“It is effectively more than just presumptuous, arrogant, mendacious, presumptuous and boundlessly arrogant to presumptuously devise such lies and fraudulent claims in order to indulge in self-delusion, self-aggrandisement and megalomania.”
884th Contact
Saturday, 13th April 2024, 13:26 hrs
Billy:
I can leave our greetings aside when I recall our conversation, and the fact that you all came back here a few minutes earlier than announced is not important. What is important, however, is what the guy in Trinidad is lying about and deceiving his cult members with such unbelievably blatant lies that all the beams are cracking and collapsing. Here you can read in the computer itself what this guy from Trinidad emailed to …, which was immediately forwarded back to Bernadette. You can read it here, because Bernadette downloaded it onto a [USB] stick so that I can let you read it here:
Hi Bernadette,
Thank you. Yes, this is interesting, and good this is now coming to light, and as I have just been informed from New Zealand, Jedi has checkmated himself with his conclusion to the conversation he and I had last night, which he circulated within PSI, at least from a FIGU point of view.
German translation of the message
from Jedi Google translation):
“Today was a polarising but very special day.
I met with CF and he had a message for me from the Plejaren.
The Plejaren are distancing themselves from PSI, but they didn’t say we weren’t right about our ideas.
So it is a larger political game being played.
The Plejaren directly had a message for me.
Best approval ever.
So, yes, publicly, we will appear as ‘being distanced’ and a statement will be announced but in reality, it is a silent approval from the Plejaren.
They are doing this for our and their safety because we/PSI have discovered too much, too quick.
My guess is they want us to go off and do our own thing.
Now we are under the FULL protection of the AA.
This is secretly the best news.”
The New Zealanders have some persons who helped Jedi to publish the book, but after my answer the wheat should be separated from the chaff.
NB: I have already sent Billy a draft for the news item on our website, but he still wants to discuss it with Ptaah and Quetzal …
Kind regards
…
Reply from Bernadette to …:
Hi …
Yes, is that still possible? This is anything but insightful and he just spins everything to his liking and as if everyone agrees with his PSI. That absolutely has to be put right, because I cannot see anything about “checkmating himself”, on the contrary. In my opinion, and based on his message, you have not spoken to him clearly enough, which you should definitely make up for.
Kind regards
Bernadette
Enjana:
That cannot be true, that is …
Billy:
… I also think, namely the hammer of all lies and deceit, because I cannot imagine that you, Ptaah, or the committee ordered this, what this Trinidad sectarian claims. That is why I also called Quetzal and explained everything to him and that he should inform you, which he did immediately and you – and also all of you – are now here …
Ptaah:
… it is unfortunately not to be postponed and already at the beginning the lies and deceit must be tackled. It …
Billy:
… Excuse me, but we have a saying here: “Stop the beginnings”, and since a beginning of evil is about to happen, I thought you should be called immediately.
Ptaah:
That is also a good thing, because what is written in this e-mail does not correspond to the truth in any form even in one letter, because overall everything corresponds only to such an outrageous lie and a prepotent deception as I could never have imagined. It is effectively more than just presumptuous, arrogant, mendacious, presumptuous and boundlessly arrogant to presumptuously devise such lies and fraudulent claims in order to indulge in self-delusion, self-aggrandisement and megalomania. This person calls himself Jedi Reach, although the correct name is probably Jedaiah Ramnarine, as we have since discovered, and who has fraudulently formed a cult under the name of ‘Peace Seeking Intelligence’, psiraise.com, whose followers are blind believers in and addicted to his lies and deception. And what is now written in his claims of lies, as I can read them here on the screen of your computer, is so brazenly deceptive and also crude that I cannot understand how even a halfway educated Earth-human can consider this to be the truth, in the form of a belief which is also so sectarian that even a still uneducated child would perceive and recognise the fraud, the lie and the deception from everything. But the fact that adult Earth-humans, even if they are obviously only halfway educated, adhere to these lies and the sheer fraudulent claims of this irresponsible and obviously money-hungry cult leader and unquestioningly regard his lies and fraud as truth is simply incomprehensible to me. In truth, we distance ourselves in every possible wise from this Earth-human and his comprehensively (= in all aspects) truth-detached and faith-based harmful sectarianism; so I myself have also never dealt with this cult leader or his cult and his cult members in any manner, nor have any other Plejaren personalities dealt with Jedi Reach resp. Jedaiah Ramnarine or made any concessions to him or his cult believers. Besides, this is to be explained, the first time we received anything from this cult person and his cult was when you informed us about it. And how brazenly and impudently this sect leader now continues with his lies and claims of fraud after these have been proven to him is proof of his impudence, as you say in each case. Effectively, neither I myself nor any person of us Plejaren have said or promised such things as he mendaciously claims, as well as not and in no wise could the brazen lies be deduced or also misunderstood in the wise this sect leader lies and deceives. It is also to be explained that we Plejaren are not and in no wise the ‘guardians of the Earth’, nor do we interfere in any politics, world affairs, religion or any other matters, for we keep strictly away from that and have our task only to assist you in your mission in a manner known to you. Our committee would also not allow anything else, so we adhere to its strict instructions in every respect. It is also impossible that we could have given the cult leader, liar and deceiver Jedi Reach alias Jedaiah Ramnarine any concessions, endorsed his lying and deception in any way or placed it under our protection. The lying statements he makes in his e-mail, as he apparently also makes to the faithful followers of his sect, are based entirely on fabricated lies and deception that are as unrealistic as the fantasy lie that something that has died can be brought back to life. Just as this lie, from which a religion full of lies and deception has been built, has given rise to many sects, the teaching that you teach in fulfilment of your mission, the ‘teaching of the truth, teaching of the Creation-energy, teaching of the life’, will be used to falsify it and form sects from it, but this is to be prevented. Already it is the 3rd time that this has been attempted, first by Ilse von Jacobi, then by Hansruèdi Glanzmann, who falsified everything and spread it worldwide, and now by Jedi Reach alias Jedaiah Ramnarine.
Billy:
That should be clear now. But you openly mention the name of this sectarian and also their others who have already missed the mark. So I guess that is where I, as usual, put dots when I call everything out and write it down, because as you know, it is not in me to mention the names of persons.
Enjana:
But that would not be correct in this case, because it should be known which person dares to spread such falsifications and lies and deny a mendacious sectarianism from the truth.
Ptaah:
That is correct, and we have also decided that from now on names should also be mentioned openly with regard to such incidents.
Billy:
I will think about that, because your decision … well, I will think about that. As I have been told, this guy is really labelled as work-shy, a human being who is too lazy to work and only wants to live at the expense of his fellow human beings, collect money and live a life of pleasure and glory.
Quetzal:
We have also realised this during the last few hours as we have sought insights following your call and explanations.
Billy:
Aha, then you were all involved in finding out everything that is really going on around the sectarian.
Bermunda:
We have, yes.
Florena:
It is really unpleasant.
Ptaah:
It is indeed, because the whole cult system has already established itself worldwide, consequently many have already been misled and led into belief regarding the lies and deceitfulness of the Jedi Reach aka Jedaiah Ramnarine, from which they now have to extricate themselves, but that will not be easy for them.
Enjana:
Yes, and there are even some among the followers of this cult leader who should know everything better and are allies of the FIGU organisation. But Bermunda, Florena and I have to leave now, because we still have our duties to fulfil. Goodbye, Eduard.
Bermunda:
Also goodbye, dear friend – goodbye.
Florena:
I also wish you goodbye, dear father-friend.
Billy:
Then I wish you the same. – Well … they are gone.
Ptaah:
That is indeed the case, and it must also be said that … was gullible, far too trusting and not investigating enough, otherwise everything would probably have been avoided. There should effectively be much more realistic research and also thinking in the future, which unfortunately was not done back then when Ilse von Jacobi and Hansruèdi Glanzmann falsified the conersation reports and the teachings in order to exploit them commercially and when they circulated the falsifications worldwide. Everything that was attempted to entice you to do this, to get to the ‘Pleiades’ through your intervention and … as well as also just to be able to participate in our connections with you, that corresponds to much more than just a request, because …
Billy:
I remember that very well, because it was a real imposition, which I not only judged as impertinence and impudence, but would also have meant more openly … Moreover, in 2 cases with consent … That would have made me … That would really have been missing in the can of worms. But the fact that this would have landed me in hot water did not matter to those who wanted their wishes fulfilled. …
Ptaah:
That was unfortunately the case, I remember that very well, also what my daughter Semjase told me in this regard, because she was present several times unnoticed, as when … and … first came to you in Hinwil and together already expressed the request … which they then nevertheless repeated several times over the next few months until, full of disappointment and anger, they broke off the connection with you with a lie.
Billy:
Of … and … after all, there was also sectarianism involved, and what sectarianism, which of course I resisted, as well as the crazy imposition that …
Ptaah:
That is what my daughter told me, which I found to be an outrageous request, but also what I found to be outrageous and despicable, what this sect leader Jedi Reach aka Jedaiah Ramnarine mendaciously and deceitfully claimed in the letter I was able to read at the beginning of our conversation. When I look for earthly terms to describe this man’s thoughts and actions, all I find is that his behaviour is unhealthily pathetic, deceitful and mendacious. And to that end, I want to state again emphatically that neither I nor any other person of us Plejaren have had anything to do with this sectarian leader in any form or given him any hopes or guidelines. We were completely unaware of this lying and deceitful person and his existence, which is why we only became aware of him through your information, although we distance ourselves from him in every form and also do not wish to enter into any kind of relationship with him. All their lies are so degenerate that they can also be described as fraudulent.
Billy:
But what works tremendously on sham thinkers because they do not question the whole of his infamous lies and deceit, they just blindly believe it. All these bogus thinkers who are believers in this sectarian man have never learnt to think for themselves, but have been trained and indoctrinated to believe from an early age. As a result, they have never realised that the right thing to do in life is to muster the energy and strength to think for themselves and not simply believe. Consequently, they believingly fall prey to liars and deceivers, who are disgraceful and despicable as well as vile, shameful and cunning, contemptible, deceitful, perfidious, sly, treacherous, and often even conniving, driving those who think falsely into a belief in some idiotic things and making them dependent on it. This happens in a wise that the masses of humanity are usually deceived by the majority of those who want to get into governments, authorities or other high positions in which they then have something to say, to direct or otherwise ‘report’ in a commanding or simply instructing manner. When they make themselves available, they act as if they cannot hold back a drop of water, present themselves as peaceful, liberal and even religious and close to the people, but this only lasts until they are at the ‘helm’, because then they let the devil out of the bag and show their true colours. They start ‘riding around’ on their fellow citizens, imposing new laws, taxes, ordinances, rules, bans and fines etc., right up to military service, where murder is compulsory and this is then mendaciously proclaimed as ‘self-defence’ and ‘peacemaking’ or ‘peacekeeping’. This is how enormous amounts of taxpayers’ money are squandered on all kinds of nonsense and as ‘aid money’ in foreign countries for this and that, while in our own country many less fortunate people are starving, living on the streets, dying sick and miserable and having to endure all kinds of evil. But this is of no concern to all those who pretend to be miserable, dirty and mendacious hypocrites in order to fraudulently gain their positions, to enrich themselves and also to play out their degenerating might. This is to be seen in the same manner as the religions and various cults that exploit their believers in many ways through lies and deceit and deny them the truth through deception, as this cult leader called Jedi Reach alias Jedaiah Ramnarine does. But enough has been said about that now, I think, so I will move on to other things. Obviously, misunderstandings are arising again, and this time it is about the following, which needs to be clarified.
Questions or issues arise that are unclear or cause concern, such as the following, which Elisabeth answers in detail:
1st question: In the contact reports, nonsensical sports such as football or dangerous extreme sports are mentioned. Now it is not clear to me whether all ball sports are generally nonsensical or not suitable for adults. Could you give a short list of which sports categories (not individual sports) are sensible and which can also be played in competitions, similar to the Plejaren?
Answer: As far as we know, the Plejaren consider moderate sports activities such as hiking, walking, swimming, gymnastics and aerobics to be good sporting activities.
There is also no objection to ball sports of any kind, as long as they are not organised as extreme competitive sports, but as enjoyable, interpersonal and unifying events.
The contact reports primarily refer to football and extreme sporting events, which are entirely dedicated to commerce, the desire for profit, the glorification of sports idols and the financial rip-off of fans. This has developed in a particularly negative wise since huge sums of money have played a major role in the professional sports circus. These competitive sporting events no longer have anything to do with healthy, physical exercise, but are purely a very profitable business model for the persons, advertising agencies, organisers, etc. involved. Viewers at home in front of the TV or in a stadium identify with the success or defeat of their idols, make their mood and spirits dependent on the ‘performance’ of other persons and, depending on the situation, find themselves in an abnormally euphoric state or deeply frustrated and devastated. This behaviour makes human beings dependent, manipulable, lacking in initiative and deluded. This is therefore completely against the nature of human beings, because it is important in every respect for a fulfilled, enjoyable and satisfied life that we are proactive and achieve something ourselves. This can be done through sporting activity, physical and mental labour, as well as by creating our own progressive ideas.
2nd question: Thanks to Eduard’s teachings, it has become clear to me which types and behaviours of sexual intercourse and onanism are for or against the Creational laws and recommendations. It is still unclear to me what the situation is with erotic literature. Is reading such books a violation of the laws and recommendations, even if, for example, they only deal with fictional or fictitious characters?
Answer: According to the Creation-energy teaching, human beings are completely free to satisfy their personal erotic needs, which also applies to erotic literature, as long as they do not violate the Creational-natural laws of decency, morality, respect and the equality of the sexes. This means that degenerations such as prostitution, humiliation, coercion, oppression, mistreatment of another person and even worse such as sexual abuse of children, rape and sodomy should never appear in literature as sexual fantasies or even as acts. Such degenerations have nothing to do with clean eroticism. The human being, even if he/she does not personally practise these acts, would nevertheless contaminate his/her thinking and feeling and his/her psyche with indecent, disrespectful and, in the case of fantasies of abuse, completely degenerate thoughts and thus lower his/her morals to a very low level.
3rd question: I am worried about the future of Earth. Are there no technological advances that the Plejaren could give us (through impulse teachings leading scientists or clever tinkerers) that are safe for Earth-humans? By that I mean new and advanced technology, but which cannot be used to make weapons for further murder and manslaughter.
Answer: It is not responsible for the Plejaren to give impulse teachings to our scientists, because unfortunately it must always be expected that everything would be used in a negative wise. Serious scientists with integrity are few and far between and, unfortunately, they do not have the corresponding powers to implement good ideas that are progressive for earthly humanity.
4th question: There does not seem to be too much interest in geothermal energy; in Switzerland they stopped drilling in Basel when there were a lot of minor earthquakes. Would Earth-humans have to drill much deeper into the Earth’s interior in order to utilise geothermal energy more effectively?
Answer: Drilling deeper into the Earth’s interior would entail the considerable risk of drilling into the magma chambers. Earth science should be aware of this fact.
Ptaah:
Elisabeth’s answers are good and correct, because the practice of sports, as practised in various wise on Earth and mentioned in our conversations, is generally harmful in terms of the excessive inactivity of spectators, who inevitably suffer from a physical atrophy of mobility.
Billy:
In this regard, it is probably necessary for me to explain everything a little more clearly and to clarify the actual meaning of the whole rejection of the various sports, because on Earth very many sports activities are only aimed at making a commercial profit. In other words, only business interests and a trade that brings in money and more money, which is taken from the lowly intelligent and simple-minded spectators through high admission fees, without them realising in their fanaticism and sham thinking that they are not doing themselves any good with their sports mania.
A great many sports are therefore only commercially based and consequently geared towards raking in large sums of money, which is taken out of the pockets of the irresponsible, immobile and also fanatical and stupid spectators. Examples include football and cycling, ice hockey, boxing matches, wrestling, wrestling, gymnastics, handball, tennis, dancing, athletics, horse riding and other commercially exploitable sports. The organisers of these sporting events make themselves very rich by raking in outrageous entrance fees and even amass fortunes in the millions at the expense of fanatical spectators who are unable to think for themselves and willingly allow themselves to be led like blind dogs as their ‘masters’ wish. However, the fact that the majority of these spectators are not involved in sporting activities themselves, but are just stupid and fanatical spectators and thus neglect their physical exercise in a negative wise, making them susceptible to all kinds of illnesses, is not understood anywhere. This is also demonstrated by the fact that a very large proportion of these sports enthusiasts are becoming increasingly obtuse and even deviant in terms of their education and understanding of all the necessities of life. And as I know, you Plejaren once calculated 3 or 4 years ago how many Earthlings there were of this kind in large numbers at that time, a very large proportion of whom had health problems as a result of insufficient physical exercise. In addition to this, you found that another large proportion were unusually uneducated and even completely unfit for independent living.
Ptaah:
That corresponds to what we have fathomed.
Billy:
But these findings resp. clarifications will be of no use, because the Earthlings will not care and even deny everything, because they are unteachable. Only very few will give it any thought of their own. But this question here, where have the largest animals ever lived on land, I should ask you.
Ptaah:
I do not know that, because I have no knowledge of what happened in the Earth’s past and what it was like.
Billy:
Then perhaps that will suffice if I answer and say what I saw with Sfath. When I think what I could observe in the sea in Antarctica, really and truly giant creatures, as well as giant land creatures about 1 million years ago or so – where Asia is today and also South America today – there were giant animals that were also hunted by early humans and used as food. This was indeed the case, even if so-called ‘scientists’ today deny this and claim that there were no early humans back then. But in fact there were, because I have seen them myself hunting large animals, e.g. those whose genus and species still exist today, but which were much larger back then. That was the case where Asia and South America are today; early humans also lived there back then, as did giant animals.
Ptaah:
I am aware of this from my father’s annals, which cover a great deal, but of which I have only been able to read very little. But now I have something else that …
For the original German and English translation, please click here
That dude was sus from the 1st time I saw one of his videos. Lacked modesty, a bit too confident in his understanding of the material, where he’d sllightly twist things and meld it all into his new ageish fantasy view of everything.
Good riddance.
Also was overreaching in trying to goad folks to take the lead on matters through his prompting which felt forced rather than folks come to their own conclusions. Even “calling” out folks here if I recall correctly through his own youtube but this was years ago and basically forgot about this person. He disappeared once he started to champion crypto using Meier’s stuff as glue, a red flag where he went on his own which sounds like the same response I’m reading above to Figu which is no surprise.
Like yourself, I hadn’t kept up with his videos & goings on, but the jig is now up. Silly boy. Hopefully, he will learn something valueful for his life evolution, and not go the route of blaming others and vengeance.
He is already doing so and claiming Billy is a liar. So sad.
Yes, just saw his facebook page. He has gone off the deep end. Totally losing it.
https://www.facebook.com/jedaiahx/
I’ve reported him to facebook. Hopefully they will remove his account so he cannot harm others therethrough.
Not surprised tbh, you only had to look at his website to know exactly who was being talked about, just look at the picture he used to represent himself, it looked like a church figure of sorts, all the words on his website were taken from elsewhere without even an honorary mention of where.
Im actually surprised he got this far, the damage that was done might be quite serious, these things tend to echo into the future when believers are involved.
Its sad in more ways than one.
Anyway what’s done is done and lessons have been learned. Time to move on.
When I used to watch his videos, he was in favour of figu and even did interview with Christian Frehner. Now his facebook page is full of bad comments about them. I mean, if he was doing a really good thing with his channel and site, he’d more likely defend himself, or apologise, instead of those comments – he kinds of reveal his true self now, which I didn’t see before actually, it’s very different.
Greetings.
File this cult under … Re-incarnation Science. Fiction.
PSI: An membership $999.00 ( but it’s below your pray grade) A truth and science-fiction mix for what is freely available within each human and with the teaching of Truth, teaching of Creational energy, Teaching of Life.
The ethics & morals, group cooperation, true democratic understandings of FIGU were jumped over with his re-incarnation delusion and false claims. Imagine –PSI is under the full protection of Arahat Athersata ! https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Arahat_Athersata “The Arahat Athersata is also the first level (or plane) where dwell the pure spirit-forms. It takes a spirit 60 to 80 billion years to evolve into this pure spirit-form’
It’s more important that we learn to think critically, do labor/work and meditate than to only have vast cosmic book knowledge; live with the Laws and recommendations and control your consciousness, think for yourself and steer your own life, you CAN work it out. Get your ship together.
Not to Wow yourself – Know yourself ! (Inner self – Innermost Self) The inner self is the ego personality. Meditate to reach the innermost self. That’s the error of PSI, IMO. In CR 18, https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_010 Semjase states:
94. The spiritual intelligence is enlightened by law-based spiritual principles and is directed toward the creational inner core nature, the absolutely full development, and the power of the creational itself.
95. This is in contrast to the human intelligence, because the human material consciousness is generally concerned only with individual things of the material world.
His reach was unable to grasp real effective Truth; for Jedaiah Ramnarine, The Farce was with him!
SALOME
Thank you for sharing David. Always enjoy those audio/visual aids you provide; they truly enhance my understanding of the subject at hand. Always impressed by your commitment to clarity and accessibility. Salome
I have a question: Isn’t he the translator of Ur x 7? Why do Billy and Plejaren not seem familiar with him? I believe that having his name on the book helps him a lot in deceiving other people.
Hi Yuet,
Yes, unfortunately that is the case. And as I was just informed, the German/English book translation will no longer be available through TheyFly online bookstore or FIGU Canada. Thanks.
Dear Melissa,
I have the book in hand. But, has it been translated correctly so that I can still read its English version?
Thank you.
I will let you know when I find out more details.
I have that book and since I do translations myself, when I began reading it, I was struck by how poor the translation was. He must have run it through google translate or something.
I don’t understand German, so I couldn’t recognise that.
As a former friend of his, I can say that he prided himself on „understanding the material better than anybody without speaking a lick of German“
He indeed used a machine translation (not sure if google) then of course patched it up with his superior understanding. The fact that you think it’s poor quality just shows your low level of comprehension—just as it also shows the inferior understanding of the material by FIGU, Billy and the Plejaren themselves, being that have chosen to discontinue publishing and selling the book.
That’s wild, Seth. With an ego like that, he should apply to the papacy.
Yes, sure. For him to represent the ‘Dark Side of The Force’.
Lol
The situation with Jedi is only one example of the proliferation of the long for warned of arrival of self–promoting disinformation spreaders.
There’s another example of an over-the-top, delusional, egomaniacal, cynical, conniving, lunatic, deliberately spewing unbelievable idiocy regarding UFO contacts with “Pleiadians” – and imaginary “Queens” no less. And this one seems to also have gathered a brain-dead, following around her and her cartoonish team:
youtube.com/@SwaruuOficial/videos
It isn’t enough, of course, to have the degenerate influences of terrestrial religions, polluting everything, because now there’s an ever-increasing glut of young profiteers, who salivate at the idea of getting their faces out into the world, gaining fame and fortune with their stupidity and lies, who have found a fertile field for their crap in the overall realm of UFOlogy.
Brace yourselves.
Please Michael Horn,
Right now, 18 April 2024, 16:54, I just sent to you an E-mail containing the answer that Billy Meier said to me, in regards to Jedi Reach alias Jedaiah Ramnarine.
Please Michael Horn, open your E-mail to read Billy’s words. I also translated his E-mail into English language for you for a better understanding.
Saalome and best regards Michael,
J.B.S
Brazil
Thanks a lot.
Yuet, yes he is! My question: Is the English translation even correct!
Patty, what a waste for his talent…
This ‘JEDI KNIGHT’ dude is definitively NOT with ‘The Force’.
Take a good look at his real and true photography here attached.
This is JEDI REACH also known as JEDAIAH RAMNARINE.
It is over for you Jedi Reach!
you must tread carefully, you will open the door for FIGU to be sued in international court, and despite the glee, that would not be good press, unless Ptaah is willing to testify and say how they obtained his PERSONAL information. Just see how you react when someone asks about your personal information.
Caution and restraint are indeed good ideas. Jedi is already on a causal collision course with his own self-created deceptions, etc.
🙂 LoL
I don’t understand what personal info you are referring to?
His real name and his picture, that have now been used too publicly defame him, and cost him material losses. It’s valid I think, exposing him, but the courts may see it differently.
I understand the concerns, but it appears that those things are already in the public domain. At any rate, I agree that everyone should take caution with their comments.
Then this delusional ‘Jedi Knight Without a Lightsaber and Whitout The Force’ will go completely bankrupt, not a single coin left in his pocket, when he files an international lawsuit against himself because of this:
The original source of his own photography. to the whole Planet Earth to see.
If the subject’s photograph has fallen on the Web meshes of this thing denominated Internet, then it’s over, ‘Jedi Knight Without a Lightsaber’ has already lost control over it, it became public domain. His image has no copyrights.
He himself has already tarnished, smeared, his own image.
He’ll have to sell all of his useless pulp fiction books very cheaply at a garage/front yard sale in order to pay the lawyers for the international lawsuit.
Do not mind about FIGU and this dude.
It’s in the public domain. There is absolutely nothing he can do about it anymore. Game over for him.
Click on the link below to see it for yourself.
Public Domain.
https://www.booklemur.com/authors/jedireach.html
If a lawsuit would ever be filed, I would testify on behalf of FIGU. I’ve seen his conduct first hand and it is pathetic. I also have all the WhatsApp group messages from 2018 when I was there for a month or so. If anyone is misrepresenting anyone it’s Jedi Reach.
Very good! Then just keep all the WhatsApp group messages from 2018 filed and safe. Make prints of everything.
I guess someone will still ‘believe’ that Billy and Plejaren friends are acting to protect him and their sect members for their safety, so that the secret agencies or something would ignore their secret ‘mission’…
Just like, when Billy once used the fake name of Plejaren to identify the deceivers in the early stage, my concern is that they may take it as an example.
But anyway, everyone has to think themselves.
I’ve seen this clown before, but I can’t place where. Some video group conference pod thinkie or something like that.
I felt creepy vibes from him then and still do.
D.
Probably you’ve seen him on YouTube. He has two or three channels on YouTube. He also has a YouTube channel dedicated only to video games. Video games clips in hundreds. He is fanatical for video games.
If I’m not mistaken, Jedaiah Ramnarine had a nasty spat with Michael Horn a few years ago, five years ago or so. But I haven’t been able to find again this old video of Jedaiah Ramnarine where he arrogantly challenged Michael Horn’s arguments.
Maybe Michael Horn himself has a link of this old video. I really don’t know.
Regarding the video conversation with Jedi from 2019, I removed out from YT and thought I didn’t have it anymore. But I recently found it on an old laptop.
I’ve sent it to FIGU and asked if they thought it would or wouldn’t be helpful to re-post it. I’m awaiting their response.
Jedi had contacted me to do an interview but I had several important questions to ask him first. The one-hour+ conversation was very interesting in terms of how he answered – or didn’t answer – those questions. He said he would be posting the conversation…but never did.
I’d made a safety copy just in case something went wrong…which it clearly did.
Dear Michael Horn,
How nice that you still have this old video where you debate with the ‘Jedi Knight Without a Lightsaber and Whitout The Force’.
If, by any chance, FIGU approves and authorises you to republish this video again on YouTube, in my opinion it would be interesting for you to make an introduction talking about those last Contact Reports numbers 883 and 884. So that all the people who watch this video can understand the case in great detail.
My sincere opinion Michael Horn.
Saalome and my best regards Michael.
Dear Jose,
Yes, if I should post it again, it would have an appropriate written introduction.
BTW, I was able to view the PSI interview I linked to but my friend isn’t in it.
MH, what is the benefit of releasing that video? Remember, we all make mistakes, just as you and others are well aware of how we create our own problems. We need to allow others to learn from their mistakes without needing to “save face” for our own mistakes. If you had not approached him and allowed him to fall on his face due to his own errors and degenerate behaviors and actions, he would not have made it this far. You have “free will” to do whatever you want to do and this includes thinking about your own behaviors and actions. It is about universal love and being kind and gentle with people even during their worst times. Do you agree?
Hi Michelle,
Please notice that I haven’t re-released that video from five years ago yet. If I do, it would have nothing to do with so-called “saving face”, any more than I would think your question indicates that you would want him to avoid “losing” any.
The fact is that Jedi approached me to help me put out various videos. Over time, I became a little suspicious about certain things, like when he kept on asking me who was going to succeed me when I died, etc.
It was only by accident that I found he had been stealing from me and confronted him. He paid the money back and then I had let go of the whole thing.
There were questions that then arose, not only with me, but also among other people who were questioning things that he was saying, and doing. When he took the opportunity to say he wanted to interview me, I decided to pose those questions, as I said. So, instead of releasing the video again, I wrote to FIGU to see if they felt it would make a contribution to this discussion and situation. And, in my mind, the benefit might be to those who only see the show he puts on as being some kind of wise and enlightened, loving and caring person. The reality I encountered was quite different in the making of that video, and the fact that he said that it would be released and then failed to do so was also telling.
There are times when we don’t “look good”, I’ve had plenty, and yet we allow our imperfections (or true intentions) to be seen rather than conveniently lose them, or whatever. I will see if FIGU even responds to my request about the video.
To be clear, and contrary to Jedi’s concerns that I’ve somehow lost my independence, etc., I don’t need their or anyone else’s permission to post it but I don’t want to muddy the waters, or post some things that Billy and the Plejaren, in their wisdom and perspective, would feel would be unnecessary in this regard.
Salome.
I would just like to point out too that no one can succeed or take the place of Michael Horn, just as no one can take the place of any other person. In a clear lack of wisdom and foresight, he failed to understand that one must always put in their own work and effort. We should all want to become our own person and not pretend to be anything else. It seems that Jedi wants so desperately to step into the shoes of other people that he forgot to work on his own evolution.
Hopefully now he will take the opportunity to reflect on his actions and work towards changing things for the better.
I noticed issues some time ago, but I did not directly interfere, I just used creative methods to make my point. It sounds like the issues btw you and him are personal. At any rate, if you use all of the skills and abilities you’ve developed over the years, you will know what to do by just thinking for yourself, without asking FIGU, about how to handle this situation
Why does it seem to bother you that Michael asked FIGU for advice? Do you take issue with others asking Billy for advice, or Billy asking Ptaah for guidance? Developing one’s skills, abilities and insights can often involve following the guidance and recommendations of trusted sources. There’s not a single person on this planet who hasn’t asked for advice.
The past issues with Jedi involved a lot more people than just personal issues between him and Michael. It may actually be enlightening to Jedi’s members who are on the fence. The truth can be recognized by those who make the conscious choice to strive for it.
hey Melissa, personally If something such as CR 884 was written concerning me, it would be enough for me to “check myself”, sadly, it appears the damage has been done.
This could potentially ruin his life? Honestly, we can all be manipulated, deceived, indoctrinated, but retaliation only hurts the individual engaging in the behavior. BEAM has put out thousands of pages of information for all of us to use and make decisions, meaning after awhile my parents grew tired of me asking questions, therefore, I would go to the library to find answers and self educate myself to figure things out on my own and trust me, it feels liberating to learn from your mistakes. Again, free will
peace and love
Here’s the way I look at it. If only someone would have stopped the Christian sect in its beginnings, or the Islamic sect and all the others. These things cannot be allowed to fester ever again because this world is a very sick and barbaric place due to unchecked religious delusion and consciousness enslavement. Most people already know that Jedi will likely continue with his superiority complex, but his followers can still break free from his madness, and I hope that every last one of them are able to free themselves. Salome
No, the issues, if there are any between us, are about principles, truth, accountability, etc.
When I asked to represent Billy Meier in the American media, 20 years ago, I also told them that I would stay in communication with, and accountable to, them.
I was very aware of the problems that Randy Winters got himself into and which ultimately resulted in his being asked to NOT represent, or promote the material, etc. I wanted to avoid getting…Winterized.
That doesn’t mean that I have to agree with everything in the material, etc. But to me, in light of some recent bumps in the road, I want to make sure that I don’t inadvertently overshoot the mark and add to any problems.
Of course I also suggest that people – especially those who may still follow Jedi – ponder why he never before claimed to be in direct communication with the AA level, or the Plejaren, why he also apparently has no real, documented (or revealed) life history of the kinds of trials and tribulations Meier and all the prophets of the past had, and needed to have, for the necessary character-building, etc. Instead we get a sci-fi writing internet baby with a concocted resume, absent real evidence.
Perhaps they’ll also ponder why, with his magical, imaginary abilities regarding past lives, it seems that he, and some others who’ve spoken up, were only very well-known and important people. Whatsamatter, didn’t anybody collect the garbage in their past lives?
Ironically, the old video I spoke about reveals there’s nothing personal going on. It also reveals what happens when you ask a slick self-promoter simple, easy to answer questions – and an hour later they’re still…unanswered.
honesty, sounds like mental illness and based on my experience with those suffering from it, usually they do not recover. During these times, due to the effects and consequences, so many people will fall into an abyss of mental illness and will not know they are suffering esp those diagnosed as Schizophrenic…thus the “spin in their thoughts” will continue forever….
That may be so. Considering how uncompromisingly direct the Plejaren and Meier, with their insights, were in describing him, I think that overall we should be understanding but cautious. We don’t need to pile on him, especially if we consider that those who, as you say, “fall into an abyss of mental illness”, even if it’s of their own making, face a true, living hell.
I also agree with the other people commenting on the blog who speak about neutrality and compassion. That is the healthy way to view this and, in so doing, we don’t make things worse for him, or ourselves.
A mistake is shitting your pants when you initially intended to fart.
Jedi’s actions were no mistake, he had a clear and ulterior motive, fact.
Salome,
Charles
Since I cannot read his mind, thankfully, I focus on behaviors and actions. As far as his attentions, I think the results speak for themselves. “Evil intentions are patient”
The following was sent to me by someone who wishes to remain anonymous for now, so as to avoid retaliation, etc. I have been in communication previously with them and I can attest to their personal knowledge regarding the PSI cult:
“Jedi has misrepresented Billy and has tried to tarnish his importance since I encountered him several years back. His comments came as jealousy and disrespect for Meier, as he is the ONLY human being that the Plejaren have EVER contacted. However, Jedi being blinded by his own jealousy, has actually proven the reason why Billy is the ONLY contactee. With Jedi twisting and putting his false delusions and incorporating New Age propaganda and his own personal ideologies into the spiritual teachings. With Billy being the only one, this eliminates the manipulation and falsification of the spiritual teachings. I think we all have learned this reasoning now. The spiritual teachings and the message needs to be protected from self-driven pathological liars who only look out for themselves in their quest for money, acceptance and power.
“PSI has their own study groups where they put their own interests and interpretations of the spiritual teachings and is moderated by Jedi. He will twist people’s opinions until they are in line with his own. This is not free will. This is a religious cult.
“Jedi claims that through impulses he is being contacted and led to build and grow the PSI group and dismiss Billy altogether. This is a lesson for all of us to trust in your local FIGU community and “Official Representatives” of the FIGU community’s. The corrective actions FIGU have put in place as a review of any translated material are essential moving forward.
“Questions regarding any unsure translations to other languages should be brought to the countries OFFICIAL FIGU REPRESENTATIVES. To have the translations corrected and improved upon. FIGU Canada has done an excellent job of posting any errors in translations on their website.
“We are a community. Not a cult. All responsibility is our own and if we see any further cults like PSI come up, we should let our representatives know.”
Dear Michael Horn,
This what Billy Meier told me today (Wednesday 17 April 2024), answering my E-Mail to him, in regard to Jedi Reach.
Read it please Michael.
Von: Billy
Datum: Mi, 17 Apr 2024, 04:14
Betreff: Re: Lügners namens Jedi Reach, auch bekannt als Jedaiah Ramnarine, in einem nächsten Plejaren-Kontaktbericht veröffentlichen. Re: WER IST DIE BETRÜGER JEDI REACH ALIAS JEDAIAH RAMNARINE?? Hier beigefügt Foto des Lügners namens Jedi Reach, auch bekannt als Jedaiah Ramnarine.
An: Adjutor777 Brasilien
Lieber José,
Vielen Dank für deine email und ich habe es zur Kenntnis genommen. Bezüglich Jedi Reach werde ich Ptaah fragen, wie weiter vorgegangen werden soll. Für mich ist die Sache eigentlich erledigt.
Liebe Grüsse,
Billy
Translation:
Dear José,
Thank you for your email and I have taken note of it. Regarding Jedi Reach, I will ask Ptaah how to proceed. For me, the matter is actually closed.
Kind regards,
Billy
I would like to see this person ask FIGU for advice on what he should do get himself out of this. It is never too late to start doing what is right. He obviously cared enough about the mission to translate one of the books. It would be a simple solution for them to ask for advice now from FIGU on what steps they should take to solve their problems. I think it is a good idea to ask FIGU for advice because then everyone in the future from this can only ever say he made a mistake and corrected it, if he follows the advice.
There’s a difference between caring about the mission and caring about money and power. If one truly cared about the mission, they would have worked tirelessly to bring forth a reliable and satisfactory piece of translation work. A great number of people spent their hard earned money on a poor quality and inadequate piece of work. Not only that, but the possibility exists that he deliberately cut corners in order to achieve the highest possible profit. Only the most deceitful and arrogant profiteer would do such a sham job on such a priceless piece of knowledge.
Jedi doesn’t want to learn and evolve and strive like everyone else. He wants to be seen as a powerful figure at the top of the pyramid while his cult followers do all the dirty work, which of course he finds too menial for himself. He wants to sit back and collect the big bucks instead of doing any real or honest work. In addition to that, he’s been claiming that Billy and all FIGU members are frauds and liars who are stupid and unevolved. He made a slew of other delusional and fraudulent claims that I won’t stoop to repeating. Meanwhile, he also claims to be under the protection of Arahat Athersata, one of the higher Creation-energy realms.
Plain and simple, Jedi has a long road of work ahead of him. He will have to help himself since the responsibility falls on each individual to think for themselves and strive to be a real human being.
This guy really is an incurable schizophrenic. There’s no solution for this guy. Only by being urgently hospitalised in some psychiatric institution.
Yes I agree with you, he should bring himself back down to Earth and work on righting his many wrongs. In my opinion, he can start by publishing an apology and acknowledgement of all the mistakes he has made. Then he can get an actual job and work his ass off with the initial goal in mind of paying back all of the people he has scammed and conned over the years. He can then become a FIGU passive member, start learning German and also start being honest with himself and everyone else about his own capabilities, and constantly work to improve them.
Then he can work to translate a FIGU book responsibly, and give every effort to make sure that it is a quality translation that has passed all the necessary inspections. Of course it would be an arduous uphill struggle to carry any of this out, and surely he will have to work doubly hard to gain back all of the trust he has lost in all his deep, multi-faceted treachery. However, if he shows a genuine willingness and a consistent desire to change for the better, then I would say he should be allowed to redeem himself—everyone one deserves a chance at redemption.
I think its a good idea to ask someone claiming to be in contact with ETs to provide evidence. I don’t care if they’re Mohammand I’m Hard Bruce Lee, you can’t change the subject.
We have been warned about CERN and its uses, for example coming on during the solar eclipse. Could you look at CERN or share information here? Being in Switzerland take extra caution of the low astral vibrations. This can have major adverse ceffect on human behavior as as geology of volcanos, etc.
Hah, haha, haha! LOL!
Jedi Reach has certainly truly been following/reading all the postings here on Theyflyblog.com very very closely.
Jedi Reach ran off with his tail between his legs when he realised that he had been publicly unmasked to the whole world by the Plejaren and Billy Meier.
JEDI-REACH-aka-Jedaiah-Ramnarine has just deleted, he ERASED, his entire website. His website is gone! It disappeared from the Internet. It’s gone up in smoke!
I took a print of his defunct Website, see the image attached here.
The website that belonged to Jedi Reach no longer exists, see here at the link below for yourselves, the now defunct Jedi Reach’s Website:
http://www.psiraise.com/
There’s always a solution…
https://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/http://www.psiraise.com
Salome,
Charles
A friend (who Jedi told was…Cleopatra in a past life) sent me this:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/interview-with-19384242?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2Akzu8HrLrgZR6nGgGwLiE_HtqFIDMQTuQyTDfbial5V2Db6QkXOEb-tI_aem_ASmda5J0lj0LG3SiBSaZavbmZOijYKqBgBSVle6me9k_5o317DszUR57NCIxTgOAKcd7AQWRMlkZ9cq5epQjDWlW
BTW, she did have. good laugh about it.
PSI… True meaning. It means:
P.S.I = Psychotic Sickness Illness.
By the way. It is impossible to access this interview with Jedi and Cleopatra herself in person.
LOL LOL
I think that Jedi Reach also, very fastly, has deleted his interview with Cleopatra at the above mentioned Link posted by Michael Horn.
LOL LOL
It appears the video is still there, who knows for how long.
Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/interview-with-19384242
YouTube:
In case he deletes it, no worries, it’s been saved.
This situation, due to Jedi’s creations are a perfect example of the saying:
“F*** around and find out”, sung to the tune of “I fought the Law“, moreso, “He f***ed around and he found out, he f***ed around and he found out”.
What a waste of his energies and efforts, just like all other charlatans and scammers.
There’s always a solution.
Salome,
Charles
In this video this Jedi dude implied that he is beyond Michael Horn, beyond Billy Meier, beyond the Plejaren, beyond everything, beyond Star Wars, beyond Yoda etc, etc,
I see, then, that this madman thinks he himself is the Wisest of the Wises in the whole 7 Universes. This guy is a true and real psychotic and a deranged hallucinated schizophrenic.
Learning the teachings of creation and using them to get rich with bitcoin, lol
you couldn’t make it up!
He went off on his Facebook yesterday with a lot of FIGU slander but I don’t see anything wrong here with his motivations for involvement in the mission. The calling FIGU a white power cult showed him to be feeling race inferiority, but he is likable, so what specifically has be done wrong?
Distorting and falsifying the Creation-energy Teaching along with the information in the contact reports. On top of that, he claims to be in contact with the Plejaren and the AA level. His most recent claims about FIGU show how deep his delusions go.
Seems like he has setup a new website: http://www.nokodemionthefalseprophet.com
Yeah, He came across as reasoned in that video but I just found his latest Facebook post. The man has severe psychological problems.
To whom it may concern.
I have just learnt, via Billy Meier himself, that there will be more news about JEDI-REACH-aka-Jedaiah-Ramnarine, in the next publication of FIGU-Zeitzeichen and in the next Contact Report…
Therefore
Stand by…
I think that dog is dead, let’s keep it buried and move on, if we keep digging it up, it only smells worse and worse, and then I will have to wash my clothes.
“Billy: When they make themselves available, they act as if they cannot hold back a drop of water, present themselves as peaceful, liberal and even religious and close to the people, but this only lasts until they are at the ‘helm’, because then they let the devil out of the bag and show their true colours. They start ‘riding around’ on their fellow citizens, imposing new laws, taxes, ordinances, rules, bans and fines etc., right up to military service, where murder is compulsory and this is then mendaciously proclaimed as ‘self-defence’ and ‘peacemaking’ or ‘peacekeeping’.”
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Billy right again about being ‘rode’ around literally:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/auto-ban-german-minister-threatens-the-end-of-weekend-driving/
just thought yall might get a good laugh out of this but fun fact:
not too long ago there was a ufo cult that died out almost as quicky as it was formed that was called the blue chicken cult led by someone named Corey Good, lol
How long did this dude participate on this blog?
His site is back up:
https://www.psiraise.com/
From his site/home page:
“Truth: Billy Meier has been falsifying the contact reports for decades. His son revealed this, though you idiots chased him away. Nothing in the contact reports are as they seem and the true “Ps” are furious this charlatan has been lying. They’ve been at an “information war” for years, trying to send counter-intelligence to anyone reading the contact reports so they can “read between the lines.” That is why Meier created his Creation-energy cult teaching so he can delude his stupid followers into believing everything he’s said. And this, my friends, is our Peace Seeking Intelligence – PSI report. Please, post this in your contact reports. We’re waiting.
This was always the function of PSI: an undercover operation to unravel the cult of Billy Meier and Jedi Reach was our secret agent.”
Sure it was Jedi, sure it was.
Now he is a secret agent of/for the Plejaren, seriously?!?! He is delusional, psychotic and a schizophrenic loser. Grasping at straws is a sign of desperation. Desperation is a smelly cologne and Jedi reeks. Unless warranted, I’m done with this d’bag. Let him stew in his own stench.
There are more important things in life to address than going to battle with some loser who is simply an oxygen thief and contributes nothing to this planet.
Salome,
Charles
He managed to infiltrate a free and open community who welcomes all human beings.
Remember, he was kicked out because Billy “personally cannot remember ANY past life.” So, that suggests the burden of Proof is to Prove you can remember living a past life. Ball is still in his court to provide, as the French would say, evidence.
When one person suffers from a delusion, it’s called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it’s called religion, occultism, mysticism, esotericism, freemasonry, theosophy, sectarianism and spiritism.
Over the last few years, with the gradual emergence of the “Internet”, countless irresponsible Ufological hoaxers, pseudo-contactees, fraudulent, know-it-alls and wiseacres, rogue Ufologists/UAPists and greedy Ufological crooks, swindlers, thieves, and charlatans of all shades and hues, as well as countless honourable Ufologists/UAPists, who are absolutely computer-savvy, have found themselves in a huge and immeasurable new field of activity. All of them seeking only for glamour, glory, lots of money and self-aggrandisement.
Like little flaming lights they made themselves known on the computer screen and in the Internet world’s press via the Internet – literally conquering it. As a bad side effect, through the many alleged “UFO contactees” the internet has probably become the world’s Biggest Madhouse. People who in the past could hardly or did not have the possibility of reaching the public with their ideas of their cult-religious UFO doctrines nowadays with a certain ease produce their own individual homepage and put it on the Internet.
And especially those who are deceivers, demented, profit sharks, charlatans, “saints” and “sent from god”, as well as those obsessed by the “holy spirit” or the “devil” and other self-deceived and lying people who call themselves mediums and “contactees channellers”, appear with these evil machinations, as well as those supposedly “contacted” by the “devil” and by possible and impossible spirits, demons and life forms of all kinds, from beyond, from this world, and from all over the Universe.
However, those directly involved and their believers certainly never want to recognise that everything is usually just lies and frauds, as well as often self-deception.
More and more, the storm tides of books pour out the crazy stuff of religionists, sectarians, “channellers”, mediums, esotericists, philosophers and politicians, etc., on human beings who are searching for life and the meaning of life, who eagerly reach for these meaningless books and are condescendingly led astray.
For human beings, it is only important for them to indulge in any false teachings and to be able to believe them without questioning everything and without letting reason and understanding prevail. Even scholars believe in the insanity of these false teachings, and not infrequently they delve into them, delve into ancient writings until they reach the point of exhaustion of their consciences or even psychological collapse, in order to research and to reflect, until they become half mad.
Never believe these liars and frauds called channellers. These farcical, fraudulent and lying esoteric hoaxers, conjurers of the dead and of spirits, false diviners, clairvoyants and false mediums pretending to speak for supernatural beings from other dimensions and with extraterrestrial beings from the depths of the Universe are so numerous that they can no longer be counted.
Anyone else on Earth who claims to be contacted by beings from the Pleiades, Mars, Venus, Jupiter, Uranus, the Moon, etc. or any other unknown planet in the Universe, or with any extraterrestrial beings whatsoever, is blatantly LYING, or suffering from some kind of psychosis, dementia, schizophrenia, or hallucination; the same goes for all the myriads of “channellers”, “mediums”, “Ufonauts contactees” etc. that exist on the face of the Planet Earth.
I’m not so sure about that, there are 5 ET races on this planet right now. Who is to say that no one has been contacted by them? We are surrounded by 6 other realms and who knows how many dimensions. The Federation is but a small piece of a giant puzzle. We read in the contact reports many times how certain individuals are influenced by “impulses” when they have or might discover something good or that which needs to be suppressed. Maybe some of these people are being contacted by their future selves our sol ends 379 million years from now, so we have had to boogy somewhere. You cannot debunk all the people that Edgar Cayce helped, and the things he described identical to what Billy has said. You never know when 2 swinging waves will converge and open a channel to…….
The future self being in contact with the past self is incredibly attractive . I wish someone had advised me properly at 16. I wish he knew what I know now.
I have thought how great it would be to be visited or influenced by my future self and thought, well how about I meditate and realize visiting and influencing myself at a crucial time in the past. Perhaps this will create the possibility for a reciprocal action, where I could draw knowledge from my future self on how to navigate this present.
It’s the law of equal and opposite reaction. Immanuel did the impossible with feeding thousands from a hand basket with his knowledge of the laws. Now what law he used that day is far beyond my comprehension but the fact is he used one.
I’m glad you brought this up.
I don’t really want to be pedantic man but in light of recent events it was 250 people he fed.
CR 38 and 207
OH is that all it was?> Woh,I could’ve done that !
He had it right until the very end.
Yeah, that fish thing is a bunch of religious fantasy as are most all of the other stuff too. Read Talmud Jmmanuel, we probably have been influenced by our future selves many times, we just haven’t recognized it and wrote it off as to many beers! Yes, we all wish we would have known then what we know now, but in that case the journey wouldn’t be worth taking!
Don’t take any chances with your thinking there Ruddy boy,, stay right where you are and make sure everyone else does too,, in the mean time,,, eat my dust !!!
From what I am reading on the PSI it’s a place where skeptics gather though they themselves may not be awrae of it yet. They often end up in delusional places as a result of their inflated ego based skeptism which is a form of belief.