Science slowly goes where Billy Meier’s already boldly gone…long before
Scientists have discovered a frozen dwarf planet far out in space in the inner Oort cloud, a region beyond Pluto* where they didn’t expect to discover such objects. “Finding Sedna so far away seemed odd and potentially a fluke. But this one is beginning to make it look like that might be a typical place for objects to be. Not at all what I would have guessed,” Mike Brown, an astronomer at the California Institute of Technology, said in an email.
And this article emphasized, “that this planetoid’s movements hint that an invisible giant planet perhaps 10 times the size of Earth could be lurking around the dark fringes of the solar system.”
Of course none of this “seemed odd and potentially a fluke” to the growing numbers of people worldwide who, thanks to reading Billy Meier’s abundant, prophetically accurate scientific information, don’t have to “guess” because they’re used to learning many things long before they are “officially” discovered by our scientists.
In fact, you can read a lot of specific information pertaining to such objects as were just discovered – as well as the “hinted” about Dark Star, the twin sun in our binary star system – in this 544th contact conversation between Billy Meier and Ptaah…from almost two years ago. You’ll also find information on a “long chain of meteors…on a course to SOL and the Earth” as well as four comets that “are likewise on a path into the inner SOL system.”
It’s just a matter of time before our scientists…”officially discover” all of this, of course.
*See also:
1958 – Warning to All the Governments of Europe / Prophecies and Predictions
Special thanks to Greg O’Brien and Tat_tvam_asi
I find it somewhat hilarious how “mainstream” scientists are often terrified to go outside their established core groups in the search of truth. I’ve researched many Universal phenomena where terrestrial scientists were simply too afraid to voice what they were really thinking for fear of loosing their funding. How pitiful our “scientific” community has become. They seem ruled entirely by ego and financial incentive. I could really care less about their standings in the scientific community. Truth must trump all, and it will as time progresses. We find ourselves at the precibus of worldwide truth, yet the powers that want to be continue to pursue insanity. It seems like such logical scholars would observe the laws of cause and effect and abide by them. The search for spirtual truths and the remaining elements seem outside the preeminent abilities of terrestrial mainstream science.
Sadly those who control the money supply,control everything. We live in another dark age, the new “god” is money!
Money’s been a “co-God” for a long time!
What a world to live in. To have been given the truth and watch it unfold within a world such as ours. It creates a lot of unnecessary feelings and emotions within the self. I personally wonder when the horse that I keep trying to hold back will finally truly break its confinement and become free.
I too have tried for many years to create a life that fits around personal thought and study. Compared to the pursuit of money and pointless activities and thoughts. Within the last year or two I have ones again given myself the time to be more thoughtfully active. I for one need to be more patient and precise with my thoughts and actions and maybe the world I want to see will become more focused.
We will see what part of the prophecies and predictions comes to the fore next…
Of course, all of the scientific information of the Plejaren will be accurate and ahead of Earth scientists. They are 1000’s of years ahead of Earth scientifically.
I would strongly suggest that all read – the 544th contact conversation between Billy Meier and Ptaah.
I would like to post a small portion of it below, which I think is very important.
Ptaah:
This, however, changes nothing in our attitude. If, in relation to the human beings and the behaviour of the American people, something changes for the better, for good and right, then we will also change our opinion. But we are very pleased regarding the ongoing efforts for many years by Michael Horn, whereby he has provided extraordinary services, which are of inestimable value. While we also acknowledge the efforts of all those people in the USA who tried for decades to form a FIGU group and also made an effort in terms of learning the spiritual teaching; unfortunately they have not achieved the objectives they claimed they wanted to achieve.
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Ptaah:
We knew that. That is right, yet because of your constant insistence we agreed, and over the decades we made it our duty to undertake the fathoming for predictions. Additionally, we also thought that we perhaps erred with our probability calculations, and the predictions and calculations could indeed bring about something with the Earth human beings – that they would just prick up their ears and at least change certain serious things, or even prevent them. All of our hopes, however, were a serious delusion to which we had succumbed, because the majority of the Earth human beings are so narrow-minded and high-handed that they build only upon their own unintellect, their own irrationality and illogicalness, and therefore they disregarded all warnings and good advice. In truth, there are, in all the countries of the world, only minorities who know how to profoundly use their minds, their reason and their logic, and who are willing to turn to the reality and its truth, and also to learn, to understand and to implement the creational-natural laws and recommendations.
Remember my prediction – an 8.5 to 8.9 quake will hit L.A. in July – Aug. 2014 time frame. I also said there would be a swarm of quakes hitting that area between 3.5 and 5.1 before the big quake.
“A magnitude-5.1 earthquake struck the Los Angeles area Friday night, jolting nearby communities and breaking water mains in some neighborhoods.”
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/29/us/california-earthquake/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Its epicenter was in Orange County, one mile east of La Habra and four miles north of Fullerton, the U.S. Geological Survey said.
Shortly after the earthquake, nearly two dozen aftershocks followed.
I remember your prediction, Tony:
“I predict a swarm of quakes between 3.5 and 5.0 hitting there, and then a 8.5 – 9.0 hitting LA this July or August.”
Why continue to destroy your credibility with lies?? You say you predicted 3.5-5.1, so as to have this recent one fall within the prediction (yet, as seen above you really said 3.5-5.0). If you wouldn’t have purposefully mislead, would probably have given you the benefit of the doubt and (if they get a few more) called this a “hit” for being close enough. Instead you come off as increasingly desperate, deceptive…and pathetic–did you not think I would notice this lie???
(To make no mention of the disturbing fact that I’m sure you are now perversely rooting for a massive earthquake in a heavily populated area come August, just to save salvage some thread of respectability around here).
In all fairness, I think that we’d have to say that those numbers so far look very close. While we don’t want anyone to be rooting for a massive quake, or turning the subject into a “gotcha” situation either way, perhaps we can depersonalize the matter and see if there’s some clear handwriting on the wall here.
For what it’s worth, last night I had a dream in which the date Sunday, October 19, came up strongly…but not about anything specific that I remember. I don’t recall it being connected to any event, earthquake or otherwise but it turns out that October 19 is a Sunday this year.
Two other things regarding this astrology topic. I think it should be back on the astrology thread. And I do want Tony to answer my question pertaining to Obama’s chart, i.e. is everyone who has that chart (whichever info Tony worked from) both a psychopathic liar and a strong potential US president. And if so why, if not, why not?
Hi Michael,
Yes, 5.0 is VERY close to 5.1!
To answer your question concerning Obama’s chart leads very far into the subjects of birth time accuracy, reincarnation and destiny. Three topics I will cover extensively in three chapters in my up-coming book.
But in a nutshell – every second in birth time variance can cause a major difference in a natal chart. Also, the process of reincarnation causes many changes in the natal chart, and therefore, in the life of the individual. Also, everyone has a different destiny, and only half of your life is destined, the rest is determined by freewill choices. The natal chart does provide much of a person’s destiny. I call it the blueprint of a person’s life.
Michael, to explain the science of astrology to non-astrologers, is like a rocket scientist attempting to explain how to send a rocket to Mars to someone who has no background in math or physics. For example, Obama is a pathological liar mainly because he has Neptune in the 10th house, square Jupiter in the 1st house, and square the Sun in the 7th house. Those positions also cause him to believe in a fantasy God. How many people on this blog understood what I just said, no one?
There are 5280 major factors in a natal chart, which combine into 27,878,400 different variations for that specific second of time. That’s a lot to attempt to interpret, and it takes a rare talent and many years to do that competently.
Above is a tiny part of what I have learned in the last 40 years of research, study and practice of the great science of astrology. I began studying astrology when I was 12. I know what I know is the truth, I have proven it to myself and many others many times. I couldn’t care less if someone disagrees with me, or is skeptical of my knowledge. They can scream, curse, ridicule, doubt, and be skeptical all that they want. All of that means nothing to me! They can stay away from me, they’re like flies pestering an elephant.
How come you never answered my post about Leos being notoriously honest? Obama is a Leo and I am surrounded by Leos who almost always say what no one wants to hear.
I apologize Sheila, what is your question again?
You are a pathetically angry, illogical, negative, unreasonable, weird, mentally ill human being. And you can’t keep your promise to keep your nonsense to yourself. And yes, you are 100% incorrect. Especially, calling me a liar. I don’t lie, 5.0 was an approximation, and 5.0 to 5.1 is closer than any Earth scientist can predict.
Tony,
Except you did lie…
You and Michael are of course right though, even I said the same thing–5.0 and 5.1 are very close, close enough even to be a hit in my book. But instead of letting it be, you deliberately changed your previous number– ie, lied. But that’s fine if you don’t want to call it that, you’ve never been one to use words by their commonly accepted definition.
In any case, there are literally thousands of smaller earthquakes that hit southern California every year. But, these recent ones maybe are a little bigger than the norm, and indeed with a few centered around the LA area…perhaps you are on your way to a hit. Or perhaps the prediction “a swarm of quakes between 3.5 and 5.0 hitting [the LA area in the coming months]” is virtually a can’t-miss prediction. I honestly don’t know, and couldn’t figure it out from my 8 minutes of research on the matter.
In any case, obviously if that big one comes this summer–tragic as it will be–it would be an impressive prediction. You’ve predicted some other quite specific things; again I say, we shall see…
I hold open the possibility that you may prove to have some predictive talent, but considering the yet utter lack of any demonstration of such, I can’t help but maintain (consistent with Meier’s teaching) my “illogical, idiotic, negative, nonsensical, 100% incorrect, etc, etc” SKEPTICISM that you are the prince and savior of terrestrial astrology as you seem to claim. Curiously, despite your claims to amazing skill, you have no online track record, save your 2012 predictions, which some say came in at 4% accuracy, you say 74%. I’ll compromise and say this was inconclusive evidence of either your skill or lack thereof (indeed, your Romney scandal prediction, for one, probably could be counted as a hit–the rate of accuracy for this set of predictions as I saw it was somewhere in between 4 and 74).
Again, I am not wholesale against the idea astrology can be done quite well – as you point out, the Plejaran allegedly have a firm handle on it. And I accept that. But, as sincere (albeit, unsolicited) advice, you are not doing yourself any favors by constantly berating people for maintaining the reasonable position I detail in the preceding paragraph. For the dearth of a track record, you’re simply not in a position (like, say, Michael is in regards to the Meier material) to be lambasting your critics in such a manner.
Regards.
Get lost! You’re 100% incorrect again, illogical, and you’re far too unintelligent to converse with.
Wow. Touche. I’m speechless. See my march 30 7:56 am comment below.
You sir, are a real pro.
And at that, I will try to get lost. Seems I’m having trouble holding my tongue of late though, so we’ll see.
Michael,
An unrelated comment (sorry):
Just completed listening to an old C2C, a pleasure as always, twas a delightful interview.
One friendly suggestion (yet, I realize how very difficult it is to constantly give a best possible answer on the spot in real time)–the callers question/attack was that “every creation needs a creator.” It’s a common attack of the non-theist worldview, thus I offer the following in the hopes it may help you more directly field such a question in the future.
What I believe is the “correct answer” to such a question, a classic logic/philosophic answer, is that the “every creation needs a creator” position commits the so-called “special pleading” fallacy. That is, though there is indeed some infinitly mysterious source behind all of existence, but positing that that source must be “God” does not help answer the question…it only moves it one step back — if God created the universe, what created God? That is, the statement “specially pleads” because why does God get to be the only thing that doesnt need a preceding cause? Nevertheless, it seems there must be some First Cause (indeed “nothing comes from nothing”)–yes, we and the believer both agree there, but to say that the First Cause must be a personal creator deity is a jump in logic… a jump that is justified by little to no evidence (and perhaps, it is a conclusion which is demonstrably false because of [among other things] the theologians so-called “problem of evil” [the problem of how an all powerful, all-good god could allow/create/tolerate such a misery-laden world]…your bit about prayer in the recent film was also a good way to show the falseness of the god-belief too…)
That understood, then it can be explained that according to the information (and a conclusion that sits better with human experience) is that this Source, this ‘First Cause’ – though unfathomable and infinitely mysterious to be sure – is an IMPERSONAL, NEUTRAL, creative energy…
That is, we, nor the Plejaran, can answer the How’s or Why’s (though we can continue to gain understanding as to the What’s), but positing the existence of a creator god does absolutely nothing to change that…
Anyways, I’m sure these thoughts are nothing new to you, but my two cents is that something along these lines is the best possible response to such an attack/question…
Always enjoy your work. Regards.
On the other hand, you could just not respond to the substance of the question and instead call the questioner a “stupid skeptic”, declare them an “idiot and 100% incorrect”–this way you automatically win the argument by declaring it so, and without ever having to put in any real work or thought! It’s a real gem of a technique. It has the added bonus of denigrating the opponent.
Please see my answer/request below (or above, or wherever the previous question shows up).
Andy, I often (but maybe not then) answer that just because there “must be” doesn’t mean that the genocidal terrorist, maniac “God” is the only option…and a very poor one at that.
Right, fair enough. Like I said, kinda hated to nitpick ya, because for one, its a difficult task, and secondly, only extremely rarely do I hear you give and answer that maybe coulda been a bit better.
Yeah, to further take my foot out of my mouth – because it is such a common statement, just wanted to help ensure you had a firm handle on that one; which, as I should have known, was unnecessary.
But, to be on topic for once – I am unclear what exactly youre claiming is the corroboration in this blog. Are you suggesting the “invisible giant planet perhaps 10 times the size of Earth” is likely the “Dark star” discussed in the 544th contact? Or something else? The 544th is of course a beast of a contact, perhaps I’m missing something… please clarify. Thanks.
Dark Star, previously not recognized abundance of objects beyond Pluto in the Oort Cloud, etc.
Right, the abundance of objects, I see.
But specifically, I just can’t tell if the recently found body mentioned in the linked article is or potentially is the Dark Star mentioned by Ptaah… if that is what you are suggesting…
I’ll take more time later to tighten up the specifics, running around with a bunch of stuff about the launch of the film online.
I always thought that this was an interesting thing for the Plejaren to say. That there was an abundance of planets beyond yet close to our SOL system in the Oort. Was always odd to think that multiple dwarf planets moving at similar angels could exist so far out into space and away from our own sun. Unless they were being affected by somethings gravitational pull. What are these planets holding onto out in this Oort cloud..
I like the way the second article in MH’s blog post here states it.. Last paragraph “Astronomers will have to find far more of these distant objects and catch enough of them travelling in the same direction before they can say whether a giant planet is lurking in the inner Oort cloud, Jewitt said.”
Maybe its a dark star? One thing is for sure, at this point this definitely brings us one step closer to what billy and the Plejaren were talking about. We now know as the Plejaren have stated, that there are an abundance of large objects beyond our SOL system. If and when it is confirmed to be a dark star out in the Oort, it will be huge! Time will tell I Suppose.. Maybe when the new James Webb space telescope(2015?) is launched this object will come to light..
ANOTHER LA QUAKE!
By Ken Schwencke, Paloma Esquivel and Louis Sahagun
March 29, 2014, 2:45 p.m.
A shallow magnitude 4.1 earthquake was reported Saturday afternoon one mile from Rowland Heights, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. The temblor occurred at 2:32 p.m. at a depth of 5.6 miles. (It was originally reported as a 4.4 magnitude.)
Updated at 2:40 p.m.
The quake was centered not far from the epicenter of Friday’s 5.1 temblor in La Habra. There have been more than a hundred aftershocks since then, but this one was the largest.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/earthquake-44-quake-strikes-near-rowland-heights-california-hc7udj,0,7895131.story#ixzz2xQatX1ob
This is another quake of the swarm of quakes between 3.5 and 5.1 I predicted will hit LA before the approximate 8.9 mega-quake. After a better look at the astrology, the 8.9 will hit between July 1 and September 30, with the first two weeks in July, and the last three weeks of September the most likely times. That’s the best I could do for now. If I get a more narrow window for the 8.9, I will post it.
My advice – get out of LA ASAP! At least 20K – 30k people will be killed, many 1000’s more injured, and there will be devastation everywhere. Buildings and freeways will fall throughout the area. Power and water will be out for weeks – months.
From http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/
4.12km SE of Rowland Heights, California2014-03-29 21:32:45 UTC9.4 km deep
5.11km S of La Habra, California2014-03-29 04:09:42 UTC7.5 km deep
3.61km ESE of La Habra, California2014-03-29 03:03:39 UTC6.9 km deep
6.5South of the Fiji Islands2014-03-26 03:29:36 UTC493.1 km deep
6.5113km E of Mohean, India2014-03-21 13:41:07 UTC10.0 km deep
4.49km NNW of Westwood, California2014-03-17 13:25:36 UTC9.9 km deep
For those who do not know the LA area, all 4 of the above mentioned California quakes are in LA.
From the “Keep your eye on the ball…We all live on.” thread of this blog.
Tony Vasquez – Professional Astrologer says:
March 17, 2014 at 2:10 pm
Hi Michael,
A 4.7 quake hit LA today. I predict a swarm of quakes between 3.5 and 5.0 hitting there, and then a 8.5 – 9.0 hitting LA this July or August.
I see all of the predictions and prophecies the Ps and Billy have made coming true. Mankind is not listening and changing for the better, which means they are getting worse – More selfish, materialistic, war-like, religiously delusional, politically corrupt, intellectually arrogant, and becoming worse know-it-all, know-nothing-important, people.
Those of us who know truth can only hope that someone or something alters the course Humanity is on, or the HP will be fully upon us very soon.
Note – I’ve adjusted my prediction slightly, but it is the same prediction – an approximate 8.9 quake will hit LA this summer – 2014.
Tony I have to tell you that you will never/can never hold a candle to all of the predictions from Billy. Is it good to know when a catastrophe is going to happen? I don’t think so because the more people know about your prediction the more they are going to “make it so”. In the middle of a horrible catastrophe there will be Tony screaming to the stars – look I was right. And what do you expect to get out of that? Flowers? More money? What?
It’s not a competition. I’ve said it many times, no one on Earth can have the accuracy of the Plejarens, who use time travel capabilities, and “views into the future” technology for their predictions.
And you’re incorrect about “make it so”.
I know it’s better to know some of the future than none at all. People can at least have a chance to avoid the catastrophe, like this coming LA mega-quake. Of course, most of the people will not listen, just like they haven’t listened to the predictions from the Ps, but perhaps a few will.
What do I expect to get out of it? My desire is to help those who can understand and appreciate the great science of astrology. The rest, as I have said, can stay away from me. Flowers and money mean very little to me.
And with your attitude, you can stay away from me.
Hi Michael,
As I have said, the astrology is VERY strong for a mega-quake in LA from today through Sept. 30. But especially July 1 – Sept. 30. I have been able to predict quakes in the past, never the exact date, but within small windows. And never the exact magnitude, only close approximations. If I had to pick a very small window, I would say it will happen between July 1 – July 7, and the magnitude between 8.5 and 9.0.
I don’t think the ground will stop shaking in LA during this waiting time. Don’t forget the swarm of quakes between 3.5 and 5.0 I predicted. People should take notice and leave LA as soon as possible.
Hello Michael. Did the big quake not related to some time in the future when the cars had no rear view mirrors or am getting something fixed up
That was the one that wipes out San Francisco, which may also take lot more with it.
Thanks
Was there a prediction from the contact notes regarding a coming earthquake in LA. Link? Thanks
Not anything specific for this time.
Mar 30, 3:57 PM EDT
7.5 quake on California fault could be disastrous. California earthquake rattles nerves.
LA HABRA, Calif. (AP) — Experts say a bigger earthquake along the lesser-known fault that gave Southern California a moderate shake could do more damage to the region than the long-dreaded “Big One” from the more famous San Andreas Fault.
The Puente Hills thrust fault, which brought Friday night’s magnitude-5.1 quake centered in La Habra and well over 100 aftershocks by Sunday, stretches from northern Orange County under downtown Los Angeles into Hollywood – a heavily populated swath of the Los Angeles area.
A magnitude-7.5 earthquake along that fault could prove more catastrophic than one along the San Andreas, which runs along the outskirts of metropolitan Southern California, seismologists said.
The U.S. Geological Survey estimates that such a quake along the Puente Hills fault could kill 3,000 to 18,000 people and cause up to $250 billion in damage. In contrast, a larger magnitude 8 quake along the San Andreas would cause an estimated 1,800 deaths.
In 1987, the fault caused the Whittier Narrows earthquake. Still considered moderate at magnitude 5.9, that quake killed eight people and did more than $350 million in damage.
Part of the problem with the potential damage is that the fault runs near so many vulnerable older buildings, many made of concrete, in downtown Los Angeles and Hollywood. And because the fault, discovered in 1999, is horizontal, heavy reverberations are likely to be felt over a wide area.
The shaking from a 7.5 quake in the center of urban Los Angeles could be so intense it would lift heavy objects in the air, like the 1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake in Northern California, where the shaking was so bad “we found an upside-down grand piano,” USGS seismologist Lucy Jones told the Los Angeles Times ( http://lat.ms/1houJzW ).
That would “hit all of downtown,” Jones said. “And everywhere from La Habra to Hollywood.”
About 150 aftershocks, including one of magnitude-4.1, were felt since Friday night’s quake, which forced several dozen people in the Orange County city of Fullerton out of their homes after firefighters discovered foundation problems that made the buildings unsafe to enter, authorities said.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CALIFORNIA_EARTHQUAKE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-30-15-57-15
I’m posting this last astrology related comment here but, PLEASE, any and all other astrology related comments should go on that blog.
Question to Tony V, the Astrologer. Since Obama’s birth certificate is in dispute for authenticity. How did you come up with an accurate birth time to start your research. You said that a second off would change things greatly, so I was curious to how you did this?
Thanks in advance for the answer.
Astrologers have his approximately correct birth data. I have done the work to correct his natal chart so I can work with it. Seconds would not affect what I said about him.
Michael has asked me to post any further information about the Califonia quakes, or any other astrological interpretations on the astrology thread of this blog. That thread can be accessed through the search bar in the upper right of this page.