Apparently not content to have made utter fools out of themselves with their inept, inaccurate attacks on the Billy Meier UFO case and its evidence and information, noted pseudo-scientific skeptical poseurs and wannabes, Stuart Robbins and Derek Bartholomaus, seem to have self-administerd their own coup de grace.
Since, as this blog states, Bartholomaus has had 11 years in which to perfect his bumbling incompetence, which he indeed has honed and polished to a “T”, his confused, meandering musings are both comic relief and an indictment of the inane skeptical movement itself.
While there actually are skeptics who are infinitely smarter than either of the two rubes above, even the best of them flounder badly and get in over their heads when they venture into waters far too deep for them, as Tom Quinn found out himself.
Great work again Michael, I must say I am no longer suprised by these silly “so called skeptics”. It seems that I will only be suprised when one of them actually finds it within themself to use logic, reason, and due dilligence to research for themselves, the actual work published by Billy, and the documentation of corroborative evidence that REALLY exists. I guess that I am a little stunned at the ease in which they all seem to stick their skeptical foot in their skeptical mouth, and so quickly. It would seem that they don’t proof read their rants very well, after all one would think that they would detect the rediculous tone, and the obvious lack of focus and research of their words, at least somewhat before clicking the “send” button.
And they don’t provide links to what they are claiming. And they are coming in saying the case is a hoax. At the very least, one should come in without preconceptions. Also, which “Ufo believers” is Derek asking at 21:26?
Isn’t interesting to, that they delete any comment that contradicts their position?
One more thing and I’m done. Derek states that Meier claimed that onle he is the actual contactee in the world.
…except Meier never claimed this, what is actually the case is that he’s the only visual prophetic contactee. There was scientists that actually got impulse contacts.
If he did his homework, he would know this.
Bartholamouse is a pseudo researcher. Pathetic at best.
Stuart is a pseudo scientist/intellectual, a wasted talent.
Tom Quinn is a run’o the mill cynic(pseudo authority).
All are pseudo humans.
What a true statement.
Thanks for the putting this blog up Michael. It appears Bartholamouse did not read Conttact Report 251 talking about why the Plejarens did not reval there true name in order to see who the frauds are. It is really sad the the ufo community does not support Billy Meier.
Interesting, now the podcast is down.O_o
Hmm.
I’m bothered by the fact that you always like to point out the logical flaws in others. I suppose its necessary, and helpful in some regards.
But if its an illogical mess, what’s the point of reading all the illogical arguments? It’d be like setting out to read up on every religion on the planet just because they existed…
Scientists have this little theory that they should only look into things that fit within their frame of reference, because to consider every frame of reference would take too much effort. So, if we are to take the Meier materials as true, they should simply stand on their own. Taking issue with idiots is itself idiocy…well I guess unless they (the idiots) are in positions of power (then its morally and ethically necessary).
Let’s focus on attempting to fix the planet/politicians, rather than listening to fools on fools errands. Sound like a plan?
I am not sure it would be a good thing if they suddenly accepted the truth of the contacts,after all they have already compromised themselves. This guy demonstrates a massive ego with his words,that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Hi Anonymous , I think the answer to your question just might be in your third paragraph — I guess unless they { the idiots } are in positions of power { then it’s morally and ethically necessary } .
Then I feel that also applies to the debunkers concerned as these people use their influence to mislead people and that is their power , which at times needs to be rebuked .
Few 100% true Reasons why Atheism is TERRIBLE and unhealthy for our children and living things:.
† Atheism is a religion that makes you angry, stupid, brainwashed, ignorant & blind.
† Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated.
† Atheism makes you post stupid things (90% of silly comments here on CNN blogs are posted by closet Atheists)
† Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle.
† Atheists causes problem in our religious society.
† Atheists are mentally ill, that’s why they have no faith.
† Atheism won’t take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise.
† Atheism making you agree with Stalin, Hitler (Denied his faith later), Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders.
† No traditional family lifestyle, no holidays, no culture, boring and feeling ‘outsider’
† Atheists are angry, drug additcted and committ the most crime.
† Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel “safer” behind closet.
† Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don’t believe in God and argue with religious people.
† Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved.
† Most Atheists are uneducated… No Atheists could run for presidency.
† Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.
† Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.
† All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don’t believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.
† The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)
† Countries where Atheism is prevalent has the highest Suicide rate & Communist countries = Atheism!
**Only 2-3% of the U.S. are Atheists/Agnostics VS. over 90% who believe in God (80% Christians) in the U.S.**
† † Our Prayers goes to Atheists to be mentally healthy and seek their creator † †
here’s why our progess is slow because people like this guy, who post illogical things, still believe he is going to be saved and go to heaven.
Uh Gheezy, except the bible isn’t always right because its a distortion of the Talmud Jmmanuel.
And of coarse that God is purely an imaginary creation thought of by the Bafath.
Forgot to put my source in: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Giza_Intelligences
Gheezy, Atheists really don’t cause any problems. Also, if a religious person was to ask any FIGU member what religion he or she follow, hey wouls answer them by saying they don’t believe in any gods.
Mario and Sarah, did you not read this part of gheezy’s post – “here’s why our progess is slow because people like this guy, who post illogical things, still believe he is going to be saved and go to heaven.”?
lol thanks sheila!
Gheezy I am compelled to respond to your ‘revelation’ – I imagine your thesis will be ‘nailed’ on the doors of atheist and non Christians alike. Keep up the good work, the world really needs your kind…you have no idea.
“† Atheism is a religion that makes you angry, stupid, brainwashed, ignorant & blind.”
Paradoxically you state ATHEISM is a RELIGION. Define Religion – well it clearly means a belief in and worship in a superhuman controlling power – god or gods. Quite the opposite to what atheism describes. You cannot use that in the same sentence it seems.
“† Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated.”
Perhaps you referring to DOGMA being that untreatable disease. No science can cure it…never will…because its found that the human mind is so far far gone….it’s impossible.
† Atheism makes you post stupid things (90% of silly comments here on CNN blogs are posted by closet Atheists)
Such as??? Perhaps your referring to the stated FACT that Jesus was actually a mortal, which disappoints you because all this time you were ‘told’ his GOD’s Son or even GOD himself. Well I guess when it involves teachings of Jesus and God people always end up disappointed. He has not returned – it’s 2012, still no sign. And that should answer skeptics regarding statements made that was not carried out. Same thing really, since they accuse Billie of doing so.
“† Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle.”
Well sorry to burst your bubble but God (the bible gods) is an Atheist, he did not believe in those other gods disturbing his garden. Gods fought wars, had sexual relations with daughters of man, destroyed whole cities, brought on deluge and we are asked to put our trust in that???
You refer to satanic as if it is a description of a devil. There is no such thing because if you research Satan you will learn it is an appellation describing a group of beings rather than a person or single angel. Ha Satan meaning The Satan, who in fact is the group of Aliens from Sirius star system. One of the members had sexual relations with Eve and therefore YHWH was not please. Eve carried twins – Bi-Paternal twins, Cain was the son of the Sirius dude and Abel of Adam. When able was killed and could no longer carry the blood line then Seth was relied on. Genesis – mans genetic history tells this very story.
“† Atheists causes problem in our religious society.”
Ok so you only see it as atheist, but fail to see what Islam and Christianity has wrought. Terrorism is an act carried out by Muslims. Jews kill Muslims and Muslims kill Jews. Christians killed many. All those guys signing away their lives in war are supposedly religious.
What about Koresh (or whatever his name is)?
What about the Queen who’s title says no one except god can only judge her? Are all these things religious and holy? And are all these things not the cause for religions separations? So who and what really is the problem here?
“† Atheists are mentally ill, that’s why they have no faith.”
What has religious followers faith earned them? Let’s discuss this…if you wish
Faith was not meant to build an apathetic society – but it did.
“† Atheism won’t take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise.”
Correct it won’t – UFO’s will because that’s what it takes to get to space/heaven, same thing really.
The paradise you refer to was meant to be maintained here on earth from all those religious laws prescribed but instead it turned out to this hell. How is it that many believes we suddenly go to heaven hereafter but yet they cannot create a peaceful situation here.
“† Atheism making you agree with Stalin, Hitler (Denied his faith later), Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders.”
The USA leaders are Christians – when they send their troops to bomb children and women in foreign lands, how do you think that story will read a thousand years from now? The Christians from the west killed as many muslims as they could. Sound like an excerpt from the bible.
“† No traditional family lifestyle, no holidays, no culture, boring and feeling ‘outsider’”
Sadly it seems this is too the reality of the 3 billion poverty stricken masses. No Christmas while you enjoying your lunch, no holidays, total feeling of isolation and sadly they are follows of ‘God’. How does your theory sound now?
“† Atheists are angry, drug additcted and committ the most crime.”
Some of the Popes managers or shall I say bishops have sodomised kids and church leader continue to extort believer to build monuments of worship yet people don’t have suitable housing. Yet you don’t see that as a crime to humanity. Drugs are found in all religions too.
“† Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel “safer” behind closet.”
And you are the Internet Saviour I presume.
“† Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don’t believe in God and argue with religious people.”
So if so then your blog is in vain???
I would add that religious people don’t really exist because we still find perpetual disintegration and ills in societies. If religions truly followed the essence we wouldn’t have this hell on earth.
“† Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved.”
I so would like to point out religious families who end in divorce and abuse their children and so on, but you can find this proof in every community. So no need to type it out here.
“† Most Atheists are uneducated… No Atheists could run for presidency.”
Thankfully they wise enough not to. You speak of presidency as if they such angels. Why are there wars and famine and cultural separation and borders and and and? LEADERS I guess.
“† Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.”
The revolt of any people means they raised themselves from apathy and took charge of situations. What did you expect? They rather allow kings and queens to live lavishly while the peasants slave to upkeep the maonarchs protocol? I’m surprised the Brits are continuing with this silly monarch stuff.
“† Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.”
So can’t religions, they interpret a mortal man as gods son, claim heaven is a paradise for those who label themselves, and that sins are forgiven when you accept Jesus. So how is it possible with such limited thinking to even savvy the origins of the universe if someone attempted to explain it?
“† All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don’t believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.”
I’m not an atheist, and nor do I have a religious label, yet I don’t subscribe to evolution told by Darwin.
“† The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)”
The Bible also said that following the way of the Romans is evil, yet our laws, justice, monetary systems and taxes continues to this very day. Ask yourself, are really a follower of Jesus’s prescribed laws?
“† Countries where Atheism is prevalent has the highest Suicide rate & Communist countries = Atheism!”
You should look into Iran, a religious country, where Muslims and Baha’is are suicidal. They’re not atheists except fed up with their wayward rulers.
“**Only 2-3% of the U.S. are Atheists/Agnostics VS. over 90% who believe in God (80% Christians) in the U.S.**”
Sadly only a few intelligent one, while the rest of your 80% signup to war against the world. Oh! How godly to lose your life for self serving leaders.
“† † Our Prayers goes to Atheists to be mentally healthy and seek their creator † †”
I’m sure their sympathy goes out to your 80% too. Most atheists follow the Humanist Manifestos – google it – humanist manifest 111
See for yourself if they are as evil and sadistic and satanistic as you describe them. You have a lot to learn about humanity and their failures and where it stems from.
Religions are thee most contributing factors towards the ills of societies. Religions once helped us but now they hurt us. Hierarchies are evil methods to enslave populations and continue to instill apathy. Who is making your decisions, why allow them and what have we achieved in centuries out of religions. These are some things to ponder on. Personally I don’t believe the messengers had intended to appeal to the unconsciousness – they really tried hard to raise consciousness but failed due to self serving clergymen – which your kind continue to blindly venerate. How sad.
I sagely prescribe you prayer for yourself and those 80percenters…
BTW God is not a singular being – and if it were it would be She, not He. We call it CREATION – all that is – the total sum – the absolute absolutum so to speak.
Hi Anon, let’s not forget we live on a planet that booes anyone that mentions the Golden Rule. Here a frame of reference to consider:
Well played sir.
i must say first of all, stunned and baffled as to why anyone with such thoughts as ‘gheezy’ would even care to read anything here.
Mr Quinn’s words are so familiar, i’d say clever rhetoric but its not clever, seems intellectual cynics are all wired the same, its really funny to me because its like they understand everything like it originated in the 20th century e.g e.t abductions, eco warriors, new age thinking and the idea that this race (plejaren) just evolved then discovered us in the 1970s. its selective critical thinking for sure, hes aware of ancient history but somehow blocks it out in this regard.
What i noted from the passage was his reference to meier losing his arm and making a joke of how that would have been convenient if he had of been warned(he was of course)that made me lol sitting here, these people learn really really slow. For sure they will never contemplate spiritual matters in this life time, they are like religious minded people, better left alone with their ideas and not subjected to anything profound or threatening.
Also this idea(that he also alluded to) about people of seemingly no consequence, that is to say judging them by their profession like meier(and myself for that matter)should not have this privalege of stating such information really sums up the jealous, antagonistic ,egotistic, irrational thinking thats prevelant among these(there is no other way to say it for me anymore) not so evolved spirit forms.
i only posted that above because this is what some people tend to believe in strongly. If you read the post completely, or have been on this site for a while, i usually post different things. I am a firm believer in what Mr. Meier is presenting to us. I only posted the above statement because this is the type of response i get when questioning those who are religious. They never have a logical answer just statements like the ones above, which i find pretty ridiculous because in other subjects outside of religion people can think logically. When it comes to religions, the religious lose all logical thoughts as long as they can attempt to prove that their religion is the real religion above all others etc. I am not atheist since I do have a belief, which most of us on this blog can agree upon 🙂
Sorry, my mistake. Misunderstand here.:3
Gheezy, I apologize for misreading your post.
no need for any apologies friends, i should have put the posting in quotes. I’m almost sure that any one of us who try to discuss the Meier case to anyone who is religious, will encounter these type of responses.
Oops Gheezy I only read this part now…
Humble apology 🙂
Interesting research on religion and thinking:
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/26/science/la-sci-religion-analytical-thinking-20120427
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=losing-your-religion-analytic-thinking-can-undermine-belief
I think the joke goes, athiests tend to rely on the material, religion on pseudo philosophy. So what does it mean for us who actually think?
I don’t think its a mystery at all. Those of us who think rely on material philosophy. Also known as logic.
Yea i don’t think you got the joke. But thats ok. You know Billy talks about the spirit right? Not just material.
I love your blog, Mike,,you are so funny, witty, and intelligent!
Thanks so much from everyone, for helping Billy so much!!
I like the line,,”its like watching a movie after reading the script”, from another entry,,,lol.
Yes,,it is.
LoveB