, sex, and lust as a being, and the adult woman aged 12+ represents the mentality of wanting to share and satisfy her desires while exploring in search of novelty, as well as materialism and accumulation of property. The husband also is a form of property no teenage girl should do without or wants to do without, other than degenerates with borderline personality disorder who are averse to love per se. A boy is totally different from this, and is oriented instead at autonomy, creativity, standing out, and being different, and does not enjoy sex or relationships at all. The same applies to a lot of men, ordinarily the majority, which is another reason why polygamy cannot be circumvented under any circumstances. The ‘manchildren’ or men with the permanent mentality of a boy are averse to sexual relationships and touching or sharing with others and having to hold onto property, they want to be admired platonically and prefer masturbation and fantasy to real sex, while also being fixated rather on a maternal woman’s feet and legs than any sex-organ proper. That is, as with any being the manchild or boy prefers his exact opposite, an adult woman, while a little girl therefore prefers an adult man, and a woman prefers entertainment in a platonic form by the boy, such as her son, or a childish man such as a musician or artist. A mature man, the minority today due to factors like overpopulation as well as the natural laws under normal circumstances, instead prefers his opposite, a little girl, and that is the natural form of true love that develops into a marriage without the woman ever being alone or deprived. For the most part, any woman who preaches these morals tends to be a borderline personality and a hysteric who is detached from reality, or ‘realitätsfremd-naive’, while other women may conform with these beliefs due to the general fear of standing out or being ashamed. It is however not a good idea to let oneself be intimidated by psychopaths and their fake morality. In general, a female other than a borderline should be in a relationship with a man from as young an age as possible, of her own seduction and natural will, while a manchild or boy is averse to any such relationship or contact. Also note that ‘child sexual abuse’ really means rather things like raising a boy in the manner of a girl, such as making him sit still and listen passively, or raising a girl in the manner of a boy, such as making her toil without pleasure or compete in sports, etc.
Child sexual abuse in the other sense is mostly made up by hysterical fanatics, and the vast majority of what really goes on is just the typical psychopathic behaviour among homosexuals of all ages.
There is in fact no such thing as ‘children’ as a generality, but only boys and girls, who are totally distinct as opposite sexes. A girl is sexual, a boy is platonic and avoids sex or relationships, he does not enjoy love as it infringes on his self. A girl is the opposite, she craves to be desired, to seduce, and to have sexual contact, from a young age, and particularly from the biological age of adulthood at 12.
What do you consider “false morality”, denying males access to young girls who just can’t wait to be ravaged by an older guy?
How do you know what my disposition is? I certainly don’t relate at all to your perspective that the majority of young males who value “autonomy, creativity, standing out, and being different” aren’t interested in sex, etc., etc.? And all musicians and artists are childish?
Your definition of what is “real” child sexual abuse excluded the very thing that has been perpetrated upon so many females, of all ages. It reads like a treatise in self-indulgence and from my own perspective a rigid justification of something akin to what Aleister Crowley preached.
The whole idea it is mainly men who crave relationships with the girls is false, it is the other way around. It’s a woman who is particularly preoccupied with the instinctive need for a partner and to share, while a man evolves out of a boy who is very selfish and does not like to share, into a man who is rather neutral about having a partner than in strong need of company. The idea that sex is harmful is just a lie, it is not. The reason for all this moral hysteria is that psychopaths/homosexual men hate the true love and want to eradicate it and replace it with prostitution and slavery. The actual outcome of girls being morally restricted in their natural urges and desires is that they become available for abuse by degenerate man later in life.
A childish man is interested in sex as a masturbatory fantasy but does not like the loss of autonomy entailed by being in a relationship and also does not like the real experience of sex as much as fantasy.
As for the Dyson-like mention of Crowley, Crowley was openly a homosexual. As I explained, homosexual men engage in precocious sexuality as young boys because they are psychopaths. Nobody is being ‘abused’ but nature, by evil incarnate as the psycho men, the same ones who tell us that somehow girls are sexually untouchable. See e.g. the Catholic priests.
Funny that, as far as I know, the spiritual teaching doesn’t classify all homosexual men as psychopaths.
All in all, it appears to me that you’re preaching a kind of dogma that makes very broad generalizations, when maybe it would be more productive for you to talk about your own relationships. In fact, this particular blog is far more about Wendelle Stevens, of course, and if we don’t already have a more appropriate one it can be started.
Lastly, in a comment of yours that won’t be posted, you take your hyper-authoritarian, questionable attitude towards actual mature women – as in integrated in their life experience and comfortable with themselves, self-knowledge, etc. – to an unacceptably obnoxious and rude level in what you said to Melissa.
So, while you may fancy yourself an authority in some theoretical, philosophical views on sex and relationship, you come off quite poorly when it comes to showing due respect for a woman who called you out for being presumptuous, etc. It’s quite clear that you’ve got a big charge on the sex aspect of the situation pertaining to Wendelle Stevens. But your failings as a man are painfully apparent in your nastiness towards Melissa.
Maybe you’re a bit too focused on the male…domination aspect of the “relationships” you are promoting and a bit deficient on the finer points of being a real man who can handle discussion with, and disagreement from, a woman, an equal, who isn’t some fairy tale version of a very young girl, which you’ve also distorted into something that comes off a bit perverse if not perverted.
We don’t have agree on this blog but there’s no tolerance for arrogant and disrespectful behavior.
It’s all quite simple, really.
First of all, a woman is not equal to me, I’m a wise man, who is superior to other men let alone women, who are the average people of any race and oriented at hedonism and greed rather than objectivity.
NOTE: The above is all that I’m approving for posting in this comment from Matthew Deagle. He apparently forgot to read Meier’s article titled, To Be of Equal Value.
I think he forgot a lot of other things as well, or never learned them. One thing is certain, he doesn’t like having a woman put him in his place. So we won’t put him in the position of possibly having to experience that many times here.
MH
Regarding Matthew Deagle’s version of the spiritual teaching as it applies to young females, etc., etc., etc.:
“Hi Michael,
That’s delusional nonsense, mildly speaking.
Thanks and Salome
Christian”
Regarding Matthew Deagle’s version of the spiritual teaching as it applies to young females, etc., etc., etc.:
“Hi Michael,
That’s delusional nonsense, mildly speaking.
Thanks and Salome
Christian”
Once again you’re dead wrong and Christian is full of it, as was the case before with the absolute idiocy whereby you all believed Pi = 4/√Phi a while back. Yes, they did, they believe the ‘real Pi’ is the above value which exceeds even a polygon approximation of Pi. You’re simply stupid people who don’t understand a thing Billy is talking about.
Christian is full of it, he’s full of wisdom and knowledge that far exceeds your understanding of Creation and all its creations. You could learn a lot from him if you’d remove that brainwashing and prehistoric mindset. Free yourself from your bigotry and you’ll be surprised at how much freer you become. Those chains keep you from seeing the true beauty of being.
Hi Matthew
A friend of mine who died rather early a while back,said:
“The pedophile got a year in prison, and I got a life sentence”.
He was 11 at the time it happened.
We live in a very degenerated world, where women have been molded, to act/dress/expose the body and so on, in a certain way, to get by in this macho, misogynistic world.
When did women get the vote in the uk………..1928!!!
But still were considered 2nd class, as is the case in some Arab countries today.
Here in the uk, a woman will get less pay, for doing the same job as a male. That does not sound right to me.
https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/independent-inquiry-child-sexual-abuse
Church of England forgave pedophiles en masse, allowed them to continue working with children, inquiry finds
https://www.rt.com/uk/502690-church-of-england-pedophiles-inquiry/
https://www.rt.com/russia/502718-russian-church-beating-children/
CHURCH OF ENGLAND FAILURES OF SEXUAL ABUSERS TO HIDE.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54433295
This is about a well know pervert with connections to royal family and other wealthy celebrities.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34965912
Under Teens being sexulized ..Just Sic.THIS IS FOR PEDOPHILES
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/498572-cuties-netflix-child-sexualization/
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/472212-children-sexualize-media-stop/
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/501300-netflix-cuties-bad-reputation/
At last this is being looked into
‘Cuties’ goes to court: Netflix INDICTED by Texas grand jury for lewd depiction of children in controversial film
https://www.rt.com/usa/502755-netflix-cuties-indicted/
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/500507-cuties-review-culture-war-fight/
This abuse of children must stop.
How a religion can be bad for ones health.
https://www.rt.com/news/505156-shooter-orthodox-priest-lyon-france/
Salome
Regarding Matthew Deagle’s version of the spiritual teaching as it applies to young females, etc., etc., etc.:
“Hi Michael,
That’s delusional nonsense, mildly speaking.
Thanks and Salome
Christian”
Yes, yes it is delusional. ha ha!
It’s amazing that we still have these ridiculous ASSumptions, especially from someone who claims to “study” the spiritual teaching. I don’t know if it’s ignorance or stupidity, but only a grossly misguided or brainwashed human being could believe that gender has anything to do with intelligence and capability.
BTW he also cites the Plejaren waiting until ‘70’ to marry.
That refers to men only.
Semjase said they marry at 12.
Quetzal referred to the age of 14 as cohabitation and marriage.
That is, a man must be 70, but a woman may be 12.
Probably the minimum age for a woman is 12 and the typical age of cohabitation with a man aged 70+ is age 14.
I guess it needs pointing out that the level of maturity of the Plejaren is light years beyond ours at all stages and ages. Our fixation and overemphasis on sex is also apparently not shared by them.
Here is what was actually said about Plejaren marriage, which is completely different from what was said above by someone who has not yet had clarity on the matter. Hopefully that person will strive for more knowledge and clarity in matters that they clearly don’t understand.
Quetzal:
40. With us, at the 14th year of age, the full responsibility for the female and male gender begins, and from this time, one can devote oneself to a life partner, with whom one lives in an unmarried relationship during the following period up to the 68th year of life.
41. During this period, it is decided whether the two partners will remain together for their entire lifetimes or not.
42. In this time, which represents an actual probationary period, the couple can decide for a final, life-long relationship or to separate at their sole discretion at any time.
43. If no separation takes place, then an additional two-year probationary period is attached, during which the couple has to separate and live far apart and fulfill their duties.
44. No personal contacts take place during this time but only contact conversations over the usual means of communication, which also extends to holography contacts.
45. During this time, the couple has to decide definitively as to whether they want to enter a life-long relationship with each other or not.
46. If the decision is positive from both sides, then a free marriage alliance takes place, which is announced publicly, but it is not closed, as on the Earth, by a registry office.
47. The partnership is so free in every relation that no constraints can appear and each partner can preserve his or her own personality as well as everything that is in his or her own best interests.
48. Infidelity, as this is known among the Earth-humans, has no longer existed with us for tens of thousands of years.
49. The entering of the marriage alliance is committed with us with a small ceremony, whereby the relevant spirit leader, who monitored the exact circumstances of the couple during the previous two probationary years, leads everything.
50. And for thousands of years, it has no longer happened that a partnership had to be designated as unsuitable by a spirit leader.
51. A marriage alliance may first be entered at the age of 70 years.
52. And if a couple first becomes acquainted with each other after the 70th year of age or shortly before it, then an unmarried relationship of seven years is assigned to them, after which the special two-year probationary period is to be passed through, before a marriage alliance can be closed.
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_226
Regarding Matthew Deagle’s version of the spiritual teaching as it applies to young females, etc., etc., etc.:
“Hi Michael,
That’s delusional nonsense, mildly speaking.
Thanks and Salome
Christian”
Dear Sir,
You definitely had the good fortune of having known
Mr. Wendelle Stevens personally. I bet it felt pretty unique to be around him and learning all about his work with Billy, the most important job in the history of human kind. What a privilege that must have been for you!
You mentioned that “The truth of the Meir case lives with each individual. Just as with the Bible,Koran and teaching of Buddha along with dozens of other masters that have passed on knowledge to us earthlings..”
Firstly, I happened to have studies all the major religions of the world. Not only did I study them I also LIVED with the people of these religious people. I can personally testify that they are indeed the biggest hypocrites of all times. What is on their books and what they ‘preach’ are not at all what they ‘practice’.
Secondly, the sexual abuses are rampant in these sects. Even the ones who tell you they are a ‘science’ and not a religion and who promote celibacy have scandalous sexual abuse cases many of which have been going on for over a generation!
They even write books on how to ‘surrender’ and how to accept the ‘guru and disciple relationship’ so that the victims stay silent.
When you say ‘Its our own decision on how to interpret and internalize the messages’ is actually incorrect because when I did that I was always ‘corrected’ on my interpretation of the messages. There no room for interpretation just CONSTANT confusion instilled by the preachers, masters, etc.
So, for me it’s easy not to ruin my eyes by looking into other cases. I keep them for the real truth because as you say, life it too short.
Wendelle Stevens was a good man; I met him.
I too studied most of the religions & agree.
Bhante was an exception & lived in honor.
BEAM actually spent time with him.
They even had to issue a book on Wendell Stevens… such a pathetic attempt:
https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/The-CIAs-CONspiracy-Against-Wendelle-Stevens-by-Steven-Cambian-author-Kal-Karlton-Korff-author/9798686969674