We have just received, and are authorized by FIGU to share, this new information from Billy Meier regarding the world situation that is creating new dangers of a possible World War III.
People who are involved in the study of the Billy Meier information may wish to pay particular attention to the following from Meier and the Plejaren. You may wish to view it as a call to action, to upgrade prioritizing your preparations for coming together and developing your communities, study groups, etc. Of course this also goes for all those people who have eyes to see and ears to hear and who wish to prepare themselves for the coming times:
According to new information regarding the Ukraine crisis, Ptaah explained to Meier that it is mainly the fault of the EU (European Union) that started the crisis, because of its having the megalomaniacal intention to annex Ukraine like a few other countries, such as Georgia, etc., in order to become bigger and bigger. And to achieve this goal the EU – as one of the first steps – has been striving for an agreement with Ukraine to a so-called association treaty for a very long time, which was eventually successful after the EU provoked a kind of coup d’état.
Now there is the very unfortunate and very violent situation between Western Ukraine, with its officially elected government, which is supported mainly by the EU, and East Ukraine, which is supported by Russia. This crisis is a threat not only for Europe but also for the entire world because it could lead to new international war, and even to WW III eventually, if the leaders in charge of both sides don’t find a comprehensive and reasonable solution for all parties.
There is a similar situation in Israel and in Palestine, where Hamas receives their “rocket weapons” from Syria. Both sides, and therefore the Israelis AND the Palestinians, are acting in a very primitive and unreasonable way, which could unfortunately easily lead to WW III, as well. Meier said that in both crises – as well as in other similar crises such as in Syria and Iraq – the responsible people are acting with a more primitive behaviour than the real primitive tribes that live in the jungles, etc. would act, in the same or similar situation.
Regarding the so called “BRICS-States”, which consists of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa (with a total population of at least 3 billion people) and the treaties they signed in July 2014, it is to say that it could and probably would be the beginning of a new world economy “order”, with especially China as the new world superpower.
The BRICS-States, as well as Argentina and Kazakhstan, both of which recently applied to become a part of this “alliance”, will probably become the new economic powerhouse in the world within the next 30 years by outperforming the Western civilizations, especially Europe and the USA. The irony of this progress is that it’s precisely the United States of America and the European Union that have mainly, but unintentionally, been initiating this ongoing process by neglecting these emerging states with the typical arrogant, bigheaded and egomaniacal attitudes of the Western civilisations against the emerging economies, especially regarding the disadvantages these states have to cope with because of being treated by the BRD (International Bank for Reconstruction and Development) and the IMF (International Monetary Fund) in the same dishonourable and unfair manner.
Due to this fact, on 15 July 2014 in Brazil, the BRICS-States therefore founded their own BRD or “World Bank” which is named as the “New Development Bank” (NDB) with the headquarters in Shanghai, China, with the purpose of acting as a counterbalance to the BRD and the IMF. This crucial foundation and other further actions in the near future will provide and support the BRICS-States and other emerging and aspiring countries to probably become the new economic and political powerhouse of the world.
David Cameron calls on Nato to rethink Russia relationship
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28619188
Those in power are not sane enough to achieve peace without wars. Close-minded folks lying to oneself and to others…
“Above all, don’t lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.”
― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov
So I guess this Billy-answer from the forum only a few months back has now been rendered null & void. That was quick! 🙁
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Creational
Dear Billy,
Hope all is well with all of you at the center and that you are enjoying great health, peace and harmony.
My question is specifically in regards to next World war.
There is no doubt that we are going to go through hardship due to overpopulation causing global warming, extreme weather, famine and the rest of issues it creates. However, my understanding is that at least for now the Third or rather Fourth World War is diverted as it was prophesied.
could you please elaborate on this issue since there is a confusion regarding this matter!
Salome with Love,
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
At the moment another WW is not in the foreground. Of course everything depends on the actions of people, but it can be expected that the persons in the specific/leading positions will be careful not to start another WW
As he said, “Of course everything depends on the actions of people…”
He also said “… but it can be expected that the persons in the specific/leading positions will be careful not to start another WW”
so who has triggered the possibility for this next WW if not “the persons in the specific/leading positions”?
A very good question indeed.
Your answer: The powerful people behind the scenes who control “the persons in the specific/leading positions”.
yes, this has been choreographed for a long time, it’s just our “leaders” don’t have the balls to stand up against them and make a stand for morale common sense. War is profit for them.
“There is a similar situation in Israel and in Palestine, where Hamas receives their “rocket weapons” from Syria. Both sides, and therefore the Israelis AND the Palestinians, are acting in a very primitive and unreasonable way, which could unfortunately easily lead to WW III, as well.”
To me, and it has been so for a very long time, the war between Islam and the Jews/Israel will be the trigger for WW3. This never-ending, extremely powerful madness is a “religious” war with both sides fighting, and dying, for their different “God”. The following is an example of the way the Palestinians think: Jews are the enemy of Allah. Islam is fighting a continuous religious war against the Jews. The killing of Jews is a religious obligation. Palestinians are the vanguard in this war against the Jews, and all Islamic nations are obligated to assist in this war.
I see no way out of this religious insanity. Keep your best eye on that situation. As I have said, the upcoming war between Israel and Iran will be the last straw, then you will see WW3 in full bloom.
Bloom of the radioactive kind? What do you see happening boss?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/08/no_author/was-malaysian-air-hit-by-a-missile-or-not/
We could prevent WW3 if we get the EU to move their headquarters from Germany to anywhere in the strip from the North Sea down to the Black Sea and get everybody in Israel to move to the Easter Islands.
Perfect. But I think the EU headquarters is/will be Brussels, no?
It was once Germany when the Nazi’s intruded in 1940-44.
Darcy,
You have a WILD imagination!
Andrew J.
This is just speculation on my part, so do not take this as my predictions.
I would expect that WW III might erupt not closer than 2029-36. I remember reading years ago in one of the prophecies (not from FIGU – and hard to know if true) that England will sink down at the time of next WW. So, what could be the cause of it if not Red Meteor as a whole, or a peace of it ?
We might have regional conflicts (Iran attacked by Israel and USA dragged into it… etc) in a not to distant future, but I think that they will not transform themselfs into a wider war quickly.
I would be more concerned with coming hyperinflation than war. It would be more prudent to go and protect any savings that one has, with real money, while the price of them are still suppressed. Since Bricks started their own Central Bank, new money backed by gold will follow at some point, but I do not think it will be abrupt (listen to Jim Willie on Youtube). Argentina just defaulted on its debt, so this may trigger derivative losses and cause chain reaction at some point?
If hyperinflation will not start by BRICKS dumping dollars in mass, maybe coming San Francisco earthquake and tsunami that will follow, will trigger crisis of confidence in the reserve currency (damage to West Cost may require huge amounts of printed out of thin air money). Cliff High at HalfPastHuman thinks, that from his data read, earthquake will happen between 2017-18. Will it be that way? Who knows.
I personnaly like what Jmmanuel said in Talmud of Jmmanuel (Chapter 25 v.9):
“People will hear about wars and treats of war, and they are to witness this but not be frightened because it must transpire, but it will not yet be end”
In my opinion, your “speculation” is not even close. Why do you think the Ps and Billy are warning us of WW3 today – 2014? Just keep an eye on the Pope, when he moves from Rome, WW3 will start, as the Henoch Prophecies state.
From the Henoch prophecies:
“France and Spain become involved with each other in armed conflicts, and that even before World War Three will have broken out.”
“Many lives will be lost during a civil war in Wales, where differences between various parties will arise before the Third World War.”
Again, “The point in time at which these prophecies will begin to be fulfilled will be when a Pope will no longer reside in Rome.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Henoch_Prophecies
Look, no one knows when WW3 will start, but looking at the world today, I don’t think it’s very far away.
Hi Tony, I think WWIII is somewhat inevitable from the likes of things. If its not this year it is most likely not to far off. The people on this world is somewhat not matured enough to contemplate what is really going or even care about the things that is occurring. Time and time again people fail to change and as a direct result innocent lives will be lost due to man’s ignorance and stupidity on Earth. For the people who do care and want change know that we did our best.
Tony,
My wild guess would be, that it is addressed mostly to people in power, who may lack the necessary foresight, to a complex situation like we have today.
One thing didn’t happen according to the Prophecies. . . . Pope Benedict XVI should have died in office. . . . so that throws the Prophecies off a bit. Currently there are actually two Popes living. . . . . Pope Benedict may actually be the smartest person alive on the face of the earth. . . .(or perhaps he read the Prophecies too, and figured out a way to circumnagivate his own predicted assassination. . . . who knows?)
Andrew J,
Interesting perspective …
Here is what I think might happen from the various studies …
If the dollar collapses or loses status as world currency, then the likely scenario would be civil war (#1 or #2 is anyone’s guess). When US has civil war, it wouldn’t surprise me if the eastern nations take advantage and start their own aggression with other small countries, as well as taking revenge on US itself, depending on how badly the fallen dollar hurt them economically at that time, as US may be too busy with its own internal turmoil to address someone else’s business, like it does right now.
From the Henoch Prophecies:
“The USA will set out against the Eastern countries ahead of all other financial states and simultaneously she will have to defend herself against the Eastern intruders.”
It is interesting to see that everyone is holding the Henoch prophecies to the letter, it seems.
It wasn’t that long ago Billy’s answer about the current popes suggest things have changed and this may not even be the “last” pope (which the prophecy also stated) if I read it correctly.
Until human beings collectively make the necessary strides, it seems unavoidable that WW3 will always be lurking around the corner just waiting for that special “cause” to come to fruition.
Lots of thanks to the P’s for bringing to our (earthlings’) attention of these probable causes so at least some of us can choose (or not) to do something about it.
Rob,
I agree with you. Here is something to consider: The prophecies have had time to sink into the consciousness of many people, including world leaders. It seems apparent that at least the Russians take Meier seriously enough. So I really think that the severity of the prophecies have been stiffled a bit by the Earth human changes for the better, albiet small changes. Plus the Peace Meditation has also contributed to the peace. I think it is ridiculous for people here to get all worked up by the latest from Billy. We are not in immediate danger right now. BUT, things could change in the medium term. I think it is wise and healthy for Meier students to live in the ‘here and now’ rather than think that ‘we are always two steps from disaster.’ Right now it is more like 10 steps in my opinion. Yes, it is smart for any squirl to store up some nuts for the winter; but at the same time it is ridiculous to live everyday like WWIII is about to break out! Give me a break people.
Realizing that there is an increasing number of human beings, every day, who are already losing their lives in what may be a prelude to a world wide conflagration, perhaps we should take a different view, one that includes both compassion for the innocent people already experiencing the destruction and not view everything solely from the “We are not in immediate danger right now” perspective.
Greetings Rob: Could you direct to the information where its said that this Pope may not the last Pope. Wow… I have been putting all my money on it that this will be the last Pope to everyone. Regarding the last Pope, was it a prophecy or a prediction.
Horn,
Since when is my opinion devoid of human commpassion? You really need to stop trying to correct me, and start actually reading what I have to say! Now people are killed in automobile accidents every bleeping day! I am not going to come on your blog and tell people that they are in immediate danger! No, I am going to be positive AND do my best to drive safely today! So yeah, I am not in any immediate danger!
Anthony,
It’s just a wee bit ironic that you complain that I’m trying “to correct” you. Go back and see all of the lengthy lectures that you gave me on how and what I choose to do and say!
Of course I don’t remember the last time that Meier put out information specifically warning people to…drive carefully.
And, obviously, everything is all about…you. I suggested that “perhaps we should take a different view…” I think you missed the “we” part.
Ben,
On 3/24/14, Billy had this to say:
“When Billy recently asked Ptaah about the prophecy regarding „the last Pope“ and the ensuing „Weltenbrand“, Ptaah said that concerning this (prophecy) many things have changed to the better and that for the the time being (vorderhand) there’s no sign that the prophecy will be fulfilled. (555th contact of March 2, 2013). ”
Realize that the key words, again, is “for the time being,” sort of like his answer about WW3 a few months ago as well. Of course, the fact remains, that “things have changed” is also key. What does this mean? To me it is clear he may not be the last pope, as I suspected when the failed assassination was mentioned in CR236, as everything stood back on 3/2/2013. However, if WW3 does break out in the midst of his papacy, then he could very well be the last pope even if he is not known as “Peter the Roman” by name in the history that follows.
Does it really matter if he is the “last?” If the question is the end of the Catholic church as a large institution of organized religion, it is really not that far off. Just look around the news and you can see the signs abound. Recent video like “The Magdalene Sisters,” “Philomena,” and BBC documentary of “Spain’s Stolen Babies” (youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJJ7Pp_Zvvs) as well as news like: http://beforeitsnews.com/celebrities/2014/07/pope-francis-found-guilty-of-child-trafficking-rape-murder-2465728.html
IMO, the question is really how the Catholic going to handle it when the blows come, like Billy has also answered in February of this year.
Correction: The last sentence says Catholic, I meant Catholic Church.
Also, please note that the fact FIGU authorizes MH to publish this translation on a “whim” so-to-speak can speak volumes in and of itself, even if you want to discount the timeliness coincidence of the release of building-your-own-pyramid information recently.
Anthony, I won’t be in MP this month so perhaps MH will be able to send you my email for private exchange. Thanks!
The US is incredibly bankrupt right now, being trillions of dollars in debt. Unlikely that it will ever be able to pull itself out of the financial hole that it has dug for itself. . . . .
War has a history of forgiving debt…
Regarding the possibility of Israel or America attacking Iran, I remember Michael Horn getting a message back in 2005, when he visited Billy Meier.
Billy told him, that if America or Israel did attack Iran, then Russia and China together would attack America.
With the BRICS alliance now cemented, that possibility is even greater today.
Hi Jason,
If you would like my opinion, I predict astrologically that Israel and Iran will go to war against each other WITHIN the next 6 years. Everyone involved knows that war would certainly lead to WW3, with China and Russia attacking the US.
“Both sides, and therefore the Israelis AND the Palestinians, are acting in a very primitive and unreasonable way, which could unfortunately easily lead to WW III, as well. Meier said that in both crises – as well as in other similar crises such as in Syria and Iraq – the responsible people are acting with a more primitive behaviour than the real primitive tribes that live in the jungles, etc. would act, in the same or similar situation.”
Some 1,650 Palestinians have been killed and more than 8,000 injured in the 26 days since the conflict started, according to the Gazan health ministry. The United Nations estimates that four-fifths of the dead were civilians. Palestinian officials say more than 300 were children. On the Israeli side, 63 soldiers and three civilians have died.
http://my.firedoglake.com/fairleft/2014/08/02/1662-palestinians-66-israelis-dead-as-obama-un-media-make-own-gaza-reality/
This horrible war is going on today, and no one on this blog is saying a word about it?
Hi Tony !! How are ya mate? ,,,,,, This is directed at the whole blog….sooooo It was my understanding that the Pope ‘s Name was changed when he was young . He was born Petrius .or his middle name or something as i recall , and he was born in Rome. Transferred to Argentina with his folks when he was young.
Please correct this information “anyone” if i have gotten this wrong.salome to all
Wayno
He was not born in Rome, but in a town somewhere in Italy, and his name was not changed. He is Italian by birth. His parents moved to Argentina, where he grew up and was educated by the Jesuits. He was a member of the Jesuit Order of priests (Society of Jesus) until he became Bishop. I do not believe he will leave Rome to live somewhere else. And the fact remains that there are two living popes in Rome today: Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI and Pope Francis.
Michael,
As you mentioned, and as you well know, I predicted in January, and at other times this year, that 2014 and 2015 had war astrologically written all over them, wars that could lead to WW3. I could post those predictions and emails, but I don’t find that necessary to do. Today, I still say, that the astrology says, that these current wars could/will lead to WW3, especially the one between Israel and Islam in Gaza.
Now, with this latest information from Billy concerning this subject, I would like to hear your opinion related to this matter. Could these wars lead to WW3? If so, do you have any indication as to when WW3 would start, etc.
Thank you.
Tony,
I think that Meier already indicated that these wars could lead to a third world war. But let’s remember that we don’t want to contribute to fulfilling such prophecies, the purpose of which in the first place is to wake us up so that we remember that it’s the might of our thoughts that creates our individual and collective lives an reality.
So to give more energy to when such a war could break out is to take the valuable might of our thoughts, and our precious time, and misdirect and waste it/them. No that we are – once again – warned, let’s finally get the message and create what we truly want…not what we fear.
Ok, not as an argument, but as a discussion – we disagree again. I know that the astrological forces are the most powerful forces, and you and others think that Human thoughts are. This disagreement will not change for a long time, I can see that. I suppose at this time there is no reason to discuss this matter any further. Perhaps in the future, Plejaren astrologers, or other advanced astrologers, would weigh in on this discussion, that would be very interesting to me, and I’m sure to you as well.
But let me say this, I think Billy’s current warning should be taken very seriously, because the astrological forces are bringing down war on this planet in a huge way right now, wars, that as Billy says, could EASILY lead to WW3.
Again, my prediction is that these wars, Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, and Israel, will continue and lead to WW3. I’m sure other astrologers would agree with me to some extant. Of course, no one wants to see WW3 take place, but I don’t concern myself with the WANTS of people. I judge the astrological forces at work, and I do it expertly. Astrology is a science, not a psychological exercise, or something that can be altered by human thoughts. Astrology is the power of Creation at work. The cosmic forces are immeasurably more powerful than human thought power.
I’ll submit the following as proof of what I’m saying, proof for those who have studied astrology, and/or have an open mind towards the subject. Again, this is what I know to be true.
Semjase said:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_009
“176.This is the initial phase of the “Golden Age”, the transition phase of 184 years.
177.The culmination of this period will come in 2028.
178.The revolutionary force of this new epoch has begun in 1844, and since then the extensive alterations on Earth rush irresistibly forward.
179.The New Age already demands its tribute, religious delusion, rapidly developing sciences, rampant crime, and wars of extirpation, characteristics of this time which can not be ignored.
180.The first half of the transition period lasted 92 years, until 1936, while the Earth felt the last of the “Age of Pisces”.
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181.Since that time, rapidly evolving events, discoveries, inventions, etc., were characteristic as for no other time.
182.This whole sun-system with all its innumerable creatures is under the CONTROL of the new age.
183.Each and everything is influenced by it, because this is a cosmic law.
184.It is to this law, to which are subject all movements of planets and all forms of life in the Universe, that the earth proceeds in the run of cosmic events since 1844, which according to evolution replaces all hitherto existing regulations not of the Creational character.
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186.The origin of this epochal change is in the radiation effect of the huge central sun around which your system circles once in 25,860 years and passes through 12 epochs within the meaning of your astrologer’s Zodiacs.
187.The Earth has already touched the outer borders of the “Golden Radiation” of the central sun, which are of the strongest and most revolutionary radiation.”
Tony,
First, nowhere in the spiritual teaching has Meier ever said that the might of the thoughts is subservient to astrological forces. Prophecies were given about the likelihood of WW III starting as far back as the 1990s. The Plejaren and Meier said that it was because of what people did (thought, felt, thought, acted) that the war kept on being pushed back, avoided, etc.
We may know that there are strong currents flowing in a certain part of a body of water. It’s up to us take that knowledge and…think how we can avoid, flow around, with or through them, and/or use them to our advantage, etc. If we think about it, we can also use and direct this powerful energy, not in aggressive war-like ways but in the direction of creating the peace that we prefer. Terms like “peaceful warrior” come to mind.
We are not at the mercy of the stars. If we were, there would be no sense in warning humankind of what could occur…if we don’t make positive course corrections. It all begins and depends on…the might of our thoughts.
As I said above, the Creational cosmic astrological forces are the strongest forces. We will not agree at this time about this Michael. Let’s move on to other concerns.
Tony,
The obvious problem you face in your certainty is that it directly contradicts the spiritual teaching that has, once again, been brought forth by the prophet for this new time.
The teaching is unambiguous, clear and direct. Humanity need not see itself as merely helpless aboard a ship at the mercy of rough waters. We have a compass, a rudder, strong oarsmen who need only choose their course and navigate their way safely to the distant shore. Certainly…
No one said when we went on this journey
everybody would make it to shore, oh
all of us had the same yearning
few of us asked to know more
now we’ve laid all our cards on the table
declared what we’ve got at the gate
and the ones who survive must be able
to salvage their love from the hazards of fate
Who will light the way who will be the light
who will light the way who will shine tonight?
Everybody on board’s getting restless
suddenly sensing the storm, oh
tempest’s a-coming to test us
while we’re hot thirsty tired an’ torn
wild waves beat an’ batter our vessel
wicked winds rip our sails apart
but our spirits refuse to be broken
and all that remains is a matter of heart
Who will light the way who will be the light
who will light the way who will shine tonight?
Is that a beacon to guide us
does it shine from a far away land
or could it just be a reflection
of all the brave hearts who have taken a stand?
Who will light the way who will be the light
who will light the way who will shine tonight?
P.S. Tony,
Please also remember that it isn’t the cosmological forces that are attacking, making war. It’s the way people use the energies that matters. Because…
There’ve been those throughout the ages
who have come here to enslave us
offering promises of power without love
and though only love can save us
it is looked for by the bravest
inside of us as well as from above
When divided into nations
we fell into desperation
forgetting there has always been enough
some believed their kind was better
but the truth will stand forever
each one of us is but a child of love
Child of love who is your mother
do you recognize each one you see
as part of your own family?
child of love sister and brother
what will it take for you and me
to be loving one another?
Now we’re sailing to the threshold
where the golden age will unfold
and the stormy seas we sail will be rough
but we’re helping one another
one with compass one with rudder
on a ship of freedom called the child of love
Child of love who is your mother
do you recognize each one you see
as part of your own family?
child of love sister and brother
what will it take for you and me
to be loving one another?
My last comment at this time related to this subject – Human freewill, and human thought power exist, and are powerful, but immeasurably less powerful than the Creational cosmic astrological forces. There is no doubt in my mind about this, and anyone who disagrees is incorrect.
Well, I guess Billy Meier stands corrected, right?
Well said Michael
What you stated above reminds me once again how much more there is left to learn for me.
I just hope that Tony Vasquez can see to it that he can also agree with me on that.
Michael,
You said:
“First, nowhere in the spiritual teaching has Meier ever said that the might of the thoughts is subservient to astrological forces.” – Nor has he said that they weren’t, as far as I know, if he did, show me.
I think what I posted above, what Semjase said about the Aquarian Age coming, and the all-powerful Creational cosmic astrological forces, should be enough to prove my point, but if it isn’t, I can give a further explanation later today.
Thank you.
All one needs to refer to is, as Billy Meier said:
“The smith of the destiny is the human being himself/herself.”
Michael,
You said:
“A “cosmic” event is one thing…individual free will on HOW we deal with events is NOT predestined.”
You’re incorrect, sometimes how you deal with it is predestined, sometimes it isn’t. But again, my point is, if something is astrologically set in stone, destined, and fated, NO AMOUNT OF HUMAN THOUGHT POWER WILL ALTER IT, OR ELIMINATE IT. Therefore, the Creational cosmic astrological forces, which are invisible, and non-measurable by today’s Earthly scientific equipment, are much stronger, and much more powerful than any amount of Human thought power. If you disagree, put it to a test. If you can, get thousands, or millions of people, to try and think the PREDICTED SF quake away. That would be impossible. Considering that millions will die and get injured in that quake, the experiment might be worthwhile, but I’m sure that it would be a waste of time failure. I think you know that too.
For those who don’t know, Semjase is: “Due to her exceptional knowledge, which far exceeds the average of her home population, she has assumed the rank of half-Jschrjsch, which means a half-queen of wisdom, or a half-goddess, as they were called earlier on earth. Having occupied herself with various matters on our planet years before taking up contact with Billy Meier on January 28, 1975, she is by far the best-oriented extraterrestrial concerning our situation on earth.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Semjase
So the point being Tony?
Tony,
There you go again with your ego-maniacal ways…….We all are wrong sometimes it doesn’t hurt to admit that you were wrong. Being wrong is apart of learning. If you go through life assuming that you know everything you’ll never understand what’s right. I have yet to see you agree with someone that disagrees with you even if they’re right. Whoever disagrees with you is non-spiritual, unintelligent or utterly incorrect at all times, at least so it seems.
Just to keep things in perspective, when the weatherman says that a storm will arrive with certainty, it doesn’t mean that we’re “fated” to get wet. Choosing to use an umbrella is one way to stay dry.
As Billy Meier said:
“The smith of the destiny is the human being himself/herself.”
So are you alluding that you and “Semjase” are somehow alike?
J. Smith,
I’ll add you to the list below.
The astrological forces aren’t just about destiny. They are about much more than that.
The term destiny means it cannot be changed or abrogated, like the predictions of the Ps and Billy. Try eliminating the coming SF quake Billy has predicted using human thought power. How many human minds trying to think it away do you think it would take, a million, ten million, 100 million? No, even if all the people in the world were applied, that SF quake predicted by the Ps would happen, because it is destined to happen. The Creational astrological forces will cause it to happen. How do you think I predicted the quake that hit China yesterday? I did it through astrological analysis. I know you don’t think I just guessed correctly, like ignorant Andy and others.
Astrology is an absolute science, like other sciences. It must be studied for years to understand it, and use it correctly. Those who have not studied it, can’t possibly understand it. So, what is destined will absolutely no doubt happen, no one, or nothing, can stop it from happening.
Again, the forecast of rain may be 100% accurate. However, since the human being is the smith of their own destiny, getting an umbrella, wearing a raincoat or…going inside prevents them from getting wet.
And also again, how human beings react, deal with and do their best to direct and control the energies helps them to determine their own lives, destiny, etc.
For instance, all of the various “forces” that were in play when a Russian military man decided to not effectively start WW III, as Meier reported, didn’t override his decision and self-responsibility.
Nowhere – NOWHERE that I know of in the spiritual teaching does Meier EVER say that such things trump the might of the thoughts in terms of how people craft and create their own lives. We aren’t just helpless pawns. And long ago something was said about it not being circumstances, but how we react to them, that determines our lives.
It’s one thing to forecast that the earth will shake, or that energies of aggression, conflict, etc., appear to be strong at a certain time. This in no way guarantees that everyone has to be killed in an earthquake and certainly not that there must be a WW III. Otherwise…why would all the prophets have warned, which was always done so that people would wake up and could alter the negative into the positive?
It’s one thing to be very familiar and adept with astrology, it’s an entirely other thing to learn and practice the spiritual teaching.
I know you do not want to hear this, but you are incorrect. Again, try stopping the coming predicted destined SF quake, it is impossible, no matter how many minds were to be applied, no matter how many prophets said that you could stop it. I think you might be confusing prophecies, which can be changed and abrogated, with destined predictions, that can’t be altered one iota. The astrological forces do create destiny and predictions that cannot be changed. They also create prophetic type of situations that can be changed.
I’m SURE you do understand me.
This is the third time we have had this discussion, and I told you we would not agree. So, let’s drop it until a later time. Thanks.
If you are addressing me, I will try one more time. Human beings are the smiths of their own lives, destinies, etc. No, if an earthquake is foretold, or warnings given as they have been by Meier, amply, to not live near shores or earthquake faults I.A. and S.F. have both – it implies that we can indeed choose to heed warnings…or not.
An earthquake and/or tsunami may not hit during one’s lifetime, or it may. Again, we have a lot to say about how cosmos forces may affect our lives. And since a world war isn’t like an earthquake in that it requires the actions and/or inactions of people in order to occur, this is still up to us as human beings. While Meier took the photos of the S.F. earthquake indeed on a very specific day and time…apparently no such specific day or time was given – nor did it occur when it possibly could have. These are very different things.
Tony,
Instead of assuming most people are incapable of understanding astrology as you have studied, it would be most helpful if you explain as you originally stated (that you are here to teach), an astrological “prediction” that does not involve free-will i.e. the earthquakes, versus one that has i.e. wars that are started by humans (which has soldiers and citizens that has the “free-will” to make changes).
Also, not answering questions about how you got specific number ranges like 20-30 thousand dead, out of power “for months” is not going to help your credibility — except when it actually happens. Sure, you’ve had years of studies but if you can’t even try to begin the explanation process, how do you profess to teach?
I am here to learn, like many others, but hearing rhetoric is not conducive to this process.
Hi Michael,
As I said, we disagree on this topic, at this time, but I will try one more time.
You said: “While Meier took the photos of the S.F. earthquake indeed on a very specific day and time…” Ok, now, we know that predicted event will occur on a specific date and time due to time travel knowledge, right? Right. So, my point is, no amount of human thought power applied, nor anything else, will stop that SF quake from happening, because it is DESTINED to happen, and at that specific date and time. Likewise, there are MANY things in our lives, and in our world, that are destined to happen, and cannot be changed one iota, no matter what, no matter who. I’m sure that you understand my explanation. We have seen many of the predictions of the Ps come true, they were destined to come true, nothing, including human thought power, could have altered them, or stopped them. They were predictions, not prophecies.
Do you think the predicted SF quake can be eliminated by any amount of thought power? No, it can’t. Likewise, all astrologically produced destined events, personal characteristics, talents, abilities, etc., cannot be altered, or eliminated, by thoughts. Some things in life are subject to freewill decisions and thought power, other things are not. That is the truth, if you disagree, there’s no need to discuss this matter at this time. Thanks
Please also see Rob’s post here. I think he’s also trying to make similar points.
As succinctly as possible: We cannot stop an earthquake (yet) but we can choose what we do, how we react, when, where and if we go elsewhere, etc., etc., etc.
A “cosmic” event is one thing…individual free will on HOW we deal with events is NOT predestined.
Rob,
I answered your question in my last post to Michael.
And with all due respect, let me make one thing very clear to you and others, none of you are my boss, or can tell me how to go about my business. I will ALWAYS do things my way, based on, and according to what I have learned in the past 35 years of practicing and teaching the correct form of astrology.
I would only attempt to teach the great and profound science of astrology in a correct classroom setting, and only to qualified, and seriously-minded students. I have taught astrology to many students. I would never attempt to teach it on a blog like this one. I think you know why.
Also, your comments about my credibility, are not appreciated. I know what I know is truth. I have developed the correct form of astrology, and time will prove it. Thanks.
I have given Michael many predictions through email lately, as they come true, I hope in all fairness, he will post them on the astro. blog. I suggest, that if you have sincere interest in me and astrology, that you go to that blog and study all of my posts first, then we can proceed. Thanks.
“Considering that millions will die and get injured in that quake, the experiment might be worthwhile…”
What, what, Tony?!? This is you wishing for the deaths of millions again? How sick are you?
Tony Vasquez – Professional Astrologer, let’s hope the current conflicts lead to the next world conflagration, that way you will have been proven correct & your 90% track record will remain in tact, which really is the important thing.
Bruce,
You and Andy, Anthony, Duke, Dyson, Shantz, Ron, Philip, Darcy and others, should not waste your time and energy sending me insulting, snide, disrespectful, no-valid-point-containing, ignorance-filled comments, because they will have no affect on me. I’m not going away, and I will continue to say whatever I feel like saying, when I feel like saying it. I will say the astrological truth, and other truths, as I recognize them. I will not attack you first, but I will defend myself against all attacks, that’s reasonable. So, I suggest that all of you stop acting so dumb, and start showing some human to human respect, and open minded intelligence, towards me and towards astrology.
Duh!
Tony Vasquez – Professional Astrologer
I have a few words of the day for you
Bescheidenheit
Arroganz
Hochmut
Überheblichkeit
Dünkel
scheinen
brüsten
aufschneiden
prahlen
I have only two words for you – VERY DUMB!
Gentlemen: Its seems like your war against Tony will not end. Lets just say that Tony is trying to promote himself here, how does it bother you guys? Yes, I did meet Tony from this blog and met up with him in person. He is a real gentleman and helped me read my family’s chart for free. Things that he read from the chart were quite interesting. Sofar two came true. The rest is yet to see…
Bottomline is, if you are not interesting in his astrology work, just ignor his chart readings. You do know that his information are from the chart. Just like Billy, his infomation are from Pjs. Just like this new Pope’s name. Its wrong. Can we call Billy a liar and so on.
It really upset me seeing people who are interesting in Billy’s teaching acting this way.
Awhile back, I was in one of the group’s email list from Scottdale’s meeting. There also, people were just fighting instead of having meaning discussions of how to help each other with spiritual growth. I kept getting emails but they were just arguments. So I asked my email address be removed.
Anyhow, please guys, stop the non-sense fighting with Tony. Lets all share great information and help each other here.
Thanks and peace to all
Actually, this isn’t the place for people to try to promote themselves. If anything the astrology blog is the best place for any such discussions on the topic.
As I have acknowledged, and largely because Tony has made rather huge claims, predictions, etc., we’re going to see how accurate his form of astrology is. I don’t think that anyone would disagree that should he have the “true form” of it there could be greater value in it. And, as has been pointed out, there’s an expiration date for certain specific events to occur, upon which he’s based his claims and reputation.
I’ll take that as a compliment, I was expecting far worse than your standard “VERY DUMB!” with cap locks & exclamation point…..
and I also must thank you for grouping me with those fine humans you mentioned above – Andy, Anthony, Duke, Dyson, Shantz, Ron, Philip, Darcy and others ..
fine company indeed! 😛
such an honor you’ve bestowed on me .. really wasn’t necessary but I thank you nevertheless … you do have your moments between the Bescheidenheitlosigkeit und ihr vor euren Mitmenschen scheinen wollt und Überheblichkeit , usw
Hoffärtig (eitel) ist auch, wer sich der Anmassung verbindet und sich auch zuviel einbildet (überheblich ist) und dadurch der Wahrheit die Ehre nimmt und seinesgleichen (Mitmenschen) verachtet.
Und wisst, es ist wohl schwer, dem Drängen eures Wesens Genüge zu tun, doch ist es nicht so sehr schwer, wie ihr denkt, wenn ihr gegenüber euch selbst Bescheidenheit und Schlichtheit walten lasst, wenn ihr euren Vernunfts- und Verstandesdünkel und euer grossspuriges Können und eure eingebildete Kraft nicht ins Spiel bringt.
Seid nicht eitel (anmassend) in dem, was ihr zu tun pflegt, denn Eitelkeit (Anmassung) ist von Nichtigkeit und von allerlei Übel, wodurch Schaden im Ansehen (Achtung) entsteht durch Eures gleichen (Mitmenschen).
It was Prescott, not Scottsdale.
Bruce, do you know what any of those German words mean?
Dear Tony Astro,
Please know that I am not trying to disrespect you or insult you. This is NOT my intention. MY INTENTION however is to stick up for the spirit teaching when religion is being spread. Promoting outside forces (astrology) as being responsible for the human being free will is NONSENSE AND RELIGIOUS.
All astrology forces do are like impulses. No different than a TV commercial. Or even like the Plejaren impulse certain scientists and such. These scientists can totally disregard (blow off) the Ps impulses and do their OWN THING. The teaching of free will is very important to understanding your responsiblity for your own thoughts, feelings and actions. YOU, my friend, with your constant astro sales pitch, are hurting all the people who are starting to learn about free will and human self responsiblity. Please, please good man, take a step back and see what you are doing!
You are TOTALLY incorrect. You have no idea of what you are talking about. Pretty close to idiotic.
@Tony Vasquez – Professional Astrologer
You are making me think really hard. I don’t know what to make of your statments. How can you know YOU are the only one knowing about the truth and upcoming events, I am part of the creation myself and It would be illogical to me not being able to alter it for the positives. (Prophecies DO NOT have to be fullfilled.)
You said in one of your comment:
“There is no doubt in my mind about this, and anyone who disagrees is incorrect.”
Isn’t that irrational? I just DON’T KNOW.
Did you went into the futur?
I am also quite convinced, now, that huge things are just “about” to happen, I myself have the feelings/intuitions that it could be a matter of day, but in reallity I really don’t know for sure, and I also hope we won’t have to suffer all of this, but how can you be so sure of things not yet happened. There is really something happening… but, can we rally instead of arguing on this blog… yes, time is pressing, even if it is in 2029 or 2036… time is still pressing have you seen the days pass by… anyway. I will read until the end, I know good stories always end well. [m.b.f.]
Tony, do you drive around in a Waffle Wagon?
Duke,
His caretaker drives him around in one of these http://1funny.com/short-bus/
You’re both laughing stocks.
What do you see in my horoscope for stocks? Does the stars tell me to buy or sell my laughing stocks?
For those interested in a non-delusion, non-fraudulent, more accurate and sober account of Tony’s predictive accuracy than he has been giving here, please see my comments here:
https://theyflyblog.com/terrestrial-astrology-science-or-superstition/01/28/2014/comment-page-10#comment-34409 .
Did anybody consider that perhaps we are living in the past, and that all these predicted things already happened, we lived through them and have experienced them. . . . . we are just revisiting a time we’ve already experienced and lived through, for a second time. If time travel is indeed possible (as the Plejaran tell us it is), what’s to stop anybody from entering into a past or a future time and living there???? So folks, WHAT
DO YOU REMEMBER about WHAT HAPPENED???
Well, you may want to consider that praying to some imaginary and/or long dead, anything but omnipotent deity is really “living in the past”.
Good thing you’re not looking at her, Michael. . . . .
Personally I think that WW3 in 2014/2015 is less likely than a civil war in U.S. during this time. I do not disagree that astrological forces may be responsible for bringing out the “war” in those that remain in the darkness of spiritual ignorance, thereby providing the spark for the inevitable further down the road however.
Tony, perhaps you can tell us when is the next “year” after 2015 that has war written all over the astrological formations. That may be interesting to know…
Let’s do the astrologically focused discussion in the appropriate blog please.
Hi Rob,
Firstly, I never said that WW3 would happen in 2014-2015, if that is what you are saying, so be careful when you quote me. I said that no one knows when WW3 will start. I did say that 2014 – 2015 have war astrologically written all over them, in other words, I would predict that horrible wars will rage on Earth during these next 18 months. Also, as Billy said, they could easily lead to WW3. I have not looked at 2016 and beyond yet.
Wasn’t quoting you Tony — when I quote I always put name(s) in my writing. People who read this blog and your astrology one in their entirety would easily inference (additionally with all the chatter and the head of this topic “Dangers of WW3”) this may be the case.
I was more addressing these other links provided by friends on this blog, like the youtube video.
Maybe this will shed some lite on why announcement NOW (look at 2 timelines):
Quote from John Hogue Nostradamus Prophecies (www.hogueprophecy.com) latest article:
”The Malaysian jet shooting is a significantly dangerous development. If this incident is used to bring more sanctions on Russia, Russia this time might respond with sanctions that will hurt the EU much harder and speed up a breakaway of a number of nations out of the US Reserve currency camp into the Russo-Chinese political-economic sphere. The Cold War will be on, and according to two timelines given by Nostradamus it either lasts 3 years and 7 months or 13 years, then turns into a Third World War that kills two thirds of the human race.”
According to Jim Willie, Germany already made a decision to breakaway from EU and to tie her commerce closer with Russia and China. Look for resignation of Angela Merkel in not too distant future (before her term is up). That move would possibly brake NATO alliance. Germany asked for her gold stored in NY, Paris and London, was denied that request and was given 7 years timeline for it to happen. Maybe to slowdown Germany’s move ?
All speculation as always. Time will tell.
Greetings: Very good discussion there.
As I understand it, with less knowledge then Michael and Tony of coursse; astrology chart is a study of the movements or positions of the stars, sun, moon and etc. The chart may show 1. world event, 2. specific life event 3. our lives event from the date and time of birth. I guess that would be cosmic astrology energy.
Creational energy is, which creates everything including the stars, sun moon and etc. Our spirit is an enegy form which is part of creational energy that is connected to our brain. The brain create thoughts which are impulses send out to the universal energy. If everyone on earth has a positive thought, there will be no war. (why is that???)
So, here is one of my experience. Tony, I think you can see it in my chart. I was told from my chart by 3 astrologists, including Tony that I will run into a girl or will involve with a girl or will have an extral marital affair. I am not sure whats going on lately, I met a girl and she is very very interested in me even though I am married. Because of the prediction i received from the astrologists, I am staying away from the female girl friend.
To share with Michael and Tony, which energy force is greater? I think they are all connected and work mysteriously. My prediction came but I had freewill to act on it. In my humble opinion, I think positive thinking has a strong influence in for future events. I agree with Michael that all of us worrying what will happen is the future is some sort of negative thinking. We must stop worrying and begin to practice positive thinking and hope that WWlll may not occure for the sake of human lifes. Remember, we don’t have to be fear of death. We will meet again and again and again. We all will never die. We may come back and buy the same house that we live in now, worked so hard to pay the mortgages and start all over with our savings, 401k and the stocks. I guess that is why Billy is not concern with eartly materials.
When we are born, we came with a personality, which is our destiny. However, we can change our destiny through the power of thought; whether it is good or bad (might of thought). So, could the event be changed from the stand point of an astrologist, the answer is no. However, could the destiny be changed, (yes) from freewill and the power of thought. (meditation). As a result of it, events will be altered which is the result of the Creational force. Our personality will change to a better one as we evolved. Then cosmic astrological energy will change too.
Please don’t be upset with my 2 cents opinion everyone. I just wanted to share my understanding and experiences. So, lets not worry and lets focus on positive. By acting upon worries, it may be bringing negative effects.(right???)
Ben,
We should remember that it’s neutral-positive thinking, which requires that we see things as they are first, then we implement the positive preferences.
Also, it’s highly unlikely that we come back to to buy the same house, for many reasons, and also “we” are never the same personality in future lives.
As for that woman who’s trying to mess with your marriage, I may have to look into this. Feel free to email me name, email, phone number and…any pics. I’m just here to serve, of course.
Hehe
Threesome cum me too foursome?
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Greetings again: Let me add that Creational energy is neutral. Comic energy is the result of cause and effect.
That comic energy thing may explain a few things about me.
Hello Michael: I am happy to hear that you would help out. I will send you the picture to your phone. haha. So whats up with this Pope thing. He won’t be the last one now???
I’ll leave the pope question to someone else who may know more.
I barely know how to use my cell phone to even make calls…as you know.
I am also hear to serve of course
Great! There’s a table of eight, due in tonight. Pretty good tippers too and…it’s all yours.
I’ll take a Comedy of Errors over a Tragedy of Errors any day of the week!
greetings guys: I don’t know how to upload a picture here. sorry
Neither do I.
Time will tell you, and you will tell me.
What a heated discussion, can it just be stated that despite cosmic influences it is the human being through the might of thought that really makes things happen? prophecies can change which means that certain signs in the Henoch prophecies won’t happen or the time table has changed, they are not predictions like the SF quake
It actually happens…every day and every moment, depending on the decisions that people make, the might of their thoughts.
Indeed Michael, when looking at the bigger picture we human beings create the future
Exactly. It can help to know influences, conditions, etc., but…it’s still up to us.
I will give you an explanation, and example, tonight, or tomorrow, that might help you understand the truth about this subject.
Wow… I really am in the big leagues.
Prediction comes true….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi5jH0xu3tM
February 9, 1976. from the Petale level:
“…So also the great, yellow dragon lurks in the East,
who mortared his giant wall through the lands.
He striveth for the life of the cultish world,
and throughout this soon a terror cry shrills,
when murdering he breaks the world of the West,
to destroy everything which was erected best.
The red sickle and the yellow dragon both
secretly armed already themselves for the blow,
to break in burning and destroying everywhere,
by foot, on water, on horse and with jet-sound.”
The Petale level warnings are now as clear as a prediction to my reasoning abilities. A clear and present danger that needs to be dealt with intelligently.
Dear Terry Carch,
Hello fellow Star Trek fan. I just returned from the Creation Star Trek Convention this weekend in Las Vegas. There must have been nearly 10,000 other people there to celebrate extraterrestrials, space travel, time travel, the universe, peace among all beings. These events would be perfect venues to spread the word about Billy Meier and the Plejaren. Figu could be getting booths in the vendor halls and selling photos, books, DVDs… and otherwise inform the people about the “greatest story in human history.”
If MH really wants to reach out to MASSES of people, FIGU should be setting up at Star Trek Conventions. Forget UFO conventions AND UFO people (hey you MH). UFO people are too closed minded and usually have their own agendas. Star Trek convensions are “where it is at,” if Figu are looking for people who are highly interested in ETs, space travel, time travel, peace, unity, other worlds, the planet Earth, etc.
Hi Anthony, that actually might be a good idea. I think the only way for BEAM/Plejaren/Figu and the mission to succeed is a well thought-out marketing strategy (and at the same time not to create another religion on Earth) and hitting home with these sort of conventions may do the trick.
BEAM me up, Scotty??
(Couldn’t resist!) 🙂
Eheh!
Anthony,
The thing about Star Trek is that its fantasy. Which means that those Star Trek lovers would not only have to change their perceptions of all things E.T, but also all things in reality if they want to realize the Truth. Not saying that it can’t work, but I’m sure when the convention is over those people have to step right back into reality and they might have their own beliefs about what they think life is about and changing that will probably be just as hard as those in the “UFO Community”.
I prefer the “UFO Community” even though they’re belief oriented and “stubborn as a mule”, I think the message will be received much better coming from there than people at the fantasy based Star Trek conventions.
One of the main things I dislike is that mainstream science seems to know nothing about the Meier case or just don’t care even though they corroborate his information every chance they get. These are the people that need to realize that this case exist because when all the believing stops all of the World will turn to science for answers. Surely the Meier material can help them with many of those answers.
I have to agree with J. here for the most part. The people I’ve interacted with that were heavily into Star Trek and other science fiction were mainly into the fiction aspect of it. While Star Trek may well have been one of the (no pun intended) vehicles for getting humanity more primed for the extraterrestrial reality – and actually, ironically much better, more valuable content than anything in the UFOCI – it does seem that a lot of the Trekkies just wanted to dress up as their favorite characters from the show.
Certainly this doesn’t apply to all of them but I never felt that hanging out with science fiction fans was going to be productive. Many are just as incapable of letting the truth in as the UFOCI.
It is about numbers Mikey. I’ve been to numerous UFO conventions and numerous sci-fi conventions. The UFO convention will draw a 1/10 of the people Star Trek conventions do. I came to the Meier case from Star Trek. THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE ME AT THESE CONVENTIONS. Stop being so closed minded and superior. If I came to Meier from Trek, well then others may do the same!!!!!
So now I’m “closed minded and superior” because my experience is different than yours?
So, while I said, “Certainly this doesn’t apply to all of them…” perhaps, as someone who””s actually far more familiar with the people at “THESE CONVENTIONS”, you’ll introduce us to them or vice versa.
I hate facial hair. I am more into cloths. I would never have a long, Duck Dynasty, ZZ Top beard like Billy. It looks good on him. But I would imagine he would get lots of bugs stuck in his beard when he would ride his moped. Not to mention scrambled eggs in the morning. Forget the beard thing. I opt out!
Okay, if no one objects, I hereby grant you the silver suit exemption.
I imagine that it is easier de-bug and clean the eggs off of than the beard…which I never encouraged anyone to wear in those situations!
Curious Anthony … how did you find Meier through Trek? Admitted I’m a ST fan but not a Trekkie … never been to a Trekkie convention, but still curious.
“…probably just as hard as the UFO community.” Yep, but there are lots, and lots, and lots more people to reach. Star Trek people are generally educated, concerned about humanity, concerned about the planet and habor peace. Go for it Figu. Give it a try!!! I will PAY for the first booth!!!!!
Now you’re (doin’ more than) talkin'”!
When’s, and where’s, the next convention?
“Doing more than talking?”
How do you KNOW what I DO?
Okay then, I’ll get the booth you provide the booth display and the products. AND yes, I am working the booth. Maybe other people here would like to go?
How can anyone know what you do…if we’re only familiar with what you say?
When and where is the next show, etc.?
http://fanexpocanada.com/fan-expo-guests/
Is that actually Star Trek convention? Looks like it will be more of a circus.
http://www.creationent.com/calendar.htm
You have actual NASA astronauts that have been involved. Dr. Peter Weller (aka Buckaroo Bonzai, Robocop) spoke in the lecture hall. His theme was history, since he is a history professor.
“Circus?” You mean like a UFO convention? Or the Figu forum? Or like this bleeping blog? Yeah, it’s a circus and I’m looking to work with tight rope, sword swollowing, lion tamers? Anybody game?
Have you confirmed the availability of the booth, etc.?
In my case, I always love to participate but the costs could be a problem.
BTW, on this blog – as you SHOULD know – we don’t dress up like the Plejaren, etc., except perhaps for wearing false beards, which even the…men may sometimes do.
Please Michael, look at the link I gave you. Then you can access vendor tables. The big events are the Star Trek shows like the one that just happened in Vegas. Tables are relatively cheap, $500 for the weekend. All you need it a credit card and you can book a table! The next show that might be good is the SF show in December. Except you need a CA sales tax licence to do CA. Vegas shows are easier and better for me. I say we plan for next year. YOU, just show up with Meier display, photos, books, DVDs and FREE pamphlets (I will donate toward that too). This is a SURE THING! I would love to work this with other people here. Who wants to go?
PS- If I want to wear a silver space jacket and dress like an alien that is my business. Stop being so bleeping square.
Please let me know if/when/where you confirm having a booth/table. We can proceed from there.
However, how you dress in public is your business. I am referring to the dress code here, on the blog, where I thought we all agreed to not wear silver suits and only go so far as the beards. Didn’t you sign off on that too?
This could be interesting. I’d be interested in going to the next Vegas one if MH is also there, making it a multi-purpose trip. Let me know if funding is an issue.
Hello Anthony, I am not sure anyone or everyone is able to cope with all of this without going crazy or insane and also making the difference between fiction and reality. That’s my humble opinion, even if most of these star-trek fan people are very open minded it does’nt mean they will understand it’s true meaning. It’s very different, and I’m not so sure the goal is to reach MASSES, because if the good majority of the people reached do not understand correctly what this is all about, I personally see negative impact on the population, we have to teach them… one at a time.. oh what a task :/
Maxime,
Just a thought that …
There are enough foundational parallels in the ST story to BEAM’s CR, it really would surprise me if a “Trekkie” would have a hard time resolving the differences on their own after reading the CRs. It won’t take long before one discovers the Spirit Teaching when studying the BEAM story.
“When the student is ready, the teacher will be there.”
I totally agree, the UFO community is up to something else, they can’t understand what’s the real reason about the Billy Meier case. They are not really up to the spirituality of the case, and from my personal opinion they don’t wanna know either. They look to me like dreamers who want to be told a bed time story.
World War 3 will begin on 28th August 2014. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEOdruhzw_4
Oh please…
Truly.
Hi Mike, when are you doing the next Peace Meditation and do you need to start on time with the other billions of humans to be effective?
Check my site and/or futureofmankind for more details. It’s the first and third weekends of the month.
Michael: about the peace meditation I have a question, on Saturdays is there one or two instances of meditation?
I think that there are two.
i dont know what to say… i think contacting you on the mail and having one on one conversation is much better than going through such torturous ego laden conversations….. phewww… may there be peace … may there be happiness…SALOME
Welcome to Earth.