This section will be for questions and (hopefully) answers to a wide range of topics pertaining to the Billy Meier UFO case and its relevance to the world we live in.
Questions on topics such as these and many others are welcome:
To be clear, I certainly won’t be the only one offering answers to the questions, as I know that there are many people who may be more knowledgeable about certain topics and information than I am. So obviously no one should hold back if they have an answer to a question posted here. Of course we’ll all do our best to check the accuracy of the answers as well and see how this approach goes.
Of course there already may be existing answers in the FIGU forum where Billy Meier answers questions almost every month.
Here is an extracted discussion from the “Rising Melanoma Rate …” thread:
http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Talmud_of_Jmmanuel_-_Laws_and_Proverbs
27. “There is no eye equal to wisdom, no darkness equal to ignorance, no power equal to the power of the spirit, and no terror equal to the poverty of consciousness.
28. “There is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than knowledge, and no other savior than the power of the spirit.
CR10 (futureofmankind translation):
17. The spirit is the wonder of all wonders, and all power emerges from it.
18. A wonder means using the spirit force in perfection.
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41. Wisdom is using the spirit force.
The other translations are a little different, but since futureofmankind is available to everyone, let’s simply stay with this version.
Curious how everyone’s own take on these lines are.
I posted this question elsewhere, then was reminded of this page.
In cr 108, Meier states about pope paul vi: “Last year, my probability calculations yielded that he would have to die this year. Now, this calculation has simply bothered me recently, which is why I tried to get more exact and more precise data, and through this, I encountered a very specific date and a very specific time. Now, I just wonder if my calculation doesn’t have any mistakes and if everything is actually right.” He then tells a Plejaran the time to the hour and second, the place, and the form of death.
I am curious to see those calculations. Has Meier shared or would he share those?
Moshe, that is a very interesting question ….
CR108 Meier appears to once again demonstrate his ability to apply kabbalistic calculations as he had previously (I did not track where, but it should not be that hard to find). It appears that these advanced numerological calculations produce very exacting information about future events, and even time of deaths, within “windows of probabilities.”
Through the various public discussions/exchanges/questions/answers to Meier over the years I’ve read, and for very obvious reason, this information cannot be made public, though informally it appears a few people have learned a few things directly from him.
Knowing that, perhaps the next near equally important question (myself included) would be “what premise that this ‘art’ rests on for it to be so exacting calculable?”
You wouldn’t happen to be studying numerology?
I’m interested in probability and statistics.
I have some questions for people who are good with calculating probabilities and statistics — personally I’m just not very good with formulas besides simple things like factorials. Numbers can really be helpful in helping people see the significance of the insignificant, and vice versa.
Will you be able to assist me in that regard Moshe? If you’re not comfortable doing it publically let MH know so I can email you the questions. I have to retrace my own database to find what they are also since they just come when something happens but never really followed up on the math part — my intuition usually get my attention. 🙂
I’d be happy to, although I don’t have an advanced degree in the field.
An advanced degree is useless on this blog, literally.
Thank you for the offer, sincerely. 🙂
It is interesting how many people like to just tell fellow persons to go “find the answer” themselves, when they themselves are often the ones to instigate a certain “claim” directly or inferentially. Somewhere along the line I think the teaching is misunderstood. Perhaps I did not understand it myself, but let’s recap in brief:
1. One is to help another human being when help is solicited. Specifically in this context, at this place (the blog), this is in the form of knowledge-sharing. Otherwise, it becomes “proselytizing.”
2. It has been said that if one does not have the full-knowledge (and therefore be able to backup the “claim” to it’s logical conclusion), one should not make the claim — or in my case, at least make it clear that is the case during the discussion.
There are other factors, but for now, perhaps others can chip in on their observations.
One way to help others is to support their self-responsiblity and capability by pointing them in the direction of the information, “answers”, etc., that they seek. Let’s remember that there are always those who do this on their own initiative and find it first themselves.
Always giving pre-digested information, even factual evidence/proof, isn’t necessarily the best way to help one develop the independence of thought, self-discovery, etc., that results from own taking the initiative and putting the pieces together for themselves.
Also consider a jury of perhaps 12 people, all of whom are presented with the same evidence, logic, argument, etc. Still they each must decide for themselves what constitutes “proof”.
G’Day MH,
I understand that Randi Winters is a profit-hungry scoundrel (http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_008), I was just wondering if I could take anything at all from or run a mile from his Billy Meier Tape 12 – Learn Meditation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FCeg0tvE_M)?
I just can’t seem to be able to get my skull around meditation as I can’t read German at present.
Regards,
Andrew Grimshaw.
Hi Andrew,
I’ve never watched that tape so I don’t know. I think if you do a search for “meditation” on http://www.theyfly.cpom it may have links to where some more info on meditation techniques are available.
Thanks Mate, I “rediscovered” the 12-Point Meditation, which will prove a good starting point.
I recall that Randy’s meditation tape is actually one of the forms of meditation that BEAM has in his meditation book — the emphasis is that he only mentioned ONE form, and I’m not certain it is the entire “form” since I did not read Billy’s meditation book myself. This is through a comparison of what I read from the English FIGU forum and comparing against what he mentioned on the tape.
Thanks Mate, I will take a look at the discussion there.
Wave genetics is the process of using resonant waves and certain electromagnetic waves to affect the genes in DNA. Russian scientists have been experimenting with wave genetics for more than 80 years. Their research has shown that wave genetics has the potential to heal any illness and dramatically extend the lifespan of certain organisms, including human beings.
http://energyfanatics.com/2015/06/06/wave-genetics-increase-energy-regrow-tissues-organs-bones-teeth/
I WONDER if this is development of Dr. Royal Rife’s work?
I WONDER if energyfanatics.com can be taken seriously, the article before the one linked above is titled: Sexual Energy: How to Alchemize It Into Spiritual Energy.
I THINK a little bit of wee came out that time. ;->
I think we’re straying off topic here.
Right you are. My apologies.
I let my unknowledge and cynicism get the better of me.
Fermi’s phony paradox:HUMAN too ARROGANT and STUPID to SOLVE `missing aliens` question
http://www.sott.net/article/297663-Fermis-phony-paradox-Humans-too-arrogant-and-stupid-to-solve-missing-aliens-question#comment131777
Another exception:
CR115-160
Thus, after your leaving of this world, you should only remain in the otherworldly area for a few years, in order, then, to step into appearance again already in the year 2075, if all the things of the determinations fit themselves together in such a way that no shifts would come about.
It is now 2015. If BEAM was to pass on this year, that would leave a window of reincarnation of the spirit form of 60 years. Anytime after this would mean less duration on the other side.
Not too long ago, BEAM replied to a question posed about the incarnation of another person, to which his reply implied the duration of stay on the other side is somehow tied to the evolutionary level of the spirit (form).
Does any one know which writing speaks about the duration of stay in the fine-matter “world,” as it specifically is tied to the evolutionary level of the spirit-form?
Hi Rob I don’t know where to find that. But it’s interesting to know that due to overpopulation the usual lived life times 1.52 years in the ether is no longer in effect. You may also want to consider that with interrupted lives (eg. death by accident), the spirit form has the ability to come back right away.
Prior to Billy’s current incarnation it has been said that he was Grigori Rasputin who died (was assassinated) on Dec. 30, 1916 at the age of 47. So if this is correct Billy spent 20 years and 35 days in the ether as a life interrupted spirit form. Or perhaps he was someone else during this time?
Thank you for the info, Sheila.
Since you mention Billy’s current incarnation with a window of 20 years + 35 days, perhaps it would be equally important to consider he was “picked out” by the P’s to reincarnate at the exact date/time to fulfill his role as a prophet. This also then implies his spirit-form wasn’t following any other rule (overpopulation, accident), unless his last death was “timed.” Maybe?
Rob, if i remember correctly then in one of the FIGU Bulletin was stated that the average time what spirit form stays in another world is about 10 to 30 years(caused by overpopulation).I do not know are these figures extending to billy`s spirit form or not.
Hi Mait,
Since a very specific year was mentioned, I’m inclined to believe that probability was already calculated as of the date of the contact report. Has the world changed that much since to shift enough to alter the reincarnation year? Only time will tell. One thing seems possible is that even if a shift does occur it probably won’t matter as his next role would not be a prophet and the exact date/time may not be as critical for some extraordinary abilities like future-vision or the heal-hands (e.g. Jmmanuel). Thoughts?
Rob,
When you consider the fact that the planet is overpopulated 16 times over normal then i think it is possible that the normal incarnation cycle is ruined.
I do not think it would be good idea to speculate about his/her next coming because it could lead as to wrong conclusions especially if we do not have any facts.
Mait,
It’s true — easy to draw the wrong conclusion. However, for such specificity to be mentioned, there is a reason … actually I just saw a list of people who is due to reincarnate back at the center with year ranges mentioned.
Something to ponder. 🙂
Rb,
Make it easy for Mait by posting a link to the doc.
It is in CR72, the same one that talked about selecting location for SSSC:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_72
Lines 20-40.
(in parenthesis is the returning “new” gender type)
2012-2025 —
2033-2036 —
Olga, Amata, Claire, Elsa — coming back as females in the above ranges.
2053-2066 Engelbert (male), Margareth (male), Herbert (male)
2065-2072 Jacobus, Marcel, Kalliope, Conrad, Hans, Paula, and Pauli, plus unknown ones (at that time) who will be meeting BEAM after the CR date.
I didn’t feel it was necessary as Mait did not seem interested about such speculations.
🙂
I think we here can all agree on of the chief problems over population causes is the utter lack and disrespect of the conscious ability of their neighbor humans to the point it is questionable whether or not Earth Humanity fully comprehends even the English meaning of words like “being” let alone trying to converse in Deutsch back and forth. If we all were more conscious day in and day out of the mess we’re in we could turn the tide but this is increasingly being pushed to the side by fantastic beliefs and thinking where Earth Humanity treats EVERYTHING in religious manner. This is with regards to almost all relationships which are tantamount to deceptive perception management with complete and utter disregard for anything remotely approaching the TRUTH where small people here and there are trampled over the Might of terrible belief driven thinking.
To sum up the above, it used to be a fallacy to say “if you build it, they will come”. However, given the era we live in, the fallacy should be said thusly as “if you believe it, all things will be fixed” … then observe folks day in and day out test one another like crossing the street while the cars have the green light to move believing the person on the other end will stop. Very risky.
Thanks Rob for that link.
It was good reading. This CR 72 reveals a bit how powerful our thoughts actually are. So we can determine our next gender, birthplace ,destiny etc.
The 10-30 years figure is interesting. For the discussion let’s say it’s correct, then subtract them from 2075 leave 2045-2065 as the potential window of “departure” if his next personality is not going to be hand-picked and it is subjected to the normal “flow” of things, but this is also assuming he is normal on the ladder of evolution.
Just for consideration, I don’t think “a few years” spoken in the context of the P’s is the same as “a few years” spoken by the average human being, given the life-expectancy time of the P’s, otherwise that would probably put BEAM time of death closer to 2060.
G’Day Rob,
I happened upon this as a result of my recent habit of clicking on Random Page over at FOM which has me re-reading at times, and I just happened to remember your question.
22. A rebirth of a spirit-conditioned person can take place again after the death of his body, so already after fractions of a second or, however, first after decades, centuries, thousands of years, or after hundreds of thousands of years.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_6
Salome.
P.S. Thanks for the well wishes for my future adventures on the farms.
Don’t these early contact just never cease to surprise you? 🙂
Now I have to go back and read what a spirit-conditioned person means.
Been working on farming myself in the extreme desert environment. 114 degrees F the last few days! 🙂
Look out because it could start to get warm down there. We had storms up here last weekend but in upper 80s now.
As if 114 F is not hot enough …
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No luck in doing hyperlink embedded titles so far.
Knock knock!
Maybe Nate can email me a list of usable hyperlink commands on this blog besides bold?
…for which he would be richly rewarded, if not in this life perhaps in the next.
California governor seeing the issue about over populatoin..http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/10/jerry-brown-worries-about-overpopulation-amid-ca-drought/
This is not a question, this is an answer.
I have, The Everything Learning German Book 2nd Edition, Might of the Thoughts, The Psyche, and Goblet of the Truth is in the mail.
When it arrives I will be off to WWOOF in my homeland, Australia.
For you who need to know, I am convinced of your conviction of your self-righteous by your condescending sanctimonious.
Goodbye and good luck.
Good luck on the farm.
I wonder how it compares to doing it here in Phoenix.
Well OK then, how’s it doin’ now?
I said Goodbye prematurely, after doing some sums it turns out that I can’t afford to venture out in to the wilderness, imagine that. And it wouldn’t have escaped a fews attention that I didn’t exactly skedaddle. I have however taken a step closer to this ziel of mine. Tomorrow I move to almost the top of a mount in the hinterland of the Queensland Sunshine Coast. (I wish I could insert a photo of the view from the poolside here)
Also the next door neighbor owns her own cleaning business and as I am a cleaner by trade I could very well generate the cashola needed for my purchasing of the required material objects that would be necessary to assure my safety and survival in the wilderness, that little bit quicker.
Salome.
PS. I, in the future, wouldn’t be able to leave you guys and gals without my pesky little 2 cents worth, anywho! ;->
Andrew get the hell out of the Sunshine Coast
The cyclone and hurricane from FNQ have drastically migrated down that area and its only going to get worse.
I still can’t understand the level of stupidity of people still purchasing waterfront homes in Mooloolaba and along the esplanade area.
Bugga, but not to worry mate, it’s only a share house I found on flatmates, I have not had much interest in amassing material wealth. I have never even looked like saving up a deposit for a mortgage (lowly cleaners wages and far removed from following the laws and recommendations, until only recently), I’ve always lived in other’s homes and contributed to their mortgage repayments or deep pockets. I only have my ute and all my worldly possessions fit snuggly in the tray, I can skedaddle in less than an hour if push comes to shove.
Salome.
Not sure if BEAM talked about practically matters like the subject below, but here it is anyway. It came up when I searched for ways to clean clothes effectively, naturally:
http://funny-about-money.com/2010/01/30/we-dont-need-no-steenking-laundry-detergent/
It goes a ways to self-reliance and sustainability.
Now that’s a good, clean find, economical and doesn’t contribute so much to water pollution.
Billy has been writing a series on spiritual teachings of which the funds go directly to him. CF has made it clear on the future of mankind site that these will never be on the internet, They are not listed on any of the FIGU shops. As the current times speed by, how many are there, how much is required to get the first to the last since they must be studied in order.Some maybe very few want very much to help and protect knowledge that should never be erased again. To many times the meek have heaped books on the funeral fires cheering the death of real knowledge.that the victorious ordained as bad.
No, as I understand it, all funds go to FIGU.
Didn’t FIGU mentioned that they made backup plans on the writings themselves as well?
Sure.
Is it just me or does it seem that some of my fellow’s feel put out by doing what will ensure the answer of: everything I could possibly do, to the question of: what did you do to ensure your and the reason you exist’s eternity? I define the reason as: Natural Responsible Love.
Feels natural to me.
I would like to replace: everything I could possibly do, with: the most basic of things.
Semjase:
58. 2. Rational life
1) Primary development of reason.
2) Effective realization of reason and its use.
3) Primary recognition and acknowledgment of higher influences.
4) Belief in higher influences without having knowledge.
5) Belief in higher powers, delusional faith, fear of evil, veneration of good, etc. Germinating time for religions, etc.
*Present stage of the average Earth human being:
*6) Primary recognition of the real reality. Stage of knowledge-related development. *Research, first spiritual insights and their use: “spiritual healing,” telepathy, etc.
7) Primary development of knowledge and wisdom.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_6
Is anyone else seeing the need of being able to get to another planet in a time shifted dimension where habitable planets are plentiful.
Exciting times ahead.
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My rambling rant. OK, I’ll dial it back a dray, if I may
If we do have to start again, a back to earlier times if you will
We will need safety, security and survival
So we’ll need shelter, sustenance and screening
A thing that can’t stop is health
Medicine of mostly preventative; and enhancement and cure
Hence we come to food; fuel, nutrition and health
Fauna and Flora and Firma
Surrender to an altruistic attraction
And we, venture into the worlds of Eduction and Environment.
Knowledge and Wisdom would rule
Naturally, Nature patiently awaits to be nature
All within us, we
Cause what we thought
If you want to look at it, that way
We need, to know how to think and how to feel and how to act
I know I have to educate me, and more
Maybe, in others acts we act and they in ours
Our acts in our nature and within nature, affects effects
Murder and Money, maintain their Marauding
Mothers may yet mount a, Mutiny
And then there’s the space travel to come in long lives…….