People with strong religious beliefs may have nothing more substantial – or rational – on which to base them
One of today’s big issues has to do with people who “identify with” the gender they weren’t born, i.e. men who identify with being women and women who identify with being men. That simply means that they feel and believe themselves to be of the opposite gender, despite the physical and genetic evidence to the contrary. They consider themselves to be transgender and often pursue chemical and surgical options that they think will result in them becoming the gender they identify themselves as.
Scientifically, however, changing one’s plumbing, appearance, etc., doesn’t change one’s chromosomes or gender.
There are those who’ve correctly pointed out that, following such logic, someone who identifies with, who believes themselves to be of, another race, color, age, species, size, etc., should be equally entitled to be regarded and treated as such, with any and all accompanying and accruing rights, benefits, privileges, etc., despite any objective evidence to the contrary.
It’s an obviously very slippery slope.
Born Sinners?
I’m sure many of the people who see the obvious problems with such beliefs may not be quite so clear-headed when it comes to their own religious beliefs. In fact, people with strong religious beliefs may have nothing more substantial – or rational – on which to base them.
While some children at an early age start to feel attractions to the same sex, and/or feel and behave more like the opposite sex, how many young children spontaneously feel that they are “born sinners” and express relief that somebody supposedly died long before they were born to relieve them of these imaginary sins?
I haven’t heard of, or met, any.
Pounding Mush
People who have strong religious beliefs were usually indoctrinated into them at an early age. This is no accident. Deliberately pounding basically irrational, unscientific mush, myths, legends and horror stories into young, vulnerable minds is the basis of almost all religions. Such indoctrination, coupled to the authority of willingly complicit parents, assures the best chance of overriding any possible tendencies towards critical thinking and questioning before it can develop.
And of course with zero actual, testable evidence to support the objective reality of any religious beliefs, they are certainly no more valid than those feelings and beliefs that arise from within someone pertaining to their gender and that may possibly also have a genetic and/or psychological component. To the contrary, the religious beliefs have to be learned and accepted.
The Fear of Death
Since most religious beliefs have some underlying fear-inducing premise, based largely on people’s fear of death and what happens to them, if anything, after it, whatever particular religion one may gravitate towards – as an adult – is then a matter of choice.
That means that the actual authority is the person who chooses one religion or belief system over another, which also means that all of them are equally wrong, as they’ve all been rejected by someone in favor of the one the person has settled on. This also means that the real authority isn’t the religion, its god or whatever, it’s the person who themselves picks the “one true god and one true religion” over all the other claims of “one true god and one true religion”.
It’s ironic that people exercise some free will and self-responsibility in choosing their belief system…to which they will then turn over all self-responsibility. And, as frequently mentioned before, all religions rest on the illogical, inadmissible premise that, “What’s in this book is true…because this book says it’s true.”
So, while it may indeed be a practical, though difficult, necessity to require people who consider themselves transgender to not try to impose their feelings on society in situations that can pose a risk to other people, women and children included, such as with public restrooms, will the day ever come when “true believers” of the religious variety cease to push their particular, often peculiar beliefs on others – starting with their own children and let them decide and choose for themselves when they are capable of thinking and reasoning?
…im so depressed and feel sad because my brother is moving to another state with his new wife..I lived with him for 14 years until now..i just feel overwhelming sadness..i used to pray to God but now i know from the spiritual teachings that there is only creation…Can anyone give me any advice on how i should go about in my search for spiritual guidance when i need help during times of sorrow?
Double down on the spiritual teachings. Read all of the Plejaren contact reports. Read Might of the Thoughts. And GOTT. Every challenge is a learning opportunity. A chance to learn, grow, evolve, experience, reflect, and progress. Your brother is alive and well. Be happy for him. Maybe you can hang out with other friends or meet new ones? If everything was solved for you whenever you asked for help, there would be no motivation to try and learn new things and overcome personal challenges by yourself. Do something nice for yourself. Plan a trip to visit your brother. Use your CREATIVITY. Learn a new skill or craft or try a new hobby. Be optimistic. Be neutral-positive-equalized, and meet every situation head on with a neutral positive attitude. We only live a few billion times, so no need to waste this conscious living experience sulking. Cheer up. Exercise. Go for a walk. Become a little bit better every day, and every lifetime.
Eric don’t be sad.
You can choose your frame of reference.
Look on the bright side you’ve had 14 good years with him now wish your brother and sister in law a happy new life and move forward on your journey of independence.
No need for praying to anything on this one C’mon its not like you are going to have to visit your brother’s grave or anything.
The Psyche might be to your liking – particularly concerning the Three Golden Rules. Also for those times when your feeling down and out, plan to go to some open space like a park or a garage and shout a name, like a rooster cockle-doodle-doo in the morning. It can lift your mood right up.
Eric, the Goblet of Truth has questions to all your answers. If you read that book, you will get a lot of insight and be rid of all your baggages (i.e. all negative feelings), because it tells you what to do in any situation. Try it, you do not have to take my world for it.
Sorry, I miswrote earlier. What I wanted to actually imply in my earlier post is, “Goblet of Truth has answers to all your questions”, and not the other way around. Thanks.
Eric, You are experiencing a loss, which carries with it various stages of grief and sadness etc. Everyone is different, but accepting your feelings and not denying them, will allow you to heal and move forward…be patient….:)
What I have observed in over a half century of life in this society is that much of life is taken up with finding a suitable marriage partner and making children. For some reason, the man and woman actually believe that they are creating a new life which has never existed before, and that this life will be dependent/subservient on/to them for the rest of its life. Parents have children in a stranglehold and are unwilling to release that hold. It is for this reason that there are so many conflicts when the children reach the “age of majority” (which is still very young when you think about earning a living, etc).
Parents coerce children in several ways that I have observed. I’ll list them for convenience. 1) Instill in the child a fear of God, and that God is the father’s best friend. If you make Dad angry, you have angered God. 2) Schedule and over-schedule their time so that they never have any free time just to be kids. And be sure you drive them to all those scheduled activities. Then they will really become dependent on mom and dad for everything they do, except going to school 3) Don’t allow your children to choose their own friends, and if they come home with somebody you don’t like, be sure to talk negatively about that person until the child gives the person up. Same rule applies to dating. 4) Control what the kids eat. Make sure the child knows that it needs to eat everything that mom and dad eat (even if it’s the unhealthiest food on the planet) and especially that God approves of the choices. 5) Instill in the child a sense of guilt from the moment they become conscious of their own identity. Especially instill fear of offending mom or dad or God, for which there will be punishments. 6) Don’t ever admit that you (as parent) don’t know everything there is to know about every subject. If you don’t know the answer to a child’s question make one up that sounds right. The child won’t know the difference. 7)Bluff. Remember, God is right behind you when it comes to controlling this young human who is entirely your creation and that you will get every support you need from society when it comes to indoctrinating this new person.
I was never a parent, because I had parents. . . . .
Carolyn this makes me think of my youth as a quite rebellious child, whom for the most part always questioned what ‘religion’ and ‘sky daddy’ really meant…. Lies, control, fear, partitions, division all mostly dictated by parents and those plunged into the overly allowed option of being a parent, as almost still children within true individual thought themselves?
I lost a few friends as a child growing up with parents that acted exactly like this! As I have plunged into parenthood as well, it is good to know that my parents always gave me freedom, and much more in regards to ‘religion’, beliefs. As I will also do with being an example to my daughter, in being the realest human I can be. Within the might, power, ziel of the thoughts to action, always striving to live in constant neutral positive control of them. Not always easy but within seeing the individual, beliefs fade away with ‘creation’ all around us….
Eric, you might ask yourself why specifically you feel what you do. For example, what is it about his moving that has led to your sorrow? When asking oneself this you may find it is caused because you had depended on him for various things. Things like, friendship, support, fun, social interaction, shared interests etc etc. Now you may feel a lack of these things in your life.
Perhaps it is just a matter if growing up, which can occur at any age, and learning to go out into the world on one’s own to develop these qualities from your own actions and interactions from now on. If so, as Scott mentioned, have patience because that will take time.
My advice: Be brave and enjoy the new adventure.
Overpopulation , people re-incarnating too quickly, not spending the 152 years in the beyond, coming back to a material body without growing up spiritually first. Edward said somehow now the law of reincarnation is broken, people can return in 10 or 20 or 30 years. The earth human being is over taken with the material world while spiritual thinking is behind creating an inbalance , thus our world suffers the law of cause and effect.
Eric, I know from experience that advice sometimes carries little weight when you’re feeling a loss. So, for what it’s worth, I’ll simply share with you that when I was younger, even the smallest loss devastated me, let alone the loss of a loved one. I just couldn’t let go. Somewhere later on, that feeling of loss changed into a feeling of appreciation and gratitude. In other words, I started to think, “How fortunate I’ve been to have shared some of the best moments of my life with that person–or even that thing.” Somehow I celebrated not the loss, but what I gained from my time with that whomever or whatever. Thankfully, your loss is incomplete. Just my two cents, if it helps. Apologies for using myself as an example. Best wishes.
Edward said this kind of behavior if not stopped would roll over the entire world. Another prophecy coming to pass. If you live in Europe take precautions, he said all of Europe will shake and quiver. France would be thrown down to the lowest level of misery. Prepare yourself, chance favors the prepaired mind.
Actually I think it’s England that will be thrown down to the lowest level of misery and that France will fall to Islam from within and forces from the outside, etc.
You are correct, now that you mention it, my memory is jogged, all of Europe will shake and quiver and the fanatics of ISLAM will retain their power for a long time, France will be thrown down to the lowest level of misery, and will fall from within and without. Something like that. I’m going to read that section again, and make sure what I think I know is correct.
It’s here:
http://www.theyfly.com/henoch-prophecies
Thanks for the blog Michael, its a great way for those who study the material to network and stay informed on the world situation. Sallome.
Thanks for your contributions too Barry.
It makes me happy to see all of the great informed advice given to Eric. A great, honest display of empathy. Although I rarely comment on this blog I’m always paying attention. Most who are unfamiliar with the nature of reality don’t comprehend how critically important empathy actually is… In fact, it’s one of the most important keys to our survival.
I’ve always believed I’m a millionaire trapped in an average income earner’s body. Who’s representing my interests? 🙂
This blog actually lead me to double-check FIGU’s position on religious couples under FIGU’s birth rate check system (Spoiler: They can) and lead me to some info on FIGU Australia’s website about subjects we’ve been discussing here.
In particular, the following misleading information on abortion:
“When measures against overpopulation are in force, an abortion represents an act of self-defence and is not considered as murder, which quite contrarily would be the case if, e.g., a foetus is aborted because it has an undesired (= female, as a rule!) sex/gender.”
However, in ‘Conception, Consciousness and Personality of the Human Being’ the embryo and fetus are definite stages of pre and post entering of the spirit form, e.g., “This means, that the embryo no longer exists, but from now on the foetus whose tiny heart then starts to beat and to work.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Conception,_Consciousness_and_Personality_of_the_Human_Being
Also:
‘Then a new personality is “worked out”/developed which incarnates – together with the spirit form – into an embryo at the 21st day after conception.’
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Afterlife
It could well BE murder if the fetus and not the embryo is aborted, regardless of the overpopulation issue so I think FLAU need to rethink or reword Christian’s essay IMO.
Unrelated, but, to continue a discussion we’ve had on this blog, Christian aslo has the following to say;
“The interbreeding of national communities and races on a large scale must be avoided. The degrading “import” of “marriage partners” from foreign cultures has to be stopped, just as the misuse of marriage to attain citizenship of a foreign country.”
Source: http://au.figu.org/population_growth.html
With all this talk about abortion I have to get something off my chest and I’m interested in some feedback and thoughts on the repercussions of having and abortion. Prior to learning of the spiritual teaching and the Billy Meier case, my wife and I had an abortion. I hated doing it at the time and I hate it even more, now that I know what I did was murder. And I knew then too that it was murder but more in a religious sense. Case closed. To even type this brings tears to my eyes. Knowing I killed my kid and ended a spirit form prematurely has left me with an immense amount of guilt. Is this the punishment of doing this? Me having to bear what I did and the guilt of it? At the time I was still a victim of religious belief and rationalized it that when I am judged I hope god understands and not send me to hell. Now knowing the fallacy of the religious belief system I wonder what the punishment is of doing this. I don’t mean a punishment like what a god may do to me, but I wonder the repercussions of doing this. Because the guilt is immense and not a day goes by that I don’t think of it…
Perhaps you are already suffering the “punishment” in your consciousness, which you also may bring to an end through your realization and acceptance of what you participated in. If you are able to do that in a neutral and honest way then maybe the “lesson” has has been learned and completed.
Thanks MH. Being conscience of your consciousness isn’t always a good thing when you do wrong. Which is why I can see living an honest life, living under truthfulness, is very important because of the guilt you endure when you do a bad thing. Just another example of how the spiritual teaching just makes sense to me…
Even though I’ve asked for feedback, it’s like I already knew the answer. It’s obvious when you put some thought into it, as I’ve done since learning the spiritual teaching. But I sometimes need the reassurance of the masses to ensure I’m on the right path.
The sadness comes from your realization that there might have been a person in your life who you will never know. However, that person will be someone else’s child, so the only real damage you did was to yourselves.
Hi Adrian,
It does and could have happened to anyone of us. Imagine someone sharing what you shared with you and how you would respond. I hope you would want to listen and support them and not give them as much as a hard time as you are giving yourself. Making mistakes is an important part of life.
Religion fractures and polarises the issue of abortion IMO and tries to take the higher ground away from us through a double whammy of scientific and religious irrationality and extreme ideas. I don’t know what medical professionals are thinking, but, religion must factor into that too. It’s likely that with overpopulation, cheaper pregnancy tests are mass produced for huge profit, and the law kept an ass for this reason, rather than giving women cheaper and earlier-detecting, effective, options. From what I’ve discovered, the window for aborting is only a few days in most cases. That’s poor. Women should be angry about that.
Meier has helped many people to reclaim the higher ground of truth and that will involve a struggle of consciousness, tests, hardships to rewrite our histories. If you hadn’t come across the Meier case, there’s a good chance that empty peer pressure would have tried to convince you to accept your experiences in a spiritually dead, everything’s cool, kind of way, to insult your humanity and make you dead inside like them. At least you weren’t like that and found your own way have fully uncovered the truth and take responsibility.
According to Meier there is no punishment in the afterlife whatsoever. so you can relax about that. Also, you cannot learn from punishing yourself. That will lead to misery and strife. It’s enough just to be in the full knowledge of that.
I’ll wait to see if Jmmanuel did mention the 21st day in the new version of the Talmud Jmmanuel – hopefully out soon and to see if that information was known by the church. there’s a chance not, due to the limited understanding at the time, but, if ever I involve myself in a fight with anti-abortionists or liberal abortionists, I’ll be sure to bang their heads together to make one coherent stance on the 21 days issue.
Thanks Matt, I knew there was no after life punishment.. I was just curious of others thoughts on what kind, if any, punishment there is when you do wrong…. Like for instance having an abortion? Is it only guilt? And then learning from it? One of the very few reasons I liked religion was because when you hear of these horrible people that hurt little kids, or the mass murderers, or the theives, or whatever…I would always say there’s a special place in hell for those types. But now… Accepting the truth that there is no after life punishment I now wonder what are the repercussions of committing these horrendous acts against humanity? Then I think… If these types knew of the spiritual teaching… Like if they were taught this from birth, would they have ever gotten to that point where they could commit these deeds? Or would those ill thoughts been corrected by themselves at an early age? Because love is such a huge part of the spiritual teaching, how could anyone born into a world where the spiritual teaching is truth and are surrounded by true love…how could they commit those crimes? Like would they still be able to commit those crimes?
HI Adrian,
Understood. Those are all good questions. Delve, delve, delve into Billy’s information as the best answers to your questions are there.
My view is that, whilst laws are an ass, we can count on the hell that is already being experienced for those that want to harm others, in terms of a deficit of consciousness, which can also be attributed to religions, false ideas, politics, environmental factors, food, upbringing, pollution – all as a result of overpopulation that affects all human beings to a greater and lesser extent to act in extreme ways as well as all the negative psychological effects.
Those that commit crimes, hurt kids, should be segregated from society and given the means to survive, but, lose all of the modern benefits and comforts of society, in order to understand and appreciate them for the next life.
Within a few generations, crime would be reduced to zero IMO and those that still raise their ugly heads, would be easily put down = Peace.
So, in the absence of just legal systems, the “punishment” IMO is the degradation of consciousness, not living to full potential, unhappiness, strife and ever-worsening conditions if the degeneration continues and we see the results on the news all the time. There are the laws of cause and effect and some big effects are heading our way for the many crimes of overpopulation.
If the truth is that the spirit-form enters the embryo on the 21st day and the Plejaren say the heart starts beating then – even though scientists are only, currently, able to detect it 3, or, so, days later – there’s a good chance that, as we are human beings, this cannot go unnoticed on some level – where the truth can be ignored (I think Corey’s wrong about Plejaren being OK with abortion after the 21st day. CF’s FLAU article was a translation error IMO or did not fully explain) without thoughts about that appearing in the consciousness to a greater or lesser extent, or, other related, largely, unacknowledged, difficulties.
The solution, IMO, is to acknowledge the truth within us and to recognise the effects of not living with that, without, or, outside of, us into the world today and acknowledge that only very strict laws and regulations can guarantee the best chances of happiness, joy, peace and the situation can be improved tremendously.
The other thing we can do as citizens is to report crime when we come across it for the proper authorities to deal with that crime. Abortion to 24+ weeks is not a crime currently and the technology needs to be so much better to be able to effectively introduce any such laws after the 21st day, but, we could and we are not far away from that.
Just a correction – Corey stated the Plejaren consider it murder to have an abortion after 21 days.
Adrian, just know your true friends won’t care cause we all make mistakes. I used to blog on a conservative site where a thread was started to put restrictions on abortion (currently no restrictions on abortion in Canada). I went through the whole – I’ll stand by my friends who’ve had them and was beaten mercilessly until I said yes let’s do it, let’s make abortions illegal and let’s go one step further and make it retro so everyone who has ever had one would go to jail and make sure you look around in your own family because you’ll find someone whose going off to the hoosegow. They backed off as soon as they realized how it was going to affect them. I’m glad our politicians still have no appetite to restrict it. But I eventually got kicked off that blog haha.
You’re right Sheila… Sorry Corey – you said FIGU – not the Plejaren. I was enjoying organic white wine at the time.
Sheila describes the reaction of women to any suggestions of legal restrictions, put on women, around abortion, but, why listen to their protests as we head towards that worldwide birth stop that I thought we were all signed up to?
Had I the position, I would impose the 21 day abortion restriction tomorrow and impose heavy penalties for those ignoring it because of laziness, disorganisation, selfishness, ignorance, etc.
Well Matt considering the aftermath of a worldwide birthstop would include sending pregnant women off to get a legal abortion, why would you want to make it more illegal to get abortions now? In your UK it is illegal to get abortions after 24 weeks and you claim that your women are pretty effed up over it. I claim that with no abortion restrictions our women are not effed up. The proof is in the people.
Since there currently are no accurate pregnancy tests available to poor women to be able to get an abortion within 21 days, I guess poor women will continue to be jailed, but the rich women who have access to earlier detection will not. Does that sound fair to you?
Another thought Matt if you are to impose penalties on women who get abortions, where are you going to draw the line? Do you feel the father of the aborted fetus should go to jail too? How about her parents and siblings? Or her friends who knew but didn’t do anything about it or inform authorities. Would they not be accessories to murder? If so what would be their punishment?
“Well Matt considering the aftermath…?”
Because the exaggerated system you imagine hardly suggests your full support of the mission, and what you imagine would be averted if women handled pregnancy like adults.
“In your UK it is illegal to get abortions…”
No, I claimed that the non-religious western women’s coldness, wickedness may come as a result of unacknowledged murder and lead to conscious or subconsious problems.
“Since there currently are no accurate pregnancy tests… Does that sound fair to you?
Most women in the West would be able to afford the earlier tests now and I would hope, especially, that women aware of the info from Billy would not want to kill a foetus. As stated earlier, tests should be made free/cheaper in parallel with any more restrictions.
On your second comment: Only the woman can only bear responsibility for getting pregnant from consensual sex, yet, most visitors to this blog would think that only Western men grieve for the aborted foetus, but, I know from experience that this is not the case so who are you trying to fool Sheila? Is it yourself to justify empty protest?
Whilst you maybe only concerned for your rights and for the few dollar differences in cost for earlier pregnancy tests and want only to protest to do whatever you like – unborn children have rights too.
It says in the contact reports that once the worldwide birth stop comes into effect, those that continue to get pregnant will be rounded up and have abortions and will be sent off to prison for breaking the law. So I’m dealing with the reality of the coming times and how exactly does that not conform to the mission?
Every woman I know who has had an abortion, none ever had to have another and all became loving parents. Why are you only seeing coldness and wickedness from the women in the western countries when I honestly don’t see that at all. Of course they grieve, that’s never been in doubt. All I’m saying is everyone has the right to make mistakes. No, it’s not about me, I cannot get pregnant so you’re wrong about that. All I’m saying is it’s currently impossible to have an abortion prior to the 21 days after conception so the best solution would be the morning after pill. And quit trying to make laws against abortion when it’s not going to stop no matter how hard you wish for it. Let people deal with their own tragedies as that’s how they learn.
Hi Sheila,
“Rounded up” suggests mass resistance and is not mentioned in the CRs. Most women will probably accept abortion restrictions after 21 days once we discover the existence of the spirit-form, but, the fact that we know the heart beats around the 24th day, should be enough to merit changes now, but, the knee-jerk reactions of women today are preventing this.
Abortion laws as they currently stand were formed by British feminists and Britain was first to introduce laws and feedoms around abortion and the US and Canada often followed, e.g., the Infant Life Preservation Act, which amended the law (Offences against the Person Act 1861) so that an abortion carried out in good faith, for the sole purpose of preserving the life of the mother. Also, Stella Brown and other prominent feminists, including Frida Laski, Dora Russell, Joan Malleson and Janet Chance – all British. So your view of Britian being behind is completely misinformed. It would be more accurate to say that Britain lead the way with abortion reforms and Canada and the US followed.
I may be seeing the coldness because I am a man and am able to be objective about women. Women are also often to see the faults of men more clearly than men because of that objectivity. I also see many men in Europe seeking relationships with women from other cultures/religions. These men often put that down to their experiences of modern western women as I have described.
Most crimes are mistakes. Why should women be given special dispensation from paying for those and not men when they make their mistakes? If a man murders someone, should their learning from it be enough to ensure the crime does not continue? I don’t think so.
Don’t worry Matt, women pay for their crimes in their own consciousness. I just don’t think sending women to jail for having an abortion is going to help them or society in any way, shape or form. Considering that G4S is in charge of prisons I think you will see more harm done by this grouping than the harm committed from abortion eg) Omar Mateen.
You have laws against abortion in the UK. We don’t have abortion laws in Canada. So who is leading who? Did I mention there’s not a politician out there with any appetite to enforce restrictions on abortion? I’m not a feminist, I have a daughter and 2 sons and I can tell you that my son’s last girlfriend was bound and determined to get pregnant no matter how much I tried to council her against it. Lucked out when the cops put a restriction against my son and he was not allowed to see the crazy little wench anymore. Yes she ended up pregnant and I’m not the grandma! “Rounded up” simply means arrested. Since we aren’t in the future how would you know how many people will rebel against restrictions on birth?
Heard some good news yesterday that a pregnancy test is available to detect pregnancy 5 days earlier than previous ones which has the potential of ensuring an abortion within a week and before the 21 days after conception.
“Don’t worry Matt, women pay for their crimes in their own consciousness… appetite to enforce restrictions on abortion?”
We all pay, however, it’s does appear you think women should get special treatment, different from men. Canada not having any abortion laws is not “leading” anyone anwhere, but, misery when viewed in terms of where we should be heading according to birth controls from FIGU. Boundless liberalism for women around pregnancy is not taught by Billy or the Plejaren… ever. Also, history is important, but, maybe you don’t have enough of that to know, or, your nation turns away from that, throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
“I’m not a feminist… grandma”
Well, if your country has acquiesced to every whim of women around pregnancy, then you’ll feel the effects of that. Were strict laws in place around procreation (at least 3 years of marriage rule), that never would have happened. Laws are there for a reason and it’s incumbent upon the ones that know to pass that knowledge on through laws so that those that come after don’t have to learn the hard way.
“Heard some good news yesterday… before the 21 days after conception.”
Timely and good to know, thanks.
I don’t agree Matt because you will pay more by “forcing” a woman to carry a baby to full term if she doesn’t want to. Especially when you know that a mother’s thoughts and feelings are picked up by the unborn child. So the child will grow up knowing it’s not loved and is nothing more than a burden and think of all the countless issues that will create, probably turning that child into a psychopath. And we already have enough of those. I don’t see people here marrying into other cultures because of coldness or wickedness of western women either. Maybe that’s a UK problem? Or simply an excuse perhaps because foreigners are “easy” and are using pregnancy to seek permanent residency? Of course the 3 year marriage before having children would be ideal. But I’m looking at the way things really are as opposed to you seeing things as they ought to be. Abortion is not going away no matter how many laws are put into place to stop it. Of course we can all hope that if a woman is seeking abortion she will do it before the 21 days. There’s also the birth control pill and the morning after pill available.
According to the rules around procreation from FIGU, which I fully support, no unwanted children would be brought into the world. Any children born without having the required license for a good, healthy, marriage would be taken away and given to a couple who qualify for adoption, but, cannot have children themselves (parallelled with a ban on all IVF treatments). The mother, and father if he was aware, would then have to pay up to 10 salaries to support the upkeep of the child, but, would have no access to them. Trust me, people would suddenly find the motivation to be responsible, from somewhere, faced with that.
I’ve visited Canada and have relatives there and I don’t think you represent Canada Sheila, nor I the UK. We all have our experiences and it does appear you have issues with men as they don’t even exist in your reckoning, as despite what women from other countries want, men have a responsibility and needs met within that relationship too… which I have spoken to them about… from all countries… and try to understand.
I read in the contact reports that around the time of Merlin the wizards time of the round tables era. Husbands in that form of barbarity would force their wife to bury their newborn in the back yard only for the thinking that they wanted a boy and not a girl. Why feel guilty when you can see this has been going on for eons of time. Learn to be responsible instead from other human beings mistakes because we are human being.
..I thank you guys so much for the replies to my question..I knew you guys could help and you did help greatly!..I appreciate that!..thank you!
Here is food for thought: having come from a family who`s cousins run the risk of ehmophila,one of my cousins now has only women and girls on her side of the family since my oldest first cosins third child died when he was in his early thirties, thesecond cosin has hemophila but in his case the knees are replascable the youngest first cosin had to have three girls,hover ome of them could be a carierer. As in my case there were no vacines for the German Measals back during WW2 when I was born. Fortunaetly no brain damage for me,just cataracts and a hearing loss, for me abortion is perfectly acceptable considering there are disabled people in my family and for me personally I would NOT want anymore diabled people in MY personal family.This is just for my own personal benefit and feeling Personally I would not want to run the risk oif anymore disabled people in my own personal close family etc.
Adrian Martinez: these are some of my thoughts (based on my interpretation of studying the spiritual teaching) that I had about your abortion question, and needing reassurance:
1) the negatives: according to the fine print of the spiritual teaching, you committed murder if you and your wife’s abortion went beyond the 21st day. This will be something you will have to come to terms with, and accept, in a way that works for you and is beneficial to your consciousness. I know you said hardly a day goes by that you do not think about the mistake, and like MH posted, maybe you are already suffering the “punishment” in your consciousness. Learn a lesson from this mistake, and consider the lesson learned your resolution. Billy has said repeatedly in the many books I have read, is that mistakes are the foundation for evolutionary development, they are like stepping stones to developmental progress as long as the mistake learned from, and is resolved. Evolution is also not possible without mistakes. Yes abortion is barbaric and cruel, but abortion also fits in the overall current terrestrial picture, and is almost unavoidable considering our planet’s current (negative) level of planetary societal development and planetary consciousness-based evolutionary levels. One thing that may help you accept this mistake is by considering the positives:
the positives: the spirit-form of you and your wife’s aborted fetus most likely has already been born to someone else, and in this overpopulated world, will continue down the path of either evolution, or stagnation, whichever one he/or/she chooses out of free-will. So for that particular spirit-form, it is most likely already on the path of whatever direction his/her reincarnation takes on and develops into (either positive, or negative evolutionary development), and that spirit-form’s evolutionary development is up to his/her free-will, and since you are not the parent, you cannot partake in any responsibility sharing of teaching him/her the positive high values in life, but the flip side of this situation is that you also will not be able to share negative un-values with this child, Since you “believed” in God at the time of your abortion, if you had carried the child to full-term, you would have most likely indoctrinated the young helpless child into the negative Christian religion, which would have enslaved the young child’s consciousness, and constricted the young child’s logic, intellect, and rationality for the negative. Reciprocally, don’t feel bad about not being a good example to this unborn child, there are no missed opportunities here, a child is born to a certain set of parents based on creational casual-foreordination-based laws, and also is born into a country that is close to it’s own spirit-form’s (swinging-wave-based) level of evolutionary development based on cultural, and consciousness-based evolutionary development of it’s “host” country, so wherever it’s designated birth-place is, is where it was born into.
note: I have a reincarnation PDF file straight from the mouth of Billy Meier, compiled from the many years of the English FIGU-forum question and answer thread, that if you get in touch with Michael Horn, he would thus get in touch with me, and I could send you a copy to study if it would help you answer questions about the laws of reincarnation.
Another positive is that, although you committed murder for having your abortion, you kept terrestrial population levels in check by not having a child at that particular point in your life because you were not ready for child-bearing, look on the bright-side of this situation.
Another positive (+) is: If the Henoch prophecies, or any other Meier prophecy comes true, specifically prophecies regarding the negative effects of overpopulation come true (desertification, loss of food/water sources, earthquakes. tsunamis, etc.) it may turn out better to have aborted the fetus, then have a young child you are responsible for die miserably as a direct result of a natural catastrophe, die as a result of an event of misfortune (Unglück), or die as a result of negative world events, such as: starving to death in a fourth world war, where all food and all other goods are rationed, or dying needlessly because world powers in one particular country wanted to attack and murder all the residents in your particular country. In my modest opinion, it is almost more cruel to bring a young child into this world needlessly, and have them die a miserable death (such as starvation, or die in a nuclear war) that would be a direct result of cause and effect (terrestrial humanity trampling the laws and recommendations of Creation under their feet), then it is to abort a fetus. My words might sound dire considering that catastrophic negative events are not currently overtaking the world in 2016, but they might in a future-time if you consider the prophecies, and the current negative direction of the world, and the negative free-fall of world events dictated by the powers-that-be that are in complete control over the masses through religion, politics, military, secret-services, television and the media, etc.
If you live in the US, and the collapse of 2020 happens, with possible starvation, anarchy, etc., as a direct result, it may be easier for you and your wife to survive the likely disaster without a young toddler to look after, that you would have to be responsible for either the young child’s life, or death, just as you are responsible for your own life, or death. 2020 is only four short years away, if look at the bright side you may have made the correct choice to be child-less, your future survival may depend on it.
I think you should be more tolerant to yourself for making a mistake in a time-period that was before you found out about the Meier material, if you weigh the pros and cons, and consider the positives I listed, you could be more forgiving to yourself, and possibly accept your prior choice of an abortion as a better alternative to having a young child to look after during a time when negative prophecies are coming true (if the world does not collectively change course for the positive) in your consciousness, the true source of self-forgiveness is to accept this in your consciousness.
I could be corrected in this point, but it is my understanding that considering the current state of Earth affairs, I think FIGU would be more tolerant of abortions (even though they are considered murder after the 21st day by the Plejaren), then FIGU might be of adding to the overpopulation levels and all the negative effects of needless calamity, death, destruction, and misery that comes along with adding to overpopulation levels (law of cause and effect [desicion/reaction/for every action there is a fulfilling reaction]).
I hope you see that I listed more positives for your situation then negatives, and next time, avoid the choice of abortion by using birth-control, and consider the harsh reality of negative world events, and negative effects of the law of cause and effect that could easily kill a small child, before you and your wife consider having any children in a future time. An abortion may have been a mistake, but it was also sort of respectful of the Earth because you did not add another child to the mix of terrestrial affairs to negatively impact the Earth, and all life-forms on it, other people do this every day, the latest FIGU stats are that 280,000 children are born each day on the Earth! We have to collectively slow down, or many of us (and our descendants) will perish needless deaths!
Wow Corey, I must admit that was some strong stuff. Just saying thank you doesn’t do any justice to how that made me feel but thank you! My wife and I have kids, two of them. A 7 yr old and a 1 1/2 yr old. Both are being taught to live for truth and not beliefs. That doesn’t mean I’m teaching them about the Billy Meier case, as they will need to find it on their own, but I am influencing them to be honest, moral, living for the truth, beings. Hope it sticks!
Thanks to those that responded and took the time to delve into my personal issue. The perspective of those that follow the spiritual teaching has opened my eyes a little wider. I will learn from this mistake I made in a neutral positive way.
Corey,
The 280,000 is additional humans added to the planet everyday, when factoring in all births and deaths per day. The actual daily birth rate is much higher than 280,000.
Shantz,As MH has stated many times you need to give your full name!
My apologies Terry.
If we hadn’t done all the things that we have done, would we have found the truth?