ABOUT MICHAEL
Michael Horn has 45 years of experience as a science researcher and began his study and research into the UFO contacts of Billy Meier, in 1979.
In 1986, Michael found previously unknown warnings, originally published by Billy Meier beginning in 1951, about unnatural manmade climate change, global warming, the increased frequency and intensity of storms, blizzards, tsunamis, and the coming climate destruction. Michael also found that Mr. Meier was the first person to warn about the damage to the ozone layer from A-bomb explosions, and about the connection between the extraction of petroleum and earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, all of which were subsequently scientifically corroborated.
The Singularly Authentic Billy Meier UFO Case
In 2004, after 25 years of research into Meier’s information and the evidence substantiating his claims, Michael, who is also a former SETI team member, became the voluntary Authorized American Media Representative for the Billy Meier Contacts. Michael gives national and international multi-media presentations, university lectures, interviews, etc., and makes frequent media appearances representing the Meier contacts.
Thanks also to the eight-month long investigation by the formerly skeptical USAF OSI/Dept. of Defense investigator-supervisor, Joe Tysk, the Meier contacts have now been proved to be absolutely authentic.
In October 2020, Michael discovered never before seen, historically unprecedented photographs, from 1981, of a UFO interacting with a, then top secret, US Stealth fighter at Groom Lake Nevada.
Michael has been involved in environmental issues since 1968, when he wrote and illustrated “Captain Tim”, an animated project warning about air pollution. In 1969, he produced a song by the same name for A&M records. In 1970, he wrote an award-winning song, “Brother River”.
Because of his concerns about the critical problems of water pollution, he helped to develop two water purification companies and pioneered commercial water purification applications for many companies, like Starbucks, Wolfgang Puck and numerous restaurants and international hotels.
Michael is the writer and producer of the award-winning feature length documentary, “And Did they Listen?”, as well as “as the time fulfills”, “The Silent Revolution of Truth”, and “The Meier Contacts – The Key To Our Future Survival”.
Michael Horn has consistently demonstrated enormous creativity and being well ahead of his time. He is the creator of the innovative, interactive, mindfulness and stress relief program, Consciousness Awareness Workshop (which Michael was invited to teach to corporate and government leaders in Europe, such as BASF, Eurochemie, Rabobank, KLM, Cyco Software, ING Bank, Meta Visie, by a consultant to Princess Diana).
Michael’s very eclectic background also includes: best-selling author (Future Self; and his children’s book The Bulb Heads and the Pin Heads), award-winning film director, film producer, prize-winning painter, designer/creator of the still popular fashion fad “fingernail art” (featured in Harper’s Bazaar magazine), award-winning songwriter, one of the first creators of digital online book publishing (ebooks/Netbooks), inventor of the first portable travel neck pillow, music and video producer, science researcher, published writer, credentialed teacher, humorist, theatrical set designer, health care professional, creator of the Future Self interactive, therapeutic video technique, volunteer work with children and seniors, creator/teacher of the Sit & Get Fit regenerative movement videotapes and program for seniors, as well as for personnel at U.S. corporations like Xerox and Candle.
Michael has been featured in two issues of the international martial arts magazine INSIDE KUNG FU demonstrating advanced strength and flexibility Chi Gong exercises and has articles published in Nexus, Mystic Pop and UFO magazines. Additionally, he created and taught a self-defense course for women for the City of Los Angeles Commission on the Status of Women.
“Breaking the Silence” is the award-winning, documentary about five courageous young women that Michael and his daughter produced. (See more about this amazing film here.) Michael also wrote the song for the film, “I’ll Be My Own Hero”, which he has also personally performed at the invitation of motivational speaker, Anthony Robbins for his Fire Walk Experience.
Be sure to watch Michael’s – award-winning – documentary, “DECEPTION ON DEMAND” and read his NEW book, THE LYRICS OF MICHAEL HORN – A LIFE IN SONG.
“Michael Horn is the world’s leading authority on UFOs.”
– George Noory – Talk radio host
Recent Presentations by Michael Horn:
Canadian Society of Questers, Canada
Lillian Smith Library, Toronto, Canada
International UFO Congress, Hong Kong
Contact in the Desert, Indian Wells, California
Campos do Jordao, Brazil
AUFORN, Australia
Metropole Hilton, London
Ontario Science Center, Canada
Meta Center, New York City
University of Alberta, Canada
University of Calgary, Canada
University of, Victoria, B.C.
Biltmore Hotel, Los Angeles
NEXUS Conference, Amsterdam
NEXUS Conference, Australia
ASPE Conference, New Mexico
Alchemy Event, Berkeley, CA
Rainbow Lounge, Flagstaff, AZ
Saw Shop Bistro, Kelseyville, CA
Community of Infinite Spirit, San Jose, CA
Alien Cosmic Expo, Brantford, Canada
Sedona MUFON, Arizona
Bay Area UFO Conference, Santa Clara, CA
Space Cities, Mountain View, CA
Texas Station Hotel, Las Vegas
Barnes & Noble, Flagstaff, Arizona
Flagstaff Southside Center, Arizona
Art Institute of Los Angeles
Dolphins and ET Civilizations, Hawaii
Bodhi Tree Bookstore, Los Angeles
First Friends Fellowship Hall, Los Angeles
Conscious Living Expo, Los Angeles
National UFO Conference, Hollywood
IUFOC, Laughlin
Night Search World Forum, Memphis
New Life Expo, San Francisco
Recent Media Appearances:
ABC News Talk Channel
ALL STAR RADIO National
CNN International
COAST TO COAST AM International
CONSCIOUS MEDIA NETWORK National
FOX Radio Alan Colmes Show National
CRN National
G4TECHTV National
JOURNEY INTO THE VOID San Diego
KEVIN SMITH SHOW International
PLANET X RADIO, UK
RADIO AMERICA National
SIRIUS RADIO NETWORK National
TALK RADIO NETWORK National
TALK SPORT International
THE CUTTING EDGE National
VOICE OF AMERICA National
WKQX National
KLBJ Austin
WCBM Baltimore
WYDE Birmingham
KKUP California
KTOX California
WGN Chicago
KNON Dallas
KOA 850 Denver
DRQ Detroit
WPON Detroit
WTOP D.C.
WLRQ Florida
WDRC Hartford
WCRA Illinois
WYBR Indiana
KCMO Kansas City
KFI Los Angeles
KLOS Los Angeles
KRLA Los Angeles
KROQ Los Angeles
WSAR Massachusetts
KQRS Minneapolis
WOTW New Hampshire
FLY New York
WBAI New York
WLW Ohio
WKY Oklahoma
WFTW Pensacola
KYW Philadelphia
WURD Philadelphia
WMKX Philadelphia
KMOX St. Louis
KKUP San Francisco
KPRI San Diego
KIRO Seattle
KTKT Tucson
WFAD Vermont
KGAB Wyoming
WDLB Wisconsin
International Internet:
Achieve Radio
Allan Holender’s ZenBiz Radio
Badlands
Beacon of Light
Be Reasonable
Betsey Lewis Show
Beyond Belief with George Noory
Beyond Reality Radio
Blue Moon Radio
Books 4 A Better Life
BUFO
CA MUFON Radio
Cattell’s Stardate
Conscious Media Network
Dark Matter
Dr. Gianni Hayes Show
Earth Mysteries
End of Days Radio
Exploring Unexplained Phenomena
Expanding Consciousness
Far Out Radio
Frank Church Show
Frank Whelan Show
FreemanTV
Galactic News Network
Higher Love
Home Tree Radio
I Sci-Fi
It’s Rainmaking Time
Jeff Rense Program
John & Heidi Show
Karma Air Radio
Kevin Smith Show
Late Night in the Midlands
Leak Project
Lou Gentile
Joe McNeil Show
Magick Mind
Meria Heller Show
Mike Siegel Show
Moore Talk
Mysteries of the Mind
Natalie-Marie Hart Show
Nature’s Way
Neglected Eclectic
Nexus Radio
Night Fright
Nocturnal Frequency
Now That’s Weird
Ohio UFO Radio
Orbit Radio
Out of This World
Out There TV
Pair A Normal Guys
Paradigm Unhinged
Para-Nexus Radio
Paranormal Stakeout
Planet X Live
RBN Live
Real Astrology
Red-Ice Radio
Redneck Radioman
Sared Matrrix
Sarah Simmons Show
Shed Show Talk
Spirit of Film
Stardust Radio Network
Stirring the Cauldron
Texas UFO sightings
The Bev Collins Show
The Black Vault
The Conspiracy Show
The Headroom
The Hillary Raimo Show
The Kevin Cook Show
The Mancow Show
The Moore Show
The Parent’s Hour
The Rob Simone Show
The Sharón Lynn Wyeth Show
The Shoong & Chappell Show
The Tazz & Paula Show
The Thom Hartmann Show
The Tommy Mischke Show
The Paracast
The Parafactor
The What Cast
Third Phase of the Moon
Through the Keyhole
Topic: UFO
Truth Medicine and Politics
Unkown Origins
Unraveling the Secret
Veritas Radio
Voices From Afar
Wiegand’s Files
World Of The Unexplained
X-Squared Radio
Xtract
X Zone Radio
Zephnet
Here is just a sample of what the media is saying about Michael Horn:
– Michael Medved – National talk radio host
“I enjoyed visiting with you on the air very much and the audience enjoyed it as well judging by the amount of positive e-mail. We should do this again some time and I look forward to meeting you in person out there where the weather is so much nicer!”
– John B. Wells – Coast to Coast AM
“Thanks very much! Our audience loves this topic.”
– Alan Colmes Show – Fox News
“I find the Billy Meier material as compelling and useful as almost anything I have seen. A while ago we posted this: And Did They Listen? — A Profound Offering and an Exercise in Critical Thinking. We at Thrive Movement value ‘And Did They Listen?’ for its stunning and profound content, for how it spurs our critical thinking, for the questions that it raises, and for the conversations that become possible. We pass it along to you and invite your own critical thinking.”
500+ Radio Stations 5 million + Listeners – the largest late night talk show in the world
– Ian Punnett – Coast to Coast AM (after interviewing Michael for three hours)
And, typical of the effect that Michael is making nationwide, mainstream talk radio host Karen Grant summed it up perfectly “Michael is a phenomenal guest. Whether you are a skeptic or not, he brings information that is fascinating and keeps the audience glued to their radios. The responses I receive after he has been on my show have been overwhelming. The one guest you want to have when it comes to the Meier case and contacts in general.”
– Karen Grant – National talk radio host
“Michael Horn, always a fascinating guest when he appears on Coast to Coast.”
– George Noory – Talk radio host
“Thanks again for doing my show a few weeks ago. I rarely get email from listeners but I did get a few that really enjoyed hearing you and wanted your website info.”
– Arielle Ford – Talk radio host, leading publicist
Regarding Michael’s presentation of the scientific proof for the Billy Meier UFO contacts, and the prophetic material (documented and published by Billy Meier in 1975, 1987 and 1995) that specifically gave advance warning of the destruction of the WTC, the upcoming attacks by the USA and the president, and other events unfolding right now…legendary, conservative talk show host Barry Farber said:
“… I didn’t dream I could ever enjoy a discussion of this nature, but Michael, you amaze me. It’s supremely enjoyable…If you can prove one of them…then you’re gonna change the world. I’m sitting here as a fascinated listener and talk host having a good hour. But if you can prove that anything [like that] came down…then I’m telling you pal, you’re wasting time on the Barry Farber Show. You can change the world… It was a delight! You handle skepticism well and kept things going briskly. I’ve already put your material in the “volcano” file” meaning hot guests who are welcome repeatedly on the show.”
– Barry Farber – Talk radio host
“You were great! You are very articulate and knowledgeable. I thoroughly enjoyed our chat and I hope you did, too. Would you like to come back on in the future? I appreciate you coming on and you were such a gentleman and very charitable about the questions. Thank you so much.”
– Gianni De Vincent Hayes – Christian talk radio host
A friend helped me understand that a donation isn’t about the amount but rather it is about making a spiritual connection to a worthwhile goal.
In that spirit I would like to make a small contribution to help with getting press releases out to mainstream media outlets (7.21.14 on the blog you mentioned this).
If I can send this to the NY address I won’t need further info.
Thanks, Michael for your hard work. You just never know who might be paying attention and learning something.
I thank you don’t have a NY address. I’ll email you.
Thank you Michael I really apprecate the information and I have been study about Billy Meier
history and his experience and also photograph of space ship. I also study about spiritual teaching it is so wonderfull and about creation, wow it blow my mind. All about false reglion and
I beleive it is not everyone fault because of irrational teaching.
Thank you Regards Kris Beaton
You’re welcome Kris. I’m glad that you are interested in these matters and I welcome and look forward to your participation here.
Hi,
Your prophecies page list some absurd stuff, Saturn has 62 moons far from 29 meier says but it’s listed as corroborated.
There are more than 2 small planets beyond Pluto in fact there are at least 3 discovered http://www.space.com/12536-3-dwarf-planets-discovered-kuiper-belt-pluto.html so why you listed it as prophecy corroborated. It’s an incorrect guess by meier that they will discover 2, since they discovered more than 2 he didn’t know there are more than 2 perhaps interesting.
Those are just the 2 items I researched.
P.S.I’m just telling pointing you towards stuff you written you should realize that at least sometimes you’re finding evidence that’s not there. Hint: your believe systems.
Hint: Meier was told long ago that the Plejaren have a different standard for measuring moons than our scientists, who would mistake the Adonids for moons (see: http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/MeierSaturnInfo.pdf).
As for the two planets beyond Pluto, as far back as 1958 Meier correctly predicted their discovery. Of course he didn’t mention every other body, planetoid, etc., that exist in that region of space.
Meier has published information about the things in and beyond our solar system that indicate that there are many things that haven’t been specifically foretold of which they are quite aware, see:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_150
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_011
Do more homework.
Michael:
just saw you were on Coast again….after all these years I couldn’t believe you are still doing this stuff – well at the very least you have “stick with it” ability as you certainly have been sticking with it or………………perhaps “sticking” it to……………..gotta give you that and can’t argue with success and as was once said – if you keep repeating the same thing long enough and often enough you can sell anything — even if it perhaps is a somewhat limited audience –
Hi Michael,
Just thought you would be interested in this article pertaining to the non- existence of the fictional person called Jesus. Can you say… “Johnny come lately”… Welcome to the party boys!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2776194/Jesus-never-existed-Writer-finds-no-mention-Christ-126-historical-texts-says-mythical-character.html
Francisco
Thanks Steely, I saw that and was composing a brief blog about it that may or may not be necessary.
You are most certainly welcome.
Michael,
I have tried to find predictions on 2014. Maybe I am not looking in the right place, but all I was able to find was talk about 2012. Nothing about the outcome of the current situation with Ebola and IS. Yes, I read the message, however it sounds like a general interpretation of what is in the news, not the behind the scene motives and development.
Also, here is a question. If Ptah knows the future, and warns us to do something about it, yet doesn’t really provide a solution on how to exactly, it seems very odd that despite all those predictions in the past decades, didn’t contribute to any change, and his distant prediction of our future seems to indicate that nothing will change. I believe that anyone able to see the future be that by calculations and deductions, or some clairvoyant ability, serves only as a messenger, of that which is, and will be.
I appreciate any species/race trying to help us out no matter what form.
I know I sound like a skeptic/pessimist, call it what you want, but that is not why I said what I said, and asked what I asked.
My view of the future of the human race is…
From the very beginning, Meier and the Plejaren have not only warned us of what will come if we don’t change our direction but also that we need to change certain basic things, which are rooted in our thinking, feelings, actions and of course our beliefs.
What amounts to a free course in the spiritual teaching about thinking, the insidiousness of religious conditioning, etc., has long been made available.
We’re mistaken if we think that they’re going to tell us every specific thing to do, which should proceed anyway from our own thinking. Some specifics have been given of course: a reduction in population through birth regulations, the use deep geothermal energy, a global peace-combat force, a cessation of cutting down forests, prohibiting the use of atomic power plants, etc., etc., etc.
It’s up to us. Did we listen?
Apparently not.
Started reading Zechariah Sitchin. His take on gods in Genesis and elsewhere in the Old Testament seems very much on the mark. What is your take on his writings and research?
If he is accurate, then some of the ETs were pretty bad dudes, messing around with humans.
Jim
Search my site for Sitchin and you should find info from Meier and the Plejaren expalinig that he was very wrong about his information.
The problem is the United State acting like police to the world and they made a sanction on Russia and that could lead all out war. I think they not thinking right. Wish they could have to learn from Spiritual teaching. I have read message from Billy and I think it is really clear and I can not understand what The United States thinking maybe it is man ego think know all can solve the problem. Thank you Kris Beaton
Hi Michael,
Is it possible to confirm that Billy Meier’s 1958 letter “Warning to all governments of Europe” was in fact written in 1958? In other words, how can I demonstrate that it wasn’t written in 2005 and back-dated? Was it published anywhere? Did he take a photograph of the letter… does the original letter still exist somewhere?
Sean
I am very familiar with this case; I’ve read most of the Contact Notes, the Goblet of Truth and his many of his other spiritual teachings. Suffice to say, it’s an impressive set of content. However, I think it’s important for me to use my bullshit detector, so to speak, to do my best to VERIFY the evidence.
Perhaps I should just ask you: what piece/collection of evidence is the most convincing to you that he is telling the truth? Thanks for your help,
Sean
Hi Sean,
While I don’t have originals, etc., there actually is a way to prove it wasn’t back dated. I wrote something about it maybe on my blgo a while ago. I will do it again if I can’t find it…just not right now but please feel free to remind me after the first.
For me, personally, it wasn’t any one item that convinced me. It was the fact that he has so much that has never been properly duplicated nor debunked. Also, if one man were able to “produce” everything he’s had from film footage of uniquely moving objects to thousands of pages of consistent writing, you would expect his personality to be somehow a little more P.T. Barnum than it is. However, I totally get the need to verify evidence for yourself. I think this may be the post Michael was referring to:
https://theyflyblog.com/2013/07/13/when-big-parts-of-the-continents-disappear/
Found it using a search for:
Warning to all governments of Europe backdated
Hi Taro (and Michael),
Thank you for your response and the link. The information that I can find on the linked page pertaining to my question is: “The skeptics claim that he backdated and retrodicted everything to make them fit. But it’s actually easy – for the observant person – to verify the publication of the documents well prior to the events occurring….. Well if you notice that all of these prophecies and or predictions are in the same document. And if you notice that something like the ‘big parts of the continents disappear ‘ – ice melt connection is something that’s happening right now – unless you’re in complete denial – then it stands to reason (something also in extremely short supply) that everything in that document was not only written at the same time but well before the foretold events.”
Ok, let’s see if I can clarify the problem: How do I know that the 1958 letter that I am reading right now on the internet was not written in 2005, and then at the top it was just dated “1958” as that is very simple to do. Was the letter published anywhere? Who read it? Michael, what date did you first read the letter? What format was it in – internet, paper document? Were you sitting at your desk in 1996 reading a warning that said the World Trade Center was going to be destroyed followed by a protracted Iraq War caused by the 2nd President Bush? Or did you only read THAT part of the letter after 2001 when it already happened? See where I’m going with this… ?
Can we verify the publication date of this letter?
Thanks for your help!
Sean
Hi Sean,
I understand what you mean and of course I didn’t see the WTC warning before the event occurred, as per what is allowed under the control of Meier and the Plejaren.
I want to suggest that you do the following…as I have also done. Go through the 1958 letter, item by item, carefully. Note any specific thing(s) that jump out at you, seem familiar…or may have happened relatively recently.
Do an internet search to see when said item first occurred, or was reported.
There are things in there already that may just “prove” the authenticity of the letter, as is also the case with other prophecies and predictions, etc.
Unfortunately, in not too much time from now, it will be so obvious as to be virtually undeniable. Of course it will also largely be…too late to then do much about other things. But this is the way that stubborn humanity has chosen to suffer its way through to the simple, plain, obvious and profound truths of life, understanding of the laws of cause and effect, etc.
Understand that I’m not dodging you. It’s just that it’s time that we all do this kind of thing, that we don’t completely lose our abilities to think, reason, research, consider things like means, motive and opportunity. These last ones are especially important because someone who was representing themselves as an objective researcher, and who had helped find many corroborations, decided to claim that it was effectively all backdated by Meier.
In fact he created a big uproar on Facebook, as well as the FIGU forum, with his position. The problem was the since he…grew up in the internet age, he thought everything was a nice, tidy little matter of determining the real and complete truth about complex issues by doing internet searches alone…DEVOID of reasoning. And especially devoid of an understanding of how means, motive and opportunity must be considered and evaluated in terms of weighing evidence.
This can be understood by reading/watching any real police/detective, court/legal reports, TV shows and things like…Sherlock Holmes, etc. People need to learn how to deduce the truth from evidence, from known circumstances, human motivations, etc. This poor, over-educated fellow must have been given a computer too early, etc.
However, since he has the other requisite faculties, when he learns how to think he’ll probably make great contributions towards drawing attention to the truth.
Hi Sean, excuse me for stepping in but requesting confirmation from the sender of a letter sent to all governments of the world sounds a little backwards to me. Seriously, the only copy they would have is one that was never mailed and what would this prove other than being back at square one disputing the date on it? Wouldn’t it be more logical to send a letter requesting (through freedom of information) confirmation of such letter from government archives?
Hi Sheila,
There’s no problem with butting in, thanks for your input. Sure: If Billy Meier really sent that letter to multiple European governments, (and the American one?), I’d love to hear Michael Horn confirm that for me and I would be happy to request that information under the freedom of information act and see what I can get ahold of. As an alternative, if the letter was published in a journal somewhere – even some UFO society journal in the 50, 60s, or 70s, that would work too. If I saw a photocopy of the original typewritten letter, that would be nice to see, though you’re right, less convincing in that it could have been forged after the fact.
Oh, I almost forgot: In Billy’s 2005 explanation, he mentions Asket confirming that Karl and Anny Veit of “UFO-News” destroyed their copy of the letter. It’s likely most were handled similarly. An FOI request might not get much return.
Sheila, I think Sean has a valid line of reasoning. If a copy of the letter was published in a book sometime after 1958 it would be much more difficult to dispute its prophetic accuracy. Sean, the only thing that I can suggest is note that it was published on the internet around 2006 and see how it relates to the more specific prophecies, biometric implants for example. Only recently are enthusiasts beginning to do this to themselves but the framework for this system is slowly being put into place right now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-frequency_identification
NOTE: Uses > Human identification > “The Food and Drug Administration in the United States has approved the use of RFID chips in humans.”
Taro,
It is clear that bio-chipping of animals and now humans, as well as Islamic extremism is on the rise, though it was on the rise in 2005. I’m afraid that’s not as convincing as reading a letter confirmed to be written in 1958, or published any time up to 1980, that says “the world will be stricken by a pathogen specifically called AIDS.” That’s 100% proof that of a foreshadow because the term “AIDS” simply did not exist anywhere until after that year.
I guess I can wait several decades for the Red Meteor to strike earth. I was hoping I could get incontrovertible evidence before then. 🙂
My apologies. I wasn’t particularly clear in my post.
#40:
“…the citizens of all member countries will finally be brought under total control through biometric data…”
“First the USA and later the European Union will introduce this modern human enslavement…”
These have yet to happen but the signs have been present since around 2006(as was the emergence of the IS) and are currently in development as we speak. Just thought it might be one to keep an eye on in the news, or wherever you keep a beat on things(news sources are becoming more and more difficult to trust for completeness and accuracy IMHO, of course). I think the Red Meteor may appear more suddenly while #40 will have a number of signposts, which have already started. The thing about the Meier case, I’ve found, is that there isn’t any one thing you can splash on the front page news and convince the world but there is so much evidence that cannot be easily dismissed that once they pile up, the one explanation that satisfies all of them becomes much more likely. If Meier was deceptive in any way, I believe there would be much more undeniable signs of this SOMEWHERE among the huge pile(no pun intended). I haven’t been able to find anything “suspicious” that didn’t end up having a consistent and reasonable explanation. Obviously this was deliberate and in the end, the Plejaren don’t even care if you buy into the Billy Meier case as long as the spiritual lessons are being learned, which you obviously are doing. You’re on the right track if that means anything.
Hi Michael,
We are on the same page when it comes to our approach on how to assess the Meier case. I first became familiar with the case when I was 13 years old in 1996; actually, I accessed the contact notes via the internet. I can certainly remember reading the Henoch Prophecies at the time, but I was probably too young to understand much of the other contact note content relating to technology, material sciences, politics, etc. As we know, the information is quite substantial when taken together, and at least at 13, I probably didn’t quite have the critical thinking skills required to assess the whole picture including all the UFO pictures, the technical information, and the spiritual teaching. However, I have followed the case on and off ever since, though increasingly more after reading the Goblet of Truth (albeit, imperfectly in English).
Your explanation about the individual who helped you corroborate many of the predictions, explanations, etc. in the contact notes, only to later arrive at the conclusion that Meier must have backdated everything, though perhaps not in a fair and rational manner, is interesting and perhaps telling. I have read people’s comments on your website: On one end of the spectrum, there are some not very intelligent people who say crazy things because they mostly like to feel excited about UFOs and prophecies, and on the other end, there are people who are carefully considering what they’re reading and are probably quite intelligent, but their arrogance may get the best of them in a way that they want to disprove everything for an ego trip, but not because they really want to discern what is actually true.
I’ve walked myself through the following exercise in logic: I cannot prove, with the current information available to me, that Billy Meier has spoken with extraterrestrial humans, that he is a reincarnation of Jmmanuel (alias Jesus), Mohammed, etc, or that he possesses special psychic capabilities like predicting and/or prophesying with clairvoyance. However, his motivations are intentions are rather clear: He wants to bring about a world where people live peacefully, where they are loving and kind to one another, and importantly, where they are able to discern the demonstrable truth from poor assumptions and/or religious beliefs, such that they anchor their lives in something enduring and will never be swindled again by others who want power over them and to cause harm. Clearly, if we all just behaved in accord with his spiritual teaching, against which I can find no rational argument, the world would be a better place instantly. So, if tomorrow, you were able to show me the 1958 German original letter with terms like “AIDS” and “Crystal (meth)” – terms that simply did not exist in that year, that would go a very long way toward convincing me that he really does have an extraterrestrial source and/or is somehow capable of transcending space/time, but it would not change my affinity toward his spiritual teaching or my agreement with the kind of actions he suggests I should take as an individual to make the world a better place (meditation, truth-seeking, etc.)
His spiritual teaching is obviously of primary importance, but again, regarding the physical evidence, I’ve watched a video of you listing dozens of items from the contact notes, and perhaps from the 1958 letter, that you pronounce as “corroborated,” though it’s not clear to me that the information was actually written/typed in a verifiable manner before it occurred. I do recognize that some of this information is quite sensitive and would never have been widely published due to potential undesirable effects, for Meier or for all of humanity (e.g. specific information about the destruction of the world trade center), but surely there is some information that was verifiably written before it occurred. How did you go about verifying it was written in advance? We’re dealing with original German handwriting or typewriting that was later typed out on a computer, I imagine?
I understand if you are reticent about sharing certain details, but hopefully you have a somewhat better understanding now of who I am and where I”m coming from. I am scientist in biotech research so I apologize for my ceaseless inquiring mind. Thanks for your consideration. Cheers!
Sean
I have no problem with your approach, I simply have limited time to go through certain things…which I think many people will be proclaiming with wonder soon enough.
You may even be one of them. For instance, check what Meier said about taxing prostitution…and then do an online search for when and where that was first done, etc. Look at the information about familial abuse, murders, etc., and also see when that became far more than a rarity. Then in due time certain other specifics will be confirmed, the scale will tip indisputably and the crying and moaning will be fully underway.
Look at the Henoch Prophecies and you’ll see mention of the rise in Islamic fundamentalism, the Russian military movements, the Ebola epidemic…all of which happened well after they were first online. And the info from the first version that was published in 1981 has some of the same specifics (see: https://theyflyblog.com/2014/10/09/ironclad/). Now, how likely is all of that to have been backdated?
Hi Michael,
Thanks again for your responses. I did have a look at the link you attached and had the chance to think a bit further. A few words for your consideration…
Perhaps we can distinguish between important information versus information that can actually be used to confirm Meier’s future foretelling capabilities. There a many very important items of interest in the Contact Reports, in the 1958 Letter, and in the Goblet of Truth — or at least I think there is, and I’d like to make clear that I am very glad you’ve made such an effort to share it all with us. However, specifically for the purpose of assessing Meier’s ability to foretell the future, let’s remember that (a) specific events are more convincing than a mass of generalizations and also (b) verification of writing and/or publication dates is rather essential, because without which we cannot rule out a backdating.
Regarding general vs. specific info, in your last response you mentioned Meier’s prophecy of rising familial abuse/murders and the practice of taxing prostitution. These certainly are important issues, but they are probably not best suited to validate Meier’s foretelling capabilities because they are rather general claims- increasing violence and more lenient prostitution laws have been the trend for quite some time, though it depends on where you look in the world. And regarding verification of writing and/or publication dates, it sounds to me like the 1958 letter cannot be used to support Meier’s prophetic accuracy, by itself, because we can neither verify its publication date nor its date of transmission to the governments of earth. (Or at least, that’s what you’re making it sound like to me, thus far.)
Of course, general information and/or unverifiably-dated individual items do not disprove Meier’s foretelling capabilities, nor is it positive evidence that backdating has occurred; I am not suggesting either is the case. And also, I have certainly noted that there is consistency in his writings over time, and he does not appear to claim anything that is blatantly false — together these last two points goes along way toward supporting the legitimacy of Meier’s claims, though strictly speaking, they do not demonstrate his future foretelling capabilities.
Now if we look at the Official Contact Report 215, which supposedly happened on Saturday, February 28, 1987, 2.09 am, and which was published (verified!) Billy Meier/FIGU 2002–2004, it mentions an Ebola outbreak, a Russian military attack on Scandinavia originating from Arkhangelsk, and Islamist immigrants destroying France from within. Regarding these three items, so far the evidence best suited for supporting Meier’s foretelling abilities is the the Ebola outbreak, because a major one happened in 2014. Were Ebola outbreaks happening before the supposed 1987 contact date or the verified publication date in 2004? Actually, according to the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/index.html), since 1976 we’ve had some years with dozens of cases and other years with up to a few hundred cases of Ebola in African countries, but never 20,000 cases like we saw in 2014. Is it possible that Meier just guessed in 2004 and wrote down the Ebola outbreak as a potential? It seems unlikely, but if one was to “fortune tell” a viral outbreak, Ebola was an already known option, certainly by 2004. I think the Ebola outbreak prophecy is persuasive, but it’s not fool proof by itself.
To be honest, Michael, if the Russians attack somewhere in Scandinavia in the summer time after a tornado sweeps through Europe, whereby everything originated from Arkhangelsk, I’ll be convinced Meier has prophetic capabilities. That’s highly specific and there was really no way to foretell such a thing in 2004 – certainly not with that kind of detail. (Indeed, I’ve watched an HBO Vice News episode from last season 2014 where they interviewed the Norwegian military and showed Norway militarizing their borders for the purpose of preparing for a battle with Russians over arctic territory/resources.) Regarding France, over the past decade Islamist immigrants have been causing their country many difficulties with lots of crime in immigrant ghettos; it’s the reason France sort-of attempted to outlaw wearing the hijab. I hope we never see France’s total destruction from within by Islamist militant immigrants, but if that comes to pass, I would assess Meier’s foretelling capability as undeniable, along with the fact that it’s basically too late and we’re all in very deep shit.
At this point, I am persuaded that Meier has valuable information to share with humanity and important warnings that should motivate those who listen to be more loving, truth-seeking, and responsible. Still, I am frustrated in that I cannot yet prove/demonstrate Meier’s foretelling capabilities with verifiable and incontrovertible items. For that reason, I do not feel I am be prepared to start sharing any of Meier’s prophecies with others, because I could not properly defend them, though I certainly feel comfortable sharing those parts of his spiritual teaching that I understand (or think I understand).
That’s enough for now. Thanks for your consideration and all you do. 🙂
Sean
Sean,
In some of my debating the subject of Meier’s authenticity and accuracy, vs. backdating, reproducing, etc., I’ve raised the points that we must consider means, motive and opportunity (MMO) and use deductive thinking.
One problem today is that with rapid access to information online we completely lose sight of MMO and look for some singularly provable thing, or two, that will then “convince” us of Meier’s accuracy. So, since you are scientific and logical in your approach, I now invite to get very…real life. TO do this you not only want to gather all of his prophetic information going back to 1951 (or 1948, to be more accurate) but also gather all known biographical information and that which was reported on by the investigative team. Meier’s life is extremely well documented for someone these days who started off as a “simple Swiss farm boy” and all that.
By reading this you should begin to get a view of what and how this man’s actual, real, day-to-day life looked like, was comprised of as viewed by independent investigators. This will give you an idea of what resources he had technologically, financially and collaboratively, if any. It will give you an opportunity to ponder how and WHY an 11-year-old boy was writing about beam weapons and environmental problems in 1948, how and why in 1951, 1958, 1964, etc., etc., he kept writing more and more detailed, prophetically accurate information.
By rereading the available documents you’ll also see little thing that may not – or may not have seemed so important but which, like grains of sand on a scale, add up and tip it.
Ask yourself if you, anyone you know, most people you don’t know who were alive at those times were writing down these things…while they were also presenting an abundance of still irreproducible, physical evidence of UFOs, etc. Look at all of this through the filter of MMO, the how, why and when of it. And perhaps watch a few episodes of any of the Sherlock Holmes stories. And please understand that I mean this in the spirit of discovering the truth, etc.
Yes – those are sensible suggestions. I do understand your emphasis on the value of thinking about Meier’s claims within the context of the circumstances which surrounded his writings – his age at the time of writing, available financial and technological resources, etc. I will start looking at biographical information from any and all available independent investigators. Your responses were very timely, thanks; and I’ll check back with you if I have a more specific question about where to find something. Cheers!
Sean
Wonderful, thanks.
I just want to add one thing to this discussion. Prophecies and predictions are not the same. The end results of prophecies can be altered, which in my understanding is their function. There is reason to believe that influential organizations such as The Church, governments etc. are in fact paying attention to Billy’s words although not openly. A prophecy failing to become real is not a failed prophecy. Every human on this planet has the capacity to somehow alter prophecies with their own free will. However, predictions, such as astronomical discoveries can also fail to pass depending on the nature of the discovery. Volcanic activity on moons are not necessarily a perpetual event, for example. It may exist when the prediction is made but Earth scientists may miss it for one reason or another.
Hi Taro,
Yes, with respect to Billy’s future foretelling capabilities, I understand the difference between “prophecies” and “predictions,” as he has defined them. As you mentioned, not only are the prophecies capable of changing, but given that they are quite bleak (understatement), we should all hope that they do change, and yes, I believe that is in part their function: to dissuade and avoid castrophies. Perhaps the Catholic Church is aware of Billy’s work, and they read that if they were to have elected Petrus Romanus (pehaps Peter Kudwo, a potential from Africa who now resides in Rome), that would have ushered in the total destruction of their establishment. It’s not possible to say, however. Knock on wood, Pope Frank appears to be a moderate who is spending a lot of time cleaning up the corruption that previous Popes have left him; I hope that is his legacy. At any rate, because Billy’s prophecies are subject to change, it is more difficult to use them as a whole to substantiate his foretelling capabilities, as some of them may not occur, but a single prediction, which according to Billy must necessarily occur, can be used as evidence to prove/disprove his foretelling capabilities. For example, the arrival of the Red Meteor will absolutely occur in our life time according to Billy, though terrestrial scientists currently consider it very low probability. Should the red meteor not arrive by 2029 or 2036, we will know Billy is not telling the full truth. If it does, we would know that he is capable of foretelling events, without much argument to the contrary.
Sean
I’m not sure I see the value of isolating Meier’s prophetic evidence as proof of his honesty. His honesty is more difficult to question when all his evidence is considered collectively. Also, not all of his prophecies are limited to the 1958 letter. There are others which have been published in either print or online long before their arrival. You may need to do some digging to locate them as I don’t think they are
all listed together in one place as such.
Well Taro, since human beings keep demonstrating how pathetically stupid we are, I thought it just may be a nice touch to present any and everything that anyone with half a brain might want to consider. Since Meier’s information is impeccably accurate – without any evidence that he’s ever faked or backdated it, etc. – I understand that having to come to terms with this is more than difficult for non-thinking people but for the few that exist here and there it may help them to understand, to explain, to think, etc.
“Pathetically stupid” is an understatement in a world where drawing a cartoon will get you killed.
Hi Taro,
Patanjali taught that all things precipitate out of “the Raincloud of Knowable Things”. He also taught how the creative imagination plays a role in such precipitates. The advent of such precipitates and the form they take are of little interest to those who understand Patanjali. What’s of significance are the abstract principles laying behind them. In researching information provided by Billy and Michael, two fundamental abstract points seem to be relevant: 1) For whatever reason, we have a planet whose human population and behaviors have placed the Earth at risk of ecological catastrophe. 2) While most of humanity is largely driven by limited material wants, needs, and desires, a small percentage are compelled to acquire influence, power, control, and, in a few instances, absolute dominion. These two propositions are described by Billy as “overpopulation” and “organized selfish greed”.
Now, in assaying some of Billy’s detailed information and claims regarding contact with benign extraterrestrials, it should be clear that the Patanjalic questions become: 1) “Are such eventualities Patanjalic precipitates?” and 2) “What role do such precipitates play in the process of translation (top-down, from the more subtle to the more material)”? We might all agree that it’s reasonable to expect that at some point humanity will be contacted (not make contact with, since that requires we first become “precipitative agents”). The answer to that question is that the Billy Meier case does, in fact, parallel Patanjalic precipitation — the ontological truth of which is caught up in epistemological storytelling. (In other words, there’s no way to “speak truth” without telling a story, and all stories are, at best, approximations of “the ontological Real”.)
Where does all of this lead? Every human being plays a role in the precipitative process. That process is a long slow trip requiring we “let go of the past and embrace the future”. The forces at work inhibiting that process play a valuable role in determining our worthiness to become precipitative. Those benign beings at work promoting the precipitative process are limited to, at best, creating opportunities to overcome our own ignorance and misunderstanding. There is a precipitative phrase that encapsulates the process of being human: “We are all on a path that leads from naivete to innocence.” That path requires insightful thought, sublimated feeling, and discriminative action. At its conclusion we will no longer judge, but experience compassion and understanding for all.
Patanjalically, we are all preparing to become “precipitative agents”, the first step is to go beyond the bounds of conventionality. There are many now who peek through the conventional veil. Most get caught up in fabulous notions of what is seen. Fewer still have had enough experience with what lies beyond to navigate the emotive glamours and mental illusions encountered as maya loses its allure.
The jury should always be out on such details as Pleiadeans, predictions of future events, prophecies of potential outcomes etc. Let Billy and Michael tell their stories. The Truth is never a “fact” — it’s a holographic way of seeing the Universe in which all dots connect and everything makes sense. Once that’s achieved, be prepared for “the shock of revelation”. For even such a holographic truth is epistemological, but, at least, it will begin to make sense of “A Great Mystery Beyond All Human Conception”.
Thanks for the patience needed to get through all these heavy thoughts. Laugh regularly!
The problem with trying to use a particular philosophical system, or cosmology, as a reference, barometer, standard, etc., to determine the validity and authenticity of the Billy Meier contacts, and all material contained therein, is made clear in the summation:
“The jury should always be out on such details as Pleiadeans, predictions of future events, prophecies of potential outcomes etc. Let Billy and Michael tell their stories. The Truth is never a ‘fact’, etc.”
This “conclusion” shows that the author may have gotten lost in their cosmology and never studied the Creation-energy teaching, which is not only the key to clear, logical, reality-based thinking but also the proof-in-itself of the non-theoretical…factual truth.
This is so difficult to read! Why does it have to be so complicated?
It’s with readings like this that I thank my consciousness for not having spent any time on concepts that lead no where.
How much more paper will have to be wasted and how many more trees will have to be cut before we realize that these kinds of authors write in circles?
Has anyone got a link to the coast to coast Interview. Thanks
What interview?
Someone mentioned a new coast to coast.
Can I delete this website from the Internet?
I don’t know about that but perhaps you should first decide whether you’re “Mike” or “Mark” using the same IP address, etc.
I can’t even put into words the feelings I have about “Mike” or “Mark” comment without being mean, so I won’t. This morning, as in so many days lately, I am seeing many people exhibit this crazy “in your face” and pacific aggressive behavior. Is it because we are seeing so much in terms of bad news, scary news and they are just worn down? No excuse, in my books, the reality is messy. Has our modern life created this don’t give a sh@t, just want to shock attitude? Or is it they have lost touch with humanity all together? I see this kind of, sit behind a screen, dishing out this rubbish everywhere on the net now, such cowardly behavior!
Ev,
There’s an epidemic of cowardice. It often goes hand in hand with bullying behavior of one sort or another. It seems like it occurs a lot with people who accomplish nothing, are envious of others, etc., etc.
If this person can rise to the level of being non-stupid, they can post here.
People like Mark-Mike post comments that are intended to get a rise out of others. They only do so because they are perfectly aware they are unable to engage in any form of logical debate. It’s their only option. I’ve found that when you confront these types with a strict, logical style of discourse they run out of steam very quickly. And that’s only if they have the stones to engage in any form of rational debate at all. Or, they run around in circles avoiding logic altogether. The logical debate is the PRECISE reason people like Derek Bartholomaus(http://www.billymeierufocase.com/) absolutely refuse to include any form of discussion on their websites. They know it can only serve to weaken their presentations.
Right. And the Maus openly reveals his bankrupt position in so doiung.
And exactly why is he here if he wants to delete it? He’s entitled to speak his mind and we are not? Typical of the attitude present in the me, myself and I crowd. Be careful what you wish for, especially when that wish is to take someone else’s freedom!
Hello again, Michael!
On my continuing quest to evaluate the veracity of Meier’s claims, I must say that I am, as a biologist who has worked in both academic neuroscience research and corporate biotech for a decade, especially impressed with the information contained in the contact reports that pertain to the biological sciences. The explanations given are shockingly articulate, contain highly specific, relevant information, demonstrate advanced critical thinking, and cover a surprisingly vast array of topics (e.g. pineal gland regenerative functions, memory retention and the process of forgetting, milk as a not-good source for calcium, immune function, human/Neanderthal phylogeny, palaeontology, to name a few.) There is no doubt in my mind that the Contact Report information that pertains to biology is both written and compiled by an expert, due to its eloquence, accuracy, and insight. I should note, however, that experts with Ph.Ds in biological sciences (or any field, actually) focus and expound on only specific topics; they would not attempt to write in depth on the full breadth of topics I’ve listed above.
To date, with respect to all of the biological science explanations contained in the Contact Reports that I have read and researched, I assess them as either provable and accurate, or for those assertions currently unprovable or in dispute by current scientists, Meier’s claims are rational and not in violation of provable, known facts. I have not yet seen a falsifiable statement, only corrective insights which would serve as a rational hypothesis. On the contrary, for example, if I read a book like Dianetics, by the Scientology cult originator L. Ron Hubbard, there are many examples of “scientific” information that are readily disprovable even by those with a novice understanding of certain fields. I find no such simple errors in Meier’s biological science claims. Also, the explanation that Meier or FIGU is plagiarising this information from expert publications in Nature, Science, etc., doesn’t fit well. First of all, I have not found an example of direct verbatim plagiary, and to do this regularly would be very stupid and easy to catch. And actually, only experts in biology would know how to select the kind of information that Meier writes about in order to plagiarise it, because a novice would not really know which content was meaningful or provided some key to a problem, which Meier’s insights do. Yet even an expert biologist who was selecting and plagiarising texts for Meier would make a mistake at some point and publish a specific assertion from one piece of research that was later disproven unequivocally by more current research. And it is not just the use of specific facts; Meier’s claims demonstrate advanced critical thinking skills, and challenges conventional understanding, indeed even in my own trade, in the field of immunology.
Here is an example of an explanation in the Contact Reports that demonstrates expert level reasoning in the field of immunology which cannot be invented, nor selected and then plagiarized, by an amateur. In Contact Report 221, lines 34-44, the speaker (allegedly the ET Quetzal) is giving a comprehensive explanation about the general way the immune system functions. And while it is a textbook quality explanation, it refutes something about the conventional textbook terminology of immunology, regarding “non-specific” (innate) vs. “specific” (adaptive) immunity, in a manner I personally have not seen before.
“Contrary to the erroneous opinion of the earthly medical sciences, the defense mechanisms of the immune system that is innate to the human being are aligned specifically, as this is also true of the acquired and natural immune system.
“The entire immune system of an innate, acquired, and natural form, which is owned by all vertebrate life forms, is specifically designed in every respect, so therefore, for every kind of pathogen and other health-hazardous element, etc., specific defense factors are given.
“Nevertheless, it is also given that some defensive elements are responsible for multiple pathogens or other health-hazardous factors and substances, etc.” (allegedly Quetzal in allegedly 1987)
First of all, no expert in 1987 could ever make such a statement because the requisite discoveries to inform this explanation did not occur until a decade later. And interestingly, to date in 2015, we still use the term “non-specific” to refer to innate immunity, in all of our textbooks, in scientific literature, in common parlance, and on Wikipedia entries, etc. The reason we use the term “non-specific” to refer to innate immunity is that before the mid 1990s, immunologists observed that cells of the “non-specific” innate system were able to detect a wide variety of bacteria and virus, but they didn’t know how, and hence we called it “non-specific” defence. Starting around 1995, we began to discover what we now call “Pattern Recognition Receptors” which are an array of receptors on the surface of “non-specific” innate cells, but each receptor targets a specific component of bacteria or virus, albeit these specific components are found on and within multiple kinds of bacterial and viral pathogens. These discoveries validate Quetzal’s statement. In fact, the innate cells are “specifically aligned,” and bind to specific, unique targets, when we get down to the molecular level of receptors. An amateur cannot invent critical thinking skills to produce a corrective insight such as this about the conventional terminology we use in immunology. An amateur would not know to plagiarize this line of reasoning when he read it because he wouldn’t understand what it meant or its significance. I tried to find a current explanation in textbooks and in online literature that asserts that the term “non-specific” is a misnomer for the reasons specified in Quetzal’s explanation; I cannot find this explanation anywhere else in English. Further, I cannot begin to imagine what kind of expert in my field would decide to plagiarize this statement from some source, then team up with Meier, backdate it to 1987, so that he could pretend along with Meier that the real source of the insight is from ETs. Experts with advanced knowledge in my field would not be motivated to behave in this manner, unless they are unscrupulous and being paid very handsomely, but clearly Meier does not have the kinds of funds to bribe such extensive services.
I wrote to both Benjamin Stevens and Vivienne Leg, the translators of Contact Report 221, to find the original writing and publication date. Their responses were congenial and somewhat helpful. Vivienne has access to the Contact Report 221 published as early as 2004 (with the ISBN number of the publication), though she mentioned that it the original German publication was in The Semjase Blocks which she does not have access to. I wrote to Christian Frehner at FIGU in regards to the writing and publication date of the Contact 221 info in The Semjase Blocks, but received no answer. Perhaps he is busy. I wonder if you, Michael, can obtain access to The Semjase Blocks that contain Contact Report 221, or can give a publication date?
To rehash, even though I cannot yet prove that Meier is providing explanations before expert biologists know it, they are expert explanations nonetheless, and I find them both unassailable and insightful. I look forward to more of them pursuant to translation from German to English. I’ll let you know if I see something that was plagiarised or is obviously false. I’d like to hear from other biologists regarding their thoughts on these explanations as well. And I would genuinely like to see what Derek Bartholomaus or other skeptics think about my analysis regarding Meier/FIGU’s expert level reasoning in biology.
Cheers
(Full Disclaimer: I have a B.S. in Neuroscience, 2 years of research in neuroscience, and 8 years of research in immunology. I do not have a P.h.D. I welcome anyone with a more advanced degree, or more specific knowledge than myself, to evaluate my conclusions, or directly evaluate the veracity of Meier’s claims)
Derek Bartholomaus has a B.S. in B.S.
…and that’s not even a joke. I’ve found at least one FALSE statement in every single section of his website(http://www.billymeierufocase.com/)
https://theyflyblog.com/2014/06/24/skeptics-we-wrong-billy-meier-ufo-case-authentic/comment-page-2/#comments
The haus of Maus is full of flaws.
Hi Sean,
As you pointed out, most scientists are specialists. They may hold beliefs beyond the bounds of their specialty but may or may not hold to the same process of evaluating such beliefs. Science begins with observation of properties and behaviors, leading to characterization, hypothesis, validated testing, theory, and, eventually (once other specialists concur) law. Science is limited by the fact that consensually agreed upon laws begin with objective validation. Yet there are many phenomena that can only be examined “from within”. Such subjective phenomenon (life after death, the presence of an immortal soul, God etc.) defy objective proof. Some, such as the existence of an etheric energy pattern behind all objective forms (dark matter?), are already being explored — yet there will always be subjective realities beyond sciences ken. While science can be extended to explore such possibilities, such an “inner science” can’t be relied upon to be consensually validated until “group inner science” precipitates through the ethers into normative reality.
The jury remains out on Billy’s contacts and should remain so until the investigator develops the objective or subjective means to demonstrate their ontological reality…