A first hand report on what it’s like to actually work in the belly of the beast…and tell the truth about “alien abductions”
This is a very different video than any I’ve posted before and I think that you’ll want to reflect on many things in it and in the Billy Meier UFO case after you watch it, including:
“The CIA’s SOG team is a secret army that is equipped with every imaginable weapon, and indeed also with ones that even the US Army can only dream about.”
Billy Meier, January 15, 2007
Thanks, Michael.
Thanks for the interview, Michael. Was this man vetted in any way?
I agree with his assessments re: the capabilities of the government, and of our history. When I was looking into alternative stuffs, generating zombie files, I found that our history comprised the most guarded secrets of them all. We may not agree on who is at the center of this conundrum (he didn’t actually name any names, so I don’t know), but we do agree on how it’s happening.
I disagree with some of how he extrapolates to the future, but we do agree on the most important aspect – that humanity is worth preserving. Whether we will war with each other is not contingent upon our distinct, if arbitrary, races/cultures. We make war with each other when we compete for some resource, or when we try to impose our ways upon others. Of course I agree that an altruistic, creative peace is a worthy goal, but I disagree on the path we should take to get there.
Over all, Joe seemed to have a level-headed approach to these issues. I would be interested in how verified his military service is.
Michael,
I’m deliberately not answering more specific questions about Joe for certain reasons. More information may be forthcoming. For now I only repeat that it’s up to each person to determine the truth, and value, of the interview for themselves.
Who`s Joe MH?
He’s the guy…in the video, Terry.
Dear MH
Sorry for playing the devil’s advocate, but how can we know that ‘Billy Meier, January 15, 2007’ is accurate? Ofc. he is not the first (asside from Billy Meier) to talk about NSA mass surveillance. Thomas Drake, for instance, is probably even more interesting than Edward Snowden. Indeed Snowden said that himself.
I created a playlist with a new series of interviews with Thomas Drake here done by Paul Jay from The Real News. Very informative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sngqrHapYGA&index=1&list=PL9n5ITYVIzGCe5GIOYAHPPSyAmYzws5_1
Cheers
Rasmus from Copenhagen, Denmark
At this point, people simply have to their own due diligence and see if they are satisfied that Meier said what he did on the dates giv4n.
Oh, I got confused it seems. I thought this interview with “Joe” was from 2007.
I just saw the video on Joe. One of the reasons I joined wespac is because I knew after 9/11/01 is that Bush and Chaney set this garbish up so they can have their stupid war just like any other politician can. “I have yet to see one good politician who is willing to not lie to the public for the sake of the human race here on Earth in the facing the real fact the we humans of Earth cannot keep waisting away our lives with corporate so-called money to just keep fighting wars internally forever and mesing up this planet for their discusting money making profit motiuves. This to me is what is left over from the Bafa Giza Jerks and the MIBs from the Sirius B Solar System. I can seriously strongly relate to what Billy Meier and the Plejarans are trying to warn the people of Earth about in the coming two civil wars and nuclear wars if we don`t learn to co-operate and get along with one-another. I remember years ago on the Opra Winfrey Show years ago when she had Gary Zukav on said this world Earth is a classroom of lear4ning how to get along with one another and in the spirit of co-poration we must learn and teach each other how to get along without all these hang-ups such as racism, opions cultures, customs and so on. To me this is the ONLY way we will ever survive here on Earth in the first place. to me this is what the Spritiual Teaching is all about. It`s about love, reason logic freedom and peace and NOT these stupid facades that these hideous liesrs,the so-called policies,corperate cheats who fthe life for rmoney, profit, and war are trying to just kill ALL of us off so they can move to Mars for their bloody real estate profit motives etc! As I have said before in my last post we are NOT native of Earth in the first place,never have and never ever will be from Earth! We NEED to face this now and forever or else as Klaatu in the original The Day The Earth Stood Still said bluntly and directly “Join us or face abliteration(anhiliation)!” It`s high time we started to get over this or else we WILL be anhiliated! The time is NOW! We NEED to “GROW UP” and start acting like reasoning logical human beings. “NO wars,NO environmental destructions, and so on. It`s time to get our act together and star to behave ourseves with out hate and wars!”
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The end games Joe mentions don’t add up. Why plan for climate change so that the “industrial complex” can get ready to get off the planet? Let’s put this into context: The military industrial complex does have advanced tech. but the P’s already explained that terrestrial ships are limited to terrestrial space. They’d like to make us believe, through sincere people like Gary Mckinnon, that they have off-world officers and bases, but, this may be part of gigantic bluff to maintain the illusion that they are in control to buy time like the first fake moon landing. They’re probably terrified that Russia will develop off-world craft first or something. More likely, Joe is faithfully recounting the stories private soldiers are told to give the tech they use some context & to put the fear of God in the soldiers, “Don’t argue with the man or we’ll come gas you at night”, “There are no ETs – it was us all along” half-truths. Joe seems to have undergone a cultish rite of passage which serves to isolate soldiers from normal “stupid” people who believe in UFOs. “Look at the stupid humans explode – We are the aliens – Oorah”. Bits of truth then that corroborate what Billy says, but, with his essential details left out as usual.
Joe was talking about the non-existence of “aliens” on the planet, working with th4e government, abducting people, etc. There are things that may or not be completely accurate, as is thre case with most people. However, Joe’s knowledge about certain things, like alternative craft, etc., comes from VERY close personal experience.
You spoke to him at the end of the day Mike so you’re going to be in a better position to understand where Joe is coming from. I can only go on when he says, “…I would love for there to be aliens out there, but, the conspiracies that spread around where we’ve contacted alien life, where we’ve captured alien technology, you don’t have to look to the stars to see wonders…” and that does contradict what Billy has done and said. What’s most interesting to me about this video is that Joe shows no interest in the case, but, his experiences prove that the information from Billy is correct.
Matt,
I’ve spoken at length with him about a number of things. He’s very favorable towards the Meier case but, again, is mainly referring to the “alien” disinformation.
I didn’t interview him because of his knowledge of, or agreement with, the Meier case. But there’s a very high overlap, especially considering he knew nothing of the case prior to our connecting. Again, his knowledge of alternative craft, weapons,etc., is very first hand. That doesn’t mean that he knows all of the truth but I think he knows ore than any of the “UFO experts”, conspiracy theorists, etc.
Very interesting Mike. So would you say that it was in your sharing the information Meier has given in regards to secret military tech, UFOs, etc., that lead to him opening up? I bet he rarely meets civilians who know so much already.
It was a combination of things.
P.S. I just saw the videos that is why I just posted this very long last post to get you guys to start to think and act or else we will face our very own destruction. that is what I love about Star Trek The Next Gneration and the orgiginal first klaatu. That is why I joined wepac and believe in what Billy and the P`s and Klaatu and Star Trek TNG are all about.
MH, Is this what Jade Helm is all about, to destroy us all so they can take over planet Earth?
Terry, I don’t know. But what Joe said about this being a many decades long training exercise corresponds to what I heard from another military insider that I know.
I’m sure your a good judge of Character Michael
However. Personally I would be a bit concerned with you being an important piece of the puzzle that there maybe a vested interest by intelligence agencies to find a way to pull you off course, so on and so fourth. I’m probably lover thinking it. There is no doubt Joe aside from his own beliefs and thoughts has presented some truth here. But again I’m a little more wary now unit only becausei woken up but I can only imagine that those of us who are proponents of the truth are in the cross hairs.
Too late now!
The mix master , the best way to tell a lie is to mix truth with lies and use a programed person to deliver the con . Brainwashing techniques are very advanced to the point that a person used to deliver the lie has absolutly no idea that he or she has been used , so they belive everything they have said is the truth , so all involontary physical indicators will fit with the lie being told .
That’s true but it certainly doesn’t mean that people who indeed have first hand experience are lying about it. In this case I think you’ll find that Joe is…extremely congruent.
How would you know that ? The delivery IS CONGRUENT that’s the point ; you can’t tell if they are lies .
Well for one thing I’ve spent hours with this person. For another his information jibes with what I know from another military insider and elements of it of course also correspond to what Meier’s said. More importantly, why would you categorically suspect that he isn’t truthful?
This kind of thinking produces confusion, so that the person who perpetuates it creates a situation in themselves were truth is lie, lie is truth, there’s no longer accurate, neutral discernment possible. So everything becomes a conspiratorial plot, which then accomplishes the goal of the REAL conspiracies, which is to confuse and mislead people.
Jacqueline do you even know what congruent means?
Michael , if they want to do a number on ” you ” they will make every fit in the story line .
Jacqueline,
And if you empower that kind of thinking it gets known as…paranoia.
Very well done. I am impressed with Joe and his bravery. To come out to lay it all on the table. I am also impressed with the tireless effort you put out. For all of our benefit. Thank you very much for another fine presentation. You must thank him (joe)for us. I hope that he gets better. P.S. I know Dave has been draging his feet about getting back to you about the interview. I will keep working on it. Salome Robert.
Very strong~! Thank you MH….courage and perseverance. Stay brave, strong and awake my friend…it is people like you that help change the world. Thanks, Arie
The young man is showing every sign of PTSD he is constantly scanning his escape routes, that never goes away, even while his sentences are in full flow he is still monitoring the area.
Hopefully he finds peace with that.
Things aren’t always what they seem. He has certain duties pertaining to where we were that necessitated his monitoring the…work related activities and duties of others.