Since my previous blog also became a lightening rod for opposing views on astrology, I offer this one for the discussion of the topic. I have titled it Terrestrial Astrology: Science or Superstition? since the issue includes the idea that the astrology that the Plejaren are said to practice is far different, more advanced and accurate than our terrestrial version.
Hopefully some light can be shed that will be of value to all concerned.
UPDATE on earthquakes:
Hi Michael,
I see that someone increased the blog display capacity of this software. That is great but I would like to see the following improvement:
* Instead of increasing blog display capacity, perhaps a PAGE FORWARD/BACK button would be a better long term solution. As blogs get bigger, the bandwidth to load the entire blog would increase, thereby increasing the chance some people with poorer internet connection cannot display it properly (someone with slower speed, living in the woods perhaps).
* Is there a way to be notified of a new post on a blog? The way this blog is structured (called nesting format) it does not lend itself to easily viewing responses that are to a previously buried post, especially being this long. I took the time to read the entire blog. If there is a way to be notified of new posts, or a way to “flatted” the blog by posting date on demand, then it would be easy to read new posts.
Just $0.02 from a technician…
Hi ROb,
I’ve forwarded your request to my technificational department. Hopefully those changes can be made, I’ll let you know as soon as I do. Thanks.
They’re great changes Mike from my perspective. Hopefully this will reduce the bandwidth costs on your end and saves on data transmissions. It reduces my load time on my end.
🙂
We have Nathanael Mallow to thank for that! And I do, thanks, Nate.
Rob,
You are incorrect. I never used the word “perfection”, nor implied that. I think you need to read a little slower.
The form of astrology that I practice is VERY accurate. I have proved that to myself for 34 years, and to many other people as well. I do not lie. If you can afford it, have a reading, I’ll prove it to you also. I don’t do many free readings. A reading takes 3 hours to do, and most people do not appreciate free ones.
Let me make this VERY clear, I do not feel I have to prove anything to anyone. As I said, I’ll let my readings and my predictions speak the loudest.
One of my predictions has already come true – the RECORD cold temperatures in the USA. Most of the others will too, if not all of them.
Let me also make THIS very clear – I don’t care what ANYONE thinks or says about my astrological work that’s negative or disagreeable. People can be skeptical and doubtful all they want. That would not affect me in the least. I ALWAYS do things my way, based on my judgment and experience.
As far as the people on the blog, none of them are professional astrologers, or have studied the science to any significant degree, if at all. Therefore, they can’t possibly have a legitimate opinion of it. All they can do, is repeat what others have said about it, like parrots. That isn’t the correct way to handle it.
Michael’s suggestion of me teaching an astrology class on this thread, is a good idea, IF people REALLY want to know the truth about this science. I see no other way of handling it.
Thank you.
Tony,
I do encourage you to teach a class but I think you should create a site/blog, etc., where you can do that. In that way all who may be interested can participate with you and you can even keep it private, etc.
Michael,
Yes, of course, I have plans for that. You’re right, no one on this blog has indicated any interest in participating in an astrology class taught by me. I didn’t think they would.
Thanks.
I have an interest but not one that would develop into making a career out of it.
For example, I am interested in knowing how could PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY pin point names of people who will die and of what cause. Did you have to plug in the persons data? But then that seems unthinkable to try to pin down people for even a specific “years” consideration. The natural disaster part is a bit more relatable, since you must be tying astro info specifically to planet Earth and even locations. It does boggle the mind, none the less.
However, I can relate to the natal chart (and the derived personality traits) from my study of both the BEAM and Cayce materials.
My apologies Tony. It probably did have something to do with reading the long blog quickly and my brain translated your use of “accurate” to be the same as “perfection.” I won’t debate the technicalities of word definitions like Dyson did but will say that to me, mathematically they are basically the same. Also, I believe this is the first time you prefixed “accurate” with the adverb “very” so it does change the meaning a little. “Very accurate” is not the same as “accurate.” Perhaps the science of astrology is not entirely mathematical so that would be an inappropriate, or “inaccurate,” statement for me to make.
I only wish that more people practice the core teaching of BEAM when engaging fellow persons, pro-/against BEAM or not — things could go along more peacefully without the need to test each others egos.
As far as your offer to do a chart for me, please email me the details via the information from MH. I do not wish to spend a lot of money for an experiment – if I remember correctly it was less than $30 per chart type with Cayce’s org. A natal chart alone should suffice. Speaking of which, I was waiting for one of your other predictions to come true before actually considering this. But, since you mention it now, and I can see it as a service for the BEAM community in helping to understand astrology and its usefulness due to that I happen to have already ordered a chart a few years back from a well-known organization to make technical comparison to, it may do both of us good to have me compare and comment on your version of it, instead of someone who has never ordered one before. Keep in mind I also do not have an exact birth time but a window of two hours, so this is the additional criteria I would need you to consider before I take on your offer:
* Non-time corrected chart/reading: Without correction to my birthtime and take it as I had given to the Cayce org, but using your NORMAL METHOD as you would anyone coming to you with a time they say is what was recorded. This way I have a basis of comparison of two charts based on the exact same information.
* Optimal corrected accuracy chart/reading as you would do with anyone else who would have told you the same, that exact time is missing. This is for obvious reason to prove yours is really the VERY ACCURATE way, as you claim.
Due to the purpose of my possible participation, I have to withheld answers to anything else you ask of me personally.
We also need to be very clear what everyone can expect from this “experiment”:
On your end, you will need to lay down the numbers, even if it is approximate. For example, % of expected match in each case. In the case of Cayce’s, you said at best 66% due to the constellation variance. What about the birthtime window variance correction? What if someone had exact minute (but then there is the question of if the doctor was took 30 seconds or 3 minutes vs up to two hours after the head exited/first breath was taken?
On my end, I will not be divulging details about myself in public. I will only be able to say, from my technically-oriented brain, the number of hits/non-hits on both charts to see how much improved yours is. Unfortunately someone will have to take my word for it in terms of my personality description — but rest assured the only interest in this for me is validation for myself and passing on the numerical statistics for everyone’s perusal.
Let me know what you think, Tony.
Hi Rob,
Thank you for your interest.
Without an approximate birth time (within 15 minutes) it would take 2-3 months to correct the time, and give you a good life reading. The movements of the Heavenly bodies would have to be observed and recorded, and the effects of their movements through your natal chart in your life observed. This can all be done, of course, I have done it many times. Any astrologer, who would give you a reading, without at least a very close birth time, is fraudulent.
NOTE: I’m taking the liberty to not post Tony’s rates, etc., and instead suggest that anyone business dealings between people, i.e. where charges for services and products are to be discussed, be done privately between them.
This way we don’t get into those details and lose the intention of the blog, topics, etc. However, if people want to connect with each other for such purposes and make contact through the blog of course that’s fine.
Perhaps at some point a blog that serves to connect people with goods and services could be created for just such a purpose, if people think it would be helpful. We do need to cooperate with, and contribute to each other in practical terms, especially now and as situations and conditions in the future make it all the more necessary. I’m open to feedback about this.
Rob,
I charge 1/4 of what most good astrologers charge for a natal chart reading, and they don’t have the correct astrology. My readings come with a satisfaction money back guarantee. In 34 years, I have never had anyone ask for their money back.
Rob,
Email me, if you would like all of the details concerning how I draw up my charts, do readings, and make predictions. If you live in the US, we could discuss everything over the phone. There is a lot.
Rob, did you ever lived in Chino Hills?
Dear Tony: Hope you are well. My name is Ben Lui. I am a strong believer of your astrological work. May I email you or write to you? My email is benlui555@yahoo.com. I just want to let you know that you are sharing good information. It is up to others to listen but don’t let them disappoint you with your work and teachings.
Best Regards,
Ben Lui
626-617-8000
p.s. Would love to speak with you and meet you in person if possible
Okay Tony, again, with Obama’s birth certificate in question, how or what did u use as a reference to do a reading? You had stated that being off a minute can change a reading, so how did u start? Just wondering how this stuff works. Thanks in advance
So I probably know more about astrophysics (my knowledge would fit on a pin head)than I do about astrology, but if I understood what I have read on Michael’s blog over the past several months by various contributors, I could be a real challenge. I’m a Leo, my name was changed at birth from Timothy to Allen and just this could mean that I am a life long pathological liar, and maybe a direct descendant of Arus, Kamigol, or Jehav, or maybe share the same spirit of one of these nefarious ones. Now I know that I have made many a poor decision in my life, but I also know how far away from those times I have come, much of it thanks to the spirit teachings and much of it due to my own personal changes for the better. Am I doomed for eternity, or can there be hope for my future incarnations? Just wonder what you all think, you too Tony Vasquez- Professional Astrologer, as I find your posts and predictions rather intriguing.
Hi Allen,
If you want to get in contact with me personally for any explanations/information, please let me know, contact me at tv723astro@gmail.com
Thank you.
FOUR OF MY 2014 PREDICTIONS HAVE COME TRUE. (I know some people will disagree with me about this. They will be skeptical, doubtful, and argumentative, but I don’t care about that type of nonsense and incorrect bad attitude. If you are one of those, stay away from me. Don’t waste your time and energy incorrectly criticizing me. If you do, I will harshly put you in your place. I am open to intelligent polite discussion about anything that I write. Everything I have written below can be verified online, and is valid. My 2014 predictions are posted on this astrology blog.)
1. RECORD COLD TEMPERATURES IN THE USA. (easily verified online)
2. AMERICAN AIRLINER CRASHES, 100’S DEAD, WORLD NEWS.(Some might consider this a bit of a stretch, but the Malaysia flight 370 was a Boeing 777 made in the USA. When I looked at the charts of the USA, I saw an American airliner crashing, with many dead, and making world news. Flight 370 is probably what I saw, but there could be another USA airliner crash coming. Note – My predictions are based on my 35 years of experience reading and interpreting astrological charts. They are not like the predictions of the Plejaren, which are very specific and detail accurate because of time travel, or “views into the future” technology.)
3. SWARM OF QUAKES BETWEEN 3.5 and 5.0 HITTING LA BEFORE AN 8.5 – 9.0.(This has happened, and will continue to happen, until the mega-quake hits in the July-Sept time frame. If I had to pick a more specific time, I would say July 1 – July 7.)
4. MAJOR EARTHQUAKE IN CHILE. (Even though there were not many deaths, nor much property damage, at 8.2, it did fulfill the prediction of a major quake hitting Chile. This could be the one I saw, or one more could be coming in 2014, even larger.)
So far there have been 3 quakes between 3.5 and 4.2 in Los Angeles since this prediction.
3.8 on 5/30
4.2 on 6/1
3.5 on 6/18
Im a skeptic of predictions but so far the prediction is accurate.
Because you are “open to intelligent polite discussion about anything that [you] write” I offer the following. (Although, considering the preceding context of that statement, I’m not sure you actually meant you were open to discuss what you have written…perhaps only with those who uncritically accept your claims? Surely, as a professional, you can’t mean this?) In any case, please allow me to play the devils advocate with these alleged realized predictions:
1. Despite making this prediction after January, where most of the record cold was, February still produced an above average record number of cold temperatures. This is a hit.
2. Here, the problem is that there is a plane crash with triple digit causalities almost every single year (only two years in the last fifty without). The average seems to be 3 or 4 such accidents per year. http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm
Thus your qualifier “American” was important; without it the prediction is virtually an irrelevant can’t-miss. Nor does the fact that the plane was made in America help you much, as most all planes in use are made here. Moreover we don’t refer to a craft that is owned and operated by a foreign airline as an “American airliner”–indeed, like this headline suggests, the downed craft was not an “American airliner”:
“Malaysia Airliner Communications Shut Down Separately, US Officials Say” http://abcnews.go.com/International/malaysia-airliner-pinging-indication-crashed-indian-ocean/story?id=22894802
This prediction may well come true. It hasn’t yet.
3. There have been two of these, or more? I don’t know. I don’t know if its a “swarm” yet (but it may be darn close!). It may become that, and indeed, if the big one hits, it will be an impressive prediction. But it hasn’t happened yet.
4. It was a massive tremor. And when you retrodict your prediction(ie, lie) to read “major quake hitting Chile” it does seem a hit. But the prediction was “Major Earthquake Catastrophe”–five deaths (several of these from heart attack) and little property damage is not what we normally think of as a “catastrophe.” On the other hand, I am more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt–the prediction in its entirety as given was “Major Earthquake Catastrophes in the following countries: Chile, Japan, Indonesia, Philippines, and China” –should large quakes occur in these places, with some measure of destructiveness in at least a couple of them, the recent Chile quake coupled with these hypothetical other quakes would surely be sufficient to round out the prediction, to make it a hit. But to say your prediction, as reproduced above, has come true simply because of the recent, relatively non-destructive (though large) quake (in one of the most seismically active countries on Earth), is a little misleading to say the least… The prediction may well yet come true. It hasn’t yet.
In your understandable enthusiasm to validate your profession and ability, do you think you have perhaps jumped the gun a little? Do you not think you should perhaps wait to claim your predictions have come true… until they actually come true?
You’re totally incorrect. You demonstrate very little intelligence, or logic, and you’re not worth my time. I will ignore any further nonsense from you. Say whatever, I will not reply to you.
Tony, before anyone else does, allow me to point out the non-responsive, non-specific and denigrating nature of your reply. As someone who has years and years of experience in presenting, and defending, what are called “extraordinary claims”, I encourage you to take the challenges seriously enough, and show enough respect for your challengers, to make your case, including answering the challenges with specific evidence to the contrary.
I respectfully disagree. I will not waste my time with skeptics. Besides, I know that person is either Andy, or someone associated with him.
In real life we don’t always get to choose who challenges us and we don’t get to dismiss their challenges out of hand because we don’t like what they’re pointing out.
To continue to do that will only tightly marginalize you, your claims, credibility, etc.
When you answer challenges form one person or another you are often answering the questions that many people have. I can’t help any more than to point out the weakness in this method that I perceive. In order to improve we have to be accountable and able to back up our claims. If Billy posed the same challenges to you…would you respond as you have to people here? Why and/or why not?
As I said, I will not waste my time with ANY skeptic. That’s 35 years of experience talking. I recognize skeptics very quickly and very accurately. Of course, you can handle them any way that pleases you. That is my decision. It will not change. Skepticism, as I have also said, is a mental illness. I choose not to attempt to cure it, except in very rare cases, and certainly not online. Thank you.
I may have missed something but I don’t see the comment in question as being “skepticism”, I see it as being a legitimate challenge, one that it would benefit you to address respectfully and not in a high-handed, dismissive manner. It’s very good practice, and it;s necessary if one is to be taken seriously and respected.
Ask yourself what the loss is if you answer the points raised – about your points.
Ok Michael, we disagree on this one. I will not repeat myself. I think from now on, I’ll simply ignore some people.
Up to you. Time will tell if you’re both right and effective, only one, or…neither.
Michael,
You have only known me for a short time. I have been very effective through the years. Making predictions using astrology is the most difficult usage of the great science, and I’m better than most at doing it. I have many clients and students who are very pleased with my astrological work. Thank you.
Tony, the beauty of factual information is that it’s impersonal. Records speak for themselves. This is actually a great opportunity to strengthen those areas in which you may not be strong. For instance, you haven’t engaged in any known public debate, presentations, etc., so this may be a first step. And it isn’t the same as one on one conversations, although the same questions can be asked in either format.
I encourage you to assess the opportunity objectively and…stretch your comfort zone, as they say.
Tony, I agree with you. Things happen accordingly to the astrology. However, I believe that astrology predictions may change according to our human activities. Whether good actions or bad. If I am wrong correct me.
Best Regards,
Ben
Hi Michael,
I did want to reply to your last reply. Between 1990 and 2000 I was on many radio shows and TV shows in Florida and Texas explaining the correct astrology. I also did many public lectures in book stores and other venues. I ran into many skeptics, skeptical because of religious nonsense, scientific error, and bad “common” astrology influences. I learned very well that skeptics are a huge waste of my time. Sure, I encountered a few good clients, and a few good students, but it was not worth the trouble at all.
Today, I prefer to work with only those people who are not skeptical at all, only open-minded intelligent polite people. For the last 14 years that has worked out great for me. I have many good clients around the world, and some very good students as well.
As I said, from now on, when someone acts skeptical on this blog towards me and my work, I will just ignore them. They will go away.
There’s an old saying, “That was then, this is now.” And, again, I want to point out to you that people who ask legitimate questions aren’t necessarily “skeptics”. They may in fact be…critical thinkers.
Judging from the language of some of those who’ve questioned you, I’d say that they’re respectful and deserving of respectful answers.
How much respect would we have for Meier if he said, “I’ve been studying – and teaching – the spiritual spiritual teaching for, oh, millions upon millions of years. But you’re not intelligent enough to understand any of it. So I won’t bother to take the time to teach or explain anything to you. Either take my word for it, or you’re just ignorant, incorrect skeptics.”?
Tony, you’re also on the mailing list to which I’ve made a dozen responses in a few days to challenges by “skeptics” in the UFO community regarding Meier’s evidence, as well predictions, etc. While I’ve lost my patience with a number of them, I’ve given very detailed information in response tot their questions…I didn’t just call them names..
And the result is that now some of them are finally “getting” the Meier case.
P.S. More astro-info on earthquake predicitons:
http://www.globalweatheroscillations.com/#!california-earthquake-prediction-/cjwq
Hi Michael,
I think you have much more time on your hands to deal with skeptical people than me. I read some of that discussion on those emails. WOW! What a hard job it is to deal with such illogical people! Congratulations, if you have convinced a few of them of the Meier material.
That earthquake data was interesting. I had not seen it. Thanks for sending it.
My prediction is still an 8.5 – 9.0 in LA July 1 – Sept 30, 2014, with July 1 – July 7 the most likely time.
The two most dangerous days for the LA mega-quake are July 6th, and Sept. 14th, 2014. LA will be destroyed. The astrology is the worst/best that I have ever seen for earthquakes to hit. Expect major quakes in 5 or 6 countries in 2014.
Hi Tony,
Please share at least enough of the basics of how you can use astrology to figure out the number of people dead (20-30K), and the power and water being out for week – months in the warning email you sent about the upcoming LA quake. With my understanding, I have no problem relating some aspects of your information but others with objective numerical values seem a bit more on the paranormal front when there is no explanation provided.
Respectfully yours.
Rob,
A non-astrologer cannot understand the scientific explanation of how I can use astrology to make predictions. I’m certain of this. It is far too complicated, and I would have to use terminology that you would not understand.
Hello Tony:
Wow…this is scary. Could you help pinpoint where about in the L.A. area. Because I live in the L.A. area.
On the heels of these earthquake talks, perhaps this has already been seen:
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/03/two-la-habra-quakes-centered-around-fracking-wells-did-fracking-cause-la-habra-quake-pictures-maps-video-2929158.html
If not, food for though.
How far away is Mars from planet Earth? It’s complicated.
Earth and Mars have separate, elliptical orbits around the sun, and the distance between the two planets ranges from a maximum of 401 million kilometers to a minimum of 55 million kilometers. And this month, the distance between our planet and its second-nearest planetary neighbor (only Venus is nearer) is shrinking by around 300 kilometers a second.
In astronomical terms, we’re approaching the opposition of Mars, which occurs once every 26 months.
When Mars is closest to us, it appears to be on the opposite side of the sky than the sun — hence the name “opposition.” Just see for yourself in this new ScienceatNASA YouTube video above.
The fun begins on April 8. On that day, Mars will be aligned with the sun and the earth. But this year we’ll be closest to Mars on April 14, when we’ll be separated by 92 million kilometers (a tad more distant than the 55-million-kilometer absolute minimum).
Mars should be especially bright in the night sky that evening, shining nearly 10 times brighter than the average star.
“You won’t have any trouble finding Mars on this night,” the video’s narrator says. “The full moon will be gliding by the Red Planet in the constellation Virgo providing a can’t-miss landmark in the midnight sky.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/02/mars-opposition-2014-close-encounter-video_n_5076751.html
When Mars is close to Earth big wars usually start. And in the current astrological configurations, I expect major war activities in 2014.
Hello Tony, thank you for your info. I am curious about astrological information which you use to support your conclusion as to when the Big One will occur in LA. Why July, Aug or last 2 weeks in Sept vs. between the eclipses? Love your work. Thank you again. Sincerely, Annie
Hi Annie,
That is a very technical and very long explanation. If you would like to get in contact with me personally for this explanation/information, please contact me at tv723astro@gmail.com
Thank you.
Michael,
That’s probably Andy again, hiding behind another online screen name.
I don’t know about that but here’s another contribution from someone in astro-land, Robert Morningstar. Maybe there’s a reason why we’re getting all of this. Obviously all of the info form the various parties is consistent with what Meier’s been warning about for almost 60 years:
“The Martian Maelstrom” –
A Celestial Warning from Robert Mornngstar
The Signs of Mars’ Approach
Animals fleeing Yellowstone, super-volcano near?
7 Volcanoes Erupt around the World within a short tome of each other.
Michael,
You may want to add this graphic to the previous post. It shows the focal point of the Lunar Eclipse off
the coast of Madagascar.
Thanks,
M*
NOTE: I haven’t added the graphic but the info’s there. MH)
As I stated on my FarOut Radio interview on Monday 3/31/14 with Scott Teeters, some of the major signs of impending earthquakes or volcanic activity are the scenes of mass animal migrations and the sight of large flocks of birds leaving an area.
Below is a link to a report on animals fleeing from Yellowstone National Park, which experienced a series of Mag 4.+ tremors on the day after the LA quake last week.
The 8.1 magnitude EQ in Chile yesterday is merely a harbinger of many more to come within the next 3 weeks, with the most severe quakes, volcanic activity and electrical storms to come between Mars’ opposition to Earth on April 8th and the Lunar Eclipse of April 14-15 when Mars and Saturn will be in line with the Moon, Earth and Sun.
Stay alert locally, report your observations by email, FB and Twitter.
The worst is yet to come and will continue to unfold in the aftermath of the Martian opposition and the lunar eclipse. Terrible weather and electrical storms will ensue during the weeks following their passage.
Below is a link to the NASA chart of the Total Lunar Eclipse of April 15th. It appears that the entire United States will be able to see the eclipse from New York to California with totality coming at 10:37:37 Zulu (Universal Time), which is 5:37 a.m. Eastern and 2:37 a.m. Pacific Time.
NASA Eclipse Information:
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/OH2014.html
Eclipse Viewing Chart:
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/OHfigures/OH2014-Fig01.pdf
As I have informed some of you on my contact list, I believe that the massive and anomalous mudslide that took so many lives in Washington state last month was most likely triggered by tidal forces of the Moon and Mars’s closing approach to Earth. If so, the rest of the world can expect similar mudslides, landslides and avalanches to occur globally until the transit of Mars through opposition is over.
Because of this eclipse’s focal point in the Eastern Pacific (off the coast of California), I am concerned for those living along the San Andreas and Cascadia Fault Zones. If something slips along the Pacific Ocean floor, coastal California and Mexico could feel tsunamis.
M*
For all who are interested, I have never had a astrology chart done for me, but in my work every day I see many different people from all manner of backgrounds, and several of my customers have given me quick palm readings, and such, but my recent telephone conversation with Tony, just a few minutes in duration, truly opened my eyes to how truly accurate Tony is.
Now I am not trying to promote anything, or lay too many flowers at Tony’s feet, but the things he was able to tell me about a range of personal and past life events, some very, very recent, within a few hours of their actual occurrence, and some years back, was very impressive.
Tony, I hope that this post is not an annoyance, and I certainly hope that it won’t be interpreted as any sort of breech of confidence, but that’s how moved I am from our conversation, and want to assure you that I want to remain in contact with you.
Michael I want to thank you for the way you work with all of us who try to make meaningful contributions to your blogs and sure do like the manner in which you relate to all of us, very fair and concise.
I hope that I didn’t “pile on” with the back and forth with Lee and the “self recognized Victor Supreme, too much, and certainly I did not want to interfere with your position, also, I am working to remove myself from a recent economic firestorm, I will re-visit the donation page, hopefully with better success.
I am glad to post this information and also to say that in any of these areas, like astrology, divination, etc., let us please remember that they are also regarded by Billy and the Plejaren as among that which is “nonsense” or worse. But we have to think for ourselves, see what is or isn’t useful, and also consider that it’s just possible that occasionally someone can and does make a contribution of value through unusual means. I haven’t commented much personally on Tony’s information. I can say that personally I have found him to accurate and inaccurate. The Plejaren and even Billy have found themselves to be inaccurate about things too.
In contemplating this entire thread on astrology, with the pros and cons, and also my being strongly criticized for even hosting the discussion, I felt that it was necessary for people to figure it out for themselves AND I also had a feeling that there was going to be something that emerged that may be value for lots of people.
I think that potentially valuable thing could be pertaining to the earthquake information. We’ve seen examples of specific information from Tony and a couple of other astrologers as well. In a sense, the occurrence of a disaster in the specific time frame given will lend credence or condemnation to the astrologers and their claims. And let’s face it, such a disaster as has been foretold absolutely dwarfs the personal concerns, careers, reputations, etc., of any individuals.
How all this turns out, if all of this is just hysterical misinformation, intelligently derived accurate forewarning, evidence that someone on earth has indeed progressed the art, science and understanding towards the correct astrology, etc., etc., will ultimately be known.
As for your interactions with the skeptics, Allen, go for it. Since we’re all perfectly entitled, as well as encouraged, to be self-responsible and self-initiating, I certainly welcome people doing so in any and all forums and formats.
Hi Michael,
Oh, I have developed the correct form of astrology. I’m certain I will prove that to those who are interested with an open mind.
No one is 100% accurate, there are to many factors and variables involved, and there is always freewill that can change some prophecies.
Hi Allen,
Thank you for being truthful. I look forward to working with you.
Tony,
It’s interesting to read Allen’s experience.
While I can email you privately, I would consider doing a disservice to those following this topic if everything remained so, so allow me ask some of the things openly. On the other hand, it would be good to educate others on the prerequisites….
Fromt what was written, it appears you provided Allen details that impressed him over just a few minutes of phone conversation. Was this due to him being able to provide relatively accurate birth date/time information alone? What other information did you need? If I recall correctly, you said it took hours to do a chart….
Lastly, will you be able to confirm you have either psychic abilities yourself in some capacity or connections to other psychics? I am aware of a few psychics who also practice astrology.
All that I need is a relatively accurate birth time, within minutes. Not bragging or boasting, just being truthful, if I’m not the best astrologer in the world, I’m one of them. Many people would second that statement.
To do a full life reading does take hours.
To further answer your questions – with individuals all I need is a fairly accurate birth time to work with. When it comes to cities and countries, I need data related to the time they officially began. Everything and everyone had a beginning, therefore, everything has a natal chart. I combine the natal chart, with the progressed chart, and with the transits to make predictions. Very few people in the world can do this. It is a science and an art.
Allen,
If you don’t mind, I do have some questions for you, privately if you prefer.
MH can email you my address if you should let him know.
Thanks.
Hello Rob,
Sorry It took so long to respond, whatever I can help with, just let me know.
Tony,
In previous posts, you mentioned “Chile, Japan, Indonesia, Philippines, and China” as earthquake sites for 2014. While I can relate to how this list comes about astrologically, why was LA left out of the list?
Just curious.
Rob,
I put together my 2014 predictions on Jan. 1st, like I do every year, even though I did post them on this blog later in Jan. I wasn’t going to post them here at all, because of all of the silly skepticism and stupid questions some people pose to me. But I changed my mind, because there are some sincerely interested open minded individuals here too.
I did not work on the LA predictions until Feb., so they were not included in my original 2014 list.
Tony, what do you think about the “Oedipus Effect” as a professional predictor of future events, which is the fact that your telling the future to someone at a particular point in time will influence thoughts and actions of this person and hence will influence that person’s and others future?
When it comes to prophecies that can be true, but when it comes to predictions it can’t. There is a significant difference between the two. You should study what the Plejarens say about the subject. Even though I call all of my looks into the future “predictions”, I know that some are “prophecies”, and can be altered and even avoided.
Hi Michael,
I have another prediction.
Oleksandr Turchynov, the acting president of the Ukraine, will be killed by a secret method – James Bond style. Knowing the situation the way I do, I would say the CIA will kill him.
This will happen this year – 2014.
Michael,
I decided to take a look at the San Francisco Bay area, as far as a major earthquake hitting there this year – 2014. After studying the astrological charts for many hours, I predict there will be a mega-quake of magnitude 9.0 – 9.3 in the SF Bay area between September 25th and September 30th, 2014, with the 27th the most likely day.
Obviously, that will not be the quake that destroys that city, the cars without side-view mirrors are not present yet, but it should hit the populated areas and cause major damage.
Hello,
I am one of Tony Vasquez’s astrology clients. Tony told me about theyfly.com and this blog a year ago. I finally decided to look into this. He did not ask me to write anything. I have spent most of the last two days reading this information and the comments. I have to tell you that many on this blog are acting very badly towards Tony. I have been his client for 15 years, and he has been very accurate with me. He has helped me a great deal with my marriage, with my children, and with my business. Almost all of Tony’s predictions for me have come true at some point. Sometimes the timing is off a little , but the prediction will be accurate. Tony is an honest, very intelligent, and very good person. I think he did the right thing to defend himself when he was attacked, harassed, and insulted. According to what I read, he did not deserve the bad treatment. I think most of his predictions will be accurate, then I think many people here will owe him an apology. I’m not an astrologer. I have known 5 other astrologers, and Tony is by far the most accurate. I know astrology is very complicated. I tried to learn it once, it was too hard for me. I do love it though. It has helped me so much in my life. I like the Billy Meier teachings. I will keep on reading.
Charles,
Glad you’re enjoying the Meier material. Truly life-changing stuff. And I’m glad Tony has helped you.
Charles and Tony,
I don’t know why I’m getting back into this, the conversation probably has run its course. But… Let’s see if we can’t rap it up in some somewhat cordial manner. To be clear, I don’t think most of us necessarily believe astrology is completely useless, it may well help someone know themselves, or even contain some utility beyond this. And I can’t completely rule out that Tony may be among the best at this. But, I of course disagree with Charles and Tony that some large percentage of his predictions actually came true, finding it rather a matter of shifting/widening goal posts or simply too unspecific/too wide a net to begin with.. Of course, we will agree to disagree here (though, by the end of the year, I may be forced to change this position should certain concrete, specific things come to pass).
In any case, Tony, perhaps you’d like to share with us Billy/Christian’s response to your inquiry?
I also would ask Tony to let us know what answer he received.
Michael,
Because I’m posting this per your request, does not mean I agree with any of the negative and incorrect things that you have said about me.
I am willing to let by-gones be by-gones, but I will continue to ignore those individuals that I mentioned before, because for various reasons, they are waste of my very precious time.
Emails between me and Christian:
Apr 10 (9 days ago)
to Christian
Hello Christian,
I hope all is well with you.
My name is Tony Vasquez. I am a professional Astrologer with over 35 years of experience. I have known Michael Horn for a couple of years, and I have been contributing on his blog for several months.
I know from experience, and the success that I have had with it, that I practice the correct form of astrology. It is an astronomically correct form. There has been some debate on Michael’s blog as to whether that is true or not.
If it is possible, would you please ask Billy to comment on this issue. Specifically, could you ask him if I do indeed practice a correct form of astrology.
Thank you,
Tony
Apr 10 (9 days ago)
to me
Hi Tony,
How should Billy know whether or not you are practicing a correct form of astrology, especially since he doesn’t know you and your claims and statements, and since you are convinced that you are practicing the correct form?
Kind regards,
Christian
Apr 10 (9 days ago)
to Christian
Hi Christian,
Yes, I agree, how can Billy know? But there are some on the blog who think that Billy can know, or can find out. I don’t need the validation, but they do.
I know from experience that I am practicing a correct form, so we will leave it at that. And I think time will prove that I am.
Thank you very much,
Tony