“Now the first question in everyone’s mind should be – where did Billy Meier get a photo album with dozens of UFO photos back in 1964? There obviously were no ‘UFO Photos R Us’ stores in India at that time, so how and where could he have accumulated all these photos if he didn’t take them himself as he said?”
Joe Tysk
Billy Meier – UFO Photos, Films and ET Contacts
What the Skeptics and Others Need to Know
20 Jan 2018
Arguably, the Billy Meier story is one of the most controversial UFO/extraterrestrial cases of all time. It actually spans over 75 years and is still ongoing, as Billy Meier is alive as of this date and will soon turn 81, on 3 February 2018.
While many think the Billy Meier case starts in the mid-1970’s, 1975 to be more exact, we really need to zero in on the year 1964. That’s because Billy Meier was first interviewed about UFOs in 1964, while he was in India, by a reporter for the New Delhi Statesman newspaper.
And why is this important? It is important because what was reported in the interview lays the foundation for building the case that the Billy Meier contact story is real.
It is why we need to examine the 1964 newspaper article, and other corroborating evidence at that time, in detail before we jump ahead to 1975, the starting point for where most skeptics launch their attack and call it all a hoax.
So let’s get to the article.
Billy Meier, age 27 and known at that time by his real name, Eduard Albert Meier, had been in India for about 5 months when he was approached by a reporter from the New Delhi Statesman newspaper, who had heard about the strange “flying saucer man”. Though Meier was agreeable to being interviewed, he made it clear to the reporter that he was not seeking publicity, nor did he care if anyone believed his story. And what a story it was.
Billy claimed he had not only seen objects from outer space but had also taken photographs and even travelled in them. Such a claim on face value would quickly be dismissed by most but Meier showed the reporter a photo album he had and in it, according to the reporter, were about 80 photos of UFOs.
Now the first question in everyone’s mind should be – where did Billy Meier get a photo album with dozens of UFO photos back in 1964? There obviously were no “UFO Photos R Us” stores in India at that time, so how and where could he have accumulated all these photos if he didn’t take them himself as he said?
Some skeptics actually answer this question with statements like “he had a photo enlarger” or “he had access to a photo lab/dark room”, which is ridiculous because these quite far-fetched explanations still do not address the basic question:
“Where did Billy Meier get a photo album with dozens of UFO photos back in 1964?”
Now, even if one were to admit that the logical explanation is Billy Meier took the photos himself, the next question becomes were the photos hoaxed?
To help answer this question we now turn to two individuals who were at the location where Billy Meier claimed to have taken a number of the UFO photos – the Ashoka Ashram, a Buddhist temple where Billy had stayed during part of his time in India.
What is interesting about these two individuals is they claim to have seen the same UFOs that Billy took photos of and that were in his photo album. Not only that, but these same two people related this story at the UFO Congress held in Laughlin, Nevada, back on 29 February 1999 – 35 years after the sightings and photos were claimed to have been taken.
The first to tell her story at the convention was Phobol Cheng, the granddaughter of the Buddhist monk who founded the Ashoka Ashram, and she remembered Billy and reported seeing the UFOs for herself, at age 9.
After telling her story to the attendees, Phobol’s long-time friend Sashi Raj, who had come from India, confirmed she had also seen UFOs in the skies above the Ashoka Ashram, as had others who had worked there.
To put this into perspective, we have two people with nothing to gain, willing to come forward years later to tell their story, even though it was not an easy thing to do. On top of this, the connection and impact Billy Meier had made on Phobol Cheng was something special, as she actually flew from the US, where she was living, to Switzerland to visit him – not once but twice. In fact, on her second trip there, she brought her husband and they ended up staying two weeks at Billy Meier’s home.
Let’s put what we have together and see where we are at now. An easy way to do this is to apply 3 aspects used in criminal law to determine whether or not someone could be guilty of a crime, or in this case, a hoax.
Those 3 aspects are Means, Motive and Opportunity and we will apply each one to ascertain what is the logical conclusion as to whether or not Billy Meier perpetrated a hoax going back to the year 1964. If no hoax could be found in 1964, then a strong case can be made there was no reason for him to perpetrate a hoax in 1975, or anytime later.
We will begin with the Means. In 1964, Billy Meier was basically backpacking his way from country to country, earning meager amounts of money doing an assortment of odd jobs.
At the time of the interview, the reporter noticed the only items Billy had were a few articles of clothing, a folding camera, two small bags, and his photo album. Not the best of times to try to get into the UFO hoaxing business when basic survival was already a challenge.
For Billy Meier to fake dozens of different UFO photos, some of which he still has today and which are clearly pictures of some type of spacecraft, would be more than just extremely difficult at the time, it would have been closer to impossible.
The second and perhaps most important aspect we need to deal with is the Motive.
As the newpaper reporter stated in his article, and I quote: “But he clearly is not eager to talk about his experiences which, to say the least, are remarkable. Indeed, the little that he has to say has to be pried out of him. He doesn’t want publicity, he doesn’t care if anyone believes him or not.”
What is important to point out is that Billy Meier, while in serious need of funds, never once offered to sell any of his photos to the reporter, or anyone else for that matter. If this was all a hoax, you would have expected to hear stories about how Meier had gone around telling his strange tales to others while trying to profit from it. It would be logical to assume that if he was able to produce fake UFO photos at will, he also would have been able to make some money from it. But there is no record of that ever being the case. So, with no known motive, check that one off from the list.
The third element is the Opportunity. Meier is in an area and country he is unfamiliar with. He has no known friends or contacts, and one of the few items he has is an old camera. Yet, he is somehow able to fake dozens of UFO photos without being detected and without having any known accomplice? And since we already have other witnesses that have come forward, and have reported seeing the same objects in the sky that ended up as photos in Meier’s album, I think we can also put the opportunity aspect to rest as well.
So where does all this lead us?
If, as far back as 1964, we have documented evidence Billy Meier had amassed a collection of UFO photos and then, 11 years later, started taking clearer and more detailed UFO photos in Switzerland where he lives, is there any reason to still be skeptical?
One could say yes, if it were not for the fact that in addition to the photos, Meier was also able to make films of the ET spacecraft he claims he has been in contact with. Trying to hoax still shots of UFOs is one thing – hoaxing a UFO film is quite another.
Enter Wally Gentleman. At the time Wally Gentleman viewed UFO photos and films that Billy Meier had taken, he had already been involved with special effects for over 35 years. He was such an accomplished expert in the art of special effects that Stanley Kubrick specifically sought out and hired Wally Gentleman to be the Director of Special Photographic Effects for the epic science-fiction movie, 2001: A Space Odyssey. He worked at this position for a year and a half until the film was finished.
While in charge of all the special effects, Gentleman was also responsible for building the model spacecraft used in the movie. Needless to say, if anyone at the time could debunk faked UFO photos and films it was Wally Gentleman.
Here is what Wally Gentleman found and reported after viewing the Billy Meier material, as quoted from the book, Light Years: An Investigation into the Extraterrestrial Experiences of Eduard Meier, by Gary Kinder:
After studying the films, Gentleman concluded that considering the expertise necessary, the logistics, and the expense, a one-armed man with no assistance could not possibly have produced the footage. (note: Billy Meier lost his left arm in a bus accident in 1965 while in Turkey)
“That’s the bottom line of everything,” he said. “This Meier really had to have a fleet of clever assistants, at least fifteen people, who would know what the interface reflections of a shiny object were at certain times of the day, how to support these objects so that wires are not seen, how to rig it, how to watch it and stand by with their little air guns to spray the strings when they begin showing up.”
“What we would do is go out and shoot the scene, and then bring it back to the studio, and then shoot the object onto that film by duplication processes, which is a very sophisticated procedure. It’s difficult to do on 35mm, even worse with the 8mm film he was using. And the equipment was totally out of his means. If somebody wanted me to cheat something along those lines, $30,000 would probably do it, but this is in a studio where the equipment exists. The equipment would cost another $50,000” (note: at the time the films were taken Billy was barely scraping by and just making ends meet was a challenge)
“I think the one telling part of all this is that a single man with one arm, if he indeed was on his own, could not have done it. I think it would be miraculous for a person with even two arms to do that sort of work by himself up on a mountaintop. Even if you get a balloon and you hang your object on a fine piece of thread underneath, it’s going to blow in any direction it wants to go. And with a lot of those pictures where you’ve got three or four flying saucers, you would need balloons with strings of varying length, otherwise you could pick out where the string comes from. It would be very difficult to do those shots in that sort of condition outside. And the fall of the land makes it very risky to do anything like that. It’s all that sort of complication that leads me to think that the objects he’s photographed and filmed were there independently and he simply snapped the shutter.”
To summarize what Wally Gentleman, one of the foremost special effects experts in the world, said there was no way Billy Meier could have faked the films. Anyone doubting this assertion, read what he said again. Billy Meier simply did not have the means to do what it would have taken to produce the UFO films that Wally Gentleman reviewed and about which he gave his professional and expert opinion.
In addition to Wally Gentleman, over the years there were a number of other experts in different fields who, after doing extensive research, could only say that if Meier was perpetrating a hoax, they had no idea how he was doing it. Others, not wanting to say they were stumped, offered that maybe he had real-size models hung from a helicopter, as a possible explanation for how he faked it. Seriously?
Of course, all this is still not good enough for the diehard skeptics. What the skeptics prefer to do, instead of looking at the best hard evidence that would support the authenticity of the UFO photos and videos, is to only zero in on what they think proves the entire Billy Meier UFO story to be a hoax.
However, any good investigator knows that when looking at evidence you look at ALL the evidence and not just what you think will make the case you want it to make. And, contrary to what many think, it’s not how much apparently incriminating evidence you have that wins the day, it’s whether or not you have even one single piece of evidence that proves your position.
To better explain this, let’s use a hypothetical example, of which there are actual similar cases on record.
In this example, let’s say someone is shot and killed outside a nightclub and next to the body is found a drivers license with a photo of John Doe, who has been known to have quarreled with the victim. There are also two eyewitnesses that saw the shooting and then, after looking through police mug shots, both are certain that the John Doe identified in the driver’s license photo was the shooter. On top of this, the police are able to determine that the suspect had owned a handgun of the same caliber used in the shooting.
Based on what appears to be concrete evidence against John Doe, many including law enforcement professionals would say they have a solid case to have him arrested and eventually convicted of the crime in a court of law. There is, however, only one little problem.
John Doe has one single piece of evidence that trumps everything else. He claims, and it is later proven, that at the time of the murder he was 1,000 miles away attending a wedding. So, what looked like conclusive evidence proved to be wrong and it only took one irrefutable piece of evidence to exonerate John Doe and prove him innocent.
Rather than looking at just the parts of the story that may be controversial and can be debated, it’s important to keep an open mind and not come to any conclusion until ALL the evidence is reviewed – especially when there is more than enough evidence to support the Billy Meier UFO contact claim, if one were to only look.
Even if it were determined that among the massive collection of Billy Meier’s UFO photos, there were some photos of models, or pictures of other objects that did not support Meier’s story, this still in no way invalidates the authenticity of photos (and films) that experts like Wally Gentleman say are real.
When using logical deductive reasoning, an argument can still be valid even if one or more of its premises are false. In other words, if a claim was made that all of Billy Meier’s photos were real and it was later determined not to be true, we don’t discard the evidence that does support the case, which is what the skeptics often do.
Again, it is ALL the evidence that needs to be reviewed but not all of the evidence needs to support the case to make it authentic, and that’s a fact.
Assuming people are now accepting the proposition that Billy Meier did take authentic photos of UFOs, and even authentic films of these spacecraft, we now must ask the big question: “In addition to taking real photos and making real films of UFOs (actually ET spacecraft) did Billy Meier ever have contact with extraterrestrials?”
Remember, he made this claim beginning way back in 1964, with the interview he gave to the reporter in India.
To reason this out, we can conclude that the only way Billy Meier could have taken the photos and made the films that he did, was if he had prior knowledge of when and where the UFOs were going to appear. It would have been literally impossible for him to just coincidentally be at the right place and right time to have collected all the UFO photos and films he did over the years.
Somehow, Billy Meier had to have been contacted in advance about when and where to be, and the only ones that could have provided him with that information were the ones aboard or controlling the UFOs. Rather than trying to elaborate on this, I will leave it to the reader to see if there are enough dots to connect here, as I think there are.
In conclusion, I would say that, based on all the available evidence and expert testimony, the only logical conclusion one could come to is that Billy Meier has taken numerous authentic photos of UFOs and, more importantly, actual films of UFOs. And he has done it over a span of many years.
There is also much more corroborating evidence to support the Billy Meier case that is not covered in this article but can easily be found at various sources on the internet. Of course, none of this will ever be enough for the die-hard skeptics. Once people take a side or stance, as they often do with politics and religion, literally nothing will change their position, no matter how strong the evidence that is presented.
I will end by saying I did not write this article with the intention it would change even a single skeptic because I know it won’t. It was simply written for those with an open mind, reasonable intelligence and a desire for the truth.
Joe Tysk
Joe Tysk served with the USAF Office of Special Investigations (OSI) during the late 1960s and early 1970s. During his assignment with the OSI, he supervised hundreds of personnel investigations at the highest level for the USAF and other agencies of the Department of Defense.
While his time and experience with the OSI was helpful in researching and evaluating the Billy Meier case, he doesn’t believe any special training or knowledge is required to properly research and evaluate the Billy Meier UFO story. Just follow the evidence, use logic and common sense and he believes you will come to the right decision.
See also:
Billy Meier UFO Case: Beyond a Reasonable Doubt
NASA Engineer: The Billy Meier UFO Case Is Real
The REAL UFO Films the Pentagon Hid from You
Pentagon Spent $110M to Not Find Billy Meier UFO Case
Multi-Media Presentations on Billy Meier UFO Case
How can anyone even argue with this?
I don’t think you can.
However, that takes the ability to think for yourself. And to do that, you must know yourself. Unfortunately, our American (and many other) cultures brainwash us through governments and religions not to know ourselves. We constantly look to others to solve our problems and come to our solutions. However, you must be able to admit that fact first, before you can move forward into a higher consciousness.
From Contacts Reports 011 – 118: “The human being only learns of his spirit through meditation, through knowing deliberate, inner contemplation, through deep immersion into the quietest chambers of the consciousness and the spiritual self, and by directly looking to the mirror of the inner and the innermost life.”
Yes.
Speaking of meditation, I’m running late on my daily session!
One way of understanding why so few are able to bring critical thinking to bear on reportage (such as Billy’s) is to arrive at a deeper understanding of a phenomenon Karl Jung described as “The Collective Unconscious”. Once you grasp the reality that each and every human being is influenced by collective thinking, feeling and behaving, NOT making sense of things (such as UFOs) becomes more fully elucidated…
You can’t really. The photo evidence has been analysed to a high degree. Even the models that the Elders made (that they all agreed looked pretty good in photos in the film Contact) were analysed alongside the Meier photos and you could see the pixellations were massively different, proving the ‘control’ model snaps were exactly that, models. That was good enough for me to realise we had the genuine article here, and I’m trained in science.
Is it strange that everything Billy trys to warn us about like U.S cival wars by 2020, U.S/ Russia nuclear war annihilation, polar ice caps melting, terrorism dangers, massive criminal behavior and cultural suicide caused by mass migration to Germany, France, England , all of europe, and the U.S. and canada . Dropped flags regarding false alien invasion perpetuated by the CIA, etc. And the CIA is supposed to be well aware of this case and yet it does nothing but seems to help ensure the worst case scenarios play out for western civilization and all of humanity. Some people in the CIA are very twisted and sick minded and need to be fired ASAP and their damage to the US and Europe and the world reversed. Cant Trumps cia guy Mike Pompeo get to the heart of the matter who in the deep state is instigating russia and trying to start a nuclear war with russia? Who’s really in charge in the intel community. FIRE em ALL!! Corrupt, lying, traitorous pieces of S!@#!!
All thanks to Kamagol and the nutty Bafath with their world enslaving techniques. Though, I think Kamagol is a pseudo-name as the literal name kama + gol is simply great desire + ball. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that it’s the great desire of world domination all in the name.
Of course, since the Kamagol the younger is no longer living and the Bafath gone, some group of someones are trying to shoe themselves into being Kamagol the Third … except with the Prophecies is Kama-fail-for-shoe.
I agree Todd, but these people are untouchable. They roam in very lofty places and the White House is many levels below. They decide everything that will happen in this world and have no problem sending billions of us to the other realm. We can hardly imagine their abhorrence and lack of empathy toward us. They will fail eventually, but we can’t stop trying to make it sooner than later.
I agree with you Melissa. Seems to me all those politicians don`t give a damn if we don`t have the cash while they spend and celebrate their accomplishments in D.C. town! This whole Trump Cabal and the Deep State is such a fraud that I wonder if this is all a warmed over left over Kamagol and Baffa Giza Mensch Gang aka Don Karleone Maffia Dark Energy Gang!:(((
A very well written article. I agree that there is only logical conclusion and more than enough evidence to support UFO contact claim.
All of the dangers of wrong thinking human beings can be lessened. A turn around in mass consciousness could happen, and the we could begin the path to becoming real human beings. If people only wanted the truth . the effects of wrong thinking leading to wrong causes are upon us . What will it take for us to become one humanity on one earth , doing the work of creation – raising our consciousness. Learning to live by spiritual principles/teachings. Yes I’m a dreamer, its how I’m wired, and wouldn’t have it any other way. Once we get past the case is real controversy, we can begin.
“wow MH what a beautiful essay!:-)))” I just wish the rest of this world would follow suit and learn from Joe Tsk! As I always say “It`s high time this world should GROW UP and learn to think logically and with common sense!”
Thanks to Mr. Joe Tysk for the well laid explanation. There’s no convincing here to anyone but to do our own searching, and researching on finding the Truth. In my own observation on humanity, people have no idea as to what’s happening on their environment. Common sense and logical thinking seems to be absent when it comes to making choices. Everything is measured on what one has on the material level. The true core values of life has become a stranger. With 100 million more people added to the overpopulation in just one year, I’m not certain where we’re heading.
Michael,
Could you please change the fonts to the way they were before? The fonts that are displayed on your blog are not good. The fonts looked a little bolder before which was better in my opinion.
It will be fixed.
Font has been fixed, should be more readable.
What’s harder, proving Billy is authentic or getting the brain dead humans on this planet to use an ounce of common sense and logic. I deal with this on a daily basis. The latter is true in my opinion, you’re dealing with egos, know it alls i.e Mufon, religious fanatics and the “My Mind Is Made Up. Don’t Confuse Me With the Facts” people. This seems futile to constantly keep trying to prove to these people what is obvious to us!!!!
Most everyone who’s spent any time investigating all the evidence already knows the Meier contacts are 100% authentic. One of the values of Joe’s article is that it completely negates, disarms, disables, dissembles…destroys ANY skeptical challenges. There isn’t a skeptic on earth who can say, “But…” and not make themselves into irrelevant fools.
So Joe’s article serves well for anyone who, in their own interactions with people, in person, online, etc., is confronted with the old “Billy Meier hoaxed…” You send them the link and move on. No debates, no arguments, no justifications, no ifs, ands , or buts.
Thanks Joe Tysk for having the integrity and courage to come forward and I hope this encourages others with credentials who visit here to do the same.
P.S. The Trumps are acting like the Corliones from the Godfather genera. I could remeber where that came from but this whole political sham is sure beginning to sound and play out of the Godfather novels sorry to say even Gov. Andrew Cuomo STILL has skeletons in his closet! My father would be rolling all over in his grave because he told me thjat years ago when he was alive!:-((( “YUK!”
Very concise article Michael, thank you for not dealing with all the “window dressing” the media portrays but instead, presenting real evidence using logic and reason. I remember the first time I saw one of those photos taken in 1964 by Billy way back in 1976 and I thought they were too good to be true, and they were not even as good as the photos coming out of Switzerland at that 1976 even better: much more clear… crystal clear, no darkroom, no hoax and I thought: “They must be fake.” It was not till 2004 that I began to see the UFO’s were nice but the information, now THAT which came from the “drivers” of these esoteric craft had to say was far more interesting. In 2004 I began to understand this case might really be true! 2007 my first visit to Switzerland and I was still skeptical in 2008 till about 2009 or so going each year for six or seven years and now I KNOW* the case is real. Why? Who else is going to give us ideas about the spiritual teaching (the most interesting part of the case) able to change the way this “earth” thinks for years and years to come but from those that understand it and are able to travel across the vast distances of space and time. Where else did we expect to learn this? From the warlike military “intelligence”, or the TV where it is all about explosions and sight gags of folks getting hurt and it is a comedy/horror/terror** show? No… of course we will get it from those who live it and have experienced it. We have a leg up and they want to ridicule us about what we know to be true and they have only just heard about, even though it has been around for 75 years! I heard about Billy in 1958 and the media was saying he was “pretending to be Jesus Christ” and I was given a UFO that year by my Grandmother. When the media was drenched with Biblespeak and Elvis the pelvis Billy was writing to 3000 governments that we can follow a “fast-track” to peace by paying attention to what will most likely happen in this time. Now, you read the 1958 or 1951 letter and it is like reading a newspaper of events one by one, world trade center, father and son presidents, Islamic terrorists (IS), epidemics such as aids, Ebola and radiation mishaps. How our most important and dangerous problem facing the earth has always been overpopulation and in fact it is the main problem while all the other problems are secondary. Folks ask questions about something and when you tell them the answer you understand to be true from the Meier case reference of 50 or 60 thick books they either get very silent or attack you with unlogic. (I used the supposedly incorrect spelling of unlogic rather than illogic to prevent ambiguity in my words which English is loaded with) When they do get the idea many just have this glazed over zombie look and you notice they try to avoid you at all costs. It is your loss not mine I think.
I am excited about the Meier case and I spend at least an hour a day studying and learning about it. What have I learned: well, an atom in the microcosm is a galaxy in the macrocosm, there are devices that can travel way above light speed between stars but slow down to the speed of light to travel within Star systems like our star: Sol or the Solar system… There are devices that can address heat signatures and know the liscense plates of vehicles which were parked there three weeks ago! The Biogram is a device that can tell there are almost nine billion human beings on this planet and that we should only have half a billion as we did in early 1600. We are learning how to achieve world peace from masters of it: well, they have not had a war on their star system for over 49000 years! They are ready, willing and able but those are legal actions rather than war such as the 1978 attack on our Swiss friend Billy with force weapons and they were deported. An eon is a span of time equal to one billion years! And all of this information is indeed entertaining and enjoyable, but the main thing is it is a “leg-up” for us human beings on this broken down barbaric and polluted waste land we call home, which no intelligent “space man” would be interested in any case. Why would they want to clean up our radioactive carcinogenic oil born mess?
Thanks again Michael!
Salome,
Randy
* KNOW; using logic and deduction. From knowledge, to learning cognition and use which becomes wisdom and the power to deal with many more situations.
**comedy/horror/terror show: if a person is just desperate enough they will do anything to protect themselves. They will want weapons to “protect” themselves from this “suspended disbelief” (Belief) which we have been inundated with in the media. So in-between these drug commercials there is a join the Army, Navy or Airforce campaign and then back to the Airforce, Navy or Army show we were watching… They control us? Sarcastically NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo… I truely think they do folks. And then after all the “filler and fluff” dotted with lawyer commercials & new weapons to go against WMD’s (weapons of mass destruction) appear and wow look at that technology! Like killing our fellow human beings is a viable alternative. Not! Wake up or smell the methane folks… They’re heerrrrreeeee! and they’re us!
Thanks Randy. The credit for that article of course goes to Joe Tysk, who probed and researched the Meier case over the past year.
A simplified version of my Pendulum UFO comparison:
Billy Meier Pendulum UFO – Direct Comparison With Suspended Model
https://youtu.be/jKot4oRsvnM
Any intelligent discussion on Meier’s UFO film evidence should involve the facts listed at the end of this video and also appearing in the description section.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhante_Dharmawara
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdcMqv8r/
Thanks, if all this true, it’s an surprisingly monstrous example of greed and power-hunger.