All that is required is the openness of the eight year-old’s mind
While we’re going to focus less on the evidence in the case, the corroboration of the prophecies, etc., and more on our own thinking and the thought processes by which we create all areas of our lives, we won’t abandon all interest in these other areas. So let’s look at what kind of thinking some people apply to the evidence in making their own determinations about its authenticity.
It certainly seems that a huge number of people today are incapable of actual, rational thought. They may be able to line facts up, do internet searches, etc., but their ability to reason is gone or non-existent. They can’t think in accordance with reality, only with a linear process that doesn’t take into account how things work (and don’t work) in real life.
Once again , the WCUFO
For example, it should be sufficient for any truly rational, intelligent, logical, realistic person to put the nighttime WCUFO photo into PhotoShop and – seeing their OWN results – immediately grasp that not only are the photo and the case real but that all factors eliminate the possibility of any kind of hoax.
But many people who are being “educated” to regurgitate information, to perform like trained seals in order to attain degrees, credentials, etc., are now too often so deficient in reasoning abilities that they would have to…debunk their own results rather than allow themselves to grasp the reality of the evidence that they just revealed to themselves.
When we look at the WCUFO photo, we are presented at the same time with a boat load of accompanying facts and information. The photo has appeared, for some 33 years, to be only some “model” against a “black curtain”. This photo, one of 64, were taken by Billy Meier with a 35mm film camera. The man who took these photos never drew attention to the proof hidden in plain sight – plain sight not being so plain until decades later when the technology was invented that allowed even a child to reveal and see the hidden truth.
Real Life Factors
When the known and established circumstances of the photographer’s life are factored into the equation – which already is the problem since the modern crop of so-called scientists, skeptics, etc., haven’t been taught to actually think like real investigators, detectives and such – then the reality is all the more staggering.
Instead of learning how to think comprehensively and realistically we have some people who pursue their “specialized” aims, credentials and status while being functionally useless. Further, they are laden with usually unconscious beliefs and assumptions that a “real UFO case” would be conducted flawlessly, by super-human beings, immune from mistakes, oversights and problems. Because these aspiring specialists have no practical training in the realities of how life actually works, how messy even the best of plans and procedures can become when numbers of real, live human beings, of different abilities, backgrounds, intentions, personalities, knowledge, etc., are involved in something, they hold up a sterile template as the measure of how things are supposed to be if they are real.
They leave out other important, real life factors including the weather, financial and technological resources, adversaries within and without, all of which are among the classic but highly relevant “means, motive and opportunity” that would need to be considered in determining if someone was trying to “hoax” something.
So with only superficial and false criteria, unrealistic expectations and assumptions, they actually don’t investigate, weigh and evaluate all the components of a situation. Instead, they lie in wait – on their computers since actually going to investigate in person is too inconvenient – for the first seeming inconsistency that is based upon their own below conscious level skepticism, beliefs, etc.
They simply gloss over facts such as that as far back as 1964, hundreds of people witnessed the craft that Meier photographed in India. And, since we filmed the cross in the sky photo while we made The Silent Revolution of Truth – and I was two inches away from this obviously not faked photo taken with a 1940s Kodak bellows type camera – I can personally attest to its existence and authenticity. Having had such a camera in my family years ago, I would have to laugh in the face of anyone who would try to suggest that any “special effects” could have been performed with it and in a remote part of India at the time. Of course, if they were genuine researchers and investigators, the know-it-alls would go and investigate it for themselves.
A Child’s Mind
The point of all of this is that unless and until people learn how to think and reason, they will rely only on their technologies, i.e. computers, etc., to try to solve problems that the human mind must reason its way through. Of course, in deference to the children of today (who are capable of using technologies unavailble to any of the great scientists of the past) all that is required is the openness of the eight year-old’s mind to perceive the results that it obtains and to grasp the inescapable conclusions that are simply too clear and logical for many so-called scientists and other skeptics.
This is probably a terrifying prospect for those who’ve invested considerably in their own “education”, as well as in the now ubiquitous technology that reveals the truth that, unlike a child, they may not be functionally intelligent enough to comprehend.
See also: Analysis of the WCUFO Photographs
Oops , My post got slightly tweaked . Atlanta is the largest distribution hub in the USA it houses Fed Ex , UPS and its ground and air . So its the most thorough outlet in the US and it also goes out from thier international . So its no joke ( can’t believe my post got tweaked , I was hacked last week ;( The end result is essentially swat teams , martial law and mass FEMA camps . Those pictures of the mass plastic coffins are insanely scary . Like some 250 thousand per camp just like the gov purchase of some one billion bullets . Ferguson Missouri turned into a zombie town real quick . Think , no water , no food , a racial insinuation and were off to marshall law . Obama already acted alone passing an act to detain anyone with a upper respitory disturbance .
Many people here are wondering why the general public is so dumped down and unable to change or correct anything in a real sense. A lot of it is definitely related to our genes, which have been altered and weakened by the et´s. Also our education system, religions, politics, idelogies and sects have done their best cloud our reason and thinking.
A huge negative factor for all of us, especially in the western world, is our diet. I mean can you really expect a person to grow up to his/her best pontetial when we are made to eat and drink a chemical coctail that does immense harm to our bodies and especially the brain? With all the aspartame, white sugar, corn syrup, monosodium glutamate, beef hormones, gmo´s, fluoride, artificial colouring, nitrites etc is it any wonder that people walk around like zombies? Add to that all the poisons in our environment, radioactivity, failing atmosphere/ozone protection, mercury from the vaccines, dangerous legal/illegal drugs, the soup of harmfull electronic frequences and the forced urbanization of the world. Put all that together and even Einstein would have an IQ of a retard after that treatment. The fact is over the last 50 years or so the quality of our food (and the environment) has plumeted, with artificial chemicals replacing real ingredients.
And yes, I know vaccinations is a valid science but injecting mercury to our bodies is a bit hard to justify.
What do Billy/Plejaren have to say about vaccinations? I have found some diet related items on the contact notes and figu publications etc but I have not seen a full article about it, maybe someone can point me to more information about that.
Our mouth hygien and cleaning of our teeth is very important. In one of the contact notes it is said that the P´s use “sound waves” to clean their teeth. There are ultasonic toothbrushes availible in the market. Has anyone tried them?
Thanks to Michael and everyone who is posting(sane)information on this blog.
Good questions and food for thought. But let’s also reflect for a moment on the fact that those of us throughout the world who don’t succumb to the dumbing down, those who find and work with the Meier material, etc., are demonstrating the might of the thoughts, etc. Certainly there are many factors that can contribute to a persons health resistance to these influences, etc.
But if we’re not blessed with the constitution of an armored tank, we can still fortify ourselves through the correct application of the might of the thoughts.
Right. And to further Michael’s thought — as most of us relatively seasoned Meier students are well aware — let it be understood that this “fortify(ing) ourselves through the correct application of the might of the thoughts” is a real, tangible, measurable, observable thing. As mentioned in Meier’s book “Might of Thoughts”, proper thinking acts as a protective shield on the entire body. And, indeed, as continually borne out by science, healthy thinking is shown to have a resilience-imparting effect on the emotional- — and physical- — body.
It seems there is simply no greater investment — no where will you receive a better return in terms of health, security, peace of mind, joy, well-being, life satisfaction, etc. — then in spending time learning how to think, and tending to the garden that is ones thought world.
Thus concludes my ode to the Meier teaching and the might of the thoughts for the benefit of the new-coming reader.
Don’t worry, it won’t be…odious if you continue to odeify here about the teaching.
Agreed, our thoughts and feelings are very important in maintaining our health. My worry is that the potential of the human beings on this planet is supressed with the chemicals. It makes perfect sense with power hungry madmen we call our leaders. They do not want competition so they prob. don´t mind pushing these poisons to our bodies. Im pretty sure they and their children do not eat this crap. Fortunately there is a growing popular trend for better nutrition and clean foods, so in this arena we are moving slowly from beliefs to knowledge.
Just by coincidence I found this today, lots of information about health and nutrition. http://ca.figu.org/Q___A_-_Health-Related.html
The same contaminated winds blow, and rains fall, on crops, waters, etc., everywhere. We do the best we can, not worry too much about “they” and “them” and consolidate our personal power through the might of the thoughts, linking with an overgrowing number of like-minded people.
Here is a great product http://www.theyfly.com/Modifilan.htm which contains the ever-important iodine for radiation detox.
(We can talk about referral royalties later, Michael).
Thanks Andy, you radiate ’em, I de-radiate ’em, a great biz!
”Agreed, our thoughts and feelings are very important in maintaining our health.”
How important?
I will give you an example from approx. a 1.5 ago. I woke up one morning and right away I felt a running nose, slight headache, tiredness…. all the symptoms of a coming cold.
Since for the last 3.5 years I have been constantly letting go of my accumulated in the body emotional garbage, that day after waking up I also started doing it. Approx. after 5 min of work I got to the point that from my nose to the left I felt a very distinct heavy feeling. I quickly recognized it (by going through the list of 9 basic feelings) as grief. As soon as this recognition happened, that energy started quickly going down and within no more than a second the symptoms were gone. And I mean all of them !!!
I stopped vaccination of my kids years ago, when I learned what was in them. I filter the water. I cook myself for my family. I try to pick the best food and supply extra vitamins. But the the biggest emphasis for me now is to teach my kids how to consciously work with the garbage that they accumulate in the body by the wrong thinking – which must happen since they are just kids (9 and 12). I thought them how important is to observe what they feel at the moment, to pay attention to any place in the body that feels tense, painful – to recognize the hidden, suppressed feelings and let them go. My kids can most of the time, with my help or just working by themselves, can totally remove or lessen a headache, ear-ache, tummy ache. They are just kids like any other, they just do not go to the doctor when there is no need for it, when they can help themselves. They get angry, frustrated, fearful as all of us. What they get now is what most of the other kids I know do not – knowledge about themselves which they can prove in themselves and which should profoundly influence their lives and make them free and independent human beings.
Years ago I used to read, or listen to a lot of conspiracy stories: chemtrails, fema camps… etc. I am totally done with them now. When I started working within, I finally recognized how damaging it was for my body to believe in them and how anxious it was making me feel. I could not prove those stories before and I cannot do it now. Today having more insight into how I work within, I can say that I wish I had that realization years ago. It would have saved me many years of horrible panic attacks which I had to experience. On a positive side, I had a first hand prove how stupid thinking and feeling can ruin one’s health and live.
Michael is right! It is the might of the thoughts which are responsible. “Mind over matter.” Take Billy Meier for example. He smoked tobacco cigarettes one after the other. As far as I know he has since quit. At a UFO conference, the late Wendell Stevens told me that Billy has a collapsed lung. Please, if this is NOT correct then correct me.
So the point being is that Billy is alive and well at 77 years old! He has overcome a missing arm, a mental breakdown in the 80s, smoking related illnesses, and who knows what else. His body has taken abuse; abuse which could be just as damaging as our food has become today. THIS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF OVERPOPULATION. Yet Billy’s mind is strong enough to overcome his physical deterioration, and he has an active and productive years even into his senior years. We have to lower our food quality to satisfy all the hungry mouths. So the human being will have to overcome this food poisoning like man overcomes, a handicap like a missing arm. Here is another example. Notice how the Plejaren say that they have banned cancer. The Ps say cancer is a psychic illness that is a result of bad thinking, like being religious and not acting in line with natures laws and recommendations. So there are many clues to discovering the power of the mind and our power to take control of our lives and point it toward the ONE, the Creation, the Universe, the Truth…. and be healthy, peaceful, responsible people. We are in control; and anybody can do this to have great lives, even when faced with eventual adversities.
Hi UFOnthony,
Too many hits on cancer so if you can point me to where it says P’s say cancer is a psychic illness?
Hi Rob,
I tried to do a search to no avail. I remember reading it years ago, I think in an early contact. I may be partially incorrect here. Perhaps someone else here has a comment?
Here is a way to look at it too: If the human being is in line with Creation laws and directives, then that person is healthy. Therefore he/she may not be smoking cigarettes, being overweight, eating unhealthy junk foods, drinking alcohol, taking drugs, etc. All these vices that man does that trigger cancer like chemical poisons in the food are the direct result of religious thinking; in other words the company making the food does not consider the Law of Love, or the teaching of the ONE, and they fail to realize that by turning away from reason they hurt themselves as much as they hurt others. The spiritually minded person, on the other hand, would want to be responsible and be responsible for ones health. So the spiritual person would avoid these cancer causing choices to the best of their ability in the process of being a healthy person overall. In other words the spiritual person would not knowingly work in or around asbestos threats just for money. The spiritual person would make less money if necessary to avoid the asbestos danger, for example.
Having said all that, I really think that the power of thoughts can even overcome abuses the spiritual person may do from time to time. After all, we know that no matter if we are religious or in line with the spirit teaching, WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. And Creation allows for this because that is the meaning of life, finding and correcting mistakes to be better. Like for example, when Billy chose to smoke cigarettes for awhile. [Please keep in mind that the Ps have said that tobacco smoking cancer has been tied to the atomic radiation fallout from nuclear bomb testing; and that the authorities have just tied lung cancer to cigarette smoking to coverup the radiation danger. However I can not point you to the Figu source.] Nevertheless, smoking does pose a health risk and that is why, I would assume, Billy Meier does not smoke tobacco anymore. He has improved himself and Creation allows for this improvement.
For about 14 years I taught a fitness class to seniors, buy oldest students being 100, 101 and 102. Average age in class about 88.
Many of these people had smoked for 50, even 60 years. Of course for a long time they smoked cigarettes that were lss adulterated than the ones now.
See also: http://theyfly.com/WILL_HUMANITY_WAKE_UP.html
UFOnthony,
Thanks for responding.
If someone else knows please let me know. For my project I would need the exact source. 🙂
Hi Rob,
In Contact 57 Semjase says: “Concerning what you call cancer, etc., which is embodied by a parasitic, uncontrolled, misled life, is to be said that quite long ago we warded off and defeated these diseases.”
Not so much of a psyche disease per se (try telling that to the parent of a young child with cancer), but seems to be the result of bad life-style and our collective poor environmental stewardship. At least, that’s my reading of the quote.
Ah Andy,
Yes, I do remember reading that one, but that is not the same as declaring it a psychic illness.
Thanks for trying. 🙂
Right, I know. That was my point. I think Anthony was mistaken.
Indeed! And what keep us going strong besides the power that runs with our thoughts its the love for life, to our family, friends, children, community, ect. But it’s extremely hard to cope with all that is around, you guys didn’t mention the indoctrination that we recive from the get-go, you get sent to school, church, media, sports, and maybe if we got to survive that indoctrination is because we wasn’t born on this time when everything is more controlled than back in the day, so most of us had a little window to breathe (unfiltered information) sort of.
The might of thoughts is truly a message to be reconed with . If you approach this in way of a plan you can first understand faith healing was the body allowing and promoting its possibility . Considering the average brain quotient is not applying some 75% of its capability , clearly room is available for improvement .
Now lets address the food supply . Yes you are all so spot on that the food is scary now . Its effected by fallout , chemicals and radiation. So what to do . Purchase a hydroponic indoor system or an aquaponic system . Hydroponic uses a medium to allow the plant to propigate into and a precise system of light and air and nutrients is applied indoors . A 1000 watt metal halide or mercury vapor bulb will yield a crop every 4 months on average . You could say grow corn , have beans climb the corn and have squash on the bottom . As an example . Timers and tools are needed to monitor as you are playing mother nature , but keeping out radiation and chemicals . I have had the best tomatoes and the afforementioned crops possible with this technique . Next aquaponics uses fish in a large tank , say tilapia or trout and you suspend your media to affix the plant base to that floats above on the tank . Same lighting but you have a balance of food above and below with a more diverse yield .
So this is the might of thoughts here . You can do this . Heal yourself , supercharge yourself etc. etc. A friend has a business where they take tractor trailor loads of honey bees to places to pollinate . He gets paid well , naturally propogates vast expanses of land , recieves a tax break and then developes products like Burts Bees did ( a billion dollar a year company ) . Its here and now , the might of thoughts ….
Billy has written that tending to the might of your thoughts is like tending to a garden, you have to weed your garden (get rid of negative thoughts) so your vegetables (nuetral-positive thoughts) can prosper! 🙂 If a negative WWIII breaks out, and you are a casualty of the war, you will die. But you will be reborn with a new personality. That is a certainty. The unknown in this dilemma is.. what condition will the planet be left in at that point for your rebirth? Contaminated food/water? Will there still be a moral society to uphold people? Desertification and climate catastrophe? Destroyed northern hemisphere? Or will our planet rebuild after all of the destruction?
I think even though there may be some of the Dark Order manipulating Obama, he is still doing a great job, and like someone said, currently WWIII hasn’t broken out yet, so big props to Obama. There is much going on that doesn’t involve Obama, where the problem of conflict lies with others, ISIS, conflicts in the Middle East, etc, but on the flipside, dark forces of the US seem still seem hell bent on world domination. But people are howling against the wolves that howl with the US and the we seem to be losing allies as foretold.
I hope these worldwide skirmishes don’t escalate to a WWIII, but I am preparing for my death, and when my time in the beyond is done, and my new personality is born, my journey will continue. Just what exact conditions the planet is in for my rebirth will be based on the laws of cause and effect of this possible world war, the negative, positive, or equalised condition of my future consciousness will also be based on the laws of cause and effect of my future choices, mixed with a sprinkling of drawing on the storage banks, and fluidal forces of my current (and past) bones. Sobering. 🙂
Corey,
Since your thoughts are on reincarnation, it may be sobering to know that if the population reduces by about 75%, you may have to wait a long while in line before reincarnated. That may not be a bad thing since the planet might be fixed by then.
Hi Rob,
Here is something else to consider. Since a spirit forms goes through billions of lifetimes as a human being, there is no doubt that each spirit-consciousness will have experienced all sorts of tragedy filled lifetimes, as well as delightful ones with minimal hardships. When looking at your next incarnation, it makes more sense to wish or prepare for a number of possibilities, in my opinion.
Even in the worst WWIII/planetary breakdown scenarios, there will always be some humans living healthy, with all their basic needs provided, trying to clean up the planet and otherwise be responsible. Just as in a utopian planet of peace where there is a healthy population and the people are living in paradise, people could still have a lifetime where they are crippled up/diseased/malnutritioned and still have a line of evolution. Think Dr. Stephen Hawking for example. In other words, the goal for your next lifetime should not be to avoid hardships, handicaps, diseases, a hard environment and breakdown. But rather, my opinion is that, your wish for your next incarnation should be to just continue your recognition and study of the spirit teaching.
“Fighting over a few scraps of English information is pointless, when there is so much information in German, collecting dust in the FIGU Switzerland shop, just waiting to be read by the English world.” Corey M.
There are NOT “a few scraps of English information…” in Figu. This is NONSENSE and it is not seeing the reality of the situation. First of all, the spiritual teaching, is simple and easy for anybody to do. The spirit teaching is NOT complicated or requires a high intelligence to grasp. Quite the contrary, even a child can apply the spirit teaching masterfully.
If a Meier student does not think that there is enough English Figu material to grasp the spirit teaching and have enough basis for application, then he/she will not benefit from learning German. All this student will be doing is continually chasing his/her tail looking for that one text or book that will bring understanding and confidence.
There is enough for English speaking students to get an independent understanding of the spirit teaching, where they do not need to read book after book to grasp Meier. Reading Meier books are NOT what spirituality is; but rather what is means to be spiritual is what are in Meier books and publications. Once a welder for example learns what it takes to weld out of a book or course, he/she does not have to read, book after book to know; rather the welder takes what he/she has learned in books and applies that information in real life, thus creating real experience.
All the Figu spirit teaching student has to do is continually study the basic ideas in the Figu material, and apply them in real life. This experience, although often facilitated by a book, is taking what someone else has said and putting that to the test in your life. So put the idea of ‘Creation’ to the test everyday. Put the idea of self-responsibility to the test everyday. Put the ideas of Creational laws and directives to the test everyday. Put the idea of the Law of Love to the test each day. Put the idea of free will to the test everyday. There is more than enough, actually too much, in English already to put to the test to be accomplishing a consciousness-related exercise, or spirituality.
Michael , I have to appologize for getting too political at times and even loopy as I ponder this material and our challenging world . These guys and gals are spot on about the positive thoughts . I think reading contact 251 which is enormous , I walked away this time thinking about the challenges our planet faces and much of it is not our fault being inbred and a result of altercations . Now , Billy does make sense , again and again . He wants us to currently focus on our own personal responsiblity and he pushes us into the might of thoughts . We have to clearly overcome the injustace of the alterations. Its what we can do NOW to add small footsteps to move forward . Genetically these improvements move with us , and thats encouraging . We have moved forward quite a bit recently and I understand his points . The brain quotient is a cognicant visual like the usage of alana or alexa to view web traffic ( and btw your site has doubled in a short time in terms of traffic ! ) it lets you see progress . Biofeedback . We can cure ourselves , in contrast we can destroy ourselves . Think we can jump off a cliff or we can climb one . Disease is more so us as humans on the planet earth , our mother our home . Disease is stricken upon us as a result of us being a destroyer of our mother our home . The solutions to our problems are here and now . More so than ever I see them and they are a display of the importance of whats called perspective . We see a car accident from every angle a witness can view it . Most of those perspectives offer a different report . In light of this lets view a few of our car accidents . One , our environment is taking a big hit . We need oxygen and action to offset pollution . So we should plant trees ( not cut down rainforests ) and unite to promote clean waterways , streams and tributaries . We should identify the atomic energy comissions rising standards that raise the standards of acceptance . Should we find radiation in our tuna fish cans or on the west coast of california while our kids surf ? No , should we develop issues from the seafood in gulf of mexico or the west coast of the usa ? no Fukashima on the west coast and bp contextant chemicals and 14 billion gallons of radioactive crude per day in the gulf until they capped it in a tv display of nada . That chemical dropped the oil to the floor just like the death of the west coast on the floor . Biology is ransacked like simple planktons and now your salmon , tuna , shrimp show up maimed and starfish that are biological indicators show up tweaked . We lobby to clean it up , the basics . We do not have a roadmap to succes people . We have a political mess that strangles us every day and LIKES IT . We need ourselves a simple roadmap . Clean water , clean air , clean power , clean food , fair basic schooling , freewill , environmental repair . Was that hard? , its an off the cuff bang up on the keyboard as I am mad as hell and I think we can add a community requirement for participation . Know your neighbors and love your community , stop destroying the fibers of our existance , we all have recieved the same raw deal . Time to grow the world we want to live amongst . No ?
David,
While I don’t comment on each and every post I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking that you bring a lot of good info to the table. Carry on!
Rob: Good point!
UFOnthony (Anthony): ” All this student will be doing is continually chasing his/her tail looking for that one text or book that will bring understanding and confidence.” Actually the truth is you wrote those words not knowing the pace I read the German books, or how I apply the German words to my daily life, the same as you do the English words in your daily life. The only difference between us is I sometimes benefit from the evolution code that is missing from the English translations.
There are times i read the English translations too, it is nice to read the words in my mother tongue, but often I have found unanswered questions that are brought about by English translations: is that the answers are often covered (and answered) somewhere else in the German books that have yet to be translated. Billy’s books cover nearly everything topic. It’s nice that you have made the English work for you, for me waiting for translations wasn’t enough, but to each his own path of evolution. Have a great day. 🙂
” All this student will be doing is continually chasing his/her tail looking for that one text or book that will bring understanding and confidence.” Actually the truth is you wrote those words not knowing the pace I read the German books, or how I apply the German words to my daily life…”
Dear Corey,
I was not referring to you specifically. I was generalizing. I am sorry if my blog entry seemed personal.
My friend, I am glad that you enjoying reading, especially in different languages. There is no doubt a better value in the German Figu works, not because of the code, but because it is more accurate and free from religion (translation errors). Remember we must always consider free will over impulses. The reason I think that Billy Meier wrote such a MASSIVE library of material is NOT so that the spiritual teaching student NEEDS to reads every last page to get it all; but rather think that the Figu library is more like a university. And Billy is filling that university with as much as possible while he is alive.
Students attend a university and rarely take every class. University students generally major in a particular field in the university. Then of course there are other, more devoted to education who carry on to get masters and doctorates and multiple degrees. But no matter each student is doing it right, according to their level of intelligence and their passion for learning.
We know for example if a student majors in business administration, many of the same classes/topics apply for someone who is majoring in say political science. So people who have unique interests usually have enough basics to work and understand with the greater population. And we know that even for people with multiple degrees, doing advanced study, they all had to start with the basics of reading, writing, math, spelling, language, history, economics, political science, etc.
So the point being, that the English speaking world should not feel or think that they are handicapped or at a disadvantage; but rather, a healthy outlook would be for a student to want to learn German, not so that they will finally be spiritual and get a code, but rather to delve even deeper into the spiritual teaching/history/prophecies/news/recommendations. The German speaking student that has read all of Billy’s books, contact notes, bulletins, special bulletins, spirit lessons, is not finally spiritual; no this student is like the doctor with multiple degrees who is just a more advanced student; but an English speaker that has only a limited amount of Figu books like the “Goblet of Truth” or “Intro to the Spiritual Teaching” has enough for any student to major in spirituality. And go out and be spiritual in the real world. And this is all I’m looking to do. But I certainly respect all the people who have learned German to improve themselves and have deeper access to Figu. To each his/her own. Cheers!
Anthony, why are you so quick to say Meier’s German writings are mostly redundant, superfluous, etc. when you have no access to them?
I wouldn’t want to live a lifetime just sitting on the “Introduction to the Spiritual Teaching”; we will be missing — to name only one likely particularly important one — the Introduction to Meditation.
Dear Andy,
Oh no, I am not “…quick to say Meier’s German writings are mostly redundant…” I have been at this for nearly 20 years. I have read much authorized, non-authorized Figu books, booklets, pamphlets, etc. in English. I have been following Billy Meier on the internet since the 90s. I remember the old billymeier.com. Even back then there was a lot of English. I have been following TheyFly.com since the beginning. I have probably read most of the MH blog here. I regularly visit futureofmankind.com, and have been a fan since the beginning. I have followed the figu.org since the beginning when it was figu.ch. I have been following the English Figu forum since the beginning. I have asked several questions to Billy over the years. I spend everyday doing something that relates to the spirit teaching.
If the English student, that is deeply interested in learning the most about ‘meditation,’ is not reading the MOUNTAINS of information already available about meditation in English, well that student will NOT magically get it in German. The means to learning and gaining wisdom and knowledge is not reading books or from a special book. It is a combination of reading, thinking, practicing, making mistakes but making corrections… it is a process, not a destination. Billy’s “Meditation” book is not magic for understanding meditation; but it is meant to be a source book for detailed study.
In my opinion, the directions for the peace meditation (http://www.theyfly.com/salome/salome.htm) give English speakers, much to think about and put to practice with regard to understanding ‘meditation.’ Take for example, “Try not to pursue any straying thoughts; this means allowing no thoughts to enter the mind that are not part of the meditation procedure. Concentrate solely on the sentence “Salome gam nan . . .” Should you catch yourself concentrating on other thoughts, return to focusing on the meditation sentence. A very important point for the success of the peace meditation is based on the proper intonation and pronunciation of the sentence to avoid emphasizing the wrong syllables.”
Focused attention on a topic, avoid straying thoughts, concentrate and don’t allow unwanted thoughts, how is this difficult? If you have been thinking about this article, following the English figu.forum.org “Meditation” thread, searching for info about ‘meditation’ on future of mankind, and looking for stuff on Youtube, practicing the PM, do you think that that the Figu English student would have a decent picture what meditation is, without waiting for the magic grail?
It’s only logical to say that if one hasn’t read all of the German information – which I think constitutes about 80% of the information – then it is being both presumptuous and “…quick to say Meier’s German writings are mostly redundant…”
MH,
I have read all that is in English, (thousands of pages, videos, etc) and that material is redundant. These texts all make reference to the same topics over and over again: Creation. Religion is bad. Laws and directives. Neutral-positive. Overpopulation. Etc., etc., If you are not seeing the patterns and putting the pictures together, don’t bother learning German. If you can not get a basic understanding of what spirituality is verses religion, from all that is in English, don’t bother learning German. If you are not focusing your thoughts, disciplining them to gain a balanced outlook toward the positive, with all that is in Figu English, do not learn German. If you are not looking for clues and stories, all around you in English, that are parallel to the English Meier prophecies, and seeing a pattern, don’t learn German. No my MH friend, go learn how to learn with what you have.
I even have bootleg copies of Figu stuff. I have an English translation of Billy’s “Meditation” book, unauthorized of course. So I have seen a lot more than you would think. If people really want something, they set their mind to it, they accomplish it. A blind man can still ‘see’ by developing and becoming a better listener. So I do not need anything. I have abundance with Creation. If the student with less, works harder than the student with MORE, the student with less will learn more.
I
We may have read and even thought we understood “everything”. It’s rarely the case. And often Meier says something a great number of different ways, all of which may hold additional meaning to those who ponder. He write thousands and thousands of pages because…he actually thought he had something to say each time.
So if someone says that they derived additional understanding from things that someone else didn’t, then we certainly don’t lay fault or be dismissive of the same content when the fact that we didn’t, perhaps yet, acquire that treasure wasn’t because it wasn’t there and all was merely…”redundant”.
And of course he who has more can also work harder.
“We may have read and even thought we understood “everything”. It’s rarely the case. And often Meier says something a great number of different ways, all of which may hold additional meaning to those who ponder.”
You found it Michael, you found the hole to my argument. Yes, the only handicap, for the serious English student, digger, investigator, is that the untranslated German texts would withhold “different ways” of looking at things, and “the additional meaning” from the focused texts, like the Meditation book.
All this means is that the English student has to practice more with all the English texts that are available. As we learn in the spirit teaching all handicaps can be overcome by relying on the rest of Creation. Now if you are an affectionado of Figu literature, you might really want that outlook, and focus, and even the loveliness of the German. But if you are somebody who has a hard time getting through even one Figu book, don’t reach for another… and certainly don’t drop it to then go learn German. No, go read the book over and over and over again. This is the foundation of self-responsibility, self reliance and independence.
Now what I am going to say next will be controversial. (as if I haven’t already:) I will be happy to back up everything I say with logic and facts. My opinion is that the reason there are also so many, basically redundant ideas, scattered throughout thousands of Figu texts is because if any portion of it was destroyed (WWIII, civil wars, planetary breakdown, etc) any remaining texts would be enough to carry on with the mission. If all planet earth had, was the “The Goblet of Truth” that survived, that would be enough for people to understand the danger of religion, and how to replace that with the spirit teaching. Sure, the Earth humans will have a lot more work… but you know, it might be good for them. So instead of 800 years you might have 1400 years till Earth gets it.
Do you think that the guy who invented the wheel learned how to do it from a book? No, most insights, revelations, understanding come when it happens to ourselves. The guy who invented the wheel probably studied a lot from the guy who invented the ‘circle.’ He might have been walking by the stream looking for berries or rabbits, thinking about circles from what he has read on the cave wall, the circles he drew in the dirt, and then it dawned on him, why not make a wheel out of this round stone I found here on the trail. You can tell a child that the stove is hot, but unless the child touches it and gets burnt he/she has no idea what hot is.
The problem with the Meier writings in German, is that they require a fairly advanced level of skill with the German language to understand. If you’re sitting there with a German-English dictionary for some of the more complicated conceptual words, it will take forever to get through the material. Also some words are subtly nuanced, so that only someone who has been raised with the German language from birth, so to speak, will fully understand them. IMO we need more translations of the Meier material for English-speaking people who want to read Meier’s teachings.
Corey,
You are of the minority who can read German and English so I’ll ask you …
When you read the text from Billy has the evolution code, versus the translated English one that doesn’t, do you actually “sense” a difference? If so, can you tell if it is not just your “mind’s expectation” versus a “impulse.”
Also, I see a general sense of resignation to the situation on Earth by others as well. I ask people to reflect on this sense of resignation — is that the conclusion part of the teaching? If not — and that people have the ability to reaso, a free-will to act — what should be the next step, logically?
I’m not Corey, but I’ll venture a reply on the reading of the German texts. There’s a musicality to the language in German, a rhythm which is impossible to duplicate in English. In comparison to the German rhythm, the English texts are stilted and choppy-sounding. So as far as there being a context of spirituality to the sound and thought of the language, German texts make a different impression on the mind. It is a subtle difference, but perhaps important as far as connecting psychologically or mentally with the Plejarans.
As far as the conclusion of the teaching being “resigned”, that would most likely be insofar as the future cannot be changed significantly, perhaps only for certain individuals who can choose to be or not be where the significant events will be happening. What we can modify is our own individual destinies, but not the course of the future in general, which will happen as it has been foreseen by the people who were allowed to visit with it.
Hi Carolyn,
I agree, to the German speaker, the language must have a nice rhythm. And it would make a unique impression on the mind. But remember, learning is a conscious thing. We do not automatically learn from an impulse. (Does anybody sense this similar to poor Tony Astros demand of the star impulses?)
In order for the non-native German speaking student to benefit from the German original, on a conscious level, that student would be practicing healthy lessons already in their daily life. They would be reading, thinking about what they read, practicing it, making mistakes with things and making corrections. The true German student would not be waiting years to learn about a subject. No, this student is disciplined and familiar enough with studying things to become proficient on a daily basis. This student would enroll in a German speaking class and then take advanced level classes, or do a home study course. This would not be a problem, because this student knows what is takes to learn something as complicated as from going from zero to advanced German.
In my opinion, Figu is doing the English speaking population a huge disservice, creating unnecessary frustration and stagnation, by DEMANDING that ALL students, strait-up, learn German. And then they don’t give the people a plan and tell them that they should start with conversational, then immersion, and then take advanced classes. No Figu tells the people go learn German… and then expects the people to translate things overnight!
For the average student, learning German to the proficiency to translate it for Figu, is a far, far, far greater task then just having the people learn the basics of the spirit teaching in English. And then having them get good at that, instead of telling them to be German doctors(!!!!!) and translate complicated science texts in their spare time!
Anthony, first off, I’m so glad we can have RESPECTFUL disagreements here again. Nice to chat with ya.
Second, who is demanding you learn German? What there may be is requests to not attempt to speak authoritatively about things one is not and cannot be privy to.
And why demean the code? It is there for a reason. Sure, perhaps one does not “learn automatically” from it, but we already have here one testimony that the learning seems to be sped up through the German reading. You’ve been at this for 20 years — imagine for a moment that by year 4 you had been reading the German. 16 years soaking up the code. I don’t know how old you are, you seem youngish; let’s suppose further you continue to read the coded texts for another 44 years. 60 years total we are at now.
Subtle the code may be, but can you not grant that — given that length of time — the effect could be huge, the difference in learning curve drastic?
And just imagine if the code helped you make one better decision, which opened up an opportunity… the learning continues, and the code inspires you to make a small change, this makes you just a little more efficient and effective, this eventually opens up another opportunity… and on and on. Feasibly, code-benefited, eventually you could be in a whole different and more powerful, more successful, more knowing and contented place in your later years than you will otherwise be in your current code-less destiny.
I don’t want to over-hype the code — indeed, I would assume the German-only information may benefit you more than the code itself — but I don’t want you to under-hype it (especially given that you have no experience to speak from). Again, the code is there for a reason.
Billy’s meditation book may not be “magic for understanding meditation”, but, I understand that it is the definitive text — world-wide — on the subject. The difference between reading those books, and between reading whatever else there is on meditation in English from FIGU or otherwise, may be akin to the difference between reading Stephen Hawking’s definitive book on astronomy, versus studying an outline from an undergraduate astronomy course.
I don’t know, and neither do you. But I suspect the Hawking analogy is not far off.
There is a reason FIGU strongly encourages folks to learn German, and you’re not doing anyone any favors by implicitly encouraging them not to.
“Second, who is demanding you learn German?”
Dyson for one. It happened again last week. It is on one of these recent threads. Go find it. Jacob, a former forum moderator, repeatedly insists that people learn German to catch up to him. I have gotten, shut up and go learn German from every Figu expert since the beginning. At first I was like you guys, I was going to learn. Then I learned over the years that, I really had no passion for German, only the spirit teaching. And to be honest, I could care less what Figu thinks or if I am not doing my part for the mission.
I am learning the spirit teaching at my level. I am getting good at some things. But I do not know it all. But most importantly I am not contributing to religion. Does any of this sound like it may have been derived from Figu information?
“….reading whatever else there is on meditation in English from FIGU or otherwise, may be akin to the difference between reading Stephen Hawking’s definitive book on astronomy, versus studying an outline…”
Yes you are right. But what you are not seeing is that there is not only Billy’s Meditation book on meditation, but literally hundreds of pages of Figu related sites, books, pamphlets, youtube videos that talk about it. So it is more akin to reading SEVERAL available physics outlines, even additional authors. Mind over matter, we can overcome handicaps and mistakes with the power of the thoughts. There is no definitive source to learning. Even after reading the Meditation book, the student would still need to consult other info from Figu on meditation. The German Meditation book reader would still need to read the text over and over again. And the German reader would still be in a PROCESS of learning what ‘meditation is;’ because the Meditation book is not magic, the people still have to play around with the info making mistakes with it and correcting themselves over a period of time.
Anthony,
Alright, Anthony. That’s fair. I still standby my last sentence in my 10:59 pm post above.
I’ll also mention, as many may know, learning a new language not only gives one a new skill and new knowledge, they say it actually makes you smarter, decreases your risk for Alzheimer and otherwise age-related cognitive decline. If folks needed a little more motivation to have a go at it…
I’ll also mention, it is not as hard as some may suppose. It’s a chore, no doubt, and takes lots of time. But not THAT much time — if done right. I’ve obsessively studied language learning methods over the last couple years, and with my increasingly sophisticated method, I am now picking things up much much quicker than expected.
I may post the tips and tricks I learned on the figu forum or here soon.
Take care.
“There is a reason FIGU strongly encourages folks to learn German, and you’re not doing anyone any favors by implicitly encouraging them not to.”
See, they got you demanding too. People who think like you are so afraid to talk about this in a civil manner. Like it is a sin or something. This whole German thing has become comical, and if wasn’t religious to think that a special code is necessary, or that there is a magic book, to stall and stagnant people until their God arrived, it would be funny. But it is not funny.
Afraid? Uncivil? I’m certainly not the former, and certainly didn’t intend the latter.
And I assume you’re joking or just being hyperbolic — I did not, do not, “demand” anyone to learn German. I don’t even think I’ve ever seen Dyson “demand” this of anyone. Repeated encouragement to learn German, or requests not to speak pseudo-authoritatively on things you don’t know about, is not a “demand” for you to learn German.
Whats comical is how flippant you are in regard to Billy’s own admonishment to learn the German language if you want to get the most out of the teaching.
Because you took the liberty to do a little psycho-analyzing of me, I got a question of my own — why do you feel so threatened by this well-intentioned and well-founded advise of Billy and Figu? Is it because you just aren’t interested in becoming self-responsible to the degree Meier encourages, and don’t want to be reminded of your shortcoming in this regard?
Tell the Trekkies and the UFOIC folks hi for me.
About the code, I never said it was “necessary.” Again, I don’t want to over-hype it; I don’t understand it or know how it works, and I don’t even have any experience with it yet. In this respect, ironically, they are magic books as far as I am concerned!– that is, if the code really exists and truly does have some smaller or larger effect. And, having far and away earned my trust, I take Billy at his word here. And — one more time — if it does exist, it wouldn’t have been put there through great effort if it was as completely useless as you continually insinuate.
Here’s what is religious — forming beliefs about something (e.g., “learning German is not very valuable”) and preaching it (e.g., “don’t bother learning German, there is plenty of good ol’ redundant, superfluous info in English to mull over”) without significant certainty that that BELIEF is true.
And, to be sure, Billy — and everyone else who has actually put in the effort and learned German — appears to disagree enormously with your erroneous belief.
“Afraid? Uncivil? I’m certainly not the former, and certainly didn’t intend the latter. And I assume you’re joking or just being hyperbolic…”
Dear Andy, I am sorry if this seemed personal; my entry was a generalization for all those apparent English students who seem like ‘deer in the headlights;’ the same ones, at it seems to be a majority, asking Billy the same questions over and over again, waiting desperately for the next translation to finally understand. And it is not always just the English speaker, the German/English people seem just as lost and dependent. The spirit of the teachings is to take control of your life, no matter what you are dealt, and make something of it.
“…why do you feel so threatened by this well-intentioned and well-founded advise of Billy and Figu? Is it because you just aren’t interested in becoming self-responsible to the degree Meier encourages, and don’t want to be reminded of your shortcoming in this regard?
Not at all. But yes I have short comings in this area. I should help translate stuff to English. The world is about to burn… I know the drill. You must think I was born yesterday.
If anyone is grasping what I am saying it is a solution to helping the English student better find their traction with the spirit teachings. It is ridiculous for the English student to cry, and cry that there is not enough Figu information; yet these same people will never do a search to see if a Questions to Billy– Answered question has been asked before or if there has been a discussion on a thread. No, these people are being irresponsible and they are not seeing reality, as you do not. Because you ” regurgitate information, to perform like trained seals in order to attain degrees, credentials, etc., are now too often so deficient in reasoning abilities that they would have to…debunk their own results rather than allow themselves to grasp the reality of the evidence…” I have been logical. My problem is I’m not ‘towing the Figu party line.’ I am not afraid of change.
“it wouldn’t have been put there [the code] through great effort if it was as completely useless as you continually insinuate.”
Andy, my friend, you are not seeing reality. Nowhere have I insinuated that the code is useless. People can just read the German; they do not have to understand German to gain the benefits of the code. So you have Figu zombies reading things with no sense to them so that they can get the code. Basically, I am not interested. Call me primitive, stupid, nut-evolved, not up to par with Figu people, I do not care. I know what I know and I can present a logical argument. The code is passive, like astrology impulses… everybody heard Billy. I find it hilarious that this same argument and dependence on an impulse is now cropping up, but with another human stick. I don’t care what most of the Figu people think. I like to know things, even if it is in a simple way. I like to burn my hand, as you can tell. There is no discussion with Figu? Go learn German, without any plan, or understanding for the non-native speaker? Go ahead… don’t talk up and let things ride. I can feel that I satisfied my responsibility, by letting Figu know here publicly, for whatever it is worth.
No need to apologize, Anthony. Now I’m afraid you have read to much into my words — and not your fault. Obviously, sometimes its impossible to understand tone through the written word; I wasn’t offended, nor I am over serious or stern in this conversation. Friendly disagreements.
The astrology-code analogy is a false analogy. Whatever astrological impulses exist, one cannot choose to receive them or not (though, as we all know, one CAN choose what to do with the impulses!). And the astrological impulses, I understand, can be either in the negative or the positive.
The code on the other hand, I understand, always affords one only neutral-positive-equalized impulses. Further, one can choose to receive these impulses (read the German coded texts) or not (don’t read the texts). Thus, astrology and the code are two quite different things. Obviously, here again, it is up to one what they do with the code impulses, but thats where the astrology-code analogy ends.
You say you have not insinuated that the code was useless, but your given analogy and subsequent comments suggests exactly that to me.
And I think you’re getting off topic. I am not defending the behavior of anyone who is trying to get Billy to take them by the hand, or whatever youre suggesting is going on with some folks on the figu forum. I am defending the idea that learning German can be a very valuable thing because of: 1) the benefits inherent to learning a new language; 2) the benefit of Meier’s non-translated info, and; 3) the benefit of the code.
You seem to suggest all of this is very small potatoes. I disagree. I think they are very big potatoes. Sweet ones. And all you have given to counter this is the non sequitur that people whine too much about a supposed dearth of German translated material.
And again I’ll mention that it appears that everyone who has gone through with learning the language agrees with me, while the only one I’ve seen who continually suggests learning German would be next to useless…has not done it, and thus has no way to know valuable or otherwise it is.
Finally, my last comments about the code. Actually, I’ll borrow Rob’s comment below:
“I agree with Anthony that you have many ways to attain the same result from a spirit teaching point of view, but surely with the code you can get there theoretically faster if you don’t ignore it.”
You don’t seem to even want to accept that much. But, given that the aim and duty of the human being is to evolve as much as possible in this life, and, given further — as I suggested in a previous post — that small things can have a big effect over the long haul… again I say, you are not doing anyone any favors by tacitly encouraging them not to learn German.
Wow. I’m long-winded. Thanks for the space Michael.
Andy,
Don’t worry, we’re just increasing your monthly dues…slightly. The increase will be in effect in next month’s bill.
Carry on.
The Management.
Do as you must, I understand. I suppose, say a 5-10% increase, on top of zero is fair. But anything more and I may have to consider taking my soap box elsewhere.
Alright, let’s keep it at 9&…then you’ve got no excuses to haul…box.
“…it appears that everyone who has gone through with learning the language agrees with me, while the only one I’ve seen who continually suggests learning German would be next to useless…”
Andy, Andy, Andy, I have not said or insinuated that German is “next to useless…” My friend, you are not seeing reality; and you need to slow down and actually read what I’m trying to say.
Consider this line again from one of my previous arguments here, ” Now if you are an affectionado of Figu literature, you might really want that outlook, and focus, and even the loveliness of the German. But if you are somebody who has a hard time getting through even one Figu book, don’t reach for another… and certainly don’t drop it to then go learn German. No, go read the book over and over and over again.”
Dear Andy, where or where is “useless?” It amazes me how all these so called German scholars still have a hard time seeing the truth.
Good luck with your studies!
Anthony,
Instead of continuing to say I “am not seeing reality,” it would probably suffice to simply say I am misunderstanding you.
But, I don’t think I’m misunderstanding you much. I read everything you wrote. Perhaps I misstated your position a bit. Let me try again:
My position: Learning German is a very valuable thing for the Meier student to do.
Your position: Learning German is probably not a very valuable thing for most Meier students to do; probably for most people its more trouble than its worth, especially considering Meier is tiresomely repetitive, and anything to be found in German has likely already be found six times in English.
As you well know, your position is not the “party line”, and that’s fine. But when Dyson says you are completely wrong here — that there is lots of valuable stuff to be mined out of the German-only texts — do you think he is lying? He’s a lot of things, I dont think liar is much one of them. So again, stop telling people roughly that it is “probably not very valuable thing to do” (this must be an accurate statement of your position alas, right?), when you in fact have NO WAY of knowing that.
Someone I know said the following:
“I’m not afraid of dying.”
“Since we’ve had, and will have many more reincarnations, it doesn’t matter.”
“If it happens I’ll just rebuild.”
To certain predictions and prophecies.
I’d like to hear everyone else’s comment on the above.
My first thought was to modify the statement slightly, ““I’m not afraid of dying. I just don’t want to be there when it happens.”
I’m not sure if I made this up or if I heard form someone else long ago. Well, it is the weekend…
Instead of studying endlessly, who don’t you all just try “thinking” about it. It might save some time and effort and be even more enlightening!
“Dyson says you are completely wrong here — that there is lots of valuable stuff to be mined out of the German-only texts — do you think he is lying?”
Andy, you are missing my entire argument. I acknowledge German is more valuable; and yes I acknowledge that there are things locked away in German. I get that, I really do. But my friend, I am not talking about this. I am talking about learning. Maybe for a scholar like you German is the answer. My friend, I am NOT a scholar. I can barely read. My entire youth was competing in a sport; I don’t even remember going to school until about 8th grade. And then I was so behind. I had to work very hard to graduate. But I did.
It has taken me a year, and I have still not finished “The Might of the Thoughts.” I have to read very slowly; and I usually read the paragraphs over and over again to really get it. This English Figu book is super challenging to me. I have a hard enough time reading in English. Do you think I should take up German and see if I understand things better in a foreign language?
I am not trying to be a Figu expert. I really am only interested in the spirit teachings and the extraterrestrial stuff. You guys can keep the rest of Figu. So all I really focus on is: What is Creation? What is religion? What is self responsibility? Why is religion harmful? What is the Law of Love? things like that. And I practice learning these simple, basic exercises everyday. This is my speed! Go learn German, leave me be!
I am a highly successful person in sports and business, I know what it takes to learn something and succeed with it. I have been doing it all my life. I could care less about the greater Figu. I have taken the BASIC ideas in Figu, and ran with it! Maybe I don’t know every last detail in the Meier case! But I am not trying to do that. You would be surprised that once you become independent and functioning with the basics, you can then figure out things without the aid of holding Billy’s hands for everything. I am being spiritual. And the BASICS of what spirituality IS ALL OVER the English Figu world. If you fail to see this: (1) You are not seeing reality or (2) You are Lying.
On that note, when it is so much of a lengthy process to learn a language, specially a super rich in vocabulary as it is the German language, provided I can’t afford to pay for college classes for a relatively fast and accurate learning, and in the same token when I’m hungry desperate to learn always more of Billy’s teachings, I’m using now the “Infamous” Google translate system, at this point to me it’s better than cero knowledge.
Sorry that I feel I have to re-iterate that the level of complexity of the language in the contact reports, and so on, necessitates a translation by a competent translator. It would literally take a lifetime for a non-German speaking person to learn the language sufficiently well to understand the nuances in the German words used. Evidently the Plejaran have a very good command of German. . . . perhaps German is one of the languages they prefer to speak at home, I don’t know. However, unless you’ve grown up in a German household, it’s inconceivable that you can understand the subtleties expressed in Billy’s writings. . . .you can work at it, indeed, with a good German-English dictionary, but you will not find some of those words even in that dictionary, and you will be very frustrated.
Anthony ,
I enjoy your participation and you made some really good points there . As I get prepared to enter my twilight years I have been thinking about learing German to do some reading into the untranslated materials and such and maybe even meet a beautifull blonde and blue eyed german speaking swiss girl 😉 . But I guess my question what do you feel is a good protocal to learn a new language ? And lastly the description of high German ,does that require a specific focus on a geographical area of study . Like for instance their are alot of different accents in the English or British dialects . Think of Ozzy and Kieth Richards .They come from the same small town and speak a certain way . They had me fooled for it seems like forever thinking they were brain dead drug casualties , but it turns out its the town they were brought up in . They all talk like that ! Its absolutely hysterical . I saw footage of Oz and Kief , when they were like sixteen in black and white and laughed for a good hour or two it was that funny ! I don’t wanna sound mean or demeaning , but its fun to me , thinking they got such a bad rap and all . Thanks again Anthony , David
Interesting
http://dream-prophecy.blogspot.com/2007/11/prophecies-of-future-war-with-russia.html
Very interesting!
Very interesting indeed.
I wonder if that would be why Ptaah said they had tried earlier with other people but had found them to be too religious?
Since there is insufficient information on the source of that prophecy for the time being, this one turned up and could be of interest to some. It did reference the author of the book where that prophecy came from.
Rob,
They say you have to let the code work for it to work. I find myself thinking about the material I have read, and find myself learning more rapid, as I go along and live my daily life, adding to my knowledge and wisdom much more now then when I just read the English, if that’s what you meant.
Corey,
It was interesting to read the responses to my inquiry from others.
I was more interested in knowing if an impulse can be consciously noticed when you speak dual languages already, one German and the other non-German on the same text. There is no confirmation you can sense it but if it were ever possible I’m conjecturing that a person who is fluent in both would be the best person to ask.
Thanks, Carolyn, for answering. Although musicality is not what I think impulse would be like, but it was good to know. It would stand to reason that since it was written in German and Billy is known to write poems, it would have some of that passed into it. Who knows, maybe the musicality is part of the code? 🙂
Lastly, I think it is equally revealing that CF said it doesn’t matter if you read it in German if you choose to ignore the impulses, or not implementing the impulsed code, something to that effect, in the QTB.
I was going to learn German (got the language software etc. etc.) and then I realized, as a dual language person already, and after all that has happened recently to a few people who I know already knows German fluently and being competent at it with the FIGU material for far longer than I can imagine mastering German personally, I probably am better off focusing on reincarnating in a German-speaking family in my next life time and finding the FIGU materials again, if the code (“impulse”) is what I’m after. (Of course, that is provided I find out how to direct my own incarnation in this lifetime before my time is up! 🙂 )
I am aware that the “sound” (vibration) is what triggers the code so even if one doesn’t understand the meaning, one can still reap the benefit …
I agree with Anthony that you have many ways to attain the same result from a spirit teaching point of view, but surely with the code you can get there theoretically faster if you don’t ignore it.
See: http://fourhourworkweek.com/2014/07/16/how-to-learn-any-language-in-record-time-and-never-forget-it/#more-12597
Thank you.
It looks like something worth trying. 🙂
In my opinion the code must be musical, as most impulses are “sound” impulses. Music is a universal language, and musicians no doubt will find it much easier to receive impulse messages than non-musicians. The impulses also will be pure energy, so no language at all is required to receive them, and most likely they will appear more like “pictures” in the mind. So clear your minds and focus on mental images coming in. . . forget about the words. If you get good at it, you can look at a brick wall somewhere and see the images moving across the wall, much like a moving picture, but only in your mind. . . . .
The most difficult thing is to clear the mind of all your own thoughts and empty it, so it is ready to receive thoughts or impulses coming from outside it. This will take some work. Just sit quietly, close your eyes, think NOTHING AT ALL and WAIT.
The other thing that is encouraged is to…observe and learn to control one’s thoughts, 24/7. This is actually far easier, and most probably beneficial, for most people than trying to think of nothing at all…during which time most people will new ordering (thinking) if they’re really not thinking of anything at all.
Part or all of your opinion may not be correct.
Michael,
What specifically you mean by “control of the thoughts”? Do we block them, push aside, remove them or just neutrally observe them 24/7?
What I do to get clear mind:
I follow each thought to a particular basic feeling from which the thought originated (I ask myself what feeling caused it: apathy, grief, fear, lust, anger, pride, courageousness, acceptance or peace). I want that feeling to show itself to me (my awareness) I notice it in the body (feel it) and then I get rid of it, with an intention to let it go, so it will not bring more garbage in the future. When I do it for extended period of time that energy sometimes starts “flowing” like a river and when it is done my mind for some period of time is completely clear and free of any thoughts.
Andrew,
Let’s start with the second part first. Actually, feelings arise from thoughts, then another thought may arise form the thought induced feeling, which may give rise to action. Other than that, it seems like you have a workable way of dealing with things. I could add that one can also be neutral about the thoughts and feelings and not be forceful in making them disappear. And it’s also a valid possibility to have the intention to “get rid of them.”
I think there are also a number of ways to control the thoughts. One does first want to see them for what they are, then choose whether to maintain and exercise them, or to create preferred thoughts once one has the awareness of them/it and can make free, independent, non-reactive, more positive thoughts, etc.
“Actually, feelings arise from thoughts”
That should be the case in a situation then we are completely free of any “collected” thought/feeling energy from the past which is trapped in the body. Lets say like with with very young child. Am I right?
“then another thought may arise form the thought induced feeling”
Can we say that for most of us adults who do carry that (induced by previous thoughts?) energy field within, some if not most of the thoughts have to come from that thought/feeling field, especially those that flow without any reason through the mind, if for example we sit on a couch and do nothing ? If not, how the mind would get quiet just by letting go of some of that trapped energy?
I’m not sure that I totally understand. But of course we’re distinguishing between feelings induced by hot, cold, pressure, pain, etc., mainly bodily sensations, etc., and feelings perhaps meaning the interpretation we give to things based on past experiences, memories, etc., and how and what we associate with them in our thoughts.
As for why thoughts may flow through the mind “without any reason”, etc., I don’t know any accurate answer, other than to suggest that the subconscious can and does operate without our conscious awareness and I think it’s correct to say may release thoughts, impulses into our conscious mind. Perhaps also that stilling ourselves gives us an opportunity to be more aware of these processes.
Meier probably explains much more in the Might of the Thoughts and the Psyche and I am just venturing my best guesses at this point.
I have not studied FIGU texts, other than what I have found translated into English, so I do not know how to properly “name” or “categorize” my experiences, so they would be understood clearly by others. English is my second language, my first is Polish, so I guess this is one of the reasons too.
Ok. I will explain in “my terms” what I mean. What I have observed in myself is an energy field running from the brain (anchored there ?) and filling whole body. It is “compressed” into muscles, intestines makes them always tense and it is painful (cause of headaches … etc.). When it “decompresses”, “dis-attaches” itself from the muscles), it sometimes changes into a “gas/mist state” that fills the body. When I remove that “mist” I can notice that thoughts stop coming for a while and my breathing improves, especially when that mist can be recognized as fear (when it is in lungs – causes coughing). When I let that energy go (want to remove it) it flows through the body (leaves by soles of feet) and it feels like waves are going through the body. When I put a word describing a psychic feeling (apathy, grief, fear … etc) in the mind, I can distinguish and feel (bands of that field energy) that are connected to that specific feeling. Each felling will have its own path in the body when looked at (felt). That energy feels solid sometimes, and when looked with concentrated mind changes itself into a swinging wave. Sometimes there a lot of those waves. It took me approx. 2 years of constant work to open my body to feel all of that.
This is what I was talking in the post above. My contention is that this field is a combination of our past thinking/feeling and experiencing. Thoughts from other’s that we absorb (TV, friends … etc.) and connected with them psychic feelings (grief, fear.. etc) and also is a source of most of our new thoughts. Even if some thoughts are not originating in that field they get “colored” with dislikes and likes coming from that field. A thought that “leaves our body” and comes back energized by the similar vibration thoughts, as mentioned in Meier’s information, has to be collected in that field in my opinion. Since that energy field is already unconsciously controlled by us (suppressed like air in a pressure cooker – validated by my own experience), we get sometimes thoughts which just flow through the mind – as this energy (old thoughts and old feelings combined) wants to live the body. My guess is that children, when young, are free of it. They collect it in time. I can see it in my own kids.
Would it be good idea to start sometime a discussion about thinking, neutral positive thoughts, etc. and share our ideas, experiences and interpretation of information from Might of the Thoughts and the Psyche ?
Thanks Michael.
Thanks Andrew, I have to leave it as your experience and perhaps other people will have more comments. But I also agree that the discussion about thinking, etc., is a good idea, which I’ve also been meaning to start but it didn’t happen yet.
So let this be the invitation to everyone and I’ll get a blog up as soon as possible too.
If you’ve never emptied your mind of all thoughts and feelings, then you don’t have a clue what I’m talking about here. . . . indeed, maybe it is a more difficult thing than humans are capable of at this time. . . .
I’m sorry, what were you saying? I was thinking about something else when you were speaking to me.
Unless the mind is completely empty it can’t possibly receive images or thoughts or a “code” from impulses emanating from elsewhere. It is too cluttered up with its own material to receive anything spiritual from another source.
I don’t think that’s completely accurate regarding the impulses, as they may be received subconsciously…as so much information actually is. And it also may not be correct to use the term “spiritual” for what is more accurately described by Meier as being “consciousness related”.
Rob,
Wish factors don’t transfer to the next incarnation.
Since I was not born into a German speaking family, and taught the language to myself, starting out reading, I was really slow, as I was having to use online dictionaries all the time, but as more time passed, and my vocabulary was built, it became easier. I still use the dictionaries all the time, but use them less then when I first started. Billy recycles terms and reuses grammer in the spiritual teaching, and I have found the spiritual teaching much easier to read then the contact reports, which contain much more advanced conversational German then the spiritual teaching books.
Corey,
Understanding the components of the universe would be helpful, namely numbers and patterns.
If you come cross something not yet translated, or translated objectionably, please share.
Anyone can tell me the name of UFOAntony?
Sure, it’s…Anthony.
Don’t look at me
It’s way too soon to see
What’s gonna be
Don’t look at me
All my life
I never knew
What I could be, what I could do
Then we were new.
Cut the crap Anthony!
Don’t hide is the motto here