Pentagon and US Navy Officially Confirm UFOs
According to Christopher Mellon, former United States Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence at the Pentagon, UFOs of extraterrestrial origin definitely exist.
The US Navy has also just gone on record unequivocally stating that they have proof that the UFOs are real.
Definitive Corroboration of UFO Contact
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Most importantly – and as some media now recognize – it’s the scientific information from the Plejaren that often contains critical warnings about events that threaten our future survival:
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NOTE: The newest Gallup Poll shows two-thirds of Americans also believe the UFO phenomenon is real.
See also: Billy Meier’s Environmental Warnings
MH, has Joe Tysk got round to reading the contact reports yet or he is still digesting the material evidence? If so, what does he think of the CR?
I think he is doing further research into various aspects of the Meier contacts.
Major Hans C. Petersen of the Danish Air Force went on record that he saw a flying saucer right after George Adamski’s airplane landed in Denmark. Reports like that are plentiful in the Adamski and Menger UFO contact cases. Do you honestly expect me to believe that witnesses like an Airforce Major were somehow hypnotized like Billy Meier claims?
We don’t want you to believe anything. It’s up to you look at the details and examine for yourself what is true. The truth doesn’t require any belief.
Ed, there is a huge difference between “sighting” a craft and having “contact” with an alien being. Sightings are not contact, no matter what the tards at mufon say. But they say it so everyone can be “special”. Sightings have happened to pretty much everyone I know. The bigger picture in case you’re not shallow, is what are they telling us?
I could see why advanced ET’s would want to live on Venus. It is very easy to make mashed potatoes there. One doesn’t need any cooking equipment or energy, one simply rolls the potatoes out the door! And who can argue with the infinite wisdom of Orthon, as he teaches us that… nuclear war is dangerous. A spiritual genius no less!
Ed … what do YOU want / need to believe. With due respect to wherever you are in your overall understanding, permit me to momentarily have fun with a word .. for example the term ‘believe’ … it has the word ‘lie’ in the middle. ((-;]
I remember the time Michael Horn completely dismantled the facade that was Stanton Friedman. One of the biggest names is UFOlogy completely -poof- evaporated.
Archived for your enjoyment here:
https://gregdougall.wordpress.com/2015/10/01/part-2-of-ufo-grandfather-stanton-friedman-vs-michael-horn-on-authenticity-billy-meier-e-t-contact-case/
Before Stanton Friedman died did he say he thought the Meier case is authentic?
Peace, Scott.
I remember listening to this
This is historic, military confirms UFO are real. Something must be brewing, They fought so hard to cover up the ET phenomenon.
I suspect something is brewing … the norm of ‘officialdom’ usually shows efforts to control.
It’s simply a distraction so every moving light in the sky will be a UFO. Meanwhile you are under surveillance and your biometrics recorded. It’s not enough that all your email, text messages and phone calls are recorded, they also want to know your every move. And drones will fly freely through our skies because everyone will feel special for seeing that “UFO”. An example would be in 2015 Hamilton cops using their drone, trying to catch bad cops aka project Pharoah was in the news while the alien cosmic expo attendees just knew all those “UFO” lights was a sign that the aliens were visiting their event lol.
I’m about to revisit Pt 2 of the Friedman / MH discussion that Greg kindly posted. Personally, I cannot verify, for Scott, as to whether or not Friedman ever admitted authenticity to the Meier story. I can share this … it is another example of the word ‘anecdote’ [heard several times in the MH / Friedman contest] but a friend of mine, Mickey Halsall, [a now deceased Englishman] who introduced me to the Meier story in 1987, had joined with my father and brother to go to a ufo conference held in St. Paul, Alberta Canada. This would have been 1990 or ’91, and I cannot provide the name of the person who covered the Meier stuff. It so happened that, on an intermission after the Meier presentation, Mickey Halsall found himself standing beside Friedman in the men’s room. Mickey asked Friedman, [paraphrasing] “well, sir, care to give me your perception of the Meier material?” Friedman was quite short in answering with a reply [paraphrased] “there’s no way the evidence could be scientifically proven real.” Now, on to Pt 2.
Friedman learned about the investigation in the early 1980s, as I recall, and wanted to participate in examining the evidence, etc.
Wendelle Stevens excluded him, as he wisely did with the other clowns in UFOlogy, so that the evidence wouldn’t be contaminated by their ineptitude, personal agendas, etc.
Right MH … I was pointing toward the fact that Stanton, being a scientist, replied to my friend with a statement contrary to the science conducted by the Elders team.
Yes, John…egos, egos, egos.
I’ve often wondered due to the explanation in the contact reports of the Betty and Barney Hill saga as being due to electromagnetic forces, if the physicist Stan Friedman wasn’t part of the electromagnetic experiment in the first place? Look at his history and who he worked for. Sort of like the Mufon muttons investigating MIC craft to show MIC what their craft looks like out “in the wild”. How Spacex had a “UFO video” on their website which was actually their Dragon craft. Westinghouse into electromagnetic experiments?
Since Stan Friedman told me he had had a heart attack in 2014 I didn’t want to rile him up over the Meier case because he was too busy flogging the blue book stuff. He was pleasant enough but I agree with MH it was his ego and probably a little perturbed that he wasn’t allowed in on the investigation in the first place.
John Webster if you’ve known about the Meier case since 1987, what has prevented you from looking into it until now…32 years later?
Xila Clark .. certainly a worthy question. Off the top of my head, I’ve been on this blog but a short while … the Meier story has indeed been sort of a mild [kept to myself] underpinning in my more recent life [be it 32 yrs.] Currently at 66, the math would tell of other intricate experiences … which can be considered contrary to truth found on this blog site, so eloquently laid out and published by author, M. Horn.
John Webster, I’ve had high strangeness too that I’ve never attributed to the supernatural because I knew deep down that there is a logical explanation for everything and strangely enough I happened to find all the answers that I had through the Meier material. For example the pain I got at the base of my brain when my mom passed away, I just knew she had passed although I was still about a 30 minutes drive away from her. The explanation I found in the 6th and 7th senses.
So what has happened to you personally that does not jive with the material that M. Horn has so eloquently laid out on his blog? Thanks in advance for your response.
Xila, I could have better worded my thoughts in response to your worthy question. Since discovering the Meier stuff 32 years ago, my life [relationship with myself] has improved significantly. The rest of my time on Earth [the other34 yrs] was spent, shall I say, erratically. I simply wrestled my way throughout puberty, into early teenhood, on through finishing high school, into the work world, failed in two marriages … generally not treating myself reasonably / respectfully etc. Although I was never violent in any way to others [flora & fauna included] it simply took a few decades to sort myself out! All common stuff in regular human terms, which were quite opposite as to how life can be lived when applying the spiritual aspects we study from the Meier material. Thanks for asking, hope that answers …
The only project Blue Book I need is the Goblet Of The Truth!
John Webster, that wasn’t what I was asking for. Can you be specific about your “other intricate experiences … which can be considered contrary to the truth found on this blog site”. Thanks again in advance.
Xila Clark .. I think I should simply apologize for wherever my above improper wording took you. The “other intricate experiences” are relative to the times I wasn’t performing to my full potential as a male human. As for [high strangeness] … well I certainly have some of [that] in my history too, but, to be fair to the moderator, and the point of this blog, it’s probably better discussed in another ‘room’ so-to-speak. And, for what it’s worth, I live in BC Canada.
John Webster…yes I know you’re from BC Canada as you’ve typed that numerous times, but that doesn’t let you off the hook. I think you need to keep working on that man thing because all the men I know from this community are men who say what they mean and mean what they say. Why can’t you? You were the one that typed it and you should explain what you meant by it.
When someone in the military reads CR 251, it’s going to get them thinking, ‘Where are we going from here?’ A prophecy of people that are half-animal and half-machine/robot/cyborg, what’s the military going to do? Ending all production of nuclear weapons and all other things of war is of critical importance.
Melissa,
“The name Beamship originates from a type of ship used for a period of 400 years and which WAS equipped with a drive system that emitted rays into the environment. As a result, the entire area BENEATH the ship was immersed in such a GLIMMERING HEAT that all the objects near and far appeared distorted and blurred while distance seemed to change. “-
“In the year 1975, these old ships were put out of commission, returned to their home planet of Erra and scrapped. With the succeeding types, this unpleasant radiating effect no longer occurs, although the name BEAMSHIP is still in use today” –
And Still…They Fly
Second Edition, Paperback
ISBN 0-9711523-1-4
Thanks, Luis, I rather like the name myself. I look forward to someday taking a cruise across the Universe, in a galaxy far, far away. 🙂
Diametrically two opposing forces are at play here hegelian dialetical style to control the narrative regarding UFOs because the geni is out of the bottle now and theres nothing even the shadow elites can do to suppress this tide.
Just confuse the masses with contradictons and steer them towards their misinformation and disinformation like Ptaah called it out as.
The masses know what the term UFO means but they don’t know exactly what those UFOs are.
What is better for the people running the UFO black budget special access project for the masses to think it as, a UFO of ET origin or a secret manmade flying devices, I would choose the former if I was them.
The most noble cause of our contemporary times is a World Wide Birth Ban with equal Birth Control for multiple years in order to salvage the future. Decelerating births is only way save the future.
Every interested person should start to translate this for themselves, page by page, using online translators. While imperfect, you will come away with an unprecedented, staggering, shocking realization of the REAL unimaginably monstrous magnitude of the now truly UNSTOPPABLE climate destruction and its causes, known and not known:
https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/zeitzeichen/figu_zeitzeichen_sa_003.pdf
One would THINK that artist would translate the times and be impregnated with songs of inspiration about the bad romance with overpopulation by lifting their voices and melodies so that future is salvageable.
According Plejaren logic (which is reasonable) Terra (Earth, the twin planet to Erra) can only sustain 500 million humans. At 8.9 billion humans on Earth, this mean it would take 1,780 Earth(s) to provide sufficient living for humans.
Self denial of Overpopulation is the flat earth belief. A worldwide Birth Ban and equal birth control is the only way to salvage the future from this horrendous and monstrous illogic. Every human of the earth must decide its own future now to salvage it.
17.8 earths correction
From CR 251 … interesting info when applied to the title of this blog post.
Billy:
“Carlos Diaz, a purported contactee, what do you think of him?”
Ptaah:
“You pose an illogical question, for I already explained that no human beings on Earth maintain any contacts with extraterrestrial intelligences. Therefore he is a liar, fraud and cheat.”
Billy:
“I would like to ask for additional information about the following: Are you familiar with Area 51; Roswell, the 1947 incident in New Mexico; a UFO crash in Aztec, New Mexico, similar to the one in Roswell, but a year later; a third crash at the Mexican border in ’49 or ’50; and, in addition, do Americans in Area 51 have some extraterrestrial corpses along with one ET whom they hold captive, and who may now be alive?”
Ptaah:
“I have already stated several times that these matters fall under my pledge of secrecy because they are associated with government, military and national security affairs. I am not permitted, therefore, to speak about these issues officially, but I can speak to you in confidence — under four eyes — as you like to refer to it. Needless to say, it would indeed present a danger to you if you officially possessed such information. Let us keep things the way they are now.”
Billy:
“That’s ok, it was only a last attempt. Then back to Michael Hesemann. What do you think of him?”
Ptaah:
“He would be a very valuable individual in disseminating the truth about our entire Mission and beyond; if only he would desist being influenced to such a great extent by lies, deceit, fraud and charlatanry, and if he were more courageous in disseminating the genuine truth instead of so much nonsense that is presented in his books and magazine.”
Billy:
“You are expressing my opinion as well.”
Ptaah:
“Truly, he could be a person to be accorded the required trust to disseminate Mission material, if only he would possess the courage to commit himself to it.”
Billy:
“I know, but, unfortunately, this essential factor does not seem to exist. What about future contacts with extraterrestrials, may we speak about them now?”
Ptaah:
“Unfortunately this remains impossible. Nonetheless, I am, or rather you are, permitted to reveal that new events will soon occur.”
Billy:
“You mean the fact that time is fast approaching when official contacts with extraterrestrials will take place?”
Ptaah:
“Of course. I have told you about them. In times to come, many things will occur and changes ensue with regard to extraterrestrial aircraft, their crews as well as terrestrial, mysterious and exotic-looking flying craft. Extraterrestrial contacts may be expected, but they will be completely different from the current contacts that these many lying, deceitful and fraudulent would-be contactees have portrayed them to be through their religious-sectarian absurdities and other things. Immensely significant new discoveries are also forthcoming that will take place on Earth, on the Moon, Mars and beyond, as you have previously stated and extensively revealed in your 23page report without mentioning the specific dates for particular events.”
Billy:
“It would have been wrong to name the years or the exact days and months and so forth.”
Ptaah:
“I have already stated that you acted correctly. Regarding this correctness, I would like to point out something that is not particularly pleasant: After observing what has been transpiring over the past years, I have noticed that only a small number of Core Group members have sufficient capabilities to write in a such a manner that they can produce their own foreordained texts and books through their individual volition and ability. This is particularly grave among the male group members, excluding Guido. The situation with various female group members is much more positive. With regard to current writings in the way of upcoming books and writings, I find the required labor-intense corrections and revisions absolutely frightful, and this applies also to the required sentence structure to achieve the appropriate wording.”
Billy:
“Our people simply are not writers, and often they do not have the ability to write well.”
Ptaah:
“There are at least three male group members who are convinced that their literary effusions are of unique quality. Should their works be published, however, they would require complete re-editing, proof-reading [the old German expression ‘korrektiert’ is used here] and revising so that they would be both stylistically correct and readable.”
Billy:
“That’s a fine mess. But tell me, from where do you know the term ‘korrektieren’?”
Ptaah:
“This is a very old, long-gone term in Old German that means something is, or must be, “put right” again.”
Billy:
“I know this too, my friend, because I use this term all the time.”
Ptaah:
“It is a word-merit that briefly and concisely expresses the meaning.”
Billy:
“I am pleased that I am no longer the only one who knows and uses this term. But it seems that nowadays nobody really knows it any more – even in academic books one cannot find anything about it, as though it had never existed.”
Ptaah:
“It is shown in our old German language records, however.”
Billy:
“Well, this won’t help me here. – And our “great authors” will be “elated” by your words.”
Ptaah:
“It would be pointless not to speak about this fact, for the errors would never be recognized. On the other hand I would be lying if I praised them, and such actions are foreign to us. – The written works produced in the aforementioned manner truly cannot be published until they have been thoroughly re-edited.”
Billy:
“And who is to do all this re-editing?”
Ptaah:
“Probably you will not find the time, although you are predestined to do it. And yet, perhaps, you should not be considered for this task. I would like to suggest that Mariann does it, if she is willing; but it would take up a much of her time and would restrict her freedom. Although a few female members in the Core Group could also perform this task, they, too, have very little spare time. Therefore, we must drop this subject for now and see what can be done about it in the future.”
It’s nothing new. Meier and his Plejarens started attacking other people in Ufology since the first contact report. That’s part of their “mission.”
That’s complete and utter nonsense. If that’s what you get out of the thousands of pages of the Meier material and the mission as a whole, you need to start over and before the beginning. It’s amazing how so many people can have something right in front of them and still refuse to see.
Melissa, it’s right there in the first and second contact report. The introduction of the religion (Creation), and the discrediting of other contactees. Go read it.
Where did you get the distorted idea that speaking the Creation is “religion”? And where is the actual, independently authenticated evidence for “the other contacts”? Why do we never see any?
Michael, I have prophetic information for you. In the 1950s there was a contactee by the name of Howard Menger. He had photographs, films and eyewitnesses who even went on live radio which was the communication standard back then supporting his case. Menger wrote a book about his contactee experiences in 1959. The name of the book is ‘From Outerspace To You.’ (There are PDF files on the internet – do a search and you can read the book.) In chapter 24 his allegedly alien contacts reveal that they are not the only ones contacting the people of the Earth. There’s another group that tries to undermine them and use a distorted form of religion. Fast forward 15 years and here’s Billy Meier and his Plejarens trying to debunk every other UFO case while inserting a new religion that was supposed to be the Original one but there’s no proof whatsoever.
So Michael, what does this all mean? There are different groups out there. There’s a fight on for the hearts and minds of the people of Earth. Do you realize what you are actually doing?
Ed,
Again, if you have specific, credible, independently authenticated information, evidence, etc., then you can submit it here. We don’t care enough about people like Adams and Menger, etc., to bother doing searches.
Of course, with two new articles now appearing in the Express, published in your country, about Meier’s specific information about Apophis, you might want to sit down, our yourself a cup of tea (or whatever) and ask yourself:
“Ed, shall we give a moment’s thought to what might be more important, not only to us but to many MILLIONS of people in the overall area – okay, maybe BILLIONS on the…PLANET – dicking around with old UFO nonsense, or considering what Billy Meier and the Plejaren are warning will happen if our world’s scientists don’t take their advice?”
Oh Ed, come on, let’s move on from Menger and Adamski. They have nothing to offer humanity. I just saw in the news yesterday that they found about 20 more moons around Saturn. Quetzal told us this would happen 25 to 30 years ago. Come on, move on.
Ed Visser…it means according to Billy Meier’s information the Giza Intelligence were removed in 2006. Look up the Giza Intelligence as they were the ones using religion to control people and their lasting effects may linger for a few hundred more years.
Or it could be the Bafath who were removed in about 1978 due to their aspirations of having humanity kill each other.
Would you read some of material instead of yapping about the Menger crap. He said his aliens were from Venus for crying out loud. Surely that should have been your first indication he was a liar. And you call yourself an investigator?
5 unsmiley yellow-skinned crabby face eyes popping out down votes for you.
NOTE: I’ve removed a part of the comment that wasn’t relevant to the content of the Meier contacts.
MH
I do have another question for you Michael, if you would indulge me. Back in the 1980s Guido Moosbrugger more or less did your job and held lectures. One of those lectures was in the Netherlands, my homecountry, and an article appeared in a Dutch magazine called ‘Aktueel’ with Guido Moosbrugger. It was of course about the Meier case, it showed the classic beamship pictures and the ET message centered around overpopulation of mankind on the Earth. There was one really strange matter. There was a depiction, a drawing of Semjase and she looked like a female with brunette hair but there was also one major exception. She had large, black almond-shaped eyes. Do you know why Semjase was depicted as a Grey hybrid back in the 1980s?
Hi Ed,
You mention that the article contained the drawing of a female with “large, black almond-shaped eyes”. First, the question would be, did Guido show this image in his lecture? I doubt it, since not only do the Plejaren NOT have such strange eyes but also the so-called “Grey hybrids” are a…fabrication promoted by the idiotic UFO community and its so-called “experts”.
Of course, they are either unaware of, or deliberately promote, the disinformation from the intelligence agencies, etc., based on the…android beings that were discovered at Roswell, and perhaps other crashes:
http://www.theyfly.com/Israeli_Intrigues.html
Michael, I remember the article vividly. I flipped the page back a few times because those black slanted eyes freaked me out. Why Semjase was depicted that way I don’t know. The article did show the classic beamship pictures and touched upon themes such as overpopulation so the core material was consistent other wise. If I’m not mistaken Mr Moosbrugger passed away so I guess it would be hard to check on that from the FIGU side.
But has it occured to you that the story of Bob Lazar also has a strange connection to the Meier case? Lazar claimed to have been employed at Area 51 were he worked on an alien craft. The craft he drew is remarkably similar to Semjase’s Beamship, and he added the interior of the craft held small seats…
Since Guido also wrote the book “And Still They Fly”, which came out after the article, you’ll see that no such drawing was included. You can find a more accurate drawing of her here:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/File:SemjaseByDejan.jpg
What has occurred to me is that Lazar had an interview with George Knapp,in 1987, and mentioned the Billy Meier photos. “I too fail to understand why anyone thinks there’s even a speck of benefit and and value to humankind regarding Lazar. In my opinion, its only worth writing about to show how it’s used to distract from the Meier material.
As I said before, paraphrasing what Meier’s said: “It’s doubly mystifying that anyone with real familiarity with Meier’s content would even bother to conjecture about the evidence-less tales from Lazar. It’s been said over and over and it’ll be said again, if he had an iota of truly valuable, classified info, he’d be dead for having shared it.”
Ed Visser…you’re ticked off because “Meier and his Plejarens” attacked other people’s nonsense?
This can be translated into:
“Ed Visser knows that Meier and his Plejarens are REAL cause they hurt his feelings!”
Thanks for helping with the mission Ed Visser lol.
No Xila, I’m ticked off because I know Meier and his Plejarens are liars. They are the exact thing they accuse others off…
Ed,
Just a suggestion here. You’ve been busy attacking Meier and the Plejarens, their evidence, information and the spiritual teaching for all these years. So, don’t you think that before you tackled something that’s quite obviously light years beyond your understanding, you’d have attained at least basic competence in some field that shows you know how to think at a level beyond the comic book, sci-fi and disinformation that you constantly regurgitate?
Apart from being a proponent of the Adams hoax, what is it that qualifies you discuss this topic…let alone call Billy Meier a liar?
Ed Visser…there are so many liars out there but Meier and the Plejaren are not liars. You seem to be stuck on Menger and Adamski simply because theirs are the same craft as what you saw. Big deal. I have a family member who has seen every craft out there, anything you can dream up, he’s seen. He’s not running around boasting about it because he knows most are secret military craft. Both of us also know that Canada had UFO craft in military hangars since the early ’50s because a recently deceased family friend said he saw the UFO while he was in the military. He also said Canada and the US held joint exercises in the Arctic during this time and everyone was debriefed/drugged/hypnotized afterwards. This craft could have been Adamski’s sighting because military loved experimenting in Manitoba for some sick reason. So whatever you saw or think you saw really doesn’t matter when it comes to the big picture.
Really MH…. What qualifies Meier to be a UFO authority and call others lairs, cheaters and frauds???
Meier spend years in prison. I never got so much as a parking ticket. Meier deserted from the French Army. I served in the military and was honorbly discharged. I never claimed to be some spiritual authority. Meier certainly did with his reincarnation claims. And the world is supposed to believe Meier on the basis of some UFO pictures and film?
Even if Meier is in regular contact with ETs you can’t accept anything at face value. Only open diplomatic contact will show who these Plejarens are. Accepting all the claims about reincarnation, JWHW’s, Nokodemion without any evidence is simply religion…
Ed,
The fact that you ask that question, and then attempt your flimsy discrediting, while having done nothing that would qualify as actual research and investigation, just adds to the obviousness of your agenda and your role as a dabbler.
While you don’t really want answers, perhaps you could give some. Have you, in all these years and with your proximity to the center being far closer than any of us in the states – and many other places – ever gone there and…asked the questions first hand? Using your kind of comparison: You never got off your butt and I’ve been to the center 20 times. Of course, that in itself means nothing, any more than your statements do. But you’re just a dissatisfied griper who’s seen things he couldn’t identify, and got tricked by a couple of charlatans.
As I said, you really don’t want answers or, certainly, like many thousands of other people who haven’t gone to FIGU, you’d have discerned the truthfulness, and value, of the still ongoing Meier contacts for yourself.
Xila,
I’m not claiming everything is true regarding George Adamski and Howard Menger, but they had photographs, films and eyewitnesses to support some of their claims. That completely contradicts Meier’s claims (Adamski&Menger using hypnosis) whose case rests on the same principals… You don’t seem to grasp the irony here. Deception is at play here… And not just with the Meier case. Read some off Jacques Vallee’s books.
Ed,
I don’t think you’ve ever commented on what the…reason for any real UFO contacts would be. Certainly there’s absolutely nothing of significance conveyed by any of the people who’ve claimed to be contactees. The uniquely important, prophetically accurate information provided to, and published by, Meier is overflowing with specifics about events, many of which have already occurred, be they scientific, environmental, geopolitical, etc.
We see that the easily deduced reason for the ones that are warnings, many of which date back decades and even beyond, has been to help us assure our own very threatened future survival. Yet not a one of the phony contactees has ever brought forward any such information…unless they’re plagiarizing Meier. Of course they can’t, since they’re simply lying because of their own self-serving ambitions, etc.
Just so you know, we’re not going to approve any more comments – from anyone – who wants to keep beating the dead horse about non-existent “other contactees”, nor those who attack Meier’s authenticity without first credibly refuting Joe Tysk’s analysis and authentication:
https://theyflyblog.com/2018/01/22/usaf-osi-investigator-concludes-billy-meier-ufo-case-real/
The fact is that the issue of the singular authenticity of the Meier contacts has not only long been settled, but Tysk’s definitive article is just that, which is also why the skeptics have retreated and, since most are unscientific cowards and blowhards, not only don’t try to refute Tysk’s analysis, they won’t acknowledge Meier’s authenticity.
So, to all concerned, that’s the way it’s going to go from here on. Your comments and thoughts are welcome regarding this approach, so long as they don’t violate it.
Ed. You’re showing you haven’t truly understand this, or, any other case. Adamski’s films and photos are obvious fakes because the focus, detail, camera movements, lighting, colour, etc., indicate hoaxing, can be tested (or not).
Adamski looks like he fixed small UFO models to a pane of glass and his body / camera movements created the UFO movement. We do the same thing when we move our head around a mark on a window when close to it. By bobbing our heads up and down whilst focusing slightly on the horizon and the mark, we can make the mark seem to fly around. The effect is obvious in his films because distant landscape objects in his movies are out of focus because he couldn’t set his focus to eternity due to then giving the game away with the model. It’s the details like this you have to recognise and research before making any claims.
Very nice analysis on the photos Matt.
Thanks Xila. I’m not going to say, “…for the Flowers” as that’s such a copycat, Billy’s thing. Personally, I can use all the compliments I can get. 🙂
Matt, Adamski’s films and photographs
NOTE: I think we’ve all been more than patient and generous in giving Ed an opportunity to actually discuss the Billy Meier UFO contacts. It’s clear that he doesn’t really want to and actually…can’t handle the requirements for doing so.
Ed has his own blog for discussing the things that interest him and, unless any further comments from him are really on topic, they absolutely will not be approved here for posting.
MH
Excuse me for intruding on the above argument … don’t mean to be rude … but lately I’ve enjoyed introducing the Meier information to friends & acquaintances. I also introduce them to this blog … and so far, several of my friends have already indicated the oddballs who appear with their published disgruntlements … AND the defensive verbiage. So, allow me to reintroduce a favourite quote from someone I respect in the world of literature: “[resistance] will bring about the opposite of [its intent.] Why not simply ignore those who bring in unecessary frequencies?
Because the comment section would be turned into a den of lies by those who like to post their fake, phony, delusional and libelous drivel.
I agree Melissa. This blog sometimes gets clogged with false information like for example being able to tell by reading a comment what frequency it is. Just like a used car salesman, if you buy this model, just by tuning your radio waves you too can attain a “higher frequency” and then you’ll be able to drive into wonderful new “dimensions” – new age nonsense. Things that cannot be ignored.
As I understand, the ‘comment section’ is moderated by those charged with the duty to moderate. So … to say again, why does a moderator need to publish ANYTHING from the likes of Ed Visser? Obviously, when disgruntled commenters are NOT published by the moderator, then, obviously, there’s no need to publish any verbiage to defend and protect Meier, Plejaren etc. There can be no posted ‘den of lies’ when moderation [avoidance of extremes] is properly applied. It’a a no-brainer!
Everyone has a right to their opinions and beliefs, but we also have the right to not accept their delusions.
Then, respectfully, I suggest not publishing the ‘delusions’ … because obviously there would be no further impetus for moderators / other contributors to retaliate and defend the mission. Let’s keep things closer to ‘noble’. I’m satisfied with the most recent from MH, “Just so you know, we’re not going to approve any more comments – from anyone – who wants to keep beating the dead horse about non-existent “other contactees”, nor those who attack Meier’s authenticity without first credibly refuting Joe Tysk’s analysis and authentication.”
Maybe we should stop beating this dead horse?
Please stop with the moderator suggestions as Melissa is doing a fine job.
Melissa Osaki likes this. Yellow-skinned smiley face.
John, Would it be fair to say you like the idea of offering no resistance, but, have proven it’s impossible in practise as you were unable to ignore the perceived “oddballs” and “defensive verbiage”?
Oh, you’re absolutely correct, Matt … and I resist you not! Now … back to translating huge blocks of information as posted by MH’s suggestion to do so. https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/zeitzeichen/figu_zeitzeichen_sa_003.pdf
A lot of that has been translated here: http://skillssolon.com/index.php/2019/09/29/excerpts-from-the-722nd-contact-report-of-8-august-2019/
There’s quite a quantity of repetition in the 722nd report … to say the least … but I suppose it’s all about transliteration … in ALL of the CR’s.
Even elementary school teachers know that learning anything has to be repeated 3 times for children to remember it.
Exactly!
John let me barge in by saying what then was the point of everything that Billy and the Plejaren ever admonished and spoke about regarding the wrongs that the various individuals and organisations committed such as GWB snr, jnr, ISIS, EU, CIA, Trump, Hillary, Adamski, Barbara Handclow etc.
I think you have lost the point in all this.
Just as the Plejaren had stated they state the truth as they are and in these horrible times especially amongst the sea of bad frequencies there is never a more appropriate time as this that people who are in the know clarify and state the truth against the irrational forces that people like Ed create due to their stupidity, abject ignorance and donkey stubborn unwillingness to learn anything.
There are lessons to be learnt here if you can see it.
Ed Visser… The difference is Adamski and Menger had photographs and maybe some witnesses and nothing else. Only sightings, which many of us have had, big deal. They did not have CONTACTS no matter what the tards at mufon say about sightings being contacts, they aren’t.
Meier was sent to a home for unruly teenagers because he had issues with his teacher, hardly a prison. I doubt there are many who didn’t lash out at school. But you, you’ve done nothing of the sort? I highly doubt it. I bet you’ve never gotten a parking ticket because you always say “don’t you know who I am”. After a political leader Thomas Mulcair ran two stop signs on parliament hill caught on tape, funny how he never got a ticket either. I also know police can be vindictive as well, saw that firsthand.
Meier has video and sound recordings that cannot be reproduced. And never forget that Marcel Vogel from IBM analyzed the metal sample. No other case compares to Billy Meier’s EVIDENCE.
Right, Melissa … and I actually loathe the phrasing ‘beating this dead horse’ … because a horse is among the most beautiful of creatures … and knowing that it [they] contribute, along with every living being, to CO2 emissions … I’m the type who cannot even swat a fly. Imagine, Meier swatting a fly [a video I’ve seen] … imagine the Plejaren determining which creature has merit, and which creature has less merit! It’s in the CR material.
Are you a vegan John Webster? Flies carry disease, why would you not kill them in your house? Would you allow a mouse in your house when you consider the hantavirus? Would you allow ticks in your house when you consider Lyme disease? Would you allow mosquitoes or spiders to bite you? It’s our duty to protect our health.