Since my previous blog also became a lightening rod for opposing views on astrology, I offer this one for the discussion of the topic. I have titled it Terrestrial Astrology: Science or Superstition? since the issue includes the idea that the astrology that the Plejaren are said to practice is far different, more advanced and accurate than our terrestrial version.
Hopefully some light can be shed that will be of value to all concerned.
UPDATE on earthquakes:
Thank you for being truthful.
If someone does not agree with something that is being said, they should attack what is being said, not the person saying it. I think Billy once said something along those lines.
What you can expect in the coming California Quakes!
Tony,
I know you don’t really like to answer questions…but – especially because this blog was created specifically for you – I will remind you of a favorite FIGUian quote “No answer is an answer”…
To Michael Horn and Mr. Vasquez and whoever else….
Although it’s understandable why everyone keeps talking about people who live in L.A. maybe contemplating moving out of there because the 9.0 earthquake is coming… how come no one ever talks about the Hawaiian Islands? I mean, if a 9.0 earthquake hits, it’s going to produce a massive tsunami, is it not? How is that going to affect Oahu? Maui? Molokai? The reason I ask is because I have an aunt who lives there. Meier has specifically said living in L.A. is not advisable, but I have never heard him (or anyone else) talk in any detail (broad or specific) about anyone who might be living in the middle of the ocean out there on the Hawaiian Islands.
Can someone give me any answer as to whether or not people there should also leave in the same way the people on L.A. are being told to leave? or is there no real imminent threat to the safety of those who live on the Hawaiian Islands?
Thanks.
Sincerely,
Freddie
Freddie,
Astrologically, I do not see a mega-quake (8.0 – 9.0) hitting Hawaii any time soon, but certainly, if a big quake hits off shore in Japan, or off the west coast of the USA, it will generate a huge tsunami that will reach those islands. I would expect such an event to take place within the next three years.
Thank you, Mr. Vasquez for your response and all. 🙂
If something catastrophic is in the near future for the Hawaiian Islands in 3 or so years, well… I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. 🙂
However, I was more interested in what kind of destruction would befall the Hawaiian Islands from the earthquake that Meier saw when he went into the future, which you feel will happen this year, 2014.
As destructive as it will be for people in California and all… are the Hawaiian Islands pretty much going to be okay as far as you know? Maybe a few rumblings and some rough waters, but nothing more than that? Would that be a fair assumption? 🙂
Thank you.
Freddie
Meier has said the Hawaiian islands will one day be…gone. Of course, no timeline given…
Freddie,
You said:
“the earthquake that Meier saw when he went into the future, which you feel will happen this year, 2014.”
That’s incorrect. I do not have the date or year of the San Francisco quake that Billy has predicted. My specific quake predictions, that I have posted on this blog, are independent of the Meier material.
Deeply sorry. Thought we were talking about that earthquake. I should have read every-single-post before commenting. lol. 🙂
Hey, Mr. Vasquez.
i don’t know if you are aware, but I left a comment for you on the first page for this part of the blog:
https://theyflyblog.com/coming-earthquakes/04/06/2014/
Check it out when you get the time and tell me what you think.
Thanks, man.
Freddie 🙂
Tony V.
Will you be looking at the Canary Island situation for a possible eruption timeframe. I would appreciate any info you could give us.
Sincerely,
Mike f
Hi Michael F.
Yes, I will look at that situation in the near future.
Thank you for asking.
It seems I was correct when I posted that the astrological charts indicated that Flight 370 was completely destroyed by a “suitcase nuke” – extremely powerful (plastic) explosives.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/16/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-how-long-will-search-continue/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
MH370: How long will the search continue?
“Monday marks 100 days since the Boeing 777 disappeared. To the frustration and disappointment of many, no tangible evidence has been found. How long will authorities keep working to solve this expensive mystery and what are their reasons for doing so?”
By Sophie Brown, CNN
updated 7:13 AM EDT, Mon June 16, 2014
As I commented to Matt on another topic, I am unaware of confirmation of such evidence. Also, I think that “suitcase nuke” and “plastic explosives” are entirely different things.
I hope the Ps and Billy tell us what happened with that jet. Suitcase nukes are different things, various types.
Regarding your post on the other page:
Tony – Astrologer says:
June 24, 2014 at 8:02 pm
Obviously, the above mentioned individuals are knowing, or unknowing, agents of the disinformation strategy of the various intelligence agencies. Who has the most to lose, if the Meier material becomes common truth? The governments and the religions. Their lies, evil machinations, fantasy, and stupidity, would all be exposed. They would lose their positions of wealth and power, most of them would be charged and found guilty of felonies, and crimes against Humanity, and imprisoned.
So, the beat goes on.
As I have said, I’m looking forward to Billy’s predictions of mega natural catastrophes taking place, then and only then, do I think people will start to wake up. People are too distracted by the worse kinds of “entertainment”, and too involved in their worldly and financial affairs, to investigate truth, even if it is life and death truth.
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I see you dropped “Professional” from your title. Good idea.
“{You’re] looking forward to… mega natural catastrophes” — that doesn’t sound like the sweet new ager I know you to be.
And do you realize you are implicitly opposing people like Michael — people who are actively working to try to wake people up before the worst of the prophecies come to pass — with your “then and only then comments”? And by “worst kinds of ‘entertainment'” do you mean things that bring one into a fantasy world and encourage one to shift responsibility away from the individual and onto outside forces, like… astrology? And don’t you think someone who builds a career out of fantasy and lies — like claiming they can predict the future with 90% accuracy (with zero evidence supporting this but with mounting evidence to the contrary) — ought be counted among the liars and evil ones who have committed “crimes against Humanity”?
…I would think that if Meier’s material — which freely states the terrestrial astrology is largely B.S. — became common knowledge, then that person would have a lot to lose, no?
You are a worthless irrelevant simpleton.
And that is the last exchange of insults. Challenges and answers, yes. Insults, no.
“Suitcase nuke”, plastic explosives, it doesn’t matter, the bottom line is – I don’t think they will ever find any remnants of that plane.
Why are you claiming proves you are right? I don’t understand. Also — suitcase nukes are nuclear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuke. “plastic explosives” are not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_explosive.
And the words “plastic explosives” nor “suitcase nuke” are found in the linked article. No mention of explosives at all, really.
In any case, people were postulating “plastic explosive’s” going back to a couple days after the plane went missing. When did you post the prediction?
I really don’t understand, why are you claiming it seems you were correct?
The article linked doesn’t even suggest the thing is completely destroyed (despite you taking language out of context to make it appear that way) — quite the opposite in fact. The article ends “We need to find that plane, because the plane itself may be a mobile crime scene. The only witnesses to what happened that night are those black boxes that are inside the plane.” The whole article is about why they need to continue to look — not how it was likely destroyed by bomb.
What point are you trying to make Tony? Please clarify.
Update: The epicenter of the approx. mag. 8.9 earthquake to hit Los Angeles, California between September 14th and 30th, 2014, and between 3pm and 6pm, will be off shore approx. 5 miles. This, of course, should generate a huge tsunami as part of this catastrophe.
I’ve allowed this because Tony’s given even more specific information upon which the accuracy of his prediction will rest.
I sent this email to Michael recently. He suggested that I post it on this blog. Since I always listen to good advice, here it is.
“Hi Michael,
It’s a long story. The bottom line is they do not believe that astrologers can predict the future very well. I think you know, that I know, that I am not 100% accurate. Mainly because there are so many astrological variables and factors to consider when making prophecies (over 51,000). And the astrological computer program that I use is not accurate to the second in some calculations, only to the minute, which can make a huge difference. Also, stated birth times can be off by as much as 15 minutes, which then takes months to correct through careful observations. As well, freewill can play a minor, or major role, in many of them. Over the 30+ years of my career, I have been mostly accurate with them, up to 90%, with many of them coming true at a later time then prophesized. The timing is the most difficult part to get accurate.
As you might guess, if I’m inaccurate with one, or the timing is late, then people usually get skeptical, or disillusioned with me, and throw the baby out with the bath water. That doesn’t affect me in the least, because I know what is going on, but people can get skeptical very quickly.
So, I say jokingly, “making predictions is a risky business, especially if they are about the future”.”
There will be an approx. mag. 7.0 quake in Northern California between Cape Mendocino and Eureka, between July 6th and July 13th. This quake is directly related to the 8.9 LA and 9.2 SF mega-quakes, that will hit between Sept. 14th and 30th, 2014.
I’m allowing this as a matter of record, since it contains more specific information that Tony is committing himself to stating of rate record.
Because everything I say is 100% incorrect and idiotic by our supremely learned resident professional astrologer, I will simply quote the wisest human being on earth:
“[T]he human being, as a free Wesen evolving itself ACCORDING TO ITS OWN WILL WITHOUT ANY INTERVENTION FROM THE CREATION, is… capable of doing as he/she likes according to his/her free will. Equipped with a free will and ABSOLUTE FREEDOM OF ACTION, the human being is, therefore, able to determine his/her way and evolution himself/herself, and with that, naturally, also the kind of his/her thinking and the actions and results, and so forth, which arise from them, quite according to the law of cause and effect into which he/she is indeed integrated in accord with Creation. And this law is fairness on one hand, and the guiding principle of life on the other: fair, because the human being has to determine his/her way, in every direction and regard, ABSOLUTELY HIMSELF/HERSELF, and is innately responsible himself/herself for his thoughts and actions in every form; and, guiding principle, because the human being himself/herself determines every cause and effect by means of his/her conciousness and thoughts, INDEPENDENT OF SOME KIND OF CREATIONALLY-PROVIDED INFLUENCES.”
-Might of the Thoughts, p. 64-66 (It’s a good book Tony, you should read it).
Tony, please stop distorting the truth as it is laid down in the renewed teachings. Stop suggesting your astrological (mis)understanding is Meier/Plejaren approved. Let it be known that what you suggest regarding astrology is in fact antithetical to the teachings.
I know you haven’t read the teaching (but nevertheless like to give lip service to it) but you cannot have it both ways — you cannot claim allegiance to the teaching, while butchering one of it’s core messages. If you disagree with Meier — and you obviously do — that’s fine. But please be open about that, instead of sneakily trying to misinform/lie to people as to a core element of said teaching with your absolutely opposed and outside-the-teaching ideas on astrology.
Michael,
They still haven’t found a trace of flight 370, even though they have used EVERYTHING AVAILABLE TO SEARCH WITH, and they never will, because as the astrological charts indicate, it was completely destroyed by terrorists using a “suitcase nuke” type of bomb. The plane disappeared March 8. As I have told you, this will happen again.
What will happen again? You are predicting another downed flight? Oh, are you referring to your previous prediction about an American flight going down?
Just want clarity on what you mean.
Astrologically indicative – flight MH17 very similar to flight 370 – Both
Malaysia airline flights, both Boeing 777, both exploded in air, both huge related controversy.
There will more airline disasters this year, including in the US.
Hi Michael,
As I indicated in January, 2014 and 2015 have war astrologically written all over them. Witness: The Russians in Ukraine, Isis in Iraq and Syria, and the conflict between Hamas and Israel. These wars will escalate, and no one will be able to stop them. To me, they are all part of WW3 developing.