You can watch the full Q & A from “The Resonance” below, or at this link, where I answer questions from the perspective of the Billy Meier UFO case.
The Billy Meier UFO contacts — singularly authentic — ongoing for 80 years — the key to our future survival
Terry, It is rather puzzling that you would find the the video hard to watch and follow, when it is you that spread the false idea that the US government and other governments are doing business with “evil” ETs.
In all fairness, the info in question seems to be right up your alley.
No jakobus. It`s just from what I read and heard over many years but my point is that there are so many OTHER universes that there must be one that has very benevolent good ET`s that may even be spiritually and technically far more advance enough beyond the Ps that could find good and better alternatives that might just save this world from going downhill into oblivion i.e. WW4(WW3) with this ISIS/ISIL gang. The Ps have said there are far more universes besides the DERN and DALUniverse. After all Billy`s pat incarnation is really from the Lashon Energy Beings from the Lyran Universe,so there might be GOOD beings who would be willing to step in and fix this 2 year old baby world called Earth that REF– — — USES to stop playing war games and dirting up the envornment and not heeding the warning signs that the Ps and Billy are predicting etc. After all the Plejarens have said there are races who ARE far more advanced than them spiritually and technologically who are far older and far more benign. We NEED stop behaving like two year olds and star to climb out of the crib and learn to learn and explore more if we want to avoid a nuclear war! We need to see what`s out there in the Great Cosmic Ocean!
Man oh man you got me fired up Michael.
I was expecting an encore on your second response but you showed a little more self restraint.
I derived a wicked satisfaction seeing the floor crumble beneath their feet by you setting the tone early and placating somewhat what would otherwise have become a full blown fairy tale fest.
A little bit of anger in the right dose does wonders for straightening out the little kids running amok with their hyperactive imaginations and you did good old man.
Just a word of caution next time look up when you get a little frustrated from hearing the proverbial drivel when you are on skype otherwise people might panic by confusing your shiny head for a faceless shapeshifting ET ready to do some deep probing.
On another note it looked like for an akward moment Jason was about to quitt.
Thanks Matt. That head dipping thing was a not so subtle attempt to say “Rent this space” for future events. But I should’ve thought about that ET thing.
Bloody idiots
Which part of ‘our future survival depends on it’ don’t they understand.
It made my blood boil a little.
These zombified, brain calcified, moronified, stupified, idiot of an audience couldn’t string together some semblance of an intelligent question who should’ve directed most of their questions to you .
I mean I’ve seen my share of freak shows in my life time but it really does take two to tango and not all but these kinds of audience do continue to abeit the nonsense spewed by the charlatans and profiteers on that stage instead of calling them out for what they truly are.
I’ve had just as much problem with watching these silent dumb down audience as I had with the rest of your presenters like Greer, the educator and Quitt.
Those who clapped hard after your answer, well them excluding of course.
Ah yes, we feel each other’s pain.
P.S. Jakobus,This is called “SURVIVAL” not ruination and death from WW4! This world is deranged as it is!:(((
Terry, Paul Hellyer is wrong about not fighting IS. Please realize that he’s been deceived by Timothy Good and his crap. Billy has stated the ONLY way to fight IS is with international peace fighting troops. There is no other way.
Yeah, you know something’s wrong when a grown and supposedly mature man is more worried about “Reptilians” and promoting his “personal relationship with God”.
No doubt. He thinks his guide, mentor, corrector is a god outside himself. When is he going to realize that it’s actually his own material consciousness?
If Timothy Goods name was actually Timothy Evil, which side would he be on? The side that makes him the most money.
Hey guys, Just got an idea. Why not send Obama,and all the rest of those guys in D.C. Billy`s idea for 300,000 peace keeping forces from all over the world to stop ISIS. If Putin is listening why isn`t Obama? Mabey if we send all this information to this president who seems to be the only one not taking Billy`s advice about the 300,000 peace keeping forces. Don`t forget to tell Obama etc that this is NOT NATO which is NOT a peace keeping force.
Terry yes we did back then when Billy spoke about it, now the White House put out a new open forum for Climate change, for you and anyone that may be interested in sending a comment this is the link:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/11/24/follow-along-global-agreement-act-climate?utm_source=snapshot&utm_medium=email&utm_content=11302015-blog
Hi Sheila how are ya
The $64K question I would like answered is how could a man who has served in a very very important position in government as a Defence Minister allow himself to be deceived by so BS I’ll never know.
Gosh did any tragic events happen under his watch in Canada while he served?
It just boggles the mind Ismael this God that Love this without himself knowing exactly what they are.
Well intentioned he may be he is also part of the problem.
You don’t have to post this. People like Wendell Stevens, Randolph Winters, Erich von Däniken attracted a lot of interest and had great success. The idea is to attract great success, not condemn those who just don’t know. The best way I can put this is, as a LDS Missionary some time ago, I was interviewed by the press, I said – “We are the only true church, all others are not” – the mission president called me and told me I was correct and that was all, I felt he was a little disappointed. Well, as we walked the streets in that town people threw things at me as I walked down the street – I ruined the relations with the people and all doors were shut to us. Well, in this world you can worship dog poop and get followers, no one cares if its true or not – the basic issue is everyone is looking outside themselves – I then started having discussions with people instead of making statements and it helped people I talked with a lot. Then, I learned to bring in a positive awareness of them, a concern for them, and the doors opened back up. So, what is to be learned here – that calling out groups publicly is really wrong. It creates a huge set back for the Meier material, yes your right, yes your wrong – don’t be the only guy in the room who is right:)
I’ve found no progress in pretending that the naked emperors actually have clothes on. UFO groups are among the biggest obstacles, deniers, disinformers, etc. of the truth. I find it best to show them for what they are so that those sincere people seeking the truth aren’t continually misled by the kinds of people who sat on the stage presenting their fantasies and delusions and outright disinformation.
The funny thing is that it’s so much easier, less confrontational and positive to present to people such as students in classrooms who will actually ask intelligent questions, not believe everything just because some “expert” is telling them to and who therefore just may have a chance at moving in the right direction without wasting their time and their lives involved with such things as MUFON, SETI, etc.
And there’s a large difference between having personal discussions and…presenting a lecture, etc.
Michael Horn is the delivery messenger for Billy Meier .for humanity
and below is an excerpt from this link
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/OM_-_The_Book_of_Books_-_The_Book_of_Truth
And the JHWH is a human of knowledge in wisdom, and so is the prophet, to whom would be revealed, by the JHWH every now and then, the instructions in word and text that he has to further give to, and with which he must instruct, the humankind with whom he is associated.
P.S. If Putin is listening why isn`t Obama about the 300,000 peace Keeping forces from around the world to get rid of isis?
If the condemnation is just and reasonable, then I see nothing wrong with it. The truth will always sound harsh in an environment of ignorance. Plus, it’s great entertainment!
I’ll bite. Dr Lana Marconi claims that truth does not exist in the 4th dimension. We know that truth exists in all dimensions. Sandra Zyrzakis says we should be using our feelings instead of thoughts. Wouldn’t that reverse our current evolution? Nothing like going backwards.
I almost couldn’t restrain myself when I heard that dopey feelings first message. Yikes.
It was painful to watch & hear Michael. The fact is you seem to have left an impression there as the “contrarian” in the crowd, which may be a good thing. We have few friends in any established organization and it seems you are spot on (+1 w you) that students are the way tp go! Bravo to your courage and tenacious perseverance – an untiring thrust towards the truth, with the truth! Stay strong MH and put another notch on the bedpost mate! Cheers to all, Arie
Thanks Arie, another advantage of being there on screen was eliminating the risk of dodging flying tomatoes.
Wow now I know one truth about the 4th dimension…it’s safe from tomatoes.
At least temporarily.
Seems to me MH You`r the only DNA while the rest of those know-it-all are RNA(Dumb-down religious) RNA run amok yikes Thank MH at least you got your head on strait while the rest of those RNAs have turned into religious slithering spewing mouths,what else is new?:-))) couldn’t follow them for anything anyway. Oh well keep plugging away MH.HIgh Five and Fist bump to you.:-)))
What I think we are seeing is the beginning of the new church and religion. I can see that they were ready for worship. Those on stage ( with the exception of MH ) are ready to lead their flock. So they are behaving as leaders into the new world. I have been seeing this more and more. In fact, last night I heard some chuckle head call in to C2C and go on about. How his et contact was Jesus. I can see why Billy’s friends do not want to meet with us. I think we ( those that need no more convincing of Billy and friends ) should start to pitch in. MH has done most of the hard stuff in terms of the usa and beyond. He is not a preacher of ufology like those on the world stage with him. Interesting puzzle box we have here on earth. You need the truth to solve it. That’s a big key to turn, like the rubber tree and the ant. MH are those that agree with billys case willing to be interviewed? I know you have looked very hard. It’s time to stop trying to speak with nut jobs. These are the very people that give the whole issue of ufo’s, the tinfoil look. Salome Robert.
Robert,
SO far none of the recognized scientists will step forward, even if they know the Meier case is authentic. This is why I worked hard to make my first presentation at NAU and hoefullyt more to come.
Dear Figu Switzerland, Core Group,
It is obvious that MH has good intentions; but his lack of balance is turning people off. “Lights in the sky,” or an interest in advanced spacecraft is a worthwhile pursuit despite the constant mocking by your representative. Certainly, the spiritual teaching is paramount to the Billy Meier case, as it is a means to help mankind learn how to be human beings. And of course the study of flying objects, whether identified or not, is much farther down the line, as a material concern. But to come off as some grumpy old codger who blasphemes chasing lights in the sky; and instead, I presume MH’s intention is to get them to drop EVERYTHING and become a Billy Meier supporter. It takes years for the average individual to see the value in Meier. Yet you come off fire and brimstone and expect folks to take you seriously, when most of the subject matter is highly controversial and takes some time to think through.
Instead Figu should be embracing UFOs like it says in their bleeping name; and the message, to be balanced and FAIR to the people, should be something more like, “Although UFOs are a fascinating subject, and fun to learn about the future of human transportation and our scope of technology, the greater human endeavor should be to ask the very important questions: Where are we from? Where are we going? What is the meaning of life?” Does God or the Devil really exist? etc.; what is truly amazing is that the Billy Meier case answers life’s most important questions and people should check it out.”
But instead you have your representative going off like some holy roller lecturer, who knows better than all the rest, about how his UFO case is right and your UFO case is wrong. Agreed, most of Ufology is nonsense; but this is NOT because of the subject matter of studying advanced flying craft; BUT rather the irresponsibility of individuals who choose to live completely in the material with NO spiritual concerns. So stop beating up on the study of UFOs, flying discs, flying saucers, anti-gravity, lights in the sky, and instead encourage these people to go further with their minds. You Figu phony experts think that by spouting off a few words of truth by Billy Meier that this will magically turn the world around for the better. Good luck with that.
Anthony if as you say you are so concerned about the world and the spiritual teachings instead of focusing on what Michael does bad why not focus on your own efforts to do what is right by taking responsibility for your own actions.
Why feel victimized and offended by what Michael says about people who chase lights in the sky when Michael is free to say, do and think as he pleases just as the light chasers in their great number have continued to excercise theirs by chasing lights in the sky for all these decades without getting anywhere and on top of that went out of their way to demean and assassinate Billy’s character.
Are you on the side of right or are you on the side of wrong because frankly while the world is on third world fire going down the drain with famine, terrorism, on the brink of WW4, misery, destitution, corruption, environmental catastrophe, overpopulation, natural disasters, death and so much destruction you have the gall to defend morons who can’t even tell the different between fantasy from reality who by the virtue of their gullibility and deliberate disinformation campaign have suppressed the most important story in human history ever denied.
If people even had a half a brain they’ll get their priorities straightened out by siding with and for the truth and the truth tellers.
Right now its not hard to tell where your priorities lay and frankly I can’t tell the difference between the moronic imbeciles who chase lights in the sky and you who defend them.
So will you be for the truth or will you be against it as there is no half way about it.
Matt Lee, Excellent response. I couldn’t have said it better myself!!!!
Mr Lee,
Keep changing diapers and it will eventually come to you.
Cheers!
Anthony
You may want to keep in mind that when you become very old and incapable of making it to the bathroom, someone may be changing your diapers. Do you think that they will come to the same cognition that you hope Matt finds?
Hi Sheila,
Yes we are all still learning. And yes, I too, have a lot to learn.
Cheers!
I think until you put YOURSELF out there and take the darts being thrown at MH on a daily basis over years of work, you will NEVER understand why he is the way he is and comes off as he does. I have videos on Overpopulation on Youtube and routinely talk about OP on forums every chance I get and you wouldn’t believe what people have said to me, threatened me with, etc… Multiply that by 1000 for MH.
From experience, most people don’t listen until you rattle their thoughts. Once rattled it starts the thinking process and the path to truth.
Question? Why are so many people so delusional in believing religions, lights in the sky,god((s) Jeus, Chrismas, Hanaka,etc,you get the picture? To me this is ALL Make-Believe Fairy-Tale nonsense that just isn`t being very reasonable,rational logical i.e.doesn`t make any sense to me. Who made all this up in the first place the Bible? Who wrote and made up or got these dumb ideas in the first place? Tell me? YIKES!
Terry, the clear answers to this are in the spiritual teachings. BUT, most people need to ask these questions, especially if they are caught up in “traditions” which have no rational practicality. One reason is they were raised into their religion, and their family discouraged them to ever leave the “family” religion.
Two, it is NOT all make believe and fairy tale:
Gilgamesh: https://billymeier.wordpress.com/2014/06/16/gilgamesh-is-a-50000-year-old-shapeshifting-e-t/
Sodom and Gomorrah: https://billymeier.wordpress.com/2014/06/06/sodom-and-gomorrah-what-really-happened/
Noah: https://billymeier.wordpress.com/2014/07/05/noahs-ark-inspired-by-yup-an-extraterrestrial/
Religious people who are AFRAID of Billy Meier’s information being TRUE, can rest at ease knowing that the main stories are true, but a lot of interesting facts and details were left out of what they were taught. The man they call Jesus had the name of Jmmanuel. Jmmanuel was the 5th of 7 prophets from the Nokodemion line, which includes many prophets familiar to western religions. These prophets had the correct message, but their teachings became distorted and manipulated hundreds and thousands of years. Previous “gods”, were nothing more than advanced humans who ruled at different times in our ancient history. The old word “god” translates to king of wisdom. Some of these kings/gods were Semjasa, Pelegon, Arus, and Jehova. They were mortal men, but became immortal through stories, fabrications, and misrepresentations of written history and biblical texts.
Religious people need to understand the difference between a god and Creation, the difference between Jesus and Jmmanuel, and the difference between the Bible and the Talmud of “Jmmanuel” and the “Goblet of the Truth”.
Hey Mark,
I know how darts feel like; as I put myself “out there” on this blog . I am taking Arie’s advice and being the necessary contrarian… for this board.
Remember friends, it is about the importance of neutrality.
Cheers,
I am a Phoney too
Regarding why I’m not a fan of the UFOCI, including what Meier and Ptaah have said, see:
http://www.theyfly.com/lost/Archives/meiersb34.htm (Contact 441)
http://www.theyfly.com/Surpising_Natural_Origins.htm
http://theyfly.com/Alien-Abductions.html
http://www.theyfly.com/UFO_Experts.html
http://www.theyfly.com/Exopolitics.htm
http://theyfly.com/Contact_424.html
And here’s a little more information on my many years long efforts to get Stanton Friedman to investigate the Meier case, before my two recent debates with him:
http://www.theyfly.com/An_Open_Letter_to_Stanton.html
This forum is a cakewalk Anthony and I wouldn’t consider that putting yourself out there. To most here you are just another un-informed person with an opinion that we have learned, quite well, to tolerate and deal with and hope you come around.
Onaconda Farr: Master Bombad, on behalf of the people of Rodia I thank you. You are either the bravest, or the most foolish Jedi I have ever met.
Jar Jar Binks: I’m just a Gungan, and I don’t think I’m either.
Hey Mark. If you haven’t seen this yet, I have two versions of a vector file free for use if you ever need it:
http://taro.drupalgardens.com/content/overpopulation
http://taro.drupalgardens.com/content/overpopulation-toying-with-extinction
Thanks Taro… I’ll take a look.
Immaneul would be horrified if he heard what those born-again Jesus-Flock-RNAs were preaching on that video you were on!
Anthony A. There is a big difference between “frustrated” and a holy roller. Frustrated MH was and is. As far as Billy and his friends, they are very satisfied with his efforts. You would know that if you invest your self in the contact notes. Why don’t you give it a try. If you feel you have a better approach to getting the information out there. I wait to hear well you do. In the mean time, stop hacking on people that have done so much. When you have done nothing but whine about MH and his hard work. Put up or shut up. Salome Robert
Robert,
I have been studying and applying the spiritual teaching for 20 years now. I have read some of the Contact notes among many other Figu periodicals; I study the material everyday.
My controversial blog entry was a demonstration of the spiritual teaching. The Universe is not good or bad, it is neutral. Nature is another template where we can see neutrality. So in order to align yourself with Creation/Universe, you need to align yourself with neutrality. And neutrality applies to everything not just certain things, like video games, drugs, NFL sports, iPods, smart phones, phantasmagoria, etc., So it is illogical to say that video games, for instance, are bad, period. No, video games are good and bad, and positive and negative. Things also carry a charge, like men are positives (+) and women are negatives (-). So it is essential, if one is trying to adhere and apply the spiritual teaching that a person strives for neutrality, because that is what is truly correct. Because we know from Meier that Creation is not just positive and negative, or good and bad, it is neutral.
So when I post about a particular topic, I am trying to apply the spiritual teaching to the best of my ability. So UFOs are neutral, hence the unwarranted controversy among the board and moderator. A blog that is adhering to the spiritual teaching would not find my posts controversial.
Once we understand neutrality, then we can begin to align ourselves with a positive rather than ‘destructive’ orientation. Hence we come to the idea of neutral-positive-equalized thinking. For example we can see in nature that things tend to thrive or create; animals, plants, other life-forms, along with ecosystems live in balance, with only man coming in and destroying nature by cutting down (creating destruction, rather than creating more nature) a precious rain forest, for example.
So in order to flow as nature and the rest of Creation, a person wants to be neutral but with the polar orientation toward the positive (good). This thinking would never cut down a rain forest, but instead would find some way to live in balance with one’s environment. So Billy recommends that one’s thinking should be neutral-positive to be in harmony with the rest of the growing, thriving, adapting, creative, balanced, etc., nature all around us.
Absolutely.
I don’t find your posts controversial. I find that you often miss the mark, such as by saying that UFOs are neutral, which no one has argued with, when what you’re really saying is that my (and other people’s) approach, comments, etc., about people and organizations that chase, wrongly attribute all sorts of meaning to them and who distract and disinform in the process are wrong…and you’re anything but neutral about it.
And it isn’t video games – any more than it’s guns – that are “bad”. It’s the relentless preoccupation and indulgence in them that goes beyond being productive, useful, pertinent, etc. Unless of course you’re only training to become some kind of a remote killer, dehumanized and willing to follow orders and push the necessary buttons to annihilate people. Certainly one can waste their life and time on video games without becoming a killer.
I don’t find your posts controversial. I find that you often miss the mark, such as by saying that UFOs are neutral, which no one has argued with, when what you’re really saying is that my (and other people’s) approach, comments, etc., about people and organizations that chase, wrongly attribute all sorts of meaning to them and who distract and disinform in the process are wrong…and you’re anything but neutral about it.
And it isn’t video games – any more than it’s guns – that are “bad”. It’s the relentless preoccupation and indulgence in them that goes beyond being productive, useful, pertinent, etc. Unless of course you’re only training to become some kind of a remote killer, dehumanized and willing to follow orders and push the necessary buttons to annihilate people. Certainly one can waste their life and time on video games without becoming a killer.
Horn,
The bottom line is that your blog followers and yourself line up to whip anybody who they do not understand (what sounds bad to them rather than think things through) AND this should not be happening on a Billy Meier friendly site.
I like you and I dislike you. I agree and I disagree with you. You have done wonderful things and you have bleeped things up.
Here is what good looks like: I think you have done a wonderful job with the SROT movie, and And Did They Listen. You have reached hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people and changed their lives by turning them on to Billy. You are a modest, hardworking, sincere individual. You are an outstanding writer, with great communication skills. You also look good for your age and in good shape and healthy. And you write very good song lyrics.
Now the other side: you are rarely balanced when it comes to your escape goats: UFOIC, video games, cell phones, phantasmagoria, MUFON, Friedman, etc. No… you are lopsided to ranting how these things are destroying the world. My good man, I am showing the spiritual teaching in use on this supposedly Meier friendly site, and I am being whipped and chard by yourself and blog followers. You turn a blind eye to some of what I say, regardless of the truth, and think that I am attacking you because the truth hurts. I have been doing this for YEARS! This is not new. Now at this point, since you NEVER admit a mistake or that you are wrong about something, I am going to Jar Jar you. I am tired of YOUR FIGU. I want a fun, progressive, non-Alex Jones, spiritually enthusiastic crowd to deal with when I come to BillyMeierLand.
Please, the sky did not part, and a ray of light come down and created Michael Horn. You are human like the rest of us and therefore imperfect. Despite getting a good report card from Meier and Ptaah, admit that you are wrong sometimes and that you will improve and I won’t have to make you look like a fool with your silly responses, not to mention the silly stuff that comes from your regulars. You should be ashamed of all the followers who kiss your bleep and tell you how great you are. This is not useful. Offering a contrary view creates the necessary friction to move a conversation along past pleasantries.
Kind regards,
Anthony
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I actually still don’t get your real objection, point, etc.
I have a blog, I do various things connected to my self-obligated role with the mission. You don’t like it, think it’s wrong, etc. Fine. And you’re also free to do the work the way YOU see fit. Since I’m not you, how’s about you not waste your time – and mine – trying to make me wrong for being me? I’ve never said I was right about everything, I’ve simply given my opinion and point of view.
And trying to tell me I’m wrong for having my point of view about the UFOCI, SETI, MUFON, etc., doesn’t quite cut it.
Of course you’ve never spent YEARS trying to get the dolts that you’re an apologist for to just be honest, to do what THEY SAY they do in regards to UFOs, extraterrestrials, contacts, etc. Nor have you used all your energy to get your voice to be heard, to call them out when possible so as to at least let people know there’s more to it than what they’re being wrongly told. Asket told Meier in 1953 – years before it even existed – that MUFON would be among his greatest adversaries. Do you think that what she meant was he should just…play nice and get along with them?
Has it yet dawned on you that this is about the essence of life, truth, the spirit, etc., and that these groups and people masquerade in such a way as to prevent the truth from coming out and that they ALL have greater resources, access to the media, etc.? Do you think if there hadn’t been some very aggressive efforts on my and other people’s parts that we’d be better off for it now? Do you know how many people’s reference point for the Meier material is simply all the delusional, negative, attacking, phony, skeptical crap online? Go read comments on any of the Meier films on youtube. The absolutely mind-boggling fact is that NONE of these people even know WHY they’re so virulent in attacking Meier and the case.
But it’s because they want to be…entertained, so they willingly suck up the garbage on the internet, loaded with disinformation, attacks, etc., many of which were engineered by the intelligence agencies, etc., and willingly promoted by the profiteering scum in the UFOCI. Yup, tons of people attacking the truth because their sources have snuck it into their feeble minds, over and over, with terms like hoax, cult, etc., etc.
And you want something that’s more fun. Great. As for your offering a contrary view, what are you talking about? Simply complaining about how someone else does their work isn’t really a contrary view.
Why don’t you send your message to Meier and FIGU complaining to them about these exact same things? Let the Core Group know that they’re too serious, should lighten up, have more fun with the mission, etc.
Michael,
I just want to thank you for taking time and writing such extensive conversation. It is rare that a person can interact with a source representative, and with prompt approval time.
I thought I was contacting Figu by blogging on this site. Is this not an official way to complain about and to Billy and his core group?;)
Why can’t I ever have the last word with you? I appreciate your long responses, but I am blogging my comment about your blog. The idea is that the authority/author had his say, and the commenters should be free to discuss the author without having the author constantly chase down bloggers to make sure that they look good.
To all the commenters: I am a friend to Figu. I am a friend of the Earth. I am a friend to humanity. And I love Billy Meier. Please don’t think that I am attacking anyone. I am just here to make things interesting. Also I hope that my stuff is funny to at least some people out there. It may seem that MH has to constantly FIX what I have to say by following up on nearly everything I say. I would think that after paragraph after paragraph of his expert advice I would have been fixed by now. It seems that WW3(4) could break out at anytime. I’m sure all thinking humans right now on planet Earth are a LITTLE concerned right now with all the was going on, and terrorists, plus harsh weather conditions due to climate change. It is in OUR FACE. We don’t necessarily need Billy to tell us how bad things are, these are in the news every day. Right now the world needs LOVE. Giving hope and solutions to people and encouraging new ideas is a way for humans to improve their condition. That is all that I am trying to show or demonstrate here. I am some nobody Billy Meier fan. I also love Star Wars if you haven’t noticed. Plus I like to study other UFO cases. I am a huge John Titor fan. I come here to bring my two cents. Like it or not. Take it or leave it. I just hope everybody does not listen to me and instead thinks for themselves.
P.S. Since you think you’re the spokesperson for contrariness here and that I’m unaware of the value of it, etc., why not take a gaze at some real contrariness:
http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,1075.0.html
If you even read the last few pages of it you’ll get a sense of what I meant when I said that none of the people who virulently attack the Meier case even know WHY they do it. I glance over at this mess from time to time and, as you can see, also have posted info, etc.
This is America’s response to the truth in a most condensed and putrid form. Perhaps you can see that I’m not in much danger of developing a runaway ego so long as I occasionally click on that forum. And of course it’s a great example of self-loathing cowardice, easily controlled, snarling dogs who respond precisely as they’ve been conditioned to when Meier is mentioned, etc.
“…none of the people who virulently attack the Meier case even know WHY they do it.”
Okay I am getting tired so this will be my last attempt to have the last word with MH. This is harder than trying to achieve warp drive with your everyday driver. But I do have a Flux Compactor plugged into the cigarette lighter; I just can’t get my car up to 88 mph!
People do know why they attack the Meier case. It is the same reason that your regular bloggers attack me. The Meier case is not fashionable. It is the black sheep of ufology. Go on any UFO site with Meier, and you might as well have a target on your back. In my opinion, intelligence agencies don’t have to get in the way of Meier. Meier does a great job of getting in his own way. He does not need help. I would imagine he is pretty cheap to maintain. Most of the wanna be expert Ufologists, big names like Friedman, Greer, do not want to end up in the black sheep camp. There is no CIA creating this black sheepness. No…. it is the crazy sounding truth to the believers and closed minded. The truth seems ridiculous to people. Billy’s spirit was the same one in Jesus, whose real name was Jmmanual. That does not sound crazy? How about Nazi flying saucers? Is that bat bleep or what? How about, there is NO GOD. Think some might think that Meier is a lunatic? No, the Meier case sounds like a day on the farm. People are not going past their first impressions with Meier because, (1) most people do not want to do the thinking involved to understand Meier (2) it is easier to go along with the majority crowd to be accepted. Most professionals do NOT want to give up their great careers, (read: homes, marriages, jobs, friends, family) because they decided to run with the black sheep.
What is it? First they laugh at you. Then they criticize you. Then they fight you. Then you win.
Could you please go and sit on your little chair over in the corner there and stop hogging and hijacking the Recent Comments list, until you’ve realised that you’re being made an example of and have got a comment of worthiness to make!!!
Thank you.
Have you even watched the video in this post?
Who in this video is fighting the good fight, exactly?
“to thereby effect something in the world and in the humanity, every individual must grasp the initiative, learn to behave correctly, carry the ideas of love, peace, freedom and harmony from his side into the world and fight for that.”-Billy
“because only he who really fights can also win, and carry a victory from it.”-Billy
“To this end, any good, honest and justifiable positive way is precisely good enough, and indeed it is entirely the same whether the fight is led with deeds, actions or with words in speech or text.”-Billy
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_027
I think what Anthony wants is to bash someone’s work and not expect anyone to defend it. He is actually bashing the work of others and still feels like he’s the victim when someone speaks back to him, even though his comments are HIS opinions only. I want a ticket to that world he’s in.
Andrew is it?
Aren’t you sweet. Obviously everything that I am saying is going over your head. I am demonstrating FIGU material.
I am sorry to say this, and keep in mind contrariness as I say this, but Billy Meier people, at least the English ones I have encountered are some of the stupidest people I have ever come across. Star Wars fans are far, far smarter than the average dolt who comes to this forum. You people have NO idea what the spiritual teaching is; you can not recognize that creating friction to move a conversation is in line, as well as neutrality, and the importance of contrariness when we are considering neutral-positive thinking.
But you need some core group member or some privileged language to be alive; you folks need Billy to give you the answer, most of the time. The reason that you are not doing the spiritual teaching right is because you are not necessarily applying. You are just reading and waiting to read pages in a book.
My little corner may be larger than your whole world; then again, maybe not. I am not trying to hog anything. As a matter of fact, MH can ban me if he wants to. Why don’t you go away, because you add nothing to this otherwise worthless blog filled with passing responsibility; whether it is blaming politicians, banksters, the elite, MUFON, Ufology, video games, cell phones, etc. No… the responsible thing to do according to the spiritual teaching is to take on personal responsibility, because then you can change things for YOURSELF. The outside world is no longer a burden.
You think because you are Andrew and you have kissed Figu bleep, and just mingling here giving opinions, like everybody else, that you are powerful enough to make me less dominant on your little board? It’s not your board; it is yours and mine. Thank you though for the “fight” anthem from Billy. That’s what I have been doing and will continue harder.
Anthony’s in such a hurry here that maybe I should point out that, for those of you who’ve seen WHEN TRUTH PREVAILS, Anthony’s the cameraman who filmed the segment with world famous skeptic, Ray Hyman.
How do you know my name?
Nicely played you two, the old good cop bad cop routine; sorta, kinda, nearly, almost.
You have given me the motivation to finally and terminatedly clear up the difference between skeptical and cynical so as to be able to add them to my knowledge. (I have never said that I am the most intelligent one that I know of, although I consider myself intelligent enough to improve my intelligence)
I do admit to being quite cynical and not so skeptical, but I am evolving. I have found that most people that I have come across are dirty and untidy yet vain, inconsiderate, unconscientious and discourteous. Irresponsible you could say. I do not profess to be perfect myself, case in point: still smoking; and then some. Irresponsible you could say.
I found reading GOTT a bit discouraging at first due to BEAM’s writing so much about the negative side of life that has this planet in the state that it is now, but I now understand that he is being equalised and not only teaching how to Be but also teaching how NOT to Be.
I have been searching for a new tin god, you fit the bill, but I will not be anyone else’s subordinate. Oh the conundrum.
Thank you Anthony.
PS. I am not worthy, I have only just watched Episode I last month, and Episode II only yesterday (and not because of you, sport, it just happens that Episode I was on TV which I only watched because a visitor turned the thing on) and I might watch Episode III this life time.
I visited that forum. It was infuriating and maddening all at once and I wanted so badly to smash them down.
I had to calm myself down. Now I feel a lot better and I have been writing a response to henge0stone, who actually asked a pretty good question about why you even bother, Michael. I’m uncertain myself as to whether I should give an answer. On one hand, he directed the question to you, so it’s really your call, but on the other hand I’m sure I could lay out some decent, well-thought-out food for thought.
My drafted response talks about what the truth-teaching really offers. I could submit it. But at the same time I am conscious of the importance of vagueness according to the article “Talkativeness” that can be found in the Canada FIGU web site.
What do you all think? Has enough time passed that we could safely begin to talk about the actual truth-teaching and what it offers? Or is it more sensible to continue inviting people in through the UFO evidence?
Maybe I’ll play a little more Kingdoms of Amalur and study and watch the Fae characters depicted in that video game. They really show me at times a great way to be vague and just that perfect amount of mysterious, and perhaps my approach could use some of that.
Salome all
Hi Tyler,
It’s your call. Actually, I’ve used the experience as the counter-balance to all the positivity we’re creating. I’ve experimented with putting things forward in any number of ways but it’s really a pretty degenerate bunch there who revel in anonymous nastiness. So now I just drop in my latest blog, etc., and watch the snarling dogs go at it.
In comparison to that mess, there’s absolutely nothing out that could possibly bother one…except the news of the day.
I can tell you that it’s probably pointless to try to engage on ANY reasonable level but if you want to experiment with such things, it’s the place to do it.
Maybe I need to put in some anger anyway, to fight fire with fire (something I’m vaguely familiar with from the teaching). If so, I am dumb for having deleted my whole angry response. And I’m calm now, so gonna have to get pissed again later. Cause, freakin damn what a bunch of infuriating lunk-heads those guys are.
Tyler,
As you can see from your (hopefully brief) foray into the land of degenerate truth opponents, it’s really pointless to use that site for anything but “testing” one’s own reactions to unrelenting negativity. Weird as this sounds, it can be used (in very small doses) just to process one’s OWN issues, reactions, etc.
Speaking of putting up. I recently ordered some books. When I recived them I had noticed that MH had kindly included two pamphlets. One on, over population, the other, our manifesto. On the last page of our manifesto is a call for help for starving people. At the bottom of the page is account information if you would like to contribute to the effort. What I am not clear on is how are you are suppose to send donations. By snail mail or by wire? Thank you for all. Salome Robert
Anthony,
I see you have a problem telling the difference between fantasy and reality. THe Billy Meier material is the hard truth and people like yourself obviously have a hard time listening to it. Whether it’s from guilt in your past or that you take offense to things that shouldn’t offend you in the first place. Are you the one responsible for overpopulation? Or directly responsible for WW4? How does Michael urging humanity to wake up and stop wasting time “Chasing lights in the sky” offend you so much? When you stick up for people who are obviously wasting their and everybody else’s time with Fantasys? What do we have time for? Facts or Fiction? Meanwhile I see my children’s future being destroyed before my eyes. People need to know what is really going on. We are tired of the distractions and “the back ground noise” of people’s delusions and fantasies. It really takes away from the truth and I am sorry that you can’t see this and I hope one day you will stop blaming Michael for you stalling in your own spiritual evolution.
Kevin,
Yes my friend, I take personal responsibility, as should my Earthling neighbors, for all the bleep on this planet. I am responsible, you are responsible, everybody is responsible, for the destruction, pollution, of the planet, but also the breakdown of humanity, and the plants, animals, nature. This is a crime. A person can’t buy a diaper without supporting some corporation, and currency, along with all here foreign policy including her wars. Ever have to throw anything into a trash can? You know, throw trash away? Well, thanks mate for contributing to a landfill. Ever wonder if your plastic trash ever ended up strangling a poor sea creature?
And as a major Star Wars fan I know great fantasy. In the Star Wars community there is a big debate on whether Lucas’s failed Jar Jar Binks character was really the “key to all of it,” as Lucas says. So the puzzle for the day, was Jar Jar the perfect, drunken master, playing the fool to convince Jedi and politicians that he was a harmless, cute little amphibious humanoid who is so clumsy he seems to create the most havoc.
The Star Wars community has slowed down Phantom Menace movie footage to show that Jar Jar can be seen whispering a Jedi mind trick in at least a couple of scenes. And if that where not enough, Jar Jar can be seen doing the Jedi hand wave to convince his subjects. It comes out of nowhere, but it can be argued that Jar Jar Binks was intended to be an evil Sith master, who not only helped put Anakin/Darth Vader into authority, but also Emperor Palpatine. There is a deleted scene from Attack of the Clones, where then senator Palpatine was secretly thanking Jar Jar for giving him ‘dictatorial’ control when they suspended democracy for the Clone Wars.
What is funny, is that this tired blog here is going to give me another whipping for trying to demonstrate things I have learned from the Meier case, yet they will think that I am spewing nonsense and guilty of spreading phantasmagoria by spending time talking about Star Wars instead of Billy Meier. If this is what you think, then you are not paying attention.
Cheers!
In response to Anthony’s claim that Mike’s apparant “lack of balance is turning people off”
What a load of fairy sh#t! How can you turn people off, if they were never really ON to begin with??Pikey
Obviously Pike you did not get the joke? The whole “lights” in the sky and an on and off switch. This was one sentence. Can’t your Kotze self debate me on the other 99% of my message? Let’s solve puzzles together.
And getting right back on track!
GREAT work, LOVE your work, KEEP IT UP!!!
Salome.