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Saturday, April 27, 2024

The Billy Meier UFO contacts singularly authentic ongoing for 80 years the key to our future survival

Cause and Effect?

If the information and illustration is accurate here, is it too simplistic to suggest that a little bit of…cause and effect is on display?

Specifically, since the U.S. was the country that dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, causing terrible immediate damage, death and destruction, as well as immeasurable long term, worldwide damage, genetic mutations, etc.,*…could we be seeing the “favor being returned” in the form of the radiation from Fukushima?

Just asking, of course.

 

*As Billy Meier foretold in number 56., from 1958, and of course more recently regarding the still unrevealed magnitude of the Fukushima disaster.

Please also sign and forward this petition against the death penalty and torture. It’s in German but you can translate it here.

 

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Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Yes, of course, the Law of Cause and Effect is universal, eternal, and cannot be mitigated or abrogated.

Chris L.

I think you are absolutely right. Let’s not forget also that GE, and presumably the US govt, was deeply involved with the nuclear power developments in Japan to begin with after the war. There are those here in Japan who wonder whether Japan was set up as the nuclear power guinea-pig to see how it would go and that they could help deal with any problems arising from it rather than the US (not that the US didn’t go ahead with nuclear power itself). If so, that’s one mighty big “OOPS!” cause and effect, and a literal nuclear spit in the wind.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

To further explain the Law of Cause and Effect from a spiritual perspective I will define exactly what a cause is. A cause is composed of three parts: first, a logical and consistent thought process, second, certain and specific actions, third, a good or evil component. Each cause will produce certain effects, which in turn produce more causes. Therefore, if you do good, more good is automatically produced and if you do evil, more evil is produced.

Jim Deardorff

Does cause always precede effect?

Consider Meier’s time travel trip in 1953 with Asket to the 13th century when they took Jitschi and his electrical equipment along with them. There in France they paid a visit to Rabbi Jechiel, with whom Jitschi left a battery, some wire, an electric lamp, and the knowhow to connect it up and electrify his doorknob at will. The rabbi’s resulting fame as a wizard carried forward in time and was discussed by Eliphas Levi in his book _The History of Magic_ (Paris, 1860, pp. 190-191). This book was still in public libraries in the 20th century when they embarked on their trip in 1953. So, did the effect (contents in the book) precede the cause (time travel trip)?

Once they were back in the 13th century, however, from the viewpoint of everyone else on earth then, the future had not yet happened. The actions that initiated the rabbi’s fame with respect to the magic lamp and doorknob electrifier long preceded the book. Cause and effect as usual. But from our viewpoint, the rabbi’s fame that initiated the book was already known in 1953 – his fame preceded their time-travel trip that caused it. (If he hadn’t been famous long afterwards, Asket would have had no reason to select Jechiel as the person she would introduce Meier & Jitschi to).

So, did Asket know in 1953 that she had better take them back in time to provide the cause for the effect that had already happened? She had better do that or else what would happen?

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Hi Jim,

Time travel is always a very interesting subject, especially when it comes to cause and effect, but to me, this account is still cause and effect.

Have a great day.

Duke

Very good questions to ask Jim! Though, I honestly have no real solid understanding of time travel as you raise up from the Meier material.

Also, what do you think the Sign of Jonah represents in the Talmud Jmmanuel?

Jim Deardorff

Duke,

Surely it represents a UFO (or USO) that took Jonah in for three days and nights, then returned him. Perhaps a Plejaren craft? a

Damian Jones

Im sorry, but I just dont believe in cause and effect, i’ve seen more often than not incorrect behaviour and actions being rewarded.
If cause and effect were valid the peace loving people of America would fly off to their off shore homes when it hits the fan, while the rich and powerfull would taste their own bitterness , not the other way around.
Might is right, at least for the next 800 years.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

The Ps and Billy teach The Law of Cause and Effect, so you can argue with them if you would like.

gchamp

so you’re telling me that all the world wars that US involved itself in didn’t create any of the enemies we have today? You’ll probably want to re-read the laws of cause and effect because your definition doesn’t make sense. Or how about a simpler way of understanding, for every action there is a reaction.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Hi Damian,

Your viewpoint is short-sighted. Obviously, some effects come back sooner than others. Test it in your own life.

Have a great day.

Lotus Halter

Hi Damian,

Cause and effect exists whether you believe in it or not. Just as our early civilization didn’t ‘believe’ the earth was round or that there was such a thing as gravity. Laws of the universe are there whether we ‘believe’ in them or not. Your thoughts about cause and effect is a cause in itself.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

The most certain and universal of all scientific and spiritual principles is that of causality, or the law of cause and effect. The implications of this principle have been fought vigorously in the theological and philosophical disciplines, but there is no question of its universal acceptance in the world of experimental science, as well as in ordinary spiritual experience.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

From FIGU Bulletin 046.

“When a prophecy is made, the significance of its representation is that the effect will be shown which will arise out of a negative cause, if not at once will be acted in different or positive way because as a rule, the negative will be laid out to the human being that he/she develops out of causes. This therefore, that the human being will think about the evil he/she is just about to create.

Therefore, the consequences i.e., the negative effects of his/ her actions will be pointed out in a prophetic manner, so that the human being can begin to act reasonably and avoid evil consequences, i.e. negative effects and make something good and positive out of his thoughts, feelings and actions.

Therefore, it depends on human beings themselves if a prophecy does fulfil itself or not. That is true in respect to a Third World War, for the prophecies do not say that a Third World War will be unavoidable, but refer to the possibility of such a war if human beings will not change and stop their political and war-like and religious insane behaviour and do not make a beginning to change toward the positive in all areas. So it is solely up to human beings themselves if the prophecy fulfils itself or not. And that is correct in the case of the Third World War which in fact does not have to happen if human beings finally will be reasonable and bring the powerful and mighty to their senses, who are in fact all those stupid, power-hungry, greedy for profit, self-complacent, greedy, hateful, idiotic, and are crazy enough to launch wars and incite those of the people who are stupid and idiotic and will scream pro and hurray and take up arms to kill innocent human beings.”

Sarah

I would hope nobody would argue against cause and effect. If you toss a ball in the air, the ball comes down. This is enough proof that it’s in play.

So what do you think is going to happen with Nagasaki? Hurry, make apologies immediately. Its a bit like putting a safety trampoline in the bottom of an acting stage.

Billy is right, America just expects the issue to just float.

Sarah

Also petition against death penalty!? Your the best.

Sarah

Ok signed it, I’d like to know if it doesn’t go through so I can sign it. I’m probably one of the few against it, because I consider it cruel and unusual.

Damian Jones

Thanks for the replies, I didnt say that cause and effect definitely doesnt exist, i’m just not convinced yet and I am just trying to work it out. Its just that i’m trying to reconcile what Billy had to say about everyone being born with a clean slate, no karma, no burdens from previous lives, which would mean that the effect would have to happen in the current life that the cause originated from?
Or am I reading it to literally?
Thank you all.

Sarah

Your the not the only one who has questions about it. Though I also think there is a danger is accepting anything literally. (You can see the Baptists and Evangelicals as an example.)

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Hi Damian,

You said,”I’m sorry, but I just dont believe in cause and effect…”, so nice backtrack. My advice – don’t be a skeptic, that’s unintelligent and a mental block, instead keep an open mind, read, study and learn. Learn to answer your own questions.

Good luck.

Damian Jones

What backtrack are you talking about? By not believing in anything and having to think for yourself I am doing the exact opposite of having a closed mind, not just accepting Billys teaching and woofing it down, like the religious.
Obviously cause and effect can be observed from the most simple things like someone mentioned earlier, throwing a ball into the air, eating too much food and getting fat etc.What i’m talking about is the more complex ethical actions from what i’ve seen in my own life, negative people getting away with murder, theft,corruption,bullying etc, then dying peacfully in thier sleep at a ripe old surrounded by wealth and loving family.Do I have to give examples to you? Surely not, you being a professional astrologist and all (as opposed to the shonky amateur astrologists that are out there).
Peace be with you.

Tony Vasquez - Professional Astrologer

Hi Damian,

First, the law of cause and effect is not just Billy’s teaching, many wise men and women have taught it throughout the Ages. And no one is asking you to accept anything religiously.

Second, in my career, and I have had 1000’s of clients, I’ve never seen anyone “get away”, with wrong doings. There’s always a payback/effect of some kind or another, whether it’s mental, emotional, or physical.

Third, I’m glad to hear that you have an open mind, that’s great.

Damian Jones

Fair enough Tony, after giving it more thought, i’m probably only looking at it superficially, and am probably just in a negative mood today.
One last thing though-you do know what Billy and the Ps have said about earth astrology, dont you?