Open Topics Discussion Board
This is the Open Topics section where people can feel free to post, and invite, discussions about topics not discussed elsewhere on the blog. We will still require that any claims challenging the authenticity of Billy Meier’s contacts, evidence, etc., contain substantiation or they won’t be approved.
Please use discernment and stay focused on logic and truth.
Did any of you watch the Redacted on the disappearance of flight MH370 last night?
I thought it was interesting and I’m not too sure what to make of it…
Hi, Chris Day
I am on the opinion that it was a human error on behalf of the ukrainian-anti-russian militant personnel. The colours of that unfortunate plane remind too much of tho colours of the russian Airfleet (АЕРОФΛОТ). That is why it was taken down by an old soviet type of missile OAK (БУК). That’s it really. Just a bunch of idiots with fairly powerful guns.
Do you have evidence that it was taken down by an old soviet type of missile OAK?
I do apologise for my mistake. I thought it was regarding the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17/MAS17) which was shot down over Ukraine in 17th July 2014.
Thanks for clarifying. I was wondering if that might be the case.
I have an off topic question that hasn’t been addressed in this forum and was inspired by the word “Evidence”
Melissa.
Is there any evidence that there wasn’t digital photography technologies in the mid 70’s like 1976 -77-78 and us earth worms were not told there was because the powers that be hide the actual level of technologies from us as we were told in the contact reports by the Plejaren during conversations with Billy Meier ?
Not hearsay but actual evidence that there wasn’t.
A simple warranted legitimate question.
D.
Ashton Forbes has a Tube channel were he does live casting on topics from UFO’s to MH 370.
He would likely interview Michael and ask a boat load of interesting questions. I have mentioned this case to him in chat and Emailed him about it but I think he needs a more direct contacting perhaps more officially from Theyfly.
He got on MH 370 like a blood hound. If he were to get interested in this case it would get a ferocious advocate. His email escapes me right now but if Michael is interested I will find it.
Hi Franco,
Thanks for your efforts. It’s best if someone other me sends people suggestions for an interview, because when I send them, it comes off as too self-promoting.
If you want to send this it would be great:
https://youtu.be/r8GbQwHcOnQ
Thanks.
OK, Ashton is a decent person who is after the truth. If I have to Email him everyday I will. He is UFO person who will initially be interested in the technology and the evidence. Marcel Vogels metal analysis will impress him as will Wendell’s photos. He is a good young gun.
Great. I just found his email address: MH370x@proton.me
Thank you so much!
Oh, thank you, I was going to look for that address..
In fact I just watched it last night! Since this planet is full of lies I listened to it attentively and was captured by the depth of the analysis. I am looking for Ashton Forbes’s email address to send him the blog info. He should understand/welcome it more easily since he must have struggled to get his information, or should if what he presents is accurate.
It’s too bad I don’t know anyone anymore at Motorola/Freescale located in my old neighborhood when I lived Oak Hill. I mention this because back then the town was small and I would talk to many of the employees during lunch time when they purchased their sandwich at the small French bakery. I was also their main language provider for 13 years for Japanese, English and French, never Chinese though.
Me too, I was very intrigued at what I was seeing, also being well aware that a trail of lies can also be followed.
Something also caught my attention, Freescale are specialists in high power RF devices, specifically GaN FET, I was having a conversation on this blog about this very topic and I also mentioned Heaviside, Bearden and transmitter technology,
Watching a video on his channel after someone mentioned it in the comments, I found him to be talking about all these topics, in relation to directed energy weapons.
A quick google of Freescale RF and the top results are listed “non-NDA” while this is normal for a company there is obviously military applications.
The first video I find posted back in 2014 is surprise surprise, talking about high power GaN devices.
https://youtu.be/LqaNygK2xBc?t=207
You know when you laugh to yourself because things just seem to co-incidental?
Not that any of this really matters, but I do find it interesting.
I would really curious on what the Plejaren and Billy would say about the disappearance of flight MH370. I have searched the keyword “MH370” on all the contact reports, the result is none.
It’s not surprising that Plejaren dont mention MH370 if Ashton’s findings are accurate. This event goes to the heart of dark govt activity and technology. Billy does not need to become their target, he is here to bring the spiritual teachings.
Greetings,
The year 2029 keeps coming up. Does this coincide with Billy’s passing and the impact of the Apophis Asteroid in 2029? 1,124 km [698 miles] from the North Sea to Switzerland.
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14. 5) Everything of the group that is now to be acquired should be prepared according to earthly standards and opportunities and be brought to application because nothing should be templated according to our Erran patterns.
15. The Earth-humans live on Earth, so everything must be handled and must be regulated according to earthly values, which is surely to be understood.
16. 6) Even if we must cancel our official contacts, as it was planned, we will continue to linger on the Earth and will maintain contact with you, but we will otherwise remain only as observers and not in an active and intervening form.
17. This, at least until the year 2029, after which, presumably, we will then finally remove ourselves and will turn our attention to other tasks that are foreign to the Earth, with the assurance that we permanently withdraw ourselves into our time dimension and never again return to this space-time configuration.
18. 7) More effort from all group members must urgently be put forth in all things if everything should now lead to success.
19. This also applies to the foreigners…
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_194
CR705 lists 2028 as the Plejaren withdrawl year.
I would like to see a donation only for folks that has the spare money, so folks that can’t afford Billy’s books can get them free or at least just charge them for the shipping. Take my grandson for instance, he lives with my daughter who is disabled and just draws a SSI check, and it doesn’t cover all the bills plus buy some food. He is working but can’t afford to buy a vehicle to go back and forth to work so he has to get back and forth to work the best way he can. He helps pay the bills and buys food and on top of that his sister lives there with them too and she has two young sons that he tries to help support too, because the daddy to those two babies if you ask me was just a sperm donor. I myself am disabled and I’m on SSDI and I can’t afford to buy him any books. When I used to live next to him he would borrow my books that Billy wrote to read them. And I’m sure there’s other folks that are kind of in the same boat and it would be nice to set up some type of donation for Billy’s books that folks can’t afford to purchase them.
I don’t have any spare money, but since the call went out it should be answered. What books do you need? It sounds like the first one you need is the might of the thoughts. We figueans need to help one another any way we can and I am sure WE will.
Thanks Mark Rudd! Yes indeed might of the thoughts is one of the books he read and also all the other books I have that Billy wrote that’s been translated into English, I have all of them. He has quite a few FIGU friends, he is in a couple of the groups. He’ll be 24 this July and I raised him up until he was about 12 and he watched me on my journey searching for the truth which I found in 2009. I very much appreciate even just one book from anyone that can help him out, he video calls me a lot and we talked about the teaching mostly and he reads all the contact reports. Michael Horn has my email address that he’s welcome to share with you and my home address also, you can send it to my home address and I will deliver it to him. Thanks again and Salome
There are some youtube channels where the youtuber reads Billy’s books to the viewers if this helps. That is what I do.
I’m curious as to the overpopulation problem that is mentioned regularly, with all the wars and now the upcoming Italy volcano eruption? Is this taken into consideration when looking at so much death and destruction, are Humans still going to overpopulate the Earth?
That’s a tough one, the recommendations that we have for the idea population of the earth is just over 500 million, the casualties mentioned in the Henoch prophecies are that every 3rd or ever 4th person will lose their life, that would put us still many times over even with billions dead, as that could very well change for the better or worse, im sure we could very well destroy ourselves completely if we don’t start behaving in a thoughtful way, just as the fate of the other planet Malona in our solar system was destroyed by a similar insanity. Its very sad when you think about it, what a wonderful thing it would be to have another habitable planet close by and how it would inspire us to reach out into space to see another world.
About superpopulation.
Please read the translation in English Language below.
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Voraussagen des Propheten Jeremia Kontakt 229 vom 31. Juli 1989
Auf Seite Nr. 2.
«Die Unvernunft des Menschen wird mit dem Auftreten des Neuzeit-Propheten durch die Zeugung von Nachkommenschaft derart überhandnehmen, dass die Erde, der Himmel, die Meere, die Wälder, Steppen und Wüsten sowie die Gebirge derart bevölkert sein werden, dass kein Mensch mehr einen unbeobachteten Schritt tun kann und deswegen jeder mit jedem in Händel gerät. Der Mensch wird seine Macht geltend machen und über die Natur und das Leben befehlen und dabei die Macht der Schöpfung anstreben, denn er wird in jeder Beziehung alle Grenzen niederreissen und sich darüber hinwegsetzen. Doch alles wird nicht endlos weitergehen, weil sich dereinst alles umkehrt und gegen den Menschen richtet. Wie ein betrunke ner Herrscher wird er plötzlich zu schwanken beginnen und in Angst dahinrennen wie ein blindes Pferd. Er wird sich selbst reiten wie ein Reittier, sich die Sporen und die Peitsche gebend, hinein in die Wirrnis, in einen Wald der Irre, an dessen Ende der Weg dunkel, öd und tödlich ist und unrettbar in einen tiefen Abgrund führt.»
*Translation of the Predictions:*
Predictions of the Prophet Jeremiah Contact Nr. 229 of 31 July 1989
On page Nr. 2
“With the appearance of the Prophet of the New Times, man’s unreasonableness will become so rampant through the procreation of offsprings that the earth, the sky, the seas, the forests, the steppes and deserts as well as the mountains will be so populated that no man will be able to take an unobserved step and therefore everyone will come into conflict with everyone else. Man will assert his power and command over nature and life, striving for the power of Creation, for he will break down all boundaries in every respect and override them. But everything will not go on indefinitely because one day everything will be turned round and directed against man. Like a drunken ruler, he will suddenly begin to sway and run in fear like a blind horse. He will ride himself like a mount, giving himself the spurs and the whip, into the confusion, into a forest of madness, at the end of which the path is dark, barren and deadly and leads irrevocably into a deep abyss.”
Spring Is In The Air…
I know the story of Johny Appleseed
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I reckon its time to do A Johhny Moringa Seed…!
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You can get 1000 Moringa seeds at low cost on ebay…
get more if you like.
Youtube the growing conditions and howto harvest. The WHOLE Plant is edible, even the roots…
In Sydney where i live we dont get snow but it goes to about 7 degrees celcius in winter. The Moringa trees look dead after winter BUT they bounce back even more prolific. The stump multiplies.
The Moringa seeds can also clean dirty water and is good to use in tap water to remove chemicals And PLASTICS…!
So seeds are good for everyday use to clean your tap water.
You can buy seed powder or just crush them.
I use the seed powder to detox as well.
I recon this plant was gifted to us by our mates… You can survive JUST on moringa and coral calcium powder from Okinawa…
Salome
Your Brother Downunder
Please, send my brotherly big hug to Dyson Devine and to Vivienne Legg, there Downunder, land of the Didgeridoo. Just in case you live close to them. We will never forget the, now defunct, Gayaguys website.
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J.B.S
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GAIAGUYS, it is not written incorrectly as “Gayaguys”. Sorry for the mistyping.
I generally thought some of the stuff folks tried to debunk Meier with actually point to something the P’s maybe wanted us to consider. For example, the missing tree in one of Meier’s photo that appears on his and later is not there in other pictures.
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Pendulum-Like_motion_of_an_unidentified_object_(UO)_filmed_by_Billy_Meier,_Maccabee,_Bruce,_Internet,_February_2002
“The tree was not found during the investigations of Meier’s claims. According to Meier the tree was killed by the spacecraft and subsequently removed by the Pleiadeans. This is at least one potential explanation for why the tree does not appear in Yaoi’s video from the same location several years later.”
So, if the P’s can do it does that mean others such as future earth ones or foreigners do the same perhaps another thing and for us a deep nudge to keep on the look out for? Just an example and of course one done without too much troubling considerations as after all its just one tree.
Greetings Everyone I’m Eric I’m new to the teachings. Been only a few months. I look forward to chatting with you all thanks
Be welcome!
Salomé my new friend, any questions you have just ask and we will dobour best to answer them.
The growing reports of accidents and structural flaws in Boeing aircraft is a cause for concern, with the most recent whistleblower report claiming that pieces of the fuselage during the assembly have not always fit together properly. To me this screams premature fatigue failure during flight, which occurs when components such as bolts and fasteners are overly stressed due to not being aligned properly. This and other problems means that Boeing planes are going to become ticking time bombs, and the problems are just beginning.
This from Petale prophecies:
Navigation and air travel will become a death maker.
I interpreted that prophecy as a reduction of the earths magnetic field causing difficulties in navigating and increased radiation at high altitude. Would their really be a prophecy about a single make of aircraft? Seems a little too specific and man made to have its own mention.
“Boeing and Airbus are the world’s only major large passenger aircraft manufacturers. The two companies share almost exclusive control of the worldwide airplane supply business for large commercial jets.”
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/050415/what-companies-are-major-players-airline-supply-business.asp
But how would that also relate to navigation? ships as well have to navigate,
If it were air travel alone what do you interpret the navigation part to mean?
You may well be right of course but that was my immediate and biased thoughts.
I was just focusing on the air travel part and not the navigation part. You’re right that this is also important to consider. But I think the failures in that regard will have the same cause as the Boeing structural issues, namely cost cutting/profiteering at the expense of safety. If AI gets introduced into air traffic control and navigation, and it will be in order to save money, then it could reach a point where it gets so integrated into the system that, like Boeing, it will be impossible to reel in the problems once they start. Then you have a case where there are many unsafe planes in the air and an increased risk of AI errors directing those flights with not enough human controllers left to cover for them if they fail.
But that’s just a guess. There could be other factors related to technology failure and, as mentioned by Tom, environmental factors like frequent volcanic eruptions that affect visibility and clog engines.
This just reminded me of this conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyRjS5jol_A&ab_channel=HindustanTimes
My mind linked a few things regarding this statement prior to the recent Boeing reports. 1. the increased volcanic activity mentioned in Prophetien und Voraussagen as being a cause. Ie. volcanic ash clouds impacting jet engines. 2. Increasing population that increases the number of planes and vessels in transit, thereby increasing the number of casualties. 3. Increasing storm severity and frequency which is regularly raised in relation to climate change. 4. Large scale wars which result in civilian casualties.
I understood that the prophecy referred to the North magnetic pole moving to the Mecca area, Saudi Arabia and the South magnetic pole being in South America (and bring the Northern Lights with it to Saudi).
As it’s in one of the contact reports I remember reading. There was a description of the two magnetic poles in ‘The Newscientst’ magazine.
It is known that the North magnetic pole is on the move going back and forth between Canada and Russia at present.
I could not find the article as I read it in the magazine and not on the web site. So I have included the links below. The weather is all awry, droughts, then flooding and temperature fluctuating up and down and so on, so I would guess that large variations will take place in the future.
If the magnetic field does flip then that will really screw up the servo-systems of flying craft and possibly the GPS systems etc?
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24232360-700-the-north-pole-is-moving-and-if-it-flips-life-on-earth-is-in-trouble/
https://www.sciencefocus.com/planet-earth/earth-magnetic-field
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_433
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Polar_Axis_Shift
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_039
Salome
Changes in the magnetic field on earth is what I thought it meant too.
GPS is unaffected by magnetic fields it uses precise measurements with atomic clocks to determine location, The satellites themselves however would be vulnerable to solar flares or other space weather with a reduced magnetic shield.
Changes in magnetism would also be unlikely to affect the servos but the planes themselves computers would also be vulnerable to high energy particles and well as the radiation exposure increase to the human body with the weakening shield.
Compass navigation would be seriously affected by a change in the position as well as intensity of the magnetic field, there was an event recently where the magnetic field had shifted so much during one flight that it threw an error code of some sort and had to be recalibrated, this was the first time in recorded history this had happened, this shows how wildly the earth magnetic field is changing, its absolutely racing towards Siberia and is showing no signs of stopping, the south magnetic pole is also showing signs of change but not nearly as much for now.
these shifts in magnetism are also affecting the South Atlantic Anomaly which is close to the old pole position.
You can tell how weak our magnetic field is lately, aurora are being seen further and further south and changing colour and intensity.
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Thank you for sharing this.
The Nokodemion-henok teaching was taught 13,500 years ago in the indo-burmese region.
Very interesting how this connects to the teaching given to the ‘Bodhi’ 2,900 years ago in the same region and that both pre- and post- pole shift this area of our world was selected.
I was just wondering, a warning that Billy Meier gave where he said ” When the people see the horror and the devastation of Jerusalem, then yhe end will come. Was he referring to the NAZI war or is he reffering to what is to come? Like and all out attack from countries surrounding it like Iran, Syria, Lebanon ect? Would lile to know others thoughts on this please.
The explanations about Jerusalem were not said by Billy Meier himself. But it was truly the Prophet Jmmanuel (Falsely, untruthfully and erroneously known as Jesus) who made the predictions.
Therefore these ancient predictions about Jerusalem were foretold and explained by the ancient Prophet Jmmanuel himself, not by Billy Meier in this new reincarnation of his.
These are the reincarnations of the same spirit that is reincarnated today as Billy Meier:
Henoch (Enoch), Elia (Elijah), Jesaja (Isaiah), Jeremia (Jeremiah), Jmmanuel (Immanuel), Muhammad (Mohammed) and Billy (BEAM)
This what Prophet Jmmanuel stated:
5. “Thus the Israelites betrayed their own friends and murdered them because of their greed, but it shall likewise be done to them by the rightful owners of this land whom they have deprived of their rights and subjugated since ancient times.”
20. “When the people see the horror of destruction in Jerusalem, of which the prophets have spoken, the end will come.
21. “Whoever is in the land seized by the Israelites should flee to the mountains at that time.
22. “Those on the roofs should not climb down to get things from inside their houses.
23. “Those who are in the fields should not go back to get their coats.
There’s a reason Billy stated in CR 882: “Now summer is coming, and I can see that at least nature is also waking up again and a lot is beginning to stir,”
Because Jmmanuel stated the same:
50. “Do learn a parable from the fig tree; when its branch puts forth leaves, you know that summer is nigh.
51. “So will it also be for the people of that time; when they see all this transpire they may know that these events are upon them.
52. “Truly, truly, I say to you, this is how it will be.
These events must transpire.
9. “People will hear about wars and threats of war, and they are to witness this but not be frightened because it must transpire; but it will not yet be the end.
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Talmud_of_Jmmanuel_-_Prophecy
I found this while searching for Billy’s next incarnation. I stand corrected when I said Billy will incarnate “One more time” It appears the claim is that he will reincarnate several more times before the time mentioned as the 800 year time era when earth humans start to live right. But the main reason for this post is the picture I have attached. The lineage of Billy’s personalities. Why does it say “Died” after Billy’s name.
So is he dead already ?
Did the P’s raise him from the dead 3 days after he died ?
Or is it just a typo ?
I’m not sure what to believe.
D.
If you look at the other names, a death date appears next to the word died. He hasn’t passed on yet, so that’s why it’s blank. It will be filled in when that day comes.
I realize that now. I apologize.
For the record, I know I’ve been somewhat frustrated with getting the truth from anyone on this planet and I’m sure it shows in a few of my lasted post.
Long story short. Lied to my entire life.
Church.Ex wife. Business partners, Politics. FAMILY. All liars so my defensive approach is bitter because I’d like to find one truth on this planet before I die.
The questions I have are legitimate other than my post regarding the word “Died” I let my emotions cause a huge mistake because of my defensive stance.
I want everyone to know that I am not a debunker. I want this case to be the real deal more that anything. I question things feverishly because much of this can be logically explained away. Like the UFO photos. I don’t know and never will know what the true level of digital photography was in the mid 70’s . 1975 to be precise. But then we find this. The first CCD camera with image sensor chips was created in 1975.
The entire premise of my questioning revolves on the fact that the citizens of the world were and still are kept in the dark about many technological advancements. So the possibility of fraudulent photography was possible during Billy’s photo era.
D.
I understand David. I think it’s important to try to rise above your bitterness (easier said than done, I know) when it comes to other people. The only thing you can control in life is your thoughts and your actions. When you let the actions of others eat at you, you allow them to have control over your thinking, health and life. Finding the truth may not be as important as finding peace. Once you find peace, everything else will follow.
Please,
Try to buy the bilingual book Talmud Jmmanuel in German and English. Official FIGU translation, in order to understand even deeply the true history of the true Prophet Jmmanuel (Falsely, untruthfully and erroneously known as Jesus).
Jesus NEVER EXISTED.
Talmud Jmmanuel by Judas Ischkerioth
Meier, Billy Eduard Albert
Price: 50.00 CHF
Publisher: Wassermannzeit
Pages: 732
Format: DIN A5
Language: German and English
Binding: Hardback
ISBN-13: 9780991857333
Buy the book online here:
https://shop.figu.org/b%C3%BCcher/talmud-jmmanuel-by-judas-ischkerioth?language=en
We also sell all of Billy Meier’s books translated into English here:
http://www.theyfly.com/shop/v1/home.php
We ship internationally as well.
I forgot to mention that Michael Horn. I just completely forgot that you indeed have tens of books right here at Theyflyblog for selling.
Sorry for that.
The image attached shows only some samples of the books which everyone can buy here.
http://www.theyfly.com/shop/v1/home.php
Please, read this whole Contact Report Nr. 229 at the Futureofmankind official website , see link below.
PREVISIONS OF THE ANCIENT PROPHET JEREMIAH; WITHOUT ANY KIND OF RELIGIOUS FALSIFICATIONS.
Contact Reports Volume / Issue: 5 (Plejadisch-Plejarische Kontaktberichte Block 5)
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_229
Is there any way we can get a hint on the exact dates of the Cascadia and San Andreas earthquakes? It seems to be very near the time that these occur. It would be helpful to know so I can take necessary precautions.
The photographs Billy brought back were analyzed by Col Wendell Stevens in 1978. He identified cars in San Francisco that were small and bug shaped, without external mirrors and had transparent roofs. These sounds like self driving cars. Wendell also saw an (H) shaped building downtown, which does not exist there yet. Billy said the SF quake takes place on a late summers day, which would be from mid July through the end of August.
SF has a severe traffic congestion and parking problem and prides itself on innovate policies. This could motivate the city to be the first in the nation to mandate self driving ride share vehicles to eliminate privately owned vehicles and by consequence street parking. That could happen within 10 or 20 years.
It’s already here. Been out a few times and often I see a few vehicles. One time, I saw one double parked, and a lady who is young at heart got into the passenger seat and the vehicle just drove away like it was Uber or something. It still had side-mirrors but on top and on its side were cameras and sensors that were very noticeable.
You are correct,, the technology is already here, SF has been hosting it’s development for 10 years. Still with external sensing equipment though but SF now has a driverless taxi service. When they get looking cleaner without gear all over, we’ll see self driving cars with the transparent tops. We may be in the decade preceding the great quake.
Billy also said that around ten days after the San Andreas quake, scientists would find a connection to Mnt Saint Helens. Does something occur there before the SF quake? It may be that a Cascadia quake triggers a Saint Helens event, which then triggers the San Andreas.
The plate ruptures at Coalinga CA and the crack snakes north at high speed to SF. This was observed by Billy from Quetzels spaceship.
Quetzel said that if ”The great quake” hit near the time of the SF quake, it would sink most of California. It may possibly be three quakes. Cascadia could be first which triggers a Mnt Saint Helens event, then SF is hit and then comes a great quake which sinks most of California.
Quetzel described the severity of it all as unrivaled since time immemorial.
If anyone has clarification or correction please post.
San Andreas is a right lateral strike slip fault which is the same fault type as the Turkey earthquakes of last year. The only possibility of an ocean inundation into CA would be the fault rupturing through the Brawley seismic zone, destroying the Colorado River delta and the Gulf of California flooding the Salton trough (the Coachella valley) since it is below sea level. I would really like some clarity on this situation because in order to displace the Delta there would have to be some sort of Colorado river dam breach, such as the Hoover dam… that causes an immense amount of water to change the path of the river delta through erosion that would make it vulnerable.
If I read correctly from the contact report the San Andreas earthquake occurs after a tsunami, so it is my assumption Cascadia is first. I really wish that they could extrapolate further on both. It is of the utmost importance the gravity of the situation is explained in detail if they are not going to give hints on the dates. Also I need further explanation on how the San Andreas ruptures, because typically it ruptures in segments (North, Central, or South) & produces M7.5 – M7.8 earthquakes on each section and they said the coming great earthquake would affect all the way down to San Diego, which would imply that the entire fault ruptured from the Salton sea to Cape Mendocino in a M8.4 great earthquake. I would say this is possible now that the Ridgecrest earthquakes caused seismic slip on the Garlock fault. There is so much missing context on the situation that really needs to be addressed since we are very likely coming down to the end of being able to access this information via internet…
Also regarding Cascadia: since they have already said in the contact report “that is going to occur on … “it would be very important to give more information, drop an indirect hint, at this point nothing is going to stop the chain reaction in the world.
It is mentioned that the scientists haven’t differentiated between earthquakes and “seaquakes” that were specifically mentioned, recently there has been a swarm of earthquakes on the seabed off the east coast.
The seabed is made from oceanic crust that is thinner ~4 miles thick, it is denser and has a higher compressive strength.
Continental crust is much thicker ~25 miles and has a lower density and strength.
I would speculate that both the displacement distance and intensity (violence) could be greater for the oceanic crust, if it were ever to slip or break,
the displacement is what causes the deadly tsunami.
I imagine one as a glass pane whereas the other like plasterboard, if you squished these sideways you can imagine the effect that each could produce, one would shatter violently and the other would crack and break, glass showing very little evidence of being under stress until it finally went, this is of course over exaggerated but you get the point.
The subduction of the oceanic crust under the North American plate would cause the sea floor to deform and drop up to 15 feet which would cause the tsunami on the Cascadia. We need an explanation on why a strike slip fault (San Andreas) would cause part of CA to break off into the ocean. The majority of CA is well above sea level. Please and thank you
Do spirts as old as the one in Billy > nokodamian
Communicate with each other as individuals do they have there own consciousness
Would appreciate a comment from someone well versed in the teaching regarding the following.
Say we compare two scenarios. In one scenario, you go to bed and in the morning you wake up as you normally do. In the other scenario you go to bed and you wake up not remembering anything that happened yesterday, or any day before yesterday. It seems to me that the first scenario is much better for gaining knowledge and wisdom.
Would this not be the same in the case of reincarnation? Would it not make more sense to be able to remember past lives? The argument of being overwhelmed by the past is not very convincing to me.
I remember from the contact notes that after Nokodemion pacified his people, he and Arahat Athersata decided to stop the spirits of the most egregious transgressors of the laws of creation from evolving, at least for some time. Could this be the reason we cannot remember?
I would not say I was well versed in the teaching but can offer you this, apologies if it falls short, here it goes:
Would it not make more sense to be able to remember past lives?
excerpt from ‘The Way to Live’
460)
At the latest, the knowledge about the earlier life- that is to say, about the earlier existence- ceases to exist at the time of rebirth. But why is that so? With a rebirth there arises a completely new personality which no longer has one iota to do with anything of the earlier life. This new personality must lead a new life of its own, with its own new thoughts, feelings, ideas and emotions, and so forth, in order to evolve as is pre-given through the creational laws and recommendations. Memories of the earlier life, however, would influence the new personality in such a way that a devastating confusion would come about, which would impair the material consciousness to the point of insanity. Memories of earlier lives are therefore seriously burdening to the consciousness and thereby prevent evolution.
Billy adds that one’s evolutional level is a decisive factor in accessing memories from former lives – this will remain out of reach for Earth humans for quite some time.
Your last point as being a reason for the forgetfulness I take it refers to this excerpt from the epic CR 238. I don’t know whether this can be valid as millions of years of the incarnation cycle have since transpired.
689. And thus the order and decree was passed, through the engagement of the Arahat Athersata level, that those who passed away in the course of time to a natural death should not be ordained a reincarnation, rather that their spirit-forms had to stay as long in the realm of the other side until they, one day, through a new decree of Nokodemion, could again find an existence in human bodies.
690. However, this had to continue for a very long time and, in addition, led thereto, that almost all knowledge had to escape out of the storage banks of all personalities, and new personalities were created through the overall consciousness block.
691. Thus this process of exhausting the greatest part of all the knowledge stored in the storage banks continued for almost 4,000,000,000 [tbc] years before Nokodemion, with the help of the Arahat Athersata level, again called the aforementioned spirit-forms, and newly ordered them into human bodies, and indeed in his newly engendered and created peoples who found their origins 8,000,000,000 [later corrected: 8,000,000] years ago on LASAN.
got a question about reincarnation based on what i have been learning in the CRs. this is a question i would prefer to ask a plejaren but i dont have that luxury so im leaving this question here for us to speculate on:
in a hypothetical scenario, you have a generational ship drifting between star systems, and four generations of humans are born while the older ones die off, would folks reincarnate onto the ship? also where would the new spirits come from if there is a larger population on said generational ship after four generations?
keep in mind that this ship is not suffering from over population and is properly engineered to handle such a scenario as these people live in space far from any solar system by choice.
From the FIGU Forum (Questions Answered by Billy):
If a slow moving (primitive) space ship takes several generations to reach it’s destination planet, and during this journey babies are born in this ship (therefor increasing it’s population), where would the spirit-forms come from?
Answer: Hi Jean Pierre,
The spirit-forms would come from the nearest planet that is inhabited by human beings (where the people are at least as highly developed/evolved as the people in the space ship)
Interestingly there is a contact where Ptaah speaks of a number of generations during the course of the Sirians refugee journey to mars.
Sorry I don’t want to misconstrue anything – it was this.
Billy:
Those who were genetically manipulated, who came into the solar system together with the refugees from the ranks of the genetic manipulators, and therefore with the sympathisers of the genetically manipulated ones, were the descendants of those who had been genetically manipulated as well as descendants of those who did the genetic manipulations, no?
Ptaah:
19. That is correct.
20. The genetically manipulated descendants were descended from the eighth generation, as were the descendants of the genetic manipulators.
The Future Of Mankind – A Billy Meier Wiki – Contact Report 311
awesome, thanks!
It’s not a question it’s more pointing things out, I rewatched the lee and brit elder documentary with billy and throughout the documentary billy nearly slips up a few times and goes to call the plejaaaa then changes it straight away to pleadians obviously we now know why he called them pleadians, so obviously we know billy keeps things from us, what else is billy keeping secret from us ? I need to know why he’s described the shape of the earth as a (flattened sphere) I find it hard to believe we’re on a ball floating through space does billy know something we don’t and he’s not saying because he would be ridiculed by saying it ? I’ve looked into this case for the past 5-6 years i know it’s real the evidence is there to prove it, i would just like to know more I’m intrigued in this case as everything billy has said has come true, please just ask him if the earth is flat I know it sounds daft but it would make more sense thank you for reading. Salome
Dear Flatearther,
I am sorry, but our blue planet Earth is definitively NOT FLAT!
Billy Meier NEVER, ever, in his entire life NEVER claimed that the Planet Earth is Flat.
I think you’ve really messed up things and badly misinterpreted Billy Meier’s explanations.
Our planet Earth is slightly flat ONLY at the poles, this shape is scientifically called a GEOID.
Our Planet Earth is actually not exactly round, i.e. it doesn’t form a perfect sphere. It’s more accurate to say that it has a GEOID shape, closer to the shape of an ELLIPSE, which is explained by the planet’s flattening, ONLY slightly, at the poles; due to its rotational movement.
Please tell us, show to us all, the number of the Contact Report, the date, and the number of the passage from which you took this absurd invention that Billy Meier said that the Planet Earth is flat.
Where did you get this Flatearth absurdly false information from??
This is not true. The Planet Earth is NOT FLAT! You are sadly very uninformed!
Take a good look at the attached image here for you to understand it. GEOID SHAPE of the Planet Earth.
J.B.S
From Brazil
I never said flat, and I don’t know whether he said it himself on video or it’s in the contact reports but he DEFINITELY said the earth was a flattened sphere I wouldn’t make a false statement toward billy Meier I’m very respectful towards him, I’m sure someone else on the page back me up I can’t be the only one to of heard billy say this
From this point forward, any claims about Billy need to be backed up by the source, which means the contact report number or the video where Billy said it. I’m sure everyone can understand the need to present the source. We want to avoid, at all costs, the distortion of the information in the contact reports. Thanks.
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No, that’s not an acceptable source. I’m sure you can understand the need to keep falsifications and distortions off the blog. Please provide the contact report or video where Billy said it. Otherwise, the discussion will be deleted.
😉 Give them knowledge Melissa.
It is useless to play chess with pigeons, Melissa… You certainly know what pigeons do. Just exactly the same thing pigeons do all over those old dirty statues everywhere. A pigeon does the same, all over the chessboard, if you try to play chess with it.
😉
Billy:
Then one last question, after which we can talk about other things that are not to be mentioned officially. The Earth, as I have already seen several times from outer space, somehow continuously changes in its shape and sometimes looks not quite round and dented. I have seen this through your fantastic devices, which Semjase showed me, whereby this phenomenon became known to me. Can you tell me the reason why our planet continuously deforms itself and exhibits bulges as well as depressions? Do our scientists already know this at all?
Quetzal:
53. To my knowledge, this fact is still unknown among the Earth-humans.
54. The reason for the daily-changing, uneven regularity of the planet, which exhibits a certain elliptical shape, is to be found in the fact that depending on the density of the matter and the water masses, a changing gravity or gravitational force results.
55. This means that the density of the water masses and the solid matter changes continually, and indeed, uninterruptedly.
56. Through this, for example, large areas with higher densities of matter or water swell out in a bump-shaped manner, whereby even bulges emerge.
57. The areas opposing these collapse in and form depressions or craters when a low density of matter or water masses is given, as was explained to me by Ptaah.
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_222
This should put an end to this discussion because I’ve never heard Billy refer to the Earth as a flattened sphere. If he used those words, the context is needed. Our technology has advanced enough that we shouldn’t have to ask if the Earth is flat anymore.
🙂 🙂 🙂 Very good move Melissa!
Then, unfortunately, you did not understand my explanation above. And you still continue insisting, stubbornly, blindly trusting in a false and completely
erroneous information.
There’s nothing else I could say to you then.
Therefore just stay there with your own erroneous flatearth illogical and irrational conjectures. Or read again, thoroughly and calmly, what I correctly explained above.
“Our Planet Earth is actually not exactly round, i.e. it doesn’t form a perfect sphere. It’s more accurate to say that it has a GEOID shape, closer to the shape of an ELLIPSE, which is explained by the planet’s flattening, ONLY slightly, ONLY slightly, at the poles; due to its rotational movement…”
Definitively this is the end of our conversation.
There’s nothing else I could say to you.
Notre conversation est définitivement terminée.
C’est fini!
Au revoir!
Bye Bye!
Mikee,
We’re not accepting any further comments about flat Earth. Please stop submitting them.
I’m also not going to look it up for you.
Billy’s description of the Earth was already provided: The Earth, as I have already seen several times from outer space, somehow continuously changes in its shape and sometimes looks not quite round and dented.
Please also see the explanation by José.
Thanks.