We here, awake as we may think we are, still carry on about “the world” with all its woes and inhumanities but all too often only as an intellectual exercise
Before I had the opportunity to view a powerful film, To Light a Candle, I had already titled my upcoming presentation at Barnes & Noble “Helpless or Fearless?” After seeing the film I had an even greater sense of the meaning of those words.
I’ve been enjoying interacting with members of the Baha’i faith in Flagstaff over the past couple of months. I’ve found the people to be very family and community oriented, decent and loving, etc. They have regular monthly meetings, called firesides, at a local coffee house and I drop in for those too whenever possible. While I knew a little bit about their faith, and that they were a persecuted minority in Iran, I hadn’t delved into it before seeing the film.
At the screening of the film I had the opportunity to also meet Manziar, Ruhollah and Bijan, three men involved in the production of the film, and/or Baha’i education through BIHE, the institution set up for higher education for Baha’is, necessitated by the persecution of professors, students, families, etc.
Without wanting to discuss the merits and/or shortcomings of the religion, etc., I’m bringing this to everyone’s attention because of how little may otherwise be known about the inhuman and inhumane persecution of the Baha’is by the fundamentalist Islamic degenerates, the mullahs, etc., in Iran, who of course are kin to the murderous IS, etc.
One certainly doesn’t have to believe in any religion, philosophy, etc., to recognize and be appalled by how a group of people – demonstrably, infinitely more intelligent and civilized than their persecutors – are being savaged by these dregs of humankind. Because the majority of Americans (and many other people) have no personal experience with, let alone real awareness of, such things watching this film and having the chance to interact with people such as Manziar, Ruhollah and Bijan was very eye opening.
These people were remarkably composed, with a quiet, dignity and kindness that bespoke the triumph of inner strength, determination and perseverance and having endured great misery at the hands of what are supposedly members of our same human race. It must also be realized that they do come from an actual long enduring, rich…culture, something that is ridiculously absent here and made all the more apparent when in the presence of people who embody some of its refined elements.
I also bring this to your attention because to a great degree we here, awake as we may think we are, still carry on about “the world” with all its woes and inhumanities but all too often only as an intellectual exercise, not realizing that these horrible things really are going on…now. The persecution of the Baha’i doesn’t seem to have attracted the attention, outrage and activism on the part of any celebrity champions, such as the people of Tibet and the Dalai Lama does, so it hasn’t become a trendy cause to give lip service to (while being unaware of the less glamorous realities of the DL).
I Don’t Respect Your Beliefs
Make no mistake about it, there is plenty of pro and con information about the Baha’i faith itself, much of which, one could safely bet, many of its adherents may be quite unaware of. But as I said to Bijan in our conversation, “I don’t respect your beliefs…and I hope you feel the same way about mine. I do respect good values and people who not only espouse but actually live them.” And I felt that I was truly with good people that evening.
I had planned to do a whole blog on this but this is as good an opportunity as any to elaborate just a little on that point. Beliefs by definition are not truths. Many beliefs that people get all dopey and precious about are not only absurd, as they pertain to various imaginary gods, saviors, saints, angels, heaven, hell, etc., etc., but they’re not even original to the believer. Add to that that they are subject to change and, well, it’s simply a waste of time to get hung up “respecting” them.
What am I supposed to do about all the delusional beliefs you had before you converted to your new set of beleifs, which I had really gone well out of my way to accommodate? Right. So don’t expect respect for that stuff. And, as I said, please apply that same standard to anything resembling beliefs on my part.
All that being said, what I did and do respect in these people who have religious beliefs that I certainly don’t share, is that they conduct themselves in ways that seem to engender love, peace, freedom and harmony, some of the same values and cornerstones inherent in the spiritual teaching. In fact, while they may not be entirely fearless in fearful conditions, they certainly are courageous.
In a world almost otherwise devoid of such qualities, that’s good enough for me.
An Important Request
I am going to be presenting “The Spiritual Teaching: The Reason for the Billy Meier UFO Contacts”, at the Alien Cosmic Expo, and at a FIGU Canada presentation, both in the Toronto area in late June.
The airfare is almost $1,000 and thankfully I’ve received some donations already. Any contributions are greatly appreciated. They can be sent to michael@theyfly.com through PayPal, using the “Sending money to family and friends” option.
The organizers of the event hadn’t heard of the Meier case, or me, and had already booked all the speakers they had budgeted for. Once I had gotten in touch, with them and they delved into the information I sent them, they extended the offer for me to speak there and changed their schedule to accommodate my presentation. I’ll also be making a free presentation at the Susan Smith Library, in Toronto, with my friends at FIGU Canada.
Pro and con on the Baha’i faith:
I don’t know what to say, religion is a massive topic. How to break it down so it makes any sense, in regards to what religion came from. Meiers material states the “Benefactors” who brought us here became afraid after awhile, gave us religion so we would fight ourselves and not them, and then, they left. We are barbaric. Out of 10,000 years we had 250 years of peace. Digging into religion, all religions, I have always arrive at Luciferianism, if you don’t know what that is study it. Now, this is my observation, after 40 years of voodoo and religion, it’s simply stated on a very complex subject. Their seems to be a contract (spiritual, sub-conscious whatever) that if you accept Jesus, the bad juju can circle you but not touch you. So you get stuck on an island of faith, after dedicating your life to Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad (peace be with him), whoever— so the wrath of the devil does not posses and/or descend upon you. I have come to think that people live in faith(religion) out of fear and will even commit suicide to stay on the right side of god. So, how do you deal with this? The person has to want to know, otherwise, your wasting your time. Zombies – who are the real zombies? What is a zombie – someone on Prozac, a Mormon who’s faith numbs critical thinking, or a catholic steeped in witchcraft. People are hypnotized and lightly terrorized (media presenting death, crime and mayhem) to movies like World War Z with mass killings. Why do we traumatize ourselves so much? So we stay in religion – trauma plays a role keeping people in religion. FOR THE MOST PART people in churches really don’t know what is taught or positions their church stands on, they go for fellowship, love, and a common purpose. Statistically 1/3 is hard core and 1/3 are whatever and 1/3 never go – in a church that baptizes or saves or whatever. Now, Muslims may be different, you go or get a head shot in times square at noon while traffic is stopped to watch. That goes on every week in the middle east. Look, religions are ALL negative, they negate the spirit of man/women and subjugates him/her to a concept, that only empowers the leader(s). This is a deep topic, one to be reflected individually. Each must find there own answers, I am only stating what I have observed.
Well, I like plain speaking and plainly worded things that everyone could understand. I really do like that about Mike’s blogs and here in this one he has this gem:
“What am I supposed to do about all the delusional beliefs you had before you converted to your new set of beleifs, which I had really gone well out of my way to accommodate? Right. So don’t expect respect for that stuff. And, as I said, please apply that same standard to anything resembling beliefs on my part.”
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So when it comes to the topic of “Luci-feral-ghoulism”, I prefer to make it a bit more interesting and giving the full English translation of such things. Then you get a more plain understanding of the words and make better conclusions than getting worked up on funny sounding and fear inducing labels. Same with Illulminuttii which just plainly means “light – born”. After all NATI or NATO means born as well in aye-talian. Much like Alpha-and-Omega is “AXO” (AHO) as can plainly be spelled out on the dollar bill. Also, 3 sigmas make a ssssssss sound like a snake.
All just plain stuff.
But the con-piracy folks don’t make things dry and intelligent so that it can be digested and understood. Much like they forget the Book of Revelations is a Greek book, written by a Greek author, talking about Greek things and mentions specifically Greek religious nuttiness. But, you wouldn’t get that if you don’t make any effort to look up things in Greek. So, it then becomes “GREEK TO ME” as aptly that time honored phrase Shakespeare had coined so intelligently when talking about the Romans. That’s one gem of a line there that means a lot more than what it says.
Rather, being worked up on terminology that intentionally is meant to convey foreignness is merely fear mongering at its finest. So, Space Fortress Babylon 5000 Mystery religion and all other Mysteries are just Earth Human folks trying to make something out of what normally is just ordinary stuff sound more scary by using very foreign or exotic ways of saying things if anyone bothered to do their own research. This is what makes the UFOGI folks, as Mike has called them, as they use the whole UFO subject to empty yourself of your own sanity and wallet thanks to folks like Susie the Dragon-IRS-Slayer-Agent.
Of course, AXO comes from “Doing as one wishes” or rather “permission” in the GREEK language (not some pretend magician from the late 19 century into the 20th century that met failians).
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/kjv/eao.html
so its’ E-AO where alpha and omega together is said as AXO. Of course, X in greek is the proper way to say “H” in English.
Michael I just read your blog and I found it to be very interesting. Tere are some members of my other organization who are from Iran,I`v know people from Iran a long time age who were/are of the Jewish faith of which I am. Some of theses people who are Jewish fled Iran yers ago and are now American citizens. I know one couple from Iaran who are athets and don`t belive in a god as I don`t ether who are from my other organization.There are Arabs in this organization wespac wh have escaped being persecute and kill be theses fanatical terrorist who are membeers of wespac. The flip side of the coin is in Russia. Russia is such a huge country much bigger than the US. Not all Russians are of the Russian Orthadox Church. Some are even atheist Mihial Giorbachev the former president of Russia is an aetheist. The point is what my father taught me when he was alive is to love and respect other peoples beiefs which inlcudes religion even if you and I don`t believe in religion and a god. I always believe in peace,love,kindness and respect for others which to me as what II call mindfulness of others even if you don`t understand them or agree with them. I believe you have to respect them even if you don`t go along with them in their ideas and religious faith. That is their right and free will just as you and I as human beings have free will. That is what being a human being is all about. We humans are not perfect but learning to understand one another and respect one another is what is what living is all about otherwise we might as well all have been dead eons ago.It`s called coping and getting along with one another whether Christian,Muslam, Jewish,Black,White, Hispanish,North American Indian,Chinese etc.It`s the joy in other cultures and beliefes that mke the Earth and the Universes go round and around. After all what are we here for , to LEARN from one another etc.
ON another note one friend who is a member of Anda Marga asked me to go with her to a weekly meditation call Darma Shaka where we sing and dance what is called a Kurtan and then meditate. Another case is my favorite ballet dancer who is a devout Orthadox Russian even though I love her ballet style etc. In both cases I DOIN`T agree with them or go along with their beiefs I just go along with them out of respect of their belifs and custms even if I DON`T like it. As my mother used say,that`s what makes horse-racing.;)
I watched a UFO playing with lightning bolts and I found the truth in the Meier Material contact reports that it is the Americans who come here into Canada and experiment with this new weapon invention that in my opinion has yet a long time more before they perfect it because I see that they are still using the Ben Franklin kite and string trick/plasma string trick is what they were using nowadays.
That`s theUSA government trying to fool the rest of earth humanity in believing there are no ETS out there. Like climate deniers so the US government are also ET deniers too. Go figure. This also includes the Plejaren Federation. These thugs in government and the military are trying to distract your attention away from the REAL issue of the good friendly spiritual people like the people from the Plejaren Federation and their friends and allies etc.This is called a ruse,a distraction etc. “Do`t let those fools egg you on with their lights in the sky nonsence deception etc. Theses fools will do ANYTHING to get your attention AWAY from the REAL issue. Drones are NOT UFOs”!
They were in a flying saucer Terry and they must have beamed a hologram at me when they seen me watching them because it was a picture of a parasite UFO flying towards me then it vanished before it got too close. This sighting was back in think around 2004.
The drones are more modern day and yes Terry they probably use the drones to hover over a target in order to aim the lighting bolt to make the weapon work because they could use the drone shoot a plasma string into cloud to cloud lighting in order to create a strong positive charged lighting bolt to strike the target and it is safer for them because drones don’t have people on board.
I find myself, now, it a tricky situation with “most” of the people in my life because of their beliefs in all kinds of things, I have known some of these people for a very long time, they are good people, kind people, loving people. If I was to slam into their world saying “Hey, there are these spiritual teachings that are just awesome from an ancient being called Nokodemion, Nokodemion was the first incarnated personality of the same spirit-form that currently inhabits the human being alive today known as Billy Meier, a one armed farmer in Switzerland, and has also been in communication with extraterrestrials called Plejarens (no they are not the Pleiadians but this name was used for awhile so the people of Earth could relate to the information) from the planet Erra which is located a fraction of a second from our dimension in their own dimension, 80 years beyond the star cluster we know as the Pleiades and the discussions are fascinating, profound information about how we, human beings of Earth, can create a better place to live and love” – I would lose them and I guess I am not really to lose them, at least not yet but I am slowly putting things out there and it is some really wise stuff and I am getting some good feedback…. but I am being more cowardly than I would like.
Your not being cowardly, your being reasonable. Its like with any knowledge really, we dont always want to hear stuff if its not at the right time and place. I’m the same as you, l enjoy open honesty with everything, my family likes that too (and probably your family is the same). Just settle as I did for the fact that they’ll never quite be interested in getting right into the information with you at a personal interest level, but its the same with any hobby or study etc, we dont always want to know everything. But you could go as far as to present your position as a believer in life on other worlds, that is a safe distance, a pleasant line in the sand and eventually after a few years your family sort of just accepts that you go much further than most with startrek without diminishing the general relationships. Unless ofcourse they are open to complicated ideas, but that is the same for any interpersonal relationship 🙂
Ah well, being reasonable does not seem very reasonable in this day and age, this is where the proficiencies come in handy. The trend is now to put forth solutions to the problems, to align ourselves with the teachings, to be an instrument of a change the world has never seen but we all know “time” is not on our side, so to appeal to the mass delusional state most people are in it is the happenings of the world “in everyone’s face” would seem to me to be the best route and this is what Michael has been trying to do, to shock the world with the dire circumstances we are in. Some people think that religion is fading, maybe a little but not enough as yet as I see it; some think that the mess we are in is the fault of the Plejarens, thinking they should have known how it would be and should have done something, like a God, and this coming from a person who is trying like anything to understand the CR. To address how I am putting it out into the world I relate things, these days, of the more spiritual side but then again I have noticed that even in this endeavor there are elements of the spiritual teachings that are true in the religions, because as we know the teachings were screwed around to fit a system to screw and control people, so people only see this element and think ah yes that is true because that’s what it said in the believe system I so lovingly hold on to but…..and it’s a big BUT, they really don’t think through what is written because if they did they would see that it is entirely different. I will have to admit that there is a small part of me that holds off fully disclosing the Meier mission and my alignment with it in the hopes that dishing out bits will slowly wean others into a more non-delusional state of being, thus the cowardly remark.
Scientists can almost predictively plot all kinds of factors about human extraterrestrial life on other worlds. Without UFO’s spaceships or beamship stories, without alien abduction pictures. All by looking exclusively at the natural laws. What makes us different (the people who read CR’s) is that we can go even further than that, and explain about things in the ‘creative’-natural laws.
The plejaren are doing the best they can to help us, while following the intergalactic code/law which protects evolving worlds (so no direct ‘conceivable’ help or assistance). Go through the CRs at your own pace, dont let anyone rush you through that and dont let anyone sway your judgement making abilities. I would rather be communicating with someone who arrives at a bad verdict than someone who does not make their own judgement at all. Also remember that the translations sometimes have mistakes in the english versions and all that extra stuff, sometimes its worth double checking with what has been explained.
I cannot go through it with you unless we have extracts to talk about, you dont have to talk to anyone about anything you read on the internet in your own time if you dont want to, same is still true for all subjects 🙂 only when your ready or want to speak about it
EV, Don`t worry yourself about what others think,let them think for themselves if that is what they want to believe. We are human beings with free will. We need to think for ourselves and not others. As MH put it so. “We need to change ourselves before we can change others and the rest of this world.
Guys,You are aware that there is NO religion. NO god(s) AND nO bible NOT even a cross to attest to. no saints,sinners etc,etc,etc! These are ALL FALSE belief brought by past NEGATIVE jishwihes such as the Bafah etc if you remember reading from Billy`s past CR of the history of Earth milions and bilions of years ago and has STILL left the people of Earth STILL tromatize in the steep history of a god,relion,bibles etc. After all theses milienias ago,yoou would think by now the people of Earth would have learned and evoled. “Why in living hell are we STILL stuck in such trivial and tribal falacies to say nothing of WARMONGERING?”
My point is “we are DE-EVOLVING NOT EVOLVING”!
Because this is planet Earth.
The fatal seductive attraction of the weight of thoughts from the ages that preceded us. The best we can hope for is that ‘we’ [in this time] start doing things better somehow, so that our descendants might enjoy that. This is evolution, unfortunately, and why we are talking about the spiritual sciences, the creative natural laws, this is why 🙂 – the perspective gets all that bigger when we realise those facts of the laws of nature.
Terry I think you mean degenerating instead because evolution has no contrary.
Amen to that, Ev! I mean, er, my sentiments exactly.
Sentiment is very general in meaning, however Amen is said after a prayer and is so on to be, and so on and so on and so on. The meaning of praying is to talk to your own conciousness conscience like exercise and or stimulation because what else do you use a concious person for but to talk to it.
Forgot s in conscious and conscious also out ranks conscience too.
What does anyone think about the two distinctive styles of living and being (there are more obviously)
The conservative, private, reserved, averse to change, innovation and holding to traditional values. Concealment, secretive, concerned, well learned, judgement, top down leadership.
The openly, obvious, all is on the table, everythings out in the open; health, political stance, opinions, sexual relationships, ideological beliefs, what is unknown, love, open compassion, honest, not closed, unlocked, unbolted, unlatched, unfastened, unbarred, unsecured; Insecurities are open to criticism.
There is combination styles too obviously. There are bi-products of the two, those that want to spray their bodies with fragrances, the various bodily fluids habits loudness health, professionalism, academic achievement, various industries stem respectively, television, health, beauty, fitness, tourism, university research excellence indicators, competency, etc etc etc.
What does anyone think 🙂
Hello Daniel,
This seems to break down a lot within age. As each generation seems to hold hard to its norms and traditions, very generally writing.
It seems as our earth created culture’s focuses more on seeing, thinking about, understanding all these other people rather than truly ourselves. So in an odd way it is interesting on top of all the rest that we have created this glorification and focus on what everyone else is doing…. as long as we say and do the right things that correspond to their thoughts, feelings, actions. The ridiculous heard mentality that shuns the ‘outcasts’.
This seems to stem in some ways from the ‘boob tube’ in my opinion, here in the States. This rather clever contraption is replicable to delirium in my continuing thoughts.
I would have to say as Michael has pointed out it is more than time to fall back within ourselves, and take the actions within our lives, by the reins.
Phantasmagoria has been something hard to shake and my entire life I have been in the presence of countless t.v.’s and there precious cable/satellite connections. It seems if nothing within the ‘human’ life defines them more than their thoughts, this machine tv, produces the complete opposite of personal thoughts! The ability to comprehend and understand oneself is lost in front of these rechid contraptions. All these stupid religious induced shows about zombies and vampires amongst the rest makes me want to more than ever rebel against this system of a definite in ‘profiling’ our fellow ‘humans’.
For the first time in my life very soon I will be tv less. Well, I guess the thing will still be on the wall but I am cutting all service to it and my daughters time, as well as mine will focus on more important things. Being alive and free within ourselves.
For me at least, I will no longer care if my fellow ‘humans’ have the comfort of not having to do anything if they don’t want to but stare at the tv when they enter my house. Now they can just stare at the wall and think about it all. I am sure I will be profiled and part of the ‘outcast’ group I have been happily apart of all along:)
It wont be easy to live without the thing but got to take the first steps for myself, and no one else!
Some interesting things you’ve said there. I know what your saying about age, quite interesting, I suppose your really talking about evolution in that context. I think a whole range of different people is absolutely normal really 🙂 but still worth exploring I would say, its as you say though, as a way of finding ourselves, but also eachother at the same time. If you think about it religion has had everyone in a collective suspended state for a very long time, its probably overdue that we do find ourselves and eachother as you say which is also probably linked into why television is so popular actually, haha, we need role models, and people who can teach us well and at top quality lessons level, apparently.
Good news about the TV disappearing, so many wonderful things to do around the local area, instead of TV, even if its just watering a tomato plant while yawning loudly that is surely better than hearing some person on tv talk nonsense over and over again in a special format. You are right, and I agree, and I dont think you’ll regret it. Talking with people online, we cant type into a book or get feedback from like minded individuals half way across the planet I suppose like we can on the internet, you could still do that, still looking at a screen, but I suppose there must be some compromise.
Have you ever researched all the things they used to do to entertain themselves in the 18th – 17th centuries, without electricity, beautifully lighted roads at night, cars etc. Lots of interesting things actually, but these were usually quite bright individuals who someone had that pre-initiative, I suppose this is where the idea of ‘trends’ first came from, and regional accents etc
Good to hear from you Philip
Good points and there is a lot more productive things to do than sit in front of the tv! I really don’t watch tv, never have, and rare for me to get caught up in shows, series, etc, etc, etc. It actually has always been kinda a waste of money, amongst other things to keep it in standing order, the 150$ payed a month. Though have my daughter half the time and my ex-girlfriend moving out soon, is a better time than ever for me to make the long over due change!
To prescribe to the doings of all those around me, will be one of two others within my immediate family to banish its payable service. Which puts me within under ten% of those within my family living without the ‘boob tube’.
As odd as it is, it does seem the internet is a whole different beast. Though I am not controlled by the constant ‘itch’ of a dumb phone just yet, it has always been an initiative to limit my time online as well. Hence I don’t always interact though try and keep a healthy update on happenings. Which like many things can be excessive at times.
With spring in the air it is great to get my hands into the dirt, ones again. I always do 2 or 3 different vegetable gardens, as well as perennials, always a good way to relax for me:)
Just have to work on relaxing, keeping a smile on my face, getting my feet on the ground, and letting out some of that bowled up noise trapped deep within my vocals. So simple in words….. yet so hard within actions. One baby step at a time for me it is!
Hey Philip another question different topic. You seem like the kind of man that is compassionate. What do you think about what is currently going on in china to feed the west (most of the world that is), the bastardisation of every and any possible value imaginable?
Many people find the chinese pop bands incredibly funny, and I suppose we can laugh for a few moments, but when we get serious and adult again about what is going on, we in the west have given these people all these knowledge and competency standards and now they feel like they have to meet those agreements somehow and its basically destroying everything.
BEAM always talks about europe and america, but as far as I am concerned the chinese are developing some quite serious problems, I suppose its like anything, if we ignore it, it sort of just goes away, on that note I guess we’d be better off not listening to BEAM at all. Just making a point.
Some interesting things you’ve said there. I know what your saying about age, quite interesting, I suppose your really talking about evolution in that context. I think a whole range of different people is absolutely normal really 🙂 but still worth exploring I would say, its as you say though, as a way of finding ourselves, but also eachother at the same time. If you think about it religion has had everyone in a collective suspended state for a very long time, its probably overdue that we do find ourselves and eachother as you say which is also probably linked into why television is so popular actually, haha, we need role models, and people who can teach us well and at top quality lessons level, apparently.
Good news about the TV disappearing, so many wonderful things to do around the local area, instead of TV, even if its just watering a tomato plant while yawning loudly that is surely better than hearing some person on tv talk nonsense over and over again in a special format. You are right, and I agree, and I dont think you’ll regret it. Talking with people online, we cant type into a book or get feedback from like minded individuals half way across the planet I suppose like we can on the internet, you could still do that, still looking at a screen, but I suppose there must be some compromise.
Have you ever researched all the things they used to do to entertain themselves in the 18th – 17th centuries, without electricity, beautifully lighted roads at night, cars etc. Lots of interesting things actually, but these were usually quite bright individuals who somehow had that pre-initiative, I suppose this is where the idea of ‘trends’ first came from, and regional accents etc
Good to hear from you Philip
“In [his book] Hidden Truth/Forbidden Knowledge, Steven Greer firmly criticizes religious interpretations of spiritual things, while simultaneously including his own religious interpretations in his presentation of his personal ET-related experiences, etc. He explains that he and his wife are adherents of the Baha’i religion who believe in the essential unity of all faiths and the unity of humanity. Baha’i devotees embrace the dogma that all the founders of the world’s great religions have been direct manifestations of “God” and agents of a progressive divine plan for the education of the human race. Meanwhile Greer’s mesmerizing so-called guided meditation, which he uses for his “Ambassador to the Universe” programs describe to his trainees the presence of “extraterrestrial beings, celestial beings, the great Prophets, and the enlightened ones…” (p323). Being reunited with deceased loved-ones is part of the cosmology on offer. (p.308)”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/disclosureIsrael.htm
Greer appears to eschew the truth because he believes that the next TRUE prophet (exclusively of ET origin, like their old Bafath one) won’t appear again for a thousand years or so, according to their dogma, so Billy is obviously a charlatan or at best religiously deluded, and to be avoided as such. Brilliant. :-/
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Hello Dyson, my theory about that is Steven Greer has received a warm welcome, a wholesome greeting, from millions of people all with incredibly different, sometimes radical views, interesting yet sometime confusing views. And its probably driven him a little bit nuts truth be told.
What do we do about those that allow themselves to be deceived?
Many things fly in the night sky my friend. It’s up to us as individuals to put it all into perspective. It’s often easier to “demonize” others when we ourselves remain ignorant. I do not put much attention into Mr. Greer any more, but the issue still remains, well out there in terms of sightings. It is what it is seemingly. Let’s all loosen up a bit and on an occasion, look up in the night sky. It is often quite beautiful and full of wonders. 🙂 After all, our future lies directly above and all around us. You may be surprised what a quiet moment outside can produce.
I’m more inclined based on how things have occurred to suggest that Mr. Greer was “guided” himself or CHOSE this (or allow as Daniel also suggested as another possibility) and not so much popularity disease famous Hollywood types get. More over, Dyson politely just scratched the surface of this and said a lot in a few words. I can say from my own pass at this, I really can’t find disagreement with that given how his ET view is mixed in quite heavily with what he does. If you dig deeper a lot of things will add up … going to the wrong direction of course which will show the facade behind the gilded UFO cage like his membership in AO-A and the Medical oath of doing as one wills so long as Apollo is OK with it.
I am, of course, talking about a fairly recent CR that expressly exposed how the Bafath created actual military and civil witnesses to becoming “contactees”. SO, it takes a much finer grasp to basically observe and question why the direction is going the way it goes rather than merely enjoy the UFO light show ride.
So, you have to when going through these fairly common experience trips that snare unsuspecting people to have a stop point in mind and consciously review what exactly they just went through before. This is where the conspiracy folks and the UFO folks merge heads and are of one body and also things get more interesting when you start to make better connections. The most obvious of which you should notice is when certain questions unmistakeably DON’T get asked that any other person that has put considerable conscious effort into something DO run into time and time again.
For example, the 3rd Reich’s occultist mysterious are numerous as well as their ultra hidden elite and their technology. But, NONE of the main con-piracy folks ever ask why Hitler or the crowd around him would chant “Hail Sun” over and over again like a broken record. That’s what Sig, or Sol or Sun, IS that is being hailed in a form of a salutation. Why EVEN bother in the 20th century do something as boring as Hail the Sun in some religious fever when centuries ago a few folks refused to look at a telescope to even dare question the Sun? More over, the Eagle carry a double Sig in a circle unmistakeably has also been represented as Theta in GREEK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sowil%C5%8D#Armanen_Runes
An Obelisk in a circle looks like one of the representations of Theta as does the X’s or crosses in a circle do. Of course, the folks in the third Reich took the “good luck” charm of the sun and put that in the circle which may seem innovative but it’s more of same for the most part. They didn’t invent it, it was more of a statement.
We as men know that we can nip anything in the bud and stop it or at least control the outcome by saying something, unless of course we become interested in seeing what happens if the [whatever it is] thing runs its course. So ‘Allowing’ does become a factor, – thats an idea I took from BEAM btw if you didnt know.
Folks allow lots of things in their everyday activities. For example, EA-O (ea-ho), or AE-O (ae-oh) can be masked in such attention grabbing as “Hey Yo” (A-YO) just has that Empire State of Mind as Jaz-Y Hop-hips about and says ‘long live the king yo’. Or, maybe the trans-like song by the Brangles about AEgyptians going ‘oh ouai oh’. Then there is the AOA. Too many to count!
So, it’s best to spend some time and understand the thoughts and thinking and take self responsibility for them. Even for those things we came across and heard to the sound of music which permeates our consciousness.
It is often times dangerous for us to over think it. Sometimes it is often necessary to allow things to simply sink in. Intellectual dissection is favourable to a point. Humans simply need to devise a way to either alter their physical nervous systems or alter the DNA sequences that control nervous system development in order to properly innervate with the fine side of existence. It’s that simple, yet that complicated. Our physiology is one of the main deterrents to understanding that which is needed most, hence either time or understanding is required.
Good question Daniel.
It is true that we only realistically if were being honest, have so many options in life, we cannot for example be in two places at the same time. But we can make various choices within the whole thing.
@Dyson, brilliant share. Thanks mate. Any chance you are on LinkedIn?
What is truly needed here is a simple “classroom” environment where these teachings can be introduced in a neutral way. Upon completion of the introductory material, then people can upon accurate and logical evaluation move onto the more advanced topics. This would of course require a teacher with experience, wisdom, and knowledge and those are nearly non-existent right now. The whole process could be very orderly, yet passive in every regard. This is what we require. While reading “(The revival (stimulation) of the consciousness through the Spiritual teachings.)” the other morning it really hit me:
“Have you once decided, then continue unswervingly and align everything in you to develop true unfolding. Your doubts and uncertainties are the products of the still prevailing (predominant) ignorance of your consciousness, which through the insight (understanding) of the truth, gradually will be clarified and resolved. Recognize it and give your doubts and uncertainties no attention whatsoever, but only pay attention in a concentrative way to the knowledge and wisdom alone. Understand: your consciousness, in which you harbor your daily thoughts and feelings and from which you create the resulting events and experiences, is only a value of the external, the brain, is fertilized through the might of the internal and is adapted (tuned in) to the learning and sensing of the creative-natural values, laws and commandments of the Creation.”
It seems like such a simple set of ideas, yet it often seems to elude me in everyday life when I work, but I am getting better. I hope it isn’t too terribly hard for us to learn, we seem to desperately need peace of mind. We also need each other, going alone is often difficult. Understanding your fellow Humans is always a challenge when we can barely understand ourselves and who we really are.
What makes all of this so difficult is how effective the men in black have been at forcing even brilliant people like Horn to resort to faith to reinforce support of Meier. It really comes down to our faith in Meier and the Plejarans because of the combo of plausible deniability and men in black. It’s hard not to get frustrated.
First, the men in black are apparently a long gone, non-issue. Secondly, there is zero “faith” involved or necessary in order to support Meier and the case.
My own article, from years ago, certainly makes that clear:
http://www.theyfly.com/The_Fatal_Flaws.html
Plausible deniability has been specifically dismissed by Meier as any intentional strategy, one that would of course only make the already monumentally difficult task of penetrating the thick-headed, politically and religiously “faithful” who are still CENTURIES away from learning how to think.
And with the abundance of evidence, including several new, independent photo analyses and the ever continuing corroborations of his prophetic information, the reverse would in fact be true:
That people would have to resort to illogical things like faith to concoct contrary explanations, in defiance of the truth.
I do suggest a continued delving into the content of the case for broadening and deepening your understanding of this most remarkable material.
Those are good points.
Why is men in black a non-issue? They interfered with some of the best evidence that the Plejarans ever provided. Regarding plausible deniability, I got that concept from reading your writings. Is there a specific contact where the Plejarens dismissed the concept?
I have to agree that its a hard enough task getting things through to the average guy! Men in black creating false photos and the Plejarans keeping the window of deniability open would only add to the difficulty. Kudos to your for continuing to fight the good fight! And I appreciate the suggestion to keep delving!
The men in black haven’t been an issue for several years, to the best of my knowledge. At this point, far more damage is done by the UFO community and industry and of course the ongoing suppressive efforts of secret serves, religions, etc.
I haven’t really written much if anything about pausible deniability; it was a concept that the late James Deardorff seemed found of.
I think Meier had once again dismissed plausible deniability in an answer on the FIGU forum not too long ago.I suggest you use the search engine on this blog or my site for any terms that interest you and then see what material exists.
Happy delving!
I’ll check it out, thanks. I first heard about the plausible deniability concept in two articles on this site from September, 2011. Good to hear men in black are no longer interfering! Those guys wreaked havoc.
“First, the men in black are apparently a long gone, non-issue.”
You mean the MiB’s who were extraterrestrial wannabe Meier-assassins from a splinter group of our ancient enemies from Sirius – not the terrestrial MiB’s who work for the military industrial complex and participate in the free-energy/antigravity/electromedicine technology coverup by monstering UFO witnesses, etc., as described in the Disclosure Project Witness Testimony, which has absolutely NICHTS to do with Greer’s subsequent CSETI derailment.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/DPBDRosin.htm
Usually, there’s a counterfeit everything. Like the two different “Small Greys”, as one example. One type being the real ET, the other type being the fake ET. Cunning.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meiersb34.htm
Salome
Your a knowledgeable man Dyson Devine. Its because you actually look into the subjects isnt it, dispassionately too, it probably seems straight forward, you’ve been able to solve very much more than the average person. Its because you have the conviction to find not just any answer but the right answer, or not bother, I’m guessing.
and……it’s Peace Meditation this weekend, everyone probably knows this but I thought I would put it out there anyway. 🙂
Saturday, April 18th:
Eastern – 1:30-1:50PM & 3:00-3:20PM
Central – 12:30-12:50PM & 2:00-2:20PM
Mountain – 11:30-11:50AM & 1:00-1:20PM
Pacific (& Arizona) – 10:30-10:50AM & 12:00-12:20PM
Hawaii – 7:30-7:50AM & 9:00-9:20AM
Sunday, April 19th:
Eastern – 3:00-3:20PM
Central – 2:00-2:20PM
Mountain – 1:00-1:20PM
Pacific (& Arizona) – 12:00-12:20PM
Hawaii – 9:00-9:20AM
Also, I apologize for overstating the case about faith being needed. It’s just that things like that arrow thing with the iceman end up coming down to belief that Meier wouldn’t have said he had that conversation with the Plejaran if he didn’t. At the end of the day, it comes down to our faith that he wouldn’t make that stuff up, based on our belief in his honesty.
Instead of belief, we can use rational, logical, deductive thinking that includes consideration of his known character, the means, motive and opportunity that would have to be proved in order to show that he falsified anything.
Unfortunately, the proponents of theories that Meier back dated information can’t meet the logical, evidence based thinking requirements. They substitute theories that are not only unsubstantiated but which in themselves would necessitate the dismissal of the voluminous evidence of his honesty and authenticity.
The arrow and Iceman issue is one such example that has been floated by inexperienced parties who don’t realize that such things would throw the entirety of Meier’s documentation into question…but the actual evidence supports its consistency, accuracy and authenticity over decades of time. Armchair experts won’t get too far, other than making their little blip on the radar, which fades once the logical standards are applied.
I can’t disagree with you there! The religious will likely reply that their belief systems have reams of evidence (miracles, etc.) but they don’t have specific predictions or the same kinds of photos.
The only way any of us got here (to understanding anything about stuff) was by setting out with the conviction aim to answer questions we had, and we knew that we would have to exhaust many texts from many authors to get there. We knew that the kinds of answers we were looking for would not be ready answerable because we knew that our questions were complicated. And thats basically why all the BEAM information is presented so beautifully now in 2015 for anyone really if they’re looking for it, to access it.
Many books to even answer simple questions if there in the complicated fringe sciences Fence sitter, so you’re probably not going to get a comprehensive answer easily unless you read the books and contact reports – I suppose that makes sense.
You are no fence sitter because I watched a lot of old western shows and still do because they made soooo many western movies in the 50’s till now.
Gosh damn.
Darcy,
I’m not going to post a bunch of videos when the topic is calling for more serious consideration.
Why not Mike?
I am a logical being who has power?
Cult world can be gaseous.
My mission is the protection of the great mission in the lesser and the greater.
Nobody/material form can hinder my power.
Well at least someone knows what they are doing, no one in all my years has stlll ever answered my question how anyone in the whole world could ever possibly know they have anything to do with what the plejaren are doing, some have been so confused about that question that they have not even understood why I was asking it.
Please reread the blog and see if the answer is there.
I had a debate with a Baha’i once, they’re rare people, the only one I’ve ever met, and this one was an older grandmother aged woman, a good mother I imagine, reasonable woman.
She explained all kinds of stuff to me about, I listened, wasn’t rude, all the time thinking this is cult religious non-sense which could be more easily summarised or was fundamentally wrong (given what I’ve learnt from BEAM). And it basically came down to to me asking whether if it was as she said it was then why then where was the need for the wrapper it was placed in. I think the question shocked her a little bit, the way I framed it, a revelation of an idea.
Look I think these people just feel like they need a religion of some kind or another, community and grouping. And to be fair scientists, mathematicians and engineers have their own language and culture, I suppose this is technically speaking their relegeon if were being clear about it. Its just in our human nature or something to want to fit neatly into the universe somehow.
But yeah, incredibly damaging to young people especially.
that’s a great experience meeting people with a real inner strength and modesty in behavior,very much in contrast to the trendy and external appearance focused pseudo-culture much of the western and westernized world indulges in.
Absolutely so. I am grateful to also find people where we have enough “overlaps” in our values that there is a good sense of fellowship and appreciation for each other. It’s very much in contrast to the prevailing trends here.
i’m grateful as well. we can benefit much from their ways. people of this character are like an endangered species.
I’m quite sure she would have opened to all the BEAM ideas had I expressed them over a longer time and many discussions. I agree, she basically made her own way didnt she, and that is valuable actually as you say vincentg 🙂 I seem to wander into these rare kinds of people a lot more now comparatively since I went that much further and understood BEAMs ideas.
I dont know if you can relate to this on some level, but I sort of get a feeling (perception) when someone is either voluntarily limited, or quite interesting, if you can relate to that 🙂 it usually spurs on an interesting conversation if I sense the person will accommodate it
It is true that I like to see how some of BEAM’s specific teachings goes down; from time to time as and when I can embed an idea beautifully into the subject of conversation, – a treat apparently, usually it opens up a vista of new ideas for people, and what I learnt is, it does that specifically because thats the subject that they want to know about, are learning about, cant quite get there, and so I suppose a little bit of perception is playing its hand in that situation too. I go to all sorts of social gatherings of various different types, all types of people, regularly, weekly or whatever, and obviously I have to keep my mouth shut about anything like that in order to gain access, but have found that people will indeed accept and go quite a long way to the full truth, if its framed beautifully, they want to know, its the right time, all the different signals point toward the opportunity to be a minority in earth humanity for a few brief moments with that person, right on the fringe of what is socially acceptable, but only if all those pre-requisites are in place. Probably why I can write so much online so quickly huh, without all those social agreements preventing anything.
But anyway, look, this is why I know that evolution cannot be undermined actually.