Once we have it you can go somewhere and come back before you left
Please feel free to post your comments, thoughts, opinions, questions, etc. about time travel here.
Due to current and pending geopolitical and environmental concerns and events, it’s understandable that people may want to book out of here as soon as possible. We don’t currently have any information about how and/or when flights may be available. However, flights of fancy and fantasies about the future are the stuff of human dreams and hopes so, have at it.
That will be the day when pig men can fly.
Hi Michael
I’m sorry to be off topic but I was wondering if you or Billy had mentioned anything about Antarctica It seems to be a very hot topic right now thanks
Billy stated months ago there are 3 different extraterrestrials races stationed in Antarctica currently checking out the planet. And let’s not forget the story by the special forces soldier who was with a team in the jungle of Venezuela and crossed over the border to Colombia and came Apon a farm where the people looked German dressed from the 1940’s and were not accommodating to questions being asked. A village self contained.
I don’t recall him saying anything about these races being stationed in Antarctica.
Gee Michael, I read it on your blog here. I’m not trying to intentionally get attention.
Please link to it and also to the article about the special forces soldier in Venezuela, I’m not aware of that one either.
I don’t know how to link. The 3 races story I read on your site. The special forces incident I got off you tube. I’m not too computer savvy. I don’t know how to link. I’m sorry. Sincerely, John.
Hi John,
No problem, I think what you’re referring to is information about the three groups who monitor the Earth and each observe certain areas. They aren’t actually stationed on the Earth, from what I recall.
As for any info off YouTube, it may or may not be accurate.
Thanks.
A few years ago I remember reading and or hearing somewhere that what ever is happening here on Earth was thousands of years ago and that we are all living in the past. I keep wondering if it is possible to by pass this timeline and move from 2016 to 3016 and I hope mabye Earth could by pass these very dark times into a world of peace,love,freedom harmony and light etc. Why must I have to live in such a very dangerous dark time when mabye thousands of years from now mabye this world would learn and grow up and travel through time and space to other benevolent friendly worlds and dimentions such as the DAL Universe etc. “If only we could skip these terrible times maby the plejarens will finally open up a nd wecomes us after such a horribly long warlike struggle. There are so many many universes and so many many dimensions why do i have to come from and live on such a savage primitive dangerous child world that is so full of war,crime,diseases,hate, religion and so on,I just don`t understand why I have to put up with such a primitve backwards world. For all I know we might just blow ourselve up because these politicians and their gangs just don`t give a damn ifi we live or die! Where is the logic and rational for all this horror or why is ther no ethical moral reason for ill these ills in the first place. How can we clime out of our cribs of wars,environmental destruction etc,etc,etc into the next thousand years to the year 3016 and beyond? How do we get into a timeline of less danger good health well being and happyness. If the Plejarens can do it why can`t we on Earth do the sme? Are we that dumb and stupid not to wake up from a horribly bad nightmare that we can`t get ouf from all these ills and move on into the year 3016 and beyond? What gives?
Terry, my suggestion is to look at things from a different perspective. The material part of life is nothing but an instrument for accumulating experiences, knowledge and wisdom derived from it. The rough circumstances on Earth are thus a turbo opportunity for learning from challenges left and right. There are many millions of planets and intelligent civilizations out there in this specific universe, but only we on Earth and at this very time in this life have the incredible privilege to witness the single universal prophet in his seventh and final spirit incarnation, busy completing the legacy of writing down the foundation of the spiritual teaching, the written words and values of which will remain uncorrected and used till the end of the universe. In the Genesis, page 74, para 16, 17 we also learn that
… No true prophets were ever and are assigned to you for bringing you peace in the worldly life. True prophets bring you unpeace in the worldly life as well as struggle and discord with yourself and your next one, for the truthly prophets don’t bring you worldly successes and worldly life, but the all-great-timely life as BEING in relative absolute fulfilment of the spirit, which you have to create by the power and activity of your consciousness, …
… Keine wahren Propheten waren und sind dir je und je zugetan, um dir Frieden zu bringen im weltlichen Leben. Wahre Propheten bringen dir Unfrieden im weltlichen Leben sowie Kampf und Hader mit dir selbst und mit deinen Nächsten, denn die wahrheitlichen Propheten bringen dir nicht weltliche Erfolge und weltliches Leben, sondern das allgrosszeitliche Leben als SEIN in relativer Vervollkommnung des Geistes, was du durch die Kraft und Aktivität deines Bewusstseins erarbeiten must…
Great advice! But folks have been advising Terry here for years with similar messages of taking self responsibility, that she seems to ignore.
You also ignore the politics, economies, and other things you think are waste of time. Terry is on that state because unlike you who focuses only things that interests you, she affects herself of the general situation of the planet. You can get emotionally moved when you think of the earths misery. But maybe youre just too rational to be not sentimental, so bare with her, bare with us who have soft hearts, too soft to be understood by your likes.
Dear Rose,
I do not ignore those things, I just don’t spend ALL my time there. I am trying to offer Terry friendly advice. I care about her progress that seems stalled here, and I am not the only person who sees it.
If you are Terry’s friend, and know her and see her, please HELP her outside to reach a nature setting. Do this if this is okay with her doctor. Just sit quietly with her and listen to the birds. She will find peace in their song. Let her hear the sound of a brook or even a fountain with some flowers planted nearby. She will find love in their colors and smell. Let her smell the fresh air and take in the sunshine instead of being chained to the latest news vs fake news. Terry can always go back to all the so-called experts she is listening to. But my hope is that Terry becomes HER OWN expert because she is discovering things on her own. She does not need so-called experts to show her the truth, she can find it herself! Like all of us, she has the power of a Universe inside that she can unfold.
This is my wish for dear Terry.
Thank you, Anthony. Actually I felt attacked by your words thats why I chimed in. Her state is where I used to be so I teared up and thought you recklessly unemphatized her feelings. I do not know her personally nor any of you here but I hope she re-read this page and find your words. She seems to be on that miserable loop and being on that state, no advice or any outside influences can grab her out. Maybe she only needs more time and to hear and listen more inwardly just as how I got out of that loop. I misunderstood you, sorry. You have very nice intentions I appreciate it, now I just hope she can make her way out too.
I’ve always wanted to go back to Dallas November 22 1963 to see who actually killed JFK.
The CIA did it.
Salome.
Gordon Barnes
UK
William R Greer, who was a CIA agent and Was a driver that day.
No, that’s the conspiracy theory nonsense.
This is probably one of my favorite topics to discuss for many reasons. Obviously, it isn’t tangible right now and not healthy to “live in the future” as billy describes it. However since we don’t poses the means of lightspeed propulsion (due to chronons being the key component to time travel..and specifically locating them and having the capacity to “steer” them) as billy suggest in contact report 119. It’s a challenge for humanity particularly to master this means of travel…clearly. However I’m concerned beyond a measure of some of the misconceptions that currently exists due to television, film etc. One particular and bizarre misconception comes to mind …the grandfather paradox which is highly solicited and sold to the general public by the entertainment industry and the military industrial complex (which of course includes the world intelligence/clandestine community). In general The Grandfather Paradox.assumes (assumptions/ religious belief) that going back in time ,killing your Grand father…would irrationally resort and conclude in your father not being born. Because this gross misconception has been within the story plots in major films like (example: Back To The Future franchise)…it’s now a delusional expectation. In other words people are grossly under the assumption that when (because it’s NOT a if)…when we developed time travel..we can change the past. Guess what!!! Don’t bank on it..if the currently military industrial complex and intelligence community knew with certainty that it’s not possible to change the past. They would be far wiser with the execution of military engagement around the world. Billy and the plejarens have expressed discussed this false misconception about the grandfather paradox…
Please folks, it is important to consult the Meier information so that this thread does not turn into science fiction.
Contact 142 , Source Future of Mankind
“Billy:
Ah, now it starts to take form. Now, if people or machines and such travel into the past or the future, these are invisible there to the people or other life forms living there, although the time travelers can live there if they find suitable living conditions. This is in contrast to when people or machines simply penetrate into parallel times and, thus, into parallel dimensions, which are temporal and spatial and are, thus, exactly materially the same as the time plane from which the time travelers came. This is so even if such another parallel dimension was created somewhat sooner or later than the one from which the time travelers came. It’s just important that the spatial and temporal relationships are exactly the same, right?”
Notice Billy says a “…parallel dimension was created…” when a penetrating time jump occurs. This means when a temporal driver interferes with things while in the past, they are creating for themselves for them a new space/time where these events have happened in history. Therefore a driver never changes the past for everybody else, only himself/herself. So the spiritual lesson to get out of this is that it is the driver’s personal responsibility that is in play here, and he is not playing God for the rest of the folks in time there.
G’Day Anthony,
I see you got your thesaurus out.
Good for you! (I think one who flies is a pilot, oh the semantics)
😉
I would travel back in time and tell my younger self to reject ALL religion, learn to meditate, learn German at high school, find BEAM in the 90’s…
G’day matey,
Personally, I would not trade my religious experience that my younger self had. Without being subjected to religion, and forced to think about the concepts, I don’t think I would have had as good a reference point in comparing this with the truth. It is healthy to compare and contrast.
Personally, I feel I discovered BEAM at the most opportune time for me. Had I discovered the case before, I think I would still be too immature. Personally, it is never too late to find the truth…Creation gives us trillions of years for the current wake cycle of our Universe, and it only takes billions of years to evolve from human to pure spirit levels. A blink of an eye on a cosmic scale.
So you don’t shoot up heroin or beat up your significant other anymore?
Good for you!
😉
Hello Anthony,
I think you are misinterpreting something here. Billy is talking about two different things. You cannot change the past that has already happened for anyone, including yourself, you can only travel to different dimensions that are already there, you are not creating them. There is nothing about creating a new space/time “when a penetrating time jump occurs” in the contact note, that is solely your (mis)interpretation, in my humble opinion. What is meant is simply, that you penetrate into a parallel dimension, that was created not by you, but by “the universe” if you will, just like the dimension we are all in right now. This would be a lot more logical, don’t you think? Otherwise time travellers the universe over would be creating dimensions left and right, so to speak. That sounds a bit megalomaniacal to me.
Billy says that a “…parallel dimension is created…sooner or later…” I did not say this. I know it sounds strange. Obviously there may be flaws in my interpretation. But my interpretations are thought out and well researched in the Meier material; and this is not something I am making up as I go.
In Guido’s second example of killing Hitler to prevent WWII, history shows that there were not even any assignation attempts let alone strange ones. And we know he committed suicide, so even if a time traveler(s) (alien or Earth human) actually went back in time to kill him, ALL attempts must not only been unsuccessful but NOT even CLOSE. So the probability is strong that no time travelers ever attempted to kill Hitler. As far as creating a paradox by a son killing his mother, to add some more perspective, to Guido’s example. The reason the son was unsuccessful is because it never happened. It could not happen because he was born. EVEN if he had a time machine, and Plejaren technology and it was certain that he could do it and he was crazy, for some reason he was unsuccessful, not because nature stepped in, but rather that the law of nature that the past is solid, negative, unchangeable, etc. law stood.
Now let’s talk about “parallel dimensions.” If folks read contact 143 Billy talks about an invisible time travel and another form of time travel where humans and equipment “penetrate” and can be seen and interact with the environment to a “parallel” place; where an irresponsible human being or force could wreak havoc on the environment, BUT unlike Guido’s example when we are talking a history with NO EVIDENCE of time travel, our WWII timeline for example, but on this parallel place it is possible that a Hitler like figure was killed by time travelers AND it is RECORDED in their history. Let’s be clear the PAST has NOT changed. In this parallel line there would HAVE TO BE recorded history that this leader was killed, nothing new again. So can a son kill his mother? Not his REAL mother but a person who looks like his mother on a parallel line where THIS WOMAN never HAD ANY CHILDREN. See how easy?
So folks got to be sure that the wind for instance, or an earthquake DOES NOT step in consciously from mother nature, but rather that these events happen naturally because the earth was ready to break with tectonic pressure at that time, for example. So NO ACTS of GOD, in other words.
Let’s try to wrap our head why Billy would say a “new dimension is created.” So if time travelers can be irresponsible and kill and destroy things, why does Billy say the past cannot be changed then? The short answer he is trying to discipline you to see creational laws and directives. So when Billy says “the past cannot be changed” it is a VERY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION to, can time travelers succeed at changing things in ‘their’ past? We are talking about two different subjects. Because a solid past and history without evidence of time traveler interference is SIMPLY because no time travelers ventured to this time line. Another important point, there are infinite dimensions, better called space/times. Every possibility exists that can happen within the DERN universe ‘big bang’ structure, as space/time configurations of our unique universe. The Ps as we know come from a space/time a fraction of a second from ours. So when the Ps visit Billy they enter our space/time configuration. So these infinite space/times are separated by “fractions of a second” difference in time. So when Earth humans get a machine that can “penetrate” these differences they will access in their minds a new universe or dimension, but really a space/tune variant of their home universe where they can be irresponsible just like home.
So there are natural timelines that are parallel like we see in nature with the natural distribution of identical baby twins, which is about 1-1.5%. So using nature as a guide we could say that our material universe has a parallel band to our reality of about 1% of an infinite number! In other words, responsible travelers could travel to these NATURAL parallel timelines and not kill the Hitler guy. BUT if they did, please this is my opinion, then the natural space/time would branch off but still NOT CHANGE from the perspective of that particular space/time inhabitants because in their history time travelers killed Hitler. So using twins as an example, we know that we can buck nature’s 1% and clone folks with genetic engineering (thus creating a twin at ANY percentage we want) artificially creating NATURE at the hand of MAN. So again we can see that no Creational laws were broken or created out of fantasy when time travelers polluted the space/time continuum with their irresponsibility.
Let’s also remember that a clone is NEVER the same as the person cloned, as the spirit form will be different, as will the personality, consciousness block, etc.
So an anthony”jarjar”alagna clone would likely be no more close to the original than let’s say an anthony”carcar”lasagna.
I might not even exist there too, as another possibility; and MHH with a beautiful head of hair, does not have to fight with any clone of me on his TheyFling blogett!
Easy for you to say with your clone-at-home program.
Duh, I did it again and said incorrectly, “I might not even exist…” It should read “he” might not even exist.
In my opinion, the reason Meier has skated the issue for many years about “parallel” times, is because of the inclination, spurred on by modern physics theories, to think that these multiples that exist out there are somehow related to you. That you share self responsibility and consciousness for example. This is nonsense! The reality is that these multiples that exist in the multiverse, generated either by playing around with TT so that you try to meet yourself, or parallel lines, are different people with different spirit forms and levels of evolution. It is important to think of these multiples as you would think about identical twins, for example.
Trying to kill a Hitler on another line is akin to punishing or killing the moral twin brother of a serial killer because he simply looks like his evil brother. See the logic here? Or just as retarded, a man marries his deceased wife’s twin sister to bring back their marriage. The man would not be getting his wife back, obviously. But folks can see the temptation, because of shallow thinking, to consider twins or clones or multiverse replicas as the same people. This is the big reason Billy would rather change the subject than confirm the existence of parallel space/times.
So the mind exercise for today is: on natural parallel timelines to our own, would human beings who looks like Billy be acting as prophets there? Hint: the Nokodemion spirit-form returning to material lifetimes from AA level was a unique occurrence in the entire Universe, as I understand it.
I think a weak link here is the emphasis on what someone…looks like, i.e. the implied twin. The fact is that there already are, where and will be people in our own world who look like other people. The Asket and Nera controversy shows the same thing.
But people looking alike has nothing to do with any intrinsic, important factors, similarities, etc. And since the spirit form only inhabits one body, which has a link to the specific consciousness block, etc., it seems like this is a very superficial and irrelevant concern. And most likely quite inaccurate as well.
FWIW: there were actually 42 assassination attempts on Hitler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler
If someone went into the past and changed something significantly, then in a blink of an eye our whole planet’s configuration could be altered. Buildings might disappear or appear, same with people and everything around us would look markedly different. I theorize that this is possible. Now, if only they could go back in time and make the planet Malona re-appear and everyone on it! Or perhaps that’s a bad idea. . . .
Buildings seem to have disappeared and people and things look markedly ndifferent when.ever I travel to places I haven’t been to for a while.
If I can get Lona to reappear I might be able to solve the overpopulation problem.
But that’ll cost you extra.
Matthew,
Great observation! Perhaps Guido was wrong about Hitler not having assignation attempts? I just took his word for it instead of looking it up for myself. If this is the case, and there were so many, it would then be possible that time travelers tried, but ultimately failed.
However, there is also the chance that Guido is right about Hitler, and the Wikipedia is not privy to Figu information that proves otherwise.
The thing folks have to keep in mind when it comes to the past. Any assassination attempts that have happened or will happen are already set in stone in that past. So for example, a time traveler far, far into the future, say 1000 years, has already been accounted for, just as any that might happen much further in the future.
A civic counsel, a legal council, and a spiritual council replace government. They follow the 49 tenets of FIGU in a nutshell, dismantle all but a few nuclear weapons, regulate births to no more than 3 per woman, abolish the death penalty, restore the environment by outlawing pollution, deforestation, and overfishing, build deep geothermal power plants, and make available the teachings of Billy Eduard Albert Meier to all age groups in all parts of the world. Religion, war, and overpopulation disappear.
This sounds like the start of a bad joke :O)
Regards
Gordon
UK
Hi Mike,
I put in a number of posts but nothing seems to show up after.
Are they showing now Ned?
Well, in the more connected world we live in today, some people playing videogames, show themselves stream live on youtube or twitch, or any other ways to communicate with one another show their cognitive bias in which their low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority. This is called the Dunning-Kruger Effect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
A guy’s thoughts about getting good with something, in this case videogames, and how people see themselves in real life with them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xToFJHrxNbg
Of course I have to mention Meier material in some way. So to quote CR 214:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_214
227. Like already for a long time, and also in the future, the Americans constantly make wrong connections with powerful figures, terrorists, countries, and organizations, in order to train these as war specialists and terror specialists, and also as Secret Service agents and spies, etc., without noticing in their megalomania that all these forces, again and again, place themselves against freedom and humanity and, in the end, also against their trainers and against the Americans as a whole
228. In its self-glory, the USA isn’t capable of grasping the damage it inflicts as a whole – not in the least to itself – and that it acts completely illogically and immoderately.
229. Their megalomania and their selfishness, as well as their self-glory, will be more and more a farce in the coming time, namely for the whole world, which will prove itself in the coming time all over the world.
Mike, I guess that time is coming up? The numerous failed military projects leaves most of the US Military with aging equipment designed and produced before the 90s. Also, the few projects that do come become sown with controversy to their alleged superiority like the F-35.
Well, in the more connected world we live in today, some people playing videogames, show themselves stream live on youtube or twitch, or any other ways to communicate with one another show their cognitive bias in which their low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority. This is called the Dunning-Kruger Effect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
A guy’s thoughts about getting good with something, in this case videogames, and how people see themselves in real life with them:
Of course I have to mention Meier material in some way. So to quote CR 214:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_214
227. Like already for a long time, and also in the future, the Americans constantly make wrong connections with powerful figures, terrorists, countries, and organizations, in order to train these as war specialists and terror specialists, and also as Secret Service agents and spies, etc., without noticing in their megalomania that all these forces, again and again, place themselves against freedom and humanity and, in the end, also against their trainers and against the Americans as a whole
228. In its self-glory, the USA isn’t capable of grasping the damage it inflicts as a whole – not in the least to itself – and that it acts completely illogically and immoderately.
229. Their megalomania and their selfishness, as well as their self-glory, will be more and more a farce in the coming time, namely for the whole world, which will prove itself in the coming time all over the world.
Mike, I guess that time is coming up? The numerous failed military projects leaves most of the US Military with aging equipment designed and produced before the 90s. Also, the few projects that do come become sown with controversy to their alleged superiority like the F-35.
CR 214
Like already for a long time, and also in the future, the Americans constantly make wrong connections with powerful figures, terrorists, countries, and organizations, in order to train these as war specialists and terror specialists, and also as Secret Service agents and spies, etc., without noticing in their megalomania that all these forces, again and again, place themselves against freedom and humanity and, in the end, also against their trainers and against the Americans as a whole
In its self-glory, the USA isn’t capable of grasping the damage it inflicts as a whole – not in the least to itself – and that it acts completely illogically and immoderately.
Their megalomania and their selfishness, as well as their self-glory, will be more and more a farce in the coming time, namely for the whole world, which will prove itself in the coming time all over the world.
Oddly, I do not see my exerts of CR 214 here like it is being auto erased. Read lines 227 to 229 and note the “farce” portion of the text.
“Once we have it you can go somewhere and come back before you left”
MH, that implies you can change the past somewhat. I find time travel according to the Meier material confusing. We are told you can go back in time but cannot change anything yet Billy went back in time to visit Immanuel. And we are told future earth people are coming back in time to now to try to change things like messing with Billy’s spiritual teachings books before Billy has chance to publish them.
The simple answer, which also may need more explanation, is because those are things that didi happen, i.e. Emmanuel was visited by a man from his future, it’s part of what happened in his life.
It wasn’t that someone came back in the middle of something that (historically) occurred and then changed it by his presence.
Man I must’ve missed a lot of info in these contact reports. In which CR does it say that certain earth humans are coming back and messing with Meiers books?
If we could go somewhere with time travel and come back before we left, we could potentially see our future selves. So if a time traveler is looking at himself/herself, which one is still you? Because obviously, your consciousness would not be split so that you would be experiencing life as both individuals. You would be looking at yourself like you are looking at another person. So in my thinking, what determines who is who is the one doing the observation. The observer effect would dictate which individual you are at the time and how your awareness would be measured. This is my own theory and may or may not correspond with reality.
I have spoken to myself as another person and it is quite scary! However, when I spoke to myself it was in a dream and I didn’t realize that the other person was me, coming to speak to me in this life out of another life. I only realized it after I thought about it for awhile.
One of the hardest things to get your head wrapped around is, if a person used time travel to meet himself/herself, how would this be two different people and not the same human being?
An easy way to see the difference is that if you took both of these clones created thru time travel and send them off to live separate lives, would their lives be exactly the same? Would their evolution be the same that they achieved thru their lifetimes? Would they even live to exactly the same age?
If one ponders any of these questions it is easy to come to the conclusion that it would BE IMPOSSIBLE for these two to have the SAME outcomes. The two clones would be going through unique experiences, meeting different people, falling into different jobs, eating different meals, going to the restroom at different times, etc. So it is easy to see that although we created two of the same person by playing around with time travel, like a new born baby with a fresh slate, each one of our clones has a free will to choose their own unique life path. Therefore the two would be building their own unique spirit-forms as two different human beings because of the differences in consciousness between them.
Just to add to my previous comment concerning this important topic. Guido, in his book “And They Still Fly”..Guido explains once we go back in time…we learn a wealth of information from the extraterrestrials of that timeline destination.
I personally sense that Time Travel will be imperative…for peace. Due to having the capacity of humanity on earth ending its most denerative, multiple centuries long rumination..religion. Once humanity earth has earned the discovery of Time Travel. Religions will miserably attempt to verify and solidify all their illogical and fanatical false claims. By visiting those destinations of the false claimed events and observing and analyzing what actually transpired in the past. They will end their disputes of megalomania and revenge.
I have wondered whether some people have incarnated on the earth, coming out of a future time maybe or a distant past time. The only problem I can see with that is overlapping another life lived somewhere else. So, logically, you could only incarnate out of the past into the future, not from the future into the past.
Then the question remains, when we die, do we have to go back and live through the time that we skipped? What a nightmare!
It’s my understanding after studying and reading the important material concerning time travel that it implies this conclusion:
Space and time are separate but work together as one (same as positive and negative charge both separate but together create a power current).
But time is like film…once something is burned into the film…you can only watch the re play.
Hi Luis,
Time is a function of the disruption of space and the gravity produced. Just as Einstein has said, the faster a person travels in say a rocket ship the slower time progresses for them relative to someone on the Earth. So the size of a planetary body in space would also be disrupting the surrounding space, so that the gravity waves, light waves, time waves, etc. are not constant but are changing.
I would imagine material consciousness also disrupts space as it grows through evolution, creating light waves, gravity waves, time waves, etc. just like a planet, a star or galaxy or universe. Semjase talks about wisdom being light in Intro to the Spiritual Teaching contact. The disruption of space with a material conscious is the key to spiritual time travel, I think. So we might think that we can use our consciousness, someday when we evolve, like a black hole to create a gravity well in which to disrupt space/time.
Hi Anthony,
Thanks for the information you provided. However if your implying you can “spiritually time travel”…this sounds quite similar to astral projection..in which according to billy and the plejaren only a hand full of humans can do on earth (reason being only a few know the spiritual symbols to do this and also fewer know how to “not leave a trail” and prevent any unintentional followers during the process. On the other hand it shouldn’t be ruled out as an option. However bare in mind even the plejarens who are over 30 thousand years ahead of us technologically…they themselves have not even mastered time travel (example the unfortunate loss of Semajase’s husband to a unknown timeline)
Hi Luis,
I just want to correct some things you wrote. Meier never calls it astral projection, as far as I know. He calls it more of a “stretching out” of the consciousness, like putting out invisible consciousness-arms or -antennas. The consciousness always stays inside the brain.
Also, the Plejaren are “only” about 3.500 years ahead of us technologically, not 30.000 and they have mastered time travel with machines (UFOs) some time in the 80s, thanks to some help from Asket’s people, the TImar, from the DAL universe. Semjase’s husband was not lost to an unknown timeline, but burned by a sun or sucked into a black hole, one of the two, I don’t remember.
Actually it’s said that the Plejaren are about 8,000 years ahead of us technologically now.
Hello MH,
at one point it was 3.500. Could be 8.000 now, with the help of the further developed Timar and others. I haven’t heard an update on that number in a while.
Let’s just say we need to catch up and aim for the near term by surviving. If Earth Humanity can turn things for the better, then maybe then instead of a post apocalyptic wasteland where we would be ~100,000K behind the Ps, we can aim to be ~5000 instead and maybe see in our lifetime our own beamships.
🙂
Hi Marco, according to the CR, Semjase’s husband crashed into a sun during one of his routine work schedule due to some kind of machine failure of his ship. Thanks.
I am not suggesting astral projection. No New Age mumbo jumbo here. The point I was trying to make is that consciousness, just like any other celestial body, disrupts space to set in motion various waves. So the principle I was suggesting would be similar to a machine that disrupts space. But using your consciousness would be much, much more difficult I would imagine. I would think that a person would have to be more advanced than Ptaah, for example, to accomplish spiritual time travel. Please folks, I am learning like everybody else. Just keep in mind, I spend a lot of time thinking about this stuff, so my mind is not tied up by the nonsense of politics, religion, economy and all the other earth human distractions that dull the mind.
Billy actually describes time travel in his book “Existentes Leben im Universum” (“Existing life in the Universe”), which was first published in 1978. The basic principle is relatively easy. If you accelerate the chronons (time particles) around you, you go into the past. If you decelerate them, you go into the future. First we will do this with machines and much much later, we will be able to do it with our consciousness. Pretty simple, isn’t it? No gravity wells and all that fancy mumbo jumbo needed.
Hiya Marco,
Fancy mumbo jumbo ya say. Well maybe. But what Billy describes is basically what I was trying to say. Chronons, as I understand it, are time swinging-waves, that are changing or changeable. In contact 251 Billy specifically says that time travel is accomplished by harnessing the power of black holes.
The way I understand it, chronons are similar to photons, in that they are both particles and a wave at the same time. In contact 251 Billy is talking about humanity being able to harness the energies of black holes and thereby being able to do advanced space- and also time-travel. But that does not mean that you will always need a black hole for that. I’m pretty certain that one day we will be able to use “other means” as well. I found the idea of a stream of concentrated chronons, decelerated around a person or ship very intriguing, visually somewhat close to what one can see in the series (not the movie) 12 Monkeys. Of course the idiotic idea in the series, of changing the past, is totally contradictory to reality. It was still enjoyable though, just like the “Back to the Future” movies.
From Contact 119 Source Future of Mankind
Billy: “…So for example, if tachyons with a speed of light higher than ours and present in a hyperspace or normal space would be stored around a traveling object, then it would be hurled into the past, while a flow of chronons below our current speed of light must have a journey into the future as a consequence. This has become clear to me, but the HOW, that has remained a riddle to me.”
If I had to give my best guess HOW, here it would be. Since swinging waves of all varieties are created when space is disrupted by acceleration, so too is gravity a function of the disruption of space. If we substituted gravity for acceleration to disrupt space, we could also create time swinging waves that way. If we take a look at the past and the future and assign polarity to each value; I think it is safe to say that the future is positive relative to the negative past. The past is fixed, unchangeable while the future is elastic and full of potential change. So if we had a machine that created mini black holes (using tech similar to particle accelerators), it makes sense that if you “steered” the time wave to swing to the negative polarity you would be going into the past; and likewise if you drove your time swinging wave to the positive you would be going to the future. Again folks this may contain errors.
Theoretically, if time travel is really possible, then everything that ever happened in time is accessible and in theory it would be possible to go back or forward and relive events any number of times, possibly with different outcomes every time. The possibilities of changing the structure of events is literally limitless. Perhaps this was done by some race of people at some time, and they have thusly totally destabilized the structure of everything that is. Perhaps this is how the planet Malona came to be destroyed?
Hi Carolyn, it is ages since I read about Malona, but my memory says to me – That the planet was destroyed by emptying some of the ocean into a volcano, causing massive multiple eruptions etc to rip the planet to peices
18 – 42 months is the latest projection for the demise of earth humanity.
My gut instinct tells me 3 years.
Now I realize thete are many neutral-positive and positive thinking individuals here. May you be right and may I be totally wrong.
More on time travel to come. What a fascinating topic, MH !
Dear Paul,
I think it is much more constructive to think about subjects like time travel than it is to think about the blundering of Trump, the potential economic crashes, politics, globalism and bankers, civil wars, world wars, etc. NOT that I want to bury my head in the sand and not see reality. Quite the contrary, I try to be informed about world events but I don’t waste my energy spending all my time there. Personally, I could care less if humanity decides to fall further into demise. The way I see it, human beings learn from their mistakes. So if man messes up his bed, he eventually has to make it. Just give him time….
“The ultimate value of life depends upon awareness and the power of contemplation rather than upon mere survival.” Aristotle
What do scientists know anyway?
But, just so you know, we are hanging by our fingernails at the edge of a cliff while abrupt climate disruption proceeds far faster than anyone thought possible.
Clear thinking dictates preparedness, or at least, awareness of the possibilities.
Being aware is good. Being prepared even better.
The methane clathrate gun has been fired. There is no turning back to “normal.”
Personally, I don’t care who “gets it” or who doesn’t. Death is a highly personal affair and each person should be allowed whatever time they need to deal with it.
Except, there is no more time.
Heat waves, droughts, floods, superstorms “with the power to level cities,” crop failures, disease, parasites, wildfires, water & food resource wars, political and social destabilization … it’s all on the calendar for the next few years.
Not 2100, or even 2050. Try NOW.
I realize most people disagree with my analysis. Take it or leave it, it matters not.
Paul,
I agree with you. In my opinion, the best things folks can do right now to counter this tsunami of bad news, is to do their best to lower their footprint on the environment. Folks have to understand that in today’s bleeped up world spurred on by monstrous overpopulation, we are all, through our daily living of eating, communing, our entertainment, our over consumption, etc., are a destructive burden on mother Earth! Like it or not, you and me, and all the other folks trying to be spiritual, are responsible for the destruction of the pacific ocean with our demand for more and more power for our often useless/overkill electronics, and lifestyles for example.
So what can we do? We can live modestly like the spiritual teaching teaches. This means cutting back on your consumption, anywhere you can, including food. The less you eat in a day the less you are contributing to the horrors of factory farming, fertilizers, pesticides, damns, corporations, oil and shipping, etc. Unless folks live in a cave with no resources, just the skins and the meat of the animals hunted, along with the plants gathered, he/she is contributing to climate change, politics and economics, wars, etc. If you hold the US currency, and her allies, and pay for things, you are supporting wars, govt coups, banking abuse, and a hegemony that allows its users a good life, while the rest of the planet is lucky to have a job, let alone anything to eat!
Folks can consciously cut back on their driving. Walk to locations more often. Cut back on purchasing things, and be content with 7 year old TV, 10 year old car, 2 or older year phone, etc. A person can feel content knowing, that no matter how bad Earth humans destroy the world, he/she is doing their best to make the world a better place with their little part.
There are responses from Rose awaiting approval, once she confirms her identity, etc.
MH,
This is so wizard! Thank you so much.
Personally, my interest in time travel is NOT to escape anything. Quite the contrary, when Earth humans finally discover time travel, it will no doubt be crude and DANGEROUS.
There are so many problems to solve in order to make a successful jump. Something a lot of people don’t even consider is that in time travel it would be important to consider the location in space of the earth at any given time. Unless you have life support, a person could start off on solid ground and end up in space or end up in solid rock. And this could end your trip real fast….
Early time travel technology is sure to easily get you lost somewhere in the space/time continuum. I would image that early time travelers rarely get back home.
So you better love the adventure. Another concern you might have, from a spiritual point, as Billy has said, is that if you die in the past, your next incarnations don’t come back to the future. Or in other words, you lose you forward progress and begin your incarnations from where you left off. What if you die in a foreign time/space configuration? I would imagine you get lost there and would lose your storage bank access that you have been building up on Earth, because you would now be reincarnating in that foreign space/time.
No matter how dangerous, I would be willing to be a temporal driver. I love to observe and prefer the experience rather than reading about it in a history book. Obviously time travel technology is probably not going to happen this lifetime for us non-secret military. And my next incarnation personality might care less about time travel and maybe not be as adventurous. But I hope that I have future lifetimes where I get to be a driver.