There is barely any professional astrologer around the world who has the required information in order to reckon the character of any individual, or the outcome of any happening, or even to predict the future, etc. As a matter of fact the information and the basic knowledge respectively, that the astrologers always referring to, in terms of their calculations, etc., aren’t reliable anymore, because these information are based on star constellations that were observable from Earth around 2,000 years ago. But in the meantime the position of Earth has changed profoundly, hence the observable constellations have changed significantly as well, which means, that nowadays the basic knowledge of astrology is antiquated and therefore no longer accurate at all. As a result of this fact unfortunately all astrological calculations that are based on the antiquated information aren’t accurate and reliable these days as well.
With regard to the stars and its constellations, there is no astrological influence or impact to human beings, that control or even dictate either the thoughts, the feelings and deeds or even the destiny of any human being. Astrology is basically the teaching of the central sun – which is located in the very centre of our galaxy – and its galactic radiation and waves, which have an “influential” range as far as the edge of our galaxy and even beyond it, which means that the central sun sends its radiations and waves through the galaxy. And depending on the position of any solar system, and of its particular sun and planets, these radiations and waves are not only deflected or diffracted by the positions of any sun and its planets but are also mingled with the individual radiations and waves of the sun and each planet. Furthermore there is also an amalgamation with the cosmic radiation that eventually leads to a mixture of the radiations and waves of the central sun, the particular solar systems with their suns, planets and moons as well as the cosmic radiation itself. And depending on how the positions of the suns and their planets and moons of any solar system precisely are, this mixture of radiations and waves differ – as the result of the different deflections, diffractions and compounds – not only in its strength but in its consistency as well.
Well, this mixture of radiations and waves is constantly being absorbed by any living form. And regarding Earth and its living forms it is also being absorbed by any human being, but always in a neutral way, which means that this mixture of radiations and waves doesn’t affect any single human being in a controlling or even compulsory way. These radiations and waves only have a kind of “moving on” effect and a kind of a slight “animation” effect respectively on any living form and thus on any human being as well. Due to fact that these mixture of radiations and waves are disseminated around and through the entire galaxy and are absorbed by all living forms in a neutral and unconstrained way, it is therefore up to any living form, whether it wants to use the effect of the these radiations and waves either positively or negatively, hence these radiations and waves don’t affect the free will of any human being at all.
Based on the law of cause and effect, it’s always based on the responsibility of one’s own thoughts and feelings, as THE cause, whether any human being is happy or unhappy, and therefore it’s always the cause of their own thoughts, feelings, deeds and behaviour that form their own destiny in a good or bad way. Hence there are no natural influences in the entire universe that could force any healthy human being to anything that he or she doesn’t want to. It’s always lying in one’s own thoughts and feelings that determine, whether a human being either deals with influences positively, hence he or she can use them for his or her own benefit, or whether he or she lets any kind of influences affect him or her negatively. According to this fact there is no astrological power at all, that determines the destiny of humankind, and whether or not any human being is happy, wins in lotto, has a good relationship to his or her relatives, or whether there are good or bad happenings in his or her life, etc.
It’s always the sole responsibility of any human being and of his or her own thoughts, feelings, deeds, attitudes and behaviour that determine the destiny of life, and whether or not any human being is happy, copes with any problems in a positive and constructive way and keeps walking on the right path of life. The preconditions of any behaviour patterns of the personality and its character of any human being are based on genetic origins, as well as on good or ill-breeding by parents or legal guardians, as well as by a good and honest self-discipline and “self-education” respectively. Hence every human being is the smith of his or her own destiny and fortune. Of course there is a kind of “destiny”, in the form of many influences, given by the environment, which affects any human being, but it’s always relying on one’s own responsibility and on one’s own thoughts and feelings, whether any human being copes with and utilizes this “external” destiny negatively or positively.
From Billy Meier, August 2014, translated by Patric Chenaux
Oh my, I have lost count of how many kids have gotten hold of a piece of cat s**t in this kindergarten sandpit.
This could get messy!
Self-responsibility and Cause & Effect.
Just sayin’
Peace, you little parts of Creation, you!
Hey, I’ve been censored, attacked and prevented from making comments, etc. over the years on more forums, blogs, etc., for supporting the Meier case than you can imagine. (Here are about 70 pages http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,1075.0.html out of hundreds where I decided to persist in trying different approaches.)
Because you’re trying to hurt someone else without being able to even barely substantiate your attacks, those kinds of comments of yours aren’t and won’t be posted. You come off as a very emotional person who thinks that your feelings alone allow you to trample on other people. If you had wanted to specifically address the work, methods, class, etc., it would have been a different story.
Free speech also must be…responsible speech. I won’t be debating that any further. I suggest that you apply your energies, feelings and passion to other topics and that you be prepared to support them factually. You can always state things as your opinions, provided they aren’t more veiled attacks, etc.
Most perhaps, a couple seemed almost reasonable.
Jared, is it your intention come across as a contemptuous psychopath? The troll-meter is rising.
A little note here. The reason some of Jared’s comments don’t see the light of day here is that instead of saying something like, “Astrology is all nonsense, etc.”, he says to Matthew that his astrology is nonsense…without actually specifying exactly what is nonsense, etc.
To do so would require him to trouble himself to find out from Matthew, to have Matthew directly address his questions and challenges. Instead, he relies on what Ptah and/or Meier said at the time and he also fails to understand that it referred to things up until that time.
So no more attacking comments are posted until the attacker can engage in specifics.
Right, in 2013. This happens to be…2016. So you’ll have to think for yourself and not assume that certain things that were true in 2013 are necessarily still true, completely or partially, now.
They may or may not be. But in order to declare hm so, one way or the other, you’d have to be familiar with any new developments…especially the ones you condemn without knowing what you’re talking about.
Matthew Deagle
On May 3, 2016 at 10:54pm, you had this to say about your own astrological abilities:
“I guess I just happen to be far ahead of most people on this planet for whom this would be “impossible”. You are free to email me if you want and experience for yourself.’
Wow, really!! I’ve always wanted to meet a real Guru from India! You must be holier than holy. Lord have mercy!! Give it another ten years and you might be walking on water from the sound of things.
Jacobus, my suggestion is to chat directly with Matthew and see what he has to say, how he answers your questions, etc.
I originally gave space her to our famous Astro_tiny because he made very big claims, which he of course failed to be able to substantiate.
Nonetheless, in the spirit of free-thinking and progress, I’ve given space to discuss Matthew’s approach to astrology. But as we can see it quickly became saturated with attacks…and Matthew wasn’t making big, broad predictions, just talking about his approach to something that, in it’s “right” form, is indeed considered some kind of science by the Plejaren.
So, I recommend that anyone interested in actually discussing Matthew’s take contact him directly, which I can facilitate at your request.
NOTE: Comments from “Jared Farland” won’t be posted since it was found that his email address was a fake. Most likely his identity is too.
MH
I didn’t say I’m a “guru”, just that I am far ahead of those to whom this is “impossible”, i.e. materialistic-thinking Westerners. By all accounts, the Nadi leaf astrology in India is as accurate or more accurate than mine, but the method by which it was developed is secret. I don’t claim to be a guru or a master, just a scientist. As I said, I am still refining many details of these influences based on observation. The fundamentals, however, I have developed.
Ok, no problem. Sometimes its just best to agree to disagree.
One more time, in case it’s possible to pierce you stubborn, non-responsive mentality:
You failed to substantiate your attacks and no alleged third-person comments will be posted.
If you don’t like these rules, don’t bother to submit comments. You are also free to complain to FIGU about how I handle my blog.
Sorry Matthew, I had to send all further comments submitted by Jared to spam. He’s apparently not very mentally well. We wish him well of course.
Not everyone here uses, thinks about Astrology. Yet it always ends up either here, or there……
Very few people within my extended family are interested in it, to some degree or another, far less than those concerned with ‘other things’. What I don’t really get is the associated virtues, values shown in a way towards that which may someday be of great use? As so many things in life, one must continue within their own zeil, no matter what anyone may say. So as much as I know very little about ‘astrology’, it is as many things, mainly apparently misunderstood and actually someday will hold great power? I for one, as with all those whom find themselves within the surrounding thought empowering crutches of the beliefs or many, cannot but find a way to confront the issues with understanding, knowledge, wisdom, love, (deep seeded)feelings for others. With as much as some just don’t see us neutral folk on the matter having to go through this same old distinction, for never ending years… I for one am happy any sector of society uses Billy’s information, found freely everywhere within life, the spiritual teachings! Be it at church, work, at the park, on a walk, within ‘Astrology’, etc, etc…
MH has over many years, stood by as people word spar over astrology. Only at the end to be dragged into it by the hands of know it all’s, complainers, nelly naggers, getting caught up in the same old negative bs.
Changing, learning, creating as we all may strife to be in peace, here on planet earth…..
Most people know nearly nothing about the true astrology. They can only reach about 15% accuracy according to the Plejaren.
That includes me….. and beyond!
Has been hard enough for me in this life to see those things that bring true peace, love, harmony, wisdom, freedom, real respect, deep seeded feelings for others… A lot of words, like many others, that have lost much meaning on our chaotic world, with many ‘humans’. Neutral positive thinking, feeling, acting…. Living. Almost impossible as it would be to reach other levels whilst trying in our own way to move things along, on our world. One small step at a time………
Am I understanding this right in the future the descents of the old gods will make themselves known. http://www.solarsystemscope.com/ison/
in the left corner select space view, under options and select center on sun. the comet goes through the heart of leo and into lyra or pyramid. The week of nov 5 2013 is realy neat to watch. I will bet this not on a horoscope chart. Peace Billy Wilson
Amazing post. Thanks for sharing.
Please use your real name when submitting comments in the future
I posted a comment a few days ago and got two responses, but I can’t see either my comment or the responses here. So I’ll repost both and my response…
My comment: Billy Meier appears to believe that astrology is said to interfere with free will, which simply isn’t true. Astrology simply maps the planetary dynamics,. Our celestial DNA is like our physical DNA in that it indicates only potentials. Environment is the third fundamental influence in which our free will operates. And unlike our physical DNA, … Continue reading “Billy Meier: Regarding Terrestrial Astrology”
Melissa Osaki in response to Linda Goodman:
“Please post a link where Billy has said that astrology interferes with our free will. That’s definitely not something I have ever remember reading. Astrology is a guide, an influence, and a possibility, but it is ultimately up to us which path we choose in life.”
Melissa Osaki: Here are parts of the translation that make the claim…
“[T]here is no astrological influence or impact to human beings, that control or even dictate either the thoughts, the feelings and deeds or even the destiny of any human being… this mixture of radiations and waves doesn’t affect any single human being in a controlling or even compulsory way…. these radiations and waves don’t affect the free will of any human being at all…. Based on the law of cause and effect, it’s always based on the responsibility of one’s own thoughts and feelings, as THE cause, whether any human being is happy or unhappy, and therefore it’s always the cause of their own thoughts, feelings, deeds and behaviour that form their own destiny in a good or bad way. Hence there are no natural influences in the entire universe that could force any healthy human being to anything that he or she doesn’t want to.”
Hi Linda, isn’t that what I said in my original comment? Billy has never said that astrology affects our freewill. We make our decisions regardless of any influences, radiations, waves, etc. Can you link the contact report number you are referring to? Thanks
You are misinterpreting that translation, Linda. Billy is not saying astrology interferes with our free will. Billy is saying that our thoughts, feelings and personal responsibility are always the cause of our own destiny.
Sorry Melissa, I guess I wasn’t clear enough. Billy wrote that astrology doesn’t influence free will, falsely implying that astrologers make that claim. The purpose appears to be to dismiss astrology as irrelevant.
In past comments by Billy, he understands and supports astrology, so either he’s losing touch or this isn’t an accurate translation.
Ah, now we are getting somewhere. I read your original comment as Billy implying that astrology affects our free will. Billy is very conscious of the cosmic influences and I know that him and Quetzal spoke about it several times. It may have been with Semjase a few times, too. I know the Plejaren practice an advanced form of astrology which is highly accurate compared to ours. We will figure it out eventually.