Update from Christian Frehner (FIGU SSSC)
The following details regarding the translation of Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ursprung aller Existenz have been given by Christian Frehner:
No, the Urx7 book wasn’t corrected/double-checked by a FIGU member. We (FIGU SSSC) don’t check any translation regarding quality, because we are responsible for the German originals. However, since about 1 year we (Billy/FIGU) have new regulations that require that each translated book must be double-checked sentence by sentence by two FIGU members who are mastering both German and the language in question. Only when these 2 persons confirm the best-possible accuracy/quality etc., will there be a publishing contract.
The contract with Jedi is null and void = terminated, and the sale of that book should be stopped because its translation quality is very bad, based on the result of a check by experts from last week.
The following information has been brought to our attention:
The English translation of the book written by Billy Meier, Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ursprung aller Existenz (Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Origin of All Existence), does not meet the necessary standards.
The translation done by Jedi Reach of PSI, Peace Seeking Intelligence, will no longer be available through TheyFly online bookstore or FIGU Canada.
Anyone already in possession of the book can decide for themselves whether they want to continue to study the information contained in the book. As more details become available, this page will be updated accordingly.
Please use this section for all discussions regarding the English translation of the book.
Like the old TJ that was falsified by sectarian influences, I say just scrap it if it was translated falsely and maliciously or has any affiliation with a deceitful charlatan.
I’m hope other more trustworthy, truthworthy, loyal and dignified multilingual FIGU members might offer their time as many wonderful and hard-working people have done so already. Easy for me to say of course, but these gargantuan efforts by the translators is extraordinary.
When it comes to this Judah, aka Jedi, nothing from this unscrupulous man should ever be associated with the FIGU again.
Truly dispicable, disgusting and abhorrent behaviour to falsify these teachings with such unconscionable falsehoods like the deviant egomaniacs of old, and for what? Profit? Fame? Cult mania?
Ironic how his cult is named Psi, because thanks to this exposure of his lies he’ll be left rather deflated.
Jedi, provides good quality content on his youtube channel (in English). I am a subscriber and he is really good in my view to share insights related to the spiritual teaching, I never doubted that and never heard anything “fishy” in what he says.
As Billy Meier said, we should teach by…example.
The examples of his hypocrisy, deceit, deflation, lies and false claims exist in abundance.
Perhaps ask him to post the interview he did of me, about five years ago. He must certainly still have it.
Michael,
My experience with Jedi started in 2018 when he started this PSI group. Let’s just say it never lasted long. I believe I emailed you with a warning about his conduct regarding his attitude towards you.
This Charlatan, would speak openly to the group about him being the one to take the reins (so to speak) with his PSI group once Billy passes away. He would also state that Billy is weak because of his age. He claims to be a master of meditation and can manipulate singing waves and influence reality. He also pressured me to pay for a flight so he could go to visit his girlfriend in Germany. He would speak behind Michael’s back and then invite him to his YouTube channel. I very quickly learn that he was a fraud from the get go and I never fully understood why he was brought back into the group to write that book. He mixes the false teachings of other outrageous religions and beliefs systems and incorporates them into the spiritual teachings. His absurd ideas and degenerate conduct is now fully exposed for everyone to see. I feel bad for everyone being misled my this cult. I hope through critical thinking and reason that they will start to realize that he is leading them down a dark path.
He is not a Jedi. He is a Sith hidden in the shadows.
Just for clarification, I never paid for his flight or contributed to his cult in any way.
*Swinging waves* not singing waves ♂️
My eyesight is getting bad with my age for these keyboards on these …
I’ve think I heard this Jeti clown on Ohio Exopolitics with Mark Snider. Not sure where Ohio Exopolitics stands regarding accuracy but he appeared to be in favor of the case but he also relayed a few topics slightly incorrect which isn’t hard to do with respect to the amount of info in the reports.
D.
MH
Teaching by example with kindness and patience.
D.
Gday Michael, i had an app that lets me download vids from youtube, i kept that interview incase anyone wanted it, its on my hdd somewhere but i can keep an eye out for it…
Give all your money to him then.
Maybe it’s time to consider the incredible nonsense that he spreads. He claims to be an Jschwjsch and the reincarnation of Einstein. And his most recent claim of having protection from the Arahat Athersata Creation-energy realm. I would think about these things and try to recognize the truth.
He must have come with Cleve. along with Billy and Ptaah from the Arahat Athersata Now that’s 2 delusional earthworms we only have 9.5 billion to go.
Just curious what authority bestowed upon him the title of Jschwjsch as well as all the voluminous evidence required thereof? Pretty obvious no one on Earth bestows such a title and I dont recall any detailed qualification list or rigorous 3rd party examination done by independent audit to verify such a claim because, of course, the P’s stuff works only on their side of the pond and we will need Earthly values for these Earthly claims since we’re on Earth here. 🙂
The sad part is that it gets much worse than that with claims about Nokodemion, Billy and so on.
Unbelievable. Who knows what stories he conjured for his followers in terms of who they may have been as well. There is always collateral with these cults. As Ptaah has said this won’t be easy for them.
A wizard of Oz moment indeed.
It’s a sad ending for “the Jedi”, degenerated into an insignificant joke.
Far worse are the poor followers who have fallen for the impotence of a sick man.
How to hit his message and parasitic behaviour as hard as possible?
What can we do for the lost followers who have been led astray?
Is it possible to have his communication platforms shut down?
Is it possible to get access to the followers’ contact details so they can be informed of a full stop?
He seems to be using Billy and Figu as a trademark for his economic mission, recycling and misquoting, but that’s not legal = a lawsuit?
Since his poor translations in URx7 are now causing a halt to book sales = Figu could claim a loss
Salome
Eddie
Jedi, like everyone else, has the right to free speech.
I don’t think we can or should try to influence/interfere with his followers, etc.
Billy Meier and the Plejaren have stated their positions and made some rather emphatic statements about his character, etc.
I think it’s fair enough tout factual things in the record, let those who’ve come to their senses share their experiences, etc.
FIGU, a non-profit organization, probably isn’t concerned about losses of sales, especially of a book that has, unfortunately, been revealed to be flawed.
We’ll see if they have more to say about the issue.
One can see this line of thought in its correctness. Folks can come to their own thoughts on the matter and when others come to say negative things about those they listen to, or admire. What usually happens is that those who are following something or someone, further entrench themselves even harder when a foreigner comes to them with new information that they cannot cope with.
Just as an example, when speaking about the exponential growth of the overpopulation, what I observe is that at times these podcast shows, instead of listening to what their viewers and listeners have to say, they further entrench themselves in their beliefs, no matter if an argument is posed that comes with logic and not with dark-fantasy of Malthusian scare tactic mumbo-jumbo.
Having to encounter someone who we thought may be helping with the sharing of the BEAM material, turn out to be something entirely different is disheartening, but I suppose it is as it is and as it should be.
Observing how individuals form their own social media podcast shows, and reading how viewers react and post adoration for any and all worldviews without even thinking twice on whether what they hear is right or wrong, one can easily see that viewership can quickly turn into cult followings. If there is a better description to describe a new church, new religions and new faiths and beliefs, it can be found in places where individuals find themselves being adorned by viewers who pay subscriptions, patronages and likes on places like youtube and rumble. Noticed this when listening to some independent media whereby podcasters speak to the listeners in the manner that priests and bishops do, with fire and brimstone.
It’s like fame. what would some people do to be famous, some would even kill for it. A little lie here and there and bam you’re a god. And then you run for congress or start a YouTube channel.
yes, too fairy tale claims, I guess best to learn directly from the source, i.e. figu sites…
“Jedi, provides good quality content on his youtube channel”
Not anymore.
A liar of that caliber does not offer good quality content, he offers crude disqualifying discontent.
Funny you mentioned being, ‘fishy’ since anyone foolishly accepting that fraud very much took the bait.
I think your words you shared from two separate recent posts are very apt in this context.
I hope you don’t mind – but I think they are worth repeating:
The reason why religion breaks off into so many cults and sects is because of interpretation, Dakar. This common problem with human beings is caused when someone is given pieces of a puzzle and instead of spending many years, lifetimes even, finding the final pieces to fathom true wisdom, they cheat and invent their own because they need to squeeze through the gap with the least amount of resistance and effort; but because the puzzle appears complete to the uninitiated, they’ll willingly deceive themselves and others into believing this to be the beacon of truth and thus, reality.
yet beneath the facade lies nothing more than zealousness trying to appear all-knowing and far more than what and who they truly are.
This comparison made between bible and Billy exists in one way only, in how someone of a dishonest and manipulative nature cherry picks the ‘stuff’ they find useful to achieve their self-rightous cause to appear knowing of the truth and therefore anointed.
But bring out the meat and potatoes and suddenly the charlatans can chew and can’t swallow.
I never understood this name, “peace-seeking intelligence”, and I even thought, “for what”? and thence never really took an interest to the content.
Anonymous.
Probably a twisted spinoff of the Multinational Peace-Fighting Troop.
D.
Para evitar este tipo de inconvenientes, es bueno seguir las directrices que se nos ha dejado desde mucho tiempo atrás con el tema de la traducción. En mi caso tengo solo 3 libros de Meier y siempre traduzco la información desde el alemán porque me da mejor traducción que del Inglés. Esto siempre ha sido un tema de importancia al cual se le debe prestar atención. Y aunque también se sabe que desde el alemán la traducción de la enseñanza no es fiel, por lo menos nos evitamos la falsificación de la misma, pues, proviene de Meier de su idioma natal…
Translation added by admin:
To avoid this kind of problems, it is good to follow the guidelines that have been left to us for a long time on the subject of translation. In my case I have only 3 Meier books and I always translate the information from German because it gives me a better translation than from English. This has always been an important issue to pay attention to. And although it is also known that from German the translation of the teaching is not accurate, at least we avoid the falsification of it, because it comes from Meier from his native language…
Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
Too bad. I’m at p.249 in the Urx7 Origin of All Existence book…
Can now move on to another book…
The German original is still there so it still has great value, though the reliance on the English translation that coincide with it may be in question.
as a survivor of the Independant Fundamental Baptist cult, i am willing to bet 100 bucks that one of these days he will be exposed for being a sexual predator and exploiting money. cult leaders are all the same.
i actually personally know ANOTHER guy who basically turned his family into a cult, twisting the BEAM material into his favor and has a fake aerospace project with a youtube channel that he uses money he makes from his channel and donations toward the so called fake aerospace project to pay for food and to provide for his family because he refuses to get a job while exploiting his mother’s retirement income to provide for his family. even then that’s not enough as he occasionally calls distant family members to borrow money when that’s not enough money.
sadly he tricked me into living with him for ten months in Mexico as his youtube channel convinced me he was working on field propulsion. before i flew down there he said he was only a year away from building a prototype flying saucer and i wanted to be involved in the project. i dropped out of engineering school, sold a car of mine and other stuff so i could afford to fly to where he lived and work as a volunteer, hoping to become a starship engineer. i’ve been burned before so i made sure to bring enough money with me incase i needed to buy a ticket and fly back home as my “plan b”. after ten months i had to exercise plan b.
worst mistake of my life. i knew him for nearly two years over the phone but had no idea how medically insane he and his whole family was (aside from his mother and a daughter of his) until i lived with him.
he was so paranoid and delusional he and his family wouldnt even tell me what their last names were. i had to figure it out by overhearing conversations between them.
and while i was down there he seemed to be more interested in trying to get me to live think and feel the way that HE thinks i should be doing things. and when i refused to surrender my individuality to him he would insult me call me lazy, etc.
he was so crazy and paranoid that for months he was going on rants on how he feels the negative swinging waves of some guy in the neighborhood full of anger and was ranting on how this imaginary person is a potential threat to his family. this delusion continued to get worse the more he realized that he couldnt turn me into a clone of himself.
by month 7 i began to notice that he hasnt even began designing the so called prototype saucer, has no idea HOW to design it and all his so called education on field propulsion R&D was basically info that he learned from other scientist’s/engineer’s scientific papers and clues he learned from BEAM’s contact reports.
his rants about this imaginary guy in the neighborhood with negative swinging waves that he considers a threat to his family, he began to give more details in his rants and over time about this person and I realized that he was actually talking about me. he then started saying things like, “i’m not afraid to kill to protect my family” and that’s when i knew that in his delisional state he was thinking about killing me becaise for some reason he considered me a threat because he couldnt control me….so i got a plane ticket and got the hell out of there.
he was so paranoid and delusional that we went out for a walk one time and he saw a drone in the sky (the kind you can get at bestbuy) and said the CIA must be watching him lol.
sadly it was through him i was introduced to the BEAM material. to this day i bet he is still only a year away from building a prototype despite only showering once a month because he cant even pay his water bill.
i choose not to tell you his name or the name of his youtube channel because his so called aerospace project that is in reality a talk project has deteriorated so much that i choose to leave it all alone and let it fade into nothing because i fear of what this guy would do if he ever does get any real power. i guess you can say that his fake aerospace project is another BEAM cult like jedi’s. only difference is that he cant fool people into giving him any real funds.
now im not even interested in engineering anymore as i have higher priorities in life. one good thing that came out of my very creepy experience with him is that i discovered that Mexico is not the lawless wasteland that american propaganda cracks it up to be and the culture for the most part is still very family oriented. so im preparing to immigrate to mexico permanently hopefully to escape the coming 2 civil wars and to build a family.
just posting this here as a warning to folks like me looking at FIGU from the outside in that even though i dont know if the BEAM case is real, i explore it out of my own free will hoping to learn things to help me become a better human being. but beware, there are those who dont run the BEAM material through the proper scientific method.
just as there are skeptics who unlike me dont know how to be skeptical and have a belief system that the BEAM case is not real while exploring it, there’s another side to that proverial coin. there are those like the guy i mentioned who through their own non thinking will turn the BEAM case into a belief system and only bad things happen when you adopt a belief system.
keep and open mind, but also keep your guard up. don’t be so open minded thay your brain falls out of your head and find yourself knee deep in a belief system. that only leads to insanity. and watch out for those who make that mistake and stay clear of them.
be safe
salomé
Look how much you learned, you just think it was the worst mistake of your life, but you evolved ran it through the neutral-positive-equalized formula and saw it for what it was. You have been a blogger on this site for a long time, congratulations…
thanks. yeah my experience that i shared demonstrates why i never commit to anything without a plan B.
by the time i left mexico i lost 111 pounds (because i walked 4 klicks a day when i was down there) conquered my addiction to cigarettes, developed 3D modeling skills on blender and learned enough about field propulsion to do my own R&D if i ever decide to get back into pursuing an education in field propulsion. the fact that i am becoming a passport bro (someone who chooses to date outside the western world for the sake of making sure his future kids grow up in a stable family) was just the icing on the cake.
for example, my plan b with the BEAM case, since im committing myself to the spiritual teachings, is that if one day after years of exploring it and it turns out the ET contacts were false, i will have at the very least developed skills that will help me live a more peaceful life without using religion for that. the fact that i dont need to “believe” anything helps with that. 🙂
Don’t know how far you are along in the readings on the contact reports, but extraterrestrial life forms are also human beings. Not to mention that there are four groups of Earth-foreigners that are distant descendants of extraterrestrials, which also means that because they are distant descendants of ETs, this means that they are no longer ETs but Earthly neighbors of ours, similar to say a foreigner who visits our city which comes from France or Egypt.
Just by perceptions and working out the BEAM material in a manner that we use logic, intellect and rationality, whereby mistakes and misinterpretations is common, we can turn our misconceptions, fears, and imaginings into rational true to life thoughts. Where we can work with even a smidgen of information, if we develop our thinking cognitive capacity in such a manner that we can gauge everything in its proper place. A flower can smell like a flower and cannot possibly smell or taste like pizza or barbecue pork. Thus a human being is a human being, no matter if they have technology as flying saucers and beamships; physical features as blond hair with blazing red eyes, or as what we in olden times used to call titans.
When I was a child, I remembered that I became fascinated with white-folk since this person look so different from what I normally seen in my hometown, then I became fascinated with asian-folk because on TV I have seen TV shows where a Chinese mythological figure prance across thin branches as if like magic, then I became fascinated with black-folk because of their 70s style kind of presenting themselves, but I was never in a point where I turn these human beings into gods since I see them as human beings, though what I first encounter of them when I was a child was what I see in the television screen, I know they are just as human as I. So too I reckon are the extraterrestrial Plejaren and the four Earth-foreigners that are not ETs but Earthly neighbors as also similar to us, as in equal in value as human beings. So just as it is illogical to elevate and make gods of the white-folk, the asian-folk or the black-folk, so too then are those we have not seen yet but have an inkling that they too exists, because how can it not be otherwise? With a vast universe such as we have, it is simply inconceivable that we are the only life out there. And so, once we can recognise and acknowledge this reality for what it is, then does it really matter if we can see for ourselves ETs?
thanks im well aware of that information. When I use the term ETs im referring to any life forms that are on the same level of intelligence as us or higher but are largely unknown to the average person on earth.
and yes it really matters to me whether or not if i can see them.
when one is exposed to new information, regardless if that information is accurate or not accurate, it is not good to simply accept that information as fact or fiction without putting it through the scientific method first. Im not the most educated person out there so the scientific method for me is defined as:
step one: f around
step two: find out
if i lived underground all my life and never saw the sky, and someone came to me and said, “Hey Paul! I went above ground and saw the sky and the sky is pink!”…and another person made the same claim and said it was green and another came along and said it was purple and so forth…and then after years of this many have been proven to be frauds but there’s enough reports of people going above ground and seeing the sky, and there are pink sky camps and red sky camps amd purple sky camps and this goes on for decades, then finally someone comes along and says, “many of these people are liars because i REALLY went above ground and saw the sky is blue!” and there were attempts on this guy’s life because his testimony was discrediting them.
at that point, despite the fact that the sky is really blue, i personally wont know for sure until i go above ground myself and see for myself that the sky is blue.
check out the youtube video titled, “if god were a car” and it shows the same issue regarding religion: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qahB7mYhLxs&pp=ygURaWYgZ29kIHdlcmUgYSBjYXI%3D
with religion, i was presented with the same problem, grew up in a religious cult that claimed you can have a personal interaction with god and have a personal relationship with him. at the time i had no idea if god was real so i became an Christian as an experiment. this experiment lasted 11 years. i studied the crap out of the bible, did all the things the bible taught and after 11 years of trying to “walk with god” i concluded that it was fake because i never once had an interaction with this so called being called god. I mean, what better proof can you have that god is real than meeting him, right?
And now here i am presented with many different people in the world who claim to have met ETs, a broad term that i used to describe intelligent life forms that are from a non earth civilization.
And here is the BEAM case which is just one of many ET contact cases.
Yes anyone with more than a few braincells can conclude that it is mathematically impossible to be alone in the universe. It is arrogant to assume that life can exist on our pale blue dot and not any other place in the vast endless universe.
But when someone makes a claim that they are communicating with individuals that are not from our planet, regardless if these ETs are the same species as us or not, i have no idea if that is true unless i meet them myself, possibly fly around in their spaceship myself, etc.
Because if i were to “believe” that the BEAM case is real without seeing that it is real for myself, i might as well go back to being religious because that is exactly what religion is: accepting information as fact by faith and not putting it to the test.
and what better standard of proof than to actually meet the ETs (folk that aint from around here) myself?
now i have no way of meeting them. however there are spiritual teachings in the form of books that i can study and experiment with. after quite some time experimenting with the spiritual teachings, i will be able to find out for myself if they are good teachings worth following.
so yes, seeing for myself is very important because that’s the difference between BELIEVING and KNOWING.
i KNOW that gravity is real. cuz all i gotta do is jump up in the air and then EXPERIENCE gravity pulling me back down. 🙂
oh and Michale Horn, if you are reading this and you see something wrong with how i am attempting to apply the scientific method to the BEAM case, please let me know cuz im doing the best i can to keep an open mind on one hand while on the other hand not accidentally turning the BEAM case into another belief system. The only way i know how to apply the scientific method to this subject is reading the CRs, looking at the photographic evidence, paying attention to the prophecies and predictions, and learning and attempting to follow the spiritual teachings in order to “see what happens”. 🙂
Who is asking you to, “believe that the BEAM case is real without seeing that it is real” other than yourself and people who don’t have the intelligence to read and understand the validity and significance – and the Plejaren’s selection – of the evidence that’s actually there, and even when and if that’s not in the style of your particular liking or need to have that “believed” as the religious do with their stupid fairy tales, cult rituals, biochemical highs and zero evidence.
Eusebio was asking me “does it really matter if we can see for ourselves ETS?”
I was simply responding to that. I’m not sure if that even qualifies as someone asking me to believe that the BEAM case is real without seeing that it is real. I saw that as just a very good question and i was responding to that.
Sorry if i was giving the impression that folks here were trying to pressure me into ‘believing’ anything. I also am not asking myself to believe but i can see how/why i would give that impression so sorry about any misunderstanding on that subject.
if it helps what im saying have more context, i am an individual who is 38 years old and i have spent the majority of my life being sucked into one belief system after another and now that im free of any belief system that im aware of, im in the process of learning how to live and function without utilizing a belief system. doing so i begin to notice how my very vocabulary is structured around the lingo of belief systems.
living/functioning in the absense of belief systems is something im still getting used to.
salomé
Here’s what P.S.I. have just written on the community tab of their YouTube channel –
https://www.youtube.com/@PeaceSeekingIntelligence/community
Peace Seeking Intelligence
9 hours ago
“Billy Meier, when are you going to reveal that your images of the Plejaren Federation are fake, racist, Nazi, white-supremacist promoting cult trap and in reality they look nothing like that? When are you going to reveal that “Ptaah,” “Quetzal,” “Semjase,” aren’t even their real names?”
When exposed for their cultic behaviour they accuse Billy of cultic behaviour… Truly delusional.
Here’s the screenshot from their community tab…
This whole thing, with the start up of PSI, the infiltration of Jedi into the group, and the current state that the ramifications of all this have had on FIGU were a part of these negative energies that have effected Billy as of late. Maybe Jedi is somehow unknowingly/knowingly being influenced by these negative energies to cause disinformation and chaos within the FIGU Community and lead others astray. Maybe he is getting these lies from some other source? He has messed up big time a few years back and was already given a chance for redemption. The group has already forgiven him once already. I don’t think he has learned one thing from his past mistakes. Sad but you would think one would mature, learn and grow up instead of letting your negative ego take over once again.
wow that is not very peaceful for someone claiming to be peaceful lol
be careful everybody! dont let this turn into a war of “FIGU vs PSI”.
If there’s anything that i learned from america’s endless wars is that war never begets peace…it only begets more wars.
it will be very easy to fall into a “us versus them” line of thinking and that never leads to anywhere good.
That’s very good advice.
I very much agree with your advice. This is why I am trying to understand what the possibilities may be behind all this. The negative inputs may be the intent to take away from the message and cause chaos. We must all be weary of the cause and effect that may impact us all if we do not act in a positive neutral manner.
Mr. OverReach has to prove as in provide evidence etc. about Billy’s recollection of contacts that he types about with his one hand. Unless of course he is suggesting he was there during the contacts so I’d like to see the evidence your honor. The burden of proof is in his bucket not Meier’s. So until that comes up, don’t bother wasting time on him.
Oh no! I own this book and I’ve enjoyed reading it so far. I haven’t finished it, but now I don’t know if I should continue. What a shame!
I remember watching videos of this guy along with Michael about the Teaching of the Creation energy years ago, pre-pandemic times. Then all of the sudden he disappeared and created his PSI thing, which I found very suspicious. It gave me bad vibes and I didn’t follow him whatsoever. I hope he learns his lesson.
I never trusted him from day one… it was always about him. When it all kicked off a few years back with PSI I remember writing on this blog that he was riding on Billy’s coattails and I wasn’t far wrong. I’m just glad that he has been exposed… hopefully this time, it’s well and truly nipped in the bud and no lasting damage has been done. Whether he learns from this is quite frankly debatable. His ego and his megalomania won’t allow him to see his own errors especially when he thinks he’s in the right. As for the rest of us who try our best to follow the teachings diligently and without falsification, it’s a wake-up call to be on guard as Billy said new sects and cults will spring up like mushrooms so we need to stay vigilant and preserve the true truth as Billy and the P’s intended.
Oh my googins, I just went looking for this guy Jedi Roach on Facebook and as of 20 hrs ago he is going after Billy with all kinds of angry slurrs..
We have all been bamboozled! I bought this book for my wife, what a shame but glad this has been exposed. Jedi is sick in his mind. What a fraud!
Here’s the link to where Jedi is losing it over what’s happening here..
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063656917889
Amazing what comes flooding out from the depths when control is lost isn’t it?
The thing is, his/their ferocious hatred plastered all over these forums will prove to anyone looking in that everything his group advertised is a sham and its people deranged with hatred, revenge and narcissism.
I should think many who believed him before will have seen the true colours emerge, but also there may be people wondering “who is Billy Meier and FIGU?” and visit where they ordinarily wouldn’t have done before only to realise what the score truly is.
He’ll keep chomping at the fence post but eventually he’ll knaw through enough that it’ll fall down onto his own head and hopefully knock some sense into him.
His balloon is popped and it’s flying around the ceiling sounding like a burrito f@rt.
Sad isn’t it?
A cornered animal will lash out why would Jedi be any different? Hopefully, he comes to his senses, calms down and shows some self-reflection because all he is doing is hurting himself.
He’s had his eye on the prize too long. I don’t think he will come to his senses, with so much ego invested. More likely he will just hit the gas harder and crash. It’s a form of mania.
Yup, I think he will crash too. The carefully crafted world that he has fostered and built up is presently collapsing around him exposing who he really is to everyone which he is incapable of dealing with hence his vitriol.
Yeah, that’s pretty accurate he can’t deal with this and if all this is inaccurate, why wouldn’t he seek council with Billy instead of coming apart like a wet pinata ?
Back when michael was first working with jedaiah (who also at the time was a self professed IHWH)…I already knew. And it was mentioned by myself to michael his (jedaiah Ramnarine) PSI at its BEGINNING, as seeming sectarian and to not trust him it seemed. As customary and usual it qas quickly brashed as diregard. Now…all the sudden
Do you remember the random un-named moderator that would have snippy comments for folks on Mike’s blog that seemed over the top because no one played the same level of 4D chess as they were on? Pretty sure that was the master overreacher since it disappeared around the time he decided to go his own way turning around and making it appear as if he made the decision first. I find similarities when Mike does the group interviewers with those other UFO experiencers, etc. where they seem to want to avoid the obvious down to Earth nature of Mike reminding them of their usually North American mannerisms are not universal meal ticket to becoming the next UFO Pope. Hence, trying to levitate oneself over others looks exactly like … putting oneself over the back of others regardless of whatever nice sounding mantra is being espoused or flights of fancy being achieved. Work shy individuals are usually too ensconced to hear themselves as they’re usually busying themselves with self promotion, etc. all hallmarks of grifting much like a Mr. Graham Hancock awarded air time with Mr. Rogan. Clown show economics.
Hi Luis, it was a little bit different than you are portraying it. I don’t give unlimited trust to people, but I do something that I heard someone mention many years ago.
When asked if he trusted people, this person’s comment was that he trusts them to be… themselves. It can take time to find out what the overriding intentions, character, nature, etc., of an individual are.
You may remember that he ingratiated himself into the situation by assisting me with videos. As is already probably well known, I accidentally discovered that he was stealing money, I confronted him, he finally admitted it, returned the money, and that was the end of that situation. It was also the end of any trust he had earned.
But I simply am not capable of holding grudges against people, as was the case when I was younger. I did one final video conversation/interview with him and ended up being the interviewer, asking important questions that people like you and others had posed. As far as I am concerned, it was an hour-log, audio-visual enactment of “The Emperor Has No Clothes”.
People are not always as they seem, or want to be seen. After I had posted the video and left it up for a while, I took it down (as I said, I thought I disposed of it completely but apparently didn’t) and I didn’t feel that it was my job to run around and try to further expose him, etc.
Like other people, I too assumed he had been thoroughly vetted by FIGU for the translation work, etc.
I’m afraid I don’t really know what to say to this… He now uses a purported transmission from Arahat Athersata to falsely discredit Billy. Absolutely shameful behaviour.
Nokodemion, the FALSE PROPHET, Billy Meier, the FRAUD & FIGU, the INSIDIOUS CULT
https://www.nokodemionthefalseprophet.com/
It’s regrettable that there are people who are very severely damaged in consciousness, and filled with delusions. This is greatly compounded when they also are of bad character, profit-motivated, envious, raised in a fundamentalist religious, or other abusive environment, etc.
It’s been stated in this discussion a number of times also that we are seeing the beginning manifestations of the fulfillment of the law of cause and effect, i.e. the proverbial pendulum coming back to the person who sent it out. So it’s to be expected that they will act in extreme desperation in their attempts to avoid and deflect the inevitable consequences of their especially odious behavior. One way that this predictively manifests, is in increasingly wild and extreme – but futile – attempts to harm and destroy the innocent object of their envy and hatred.
There are obviously deep, complex influences at play here and put on public display by the person who is acting out all of these expressions of their damaged consciousness. Perhaps, if the afflicted person still retains the decency and enough wisdom to recognize their self-inflicted plight, they may reach out to get qualified professional assistance, and commit to the arduous and time intensive process of halting their devolution and degeneration, so they return to their good human nature and improve their consciousness, etc.
Agreed. What has been done can’t be undone. I am just concerned that he has gone so far as to try to retain what he is in the process of losing and that sometimes you just can’t come back from that. Hard times are ahead for him, which I don’t think he has even considered. I hope his power trip was worth it.
Boy the AA meeting this came from should not have skipped on McDonald’s because it sounds whiny and complains too much which usually happens on an empty stomach. Here is one gem that came out for all to see in the above link.
“106. When you look at a vortex or a black hole, you see [sic] a singularity at the center.”
The man can see through black holes folks!
PSI on Facebook posted on Billy yesterday and wrote that Billy’s son had claimed his father had falsified reports. I think this is Methusalem who had a long Utube video criticizing his father. It went on so long I nearly turned to stone from boredom and cut it off but really it was incredibly myopic and self focused.
I could wrap my criticisms of my parents up inside a minute or two and have no hard feelings they provided for us very well. Could life have been this bad for Billy’s son? I was shocked that he would have this kind of a grudge and why was he so obsessively critical?