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Sunday, April 28, 2024

The Billy Meier UFO contacts singularly authentic ongoing for 80 years the key to our future survival

Regarding Billy Meier as the Reincarnation of “Jesus Christ”

The first thing to say is that this claim is utterly impossible, since there was no person named “Jesus Christ” who lived about 2,000 years ago. “Jesus Christ” is the fictionalized version of a real human being named Jmmanuel (pronounced the same as Emmanuel of Immanuel).

Having declared this distinction, it can be stated, as a matter of fact, that the actual claim is that Meier is indeed the reincarnation* of Jmmanuel, as well as a certain number of other specific prophets said to be in this lineage. It must also be acknowledged that the information substantiating this claim will not be well received, thought through and/or accepted by many people.

While I have been aware of this information for some time, I have not focused on it, up until recently. I tried being even less subtle in presenting the claim but, surprisingly, no one seemed to pick up on, let alone attack, it. Since Christians have been, and will continue to be, waiting in vain for what I call the “Second Helping” I thought it would be a good idea to point out that what and who they have essentially been waiting for has long been present and working on the same task at hand that his various predecessors also were involved in.

Of course there’s never been any mission to “save” people from their so-called “sins” and absolutely none of the other convolutions of the mind-numbing, enslaving versions of Christianity, or any other religion, have any validity as they intentionally direct people to put the complete responsibility for their own lives onto some imaginary god, savior, saint, etc. None such exist, except as creations of very confused human beings, so the worship, hopes and expectations directed towards them are simply god-delusion and the abdication of the essential personal responsibility for one’s own life that applies to every single human being.

As is to be expected, therefore, this message of self-responsibility is to be found in abundance in the true spiritual teaching, despite having been expunged from virtually every religion, “holy book”, etc.

Perhaps in a quasi-humorous attempt to subtly awaken, if not chide, the more fundamentalist Christians who anticipate that their “savior” (dare I say, “heaven help us”?) will “descend from the  clouds”, Meier was allowed to take photographs from within a UFO of two other craft flying above the Swiss countryside. If the concept of “what goes up must come down” isn’t too scientific for them, the “true believers” might lubricate their thinking by contemplating the implications of the photographs, especially since Meier indeed “descended” and landed after he took the photographs.

Meier’s role as the prophet for these times certainly affords him no glamorous, celebrity-centered position. As always, it is a basically thankless task necessitated by the thick-headedness of the mass of humanity, which has succeeded in perching itself so precariously close to the precipice of an almost bottomless pit that a plunge into it is almost inevitable.

While the claim that Meier is a prophet, and the reincarnation of the major ones before him, will disturb if not enrage Christians, it will sit no better with members of other religions, atheists, skeptics and know-it-all scientists, of course. None of this has any bearing, naturally, on the validity of the claim. Meier has stated that humanity will take approximately 800 more years to civilize itself and evolve to the status of rational, logical and truly loving real human beings, who value and live in real love, peace, freedom and harmony.

It would be nice to see this happen much, much faster but an objective view of world conditions, human consciousness – and religious delusion – seems to speak strongly against this likelihood.

 

*Technically, the “person”, i.e. the personality, doesn’t reincarnate. It’s the spirit (also called “spirit form”) that reincarnates, so we are never the same person but always a new person with a new personality, consciousness, psyche, etc.

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Maddox

Alright. You have my apologies, MH. I am skeptic by nature and very much agree with some of your points seen on this site. Yes, my research, if it could have been called that, was very….lacking. I merely wished to know more and I apologize for basically attacking your credibility. I still have much suspicion about all of this.

I did see the list of Meier’s prophecies and predictions though. While they were very, for lack of a better term, interesting, I still find them to be…somewhat general. And with the ability to say that some of the prophecies are inaccurate or subject to change, a guess as to there being, for example, water on Mars could have been given at any time over and over. If it was found, it was true. If it wasn’t, then oh well, roll again. Many of his predictions seemed easily guessed with any scientific research or something of the like.

Again, I am sorry for attacking you under an anonymous guise with little to no research. I’m very questioning in my nature and always have been. I do believe in intelligent life farther than our planet, but I don’t see undeniable proof of contact. As for why I said you weren’t “famous”, I meant it in a very general way. When I read award winning for film, I just thought of an Oscar or something of the like. I’m sorry for my rigid thinking. While this sounds…stupid, it was 3:00 in the morning and I was overly tired and already agitated from the former day. I’m not pushing everything on that one excuse though. Again, you have my most humble apologies.

Evelyn@Galactic Australia

I couldn’t wait for that day when we all look back and find books in our modern library where HOAX Histories, and one day tell our children how we were once part of that age – The Age of Lies and Deception.

Tobias Paul Mooten

what i can say about the FIGU german website is this

-the proof is given
-the discussion on the forum is good education
-the teachings and books are a treasure
-the bulletins are actual and super interesting read
– etc etc etc

I can only advise enyone to go there, the forum is english

Thank you Billy Figu M.H and all the others

tweetybyrd1057

Michael, do you ever compare what Billy is saying to biblical scriptures? For instance, Matthew 1:23 “The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”–which means, “God with us.”. If you go to Genesis, the Bible talks about “angels” who came to earth and bred with earthly women.

The bible speaks of celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies. If you listen to Katt Kitty’s two hour youtube video, she clearly states there is a race of people in heaven who resemble humans but they aren’t human. I understood this to mean celestial bodies the Bible speaks of. The Bible says man is made is God’s image. Also says Adam walked with God. Speaks of angels being a different race but “higher” than man. I don’t think this man is disputing the Bible at all. He’s actually confirming much of it. As for abortion, the Bible speaks about removing a fetus from the womb and a man wasting his “seed” confirming that abortion is also mentioned in the Bible. I think even though he’s got a lot of things right (true prophet), we should consider that the celestial beings he’s communicating with, while attempting to help us, are capable of misinterpretations just like we are. If they got Immanuel right (still Jesus Christ), and angel Michael, the question then becomes why would they leave out the existence of God? Now if you read the Bible at all, you know the Bible states, “know ye that ye are gods”? I believe some of what he says is true because its also in the Bible but he loses me when he denies God. I also disagree with him when he says we cannot communicate with people who have passed on. Didn’t they communicate with Lazarus?

Before people denounce the Bible as myth and untruths, they should actually read it. More than once. Also, do some research on Biblical prophesies. Its not a big stretch to say UFOs exist since if there are celestial beings in this vast universe, surely they must travel somehow. I really struggle with a lot of this because it wasn’t taught in my upbringing, however, I’ve always wanted to know “more”.

I have the same kinds of dreams that Billy does. But before there was a Billy or I, there was a guy named Daniel in the Bible. I love knowledge and always want to know the whole truth about the God I love so dearly. I will continue to read prayfully some of Billy’s information and compare them to the Bible. One question I’d like Billy to answer for me. What do they say about the “holy spirit” and in the genealogies, is Henoch the one and same Enoch who was also carried into heaven and met God?

Vizard

Dear tweetybyrd, You sound like somebody who thinks the way I do, I would like to suggest you read Allan Kardec’s The Spirits Book, Winifred Moyes’s Christian Spiritualist, Zodiac Messages aswell as the Urantia Book, all free online, also there is much on the Sacred texts website that is fascinating, hope you find this helpfull, God Bless.

david

Tweety….its good to question everything, you seem like a thinking person. its hard to get on board with somethings because we are raised, generally, in ignorance with long established stories of how people have interpreted reality. Im in my late twentys but i know there was a time i would have believed in a god, its what you want do when you are a morally inclined person. there has to be an order to things right? it dosent make sense but you figure ”well thats the way it must be” etc we know it can inspire alot of good, and belief is addictive to people cuz its nice and dreamy, everything will be alright as long as i live accordingly and love god etc I’ve been there.

Im digressing a bit here! oh yeah, some of your points, regarding contact with the dead, Billy didnt say you cant contact the dead, this is one of many misunderstandings with him. The plejaren stated that there exist very few real mediums on this planet, there are lots of people who can connect to the other sphere but there is no knowledge, only remnants of that persons life while they were living, so its mostly a futile, sentimental procedure. Again, its an aid for recovery for some who are in bereavement, but ultimately its not a good thing because they have lived there life and no longer concerned with this life.

As for someones statement about human-like beings in ‘heaven’ in the bible heaven derives from ‘the heavens’ which obviously means other planets from which beings came. so of course there are humans in the ‘heavens’ and human like, because all that exists in this universe is matter ‘fine’ and ‘coarse’ the latter making up stars, planets and the beings that develop on the planets. Life is seemingly complex but paradoxically very simple, the spiritual aspect is the part that troubles most. To me, now, its really very illogical to suppose we are provided the secrets of eternity on this planet within one lifetime and so readily available to every jane and joe. The fact that other beings have been visiting here for thousands of years should tell you something, i say fact because when you research everything it is indisputable. im rambling now! the plejaren have provided a wealth of info on so much, its just fascinating to say the least.

T57

Michael;

I enjoyed reading through this(1st time for me), and the goal IS being accomplished(I suspect you already knew that) – that of stirring the mind so as to assist its evolution and that of the Earth-humans connected to those minds!

From my limited perusal of apologists and detractors statements on Eduard Albert Meier “Billy”, I find many, if not 90% have failed to cross-reference their reading, (as to the many position statements contained in the Meier material) – though that is a time available to read statement(many of us do not take the time to do such).

I have studied across many disciplines and cross-referenced the data where disparate source-material connected areas where little few have been(in their conclusions). Having been raised on a Native American reservation, I learned early on that history is rarely truthfully reported – in single reference points. AND, having been inside the printing-publishing industry for over 40 years, know first hand, the translations processes, and text generation of books, histories and dogmas.

ANY student of history can find all the source materials, I found. ‘Billy’s’ material has passed through the same ‘human hands’, with detractors from within and without.

FROM all my studies, his goal(as well as the Plejarens’) seems to be to generate sufficient stimulus to cause the minds and heart inside us to evolve into something better.

I find that process WORKING very well!

Keep it up!

T57

Shane

Verbatim: this post
“*Technically, the “person”, i.e. the personality, doesn’t reincarnate. It’s the spirit (also called “spirit form”) that reincarnates, so we are never the same person but always a new person with a new personality, consciousness, psyche, etc.”

The above sounds confusing since it is suggested that Billie is the reincarnation of prophets of old. And strangely all his incarnations are born with the same purpose – Prophethood. 
This begs the questions – what about all the other prophets and messengers? Are they considered false or lesser prophets because it is not of Billies incarnated lineage? And what makes this lineage exclusive? Im at the thought, after reading this and well searched on Billie, that what makes the Pleiadians different from the other galactic races and why is it their involvement that appears to be exclusive, especially regarding prophethood of their messengers? Clearly there is an agenda that needs investigation especially since it raises contention within religious communities about their prophets. How is this meant to imbue UNITY – something the Pleiadians preach? 

As much as I’ve read the many Meier material and remain inspired by the wisdom, I’m growing more disappointed in ‘royalty’ claims

Jesus, Mohamed, and awaited Mahdi in Islam all seems to be Billie. What about people, real conscious people, who came claiming to be the Madhi or some Warner or Sage? 

Let’s look into this.
Regarding the Mahdi being Mohamed Abdullah (as your post read) –
I have to point out that many assert that his name will be Ali Mohamed – different from Abdullah – that is one point…

In 1800s The Babi movement believed their founder to be the Mahdi. As well as the Bahai Faith who spreads this message and the Prophet founder Bahaulla (the supreme manifestation of the Bahai faith) also claimed that the Bab (meaning the Gate) is the Mahdi. Before we debunk these claims, we can search their prophecies, way before Billies, and compare if they were true prophets. In my opine, they were sagely accurate. 

The life and agenda of the long expected Mahdi was/is meant to correlate in Hadith and amongst Islamic folk lore. If Hadith have some measure of truth then it appears to have come to pass about 150yrs ago.

In 1844 (1260 AH) The Imam Mahdi appeared and was born with the name of Ali Mohammad. He was later titled The Bab due to his high and divine intellect and more so his knowledge on Islam was able to challenge the dogmatic imaam rulers. Because he challenged many social issues, in spreading equality and the like, he was a threat to the ottoman rulers. The Bab was captured, subsequently executed by gunfire by 700 regimen, in broad daylight. According to history, the witnesses claim, a miracle occurred after the smoke cleared. He was not at his post of execution except for a young man who willingly joined him. He was found completing his thesis in his cell. Then another attemp with new regimen was successful. 

When we investigate the story and his intentions to bring awareness to his people, who were ruled with nefariousness, we will find that his actions were very similar to those of Jesus character. Being that he apposed the rulers and brought greater awareness to the many suffering. The reason I point this out, as I could many other soothsayers of past and current, is that share the difference between them and Billie Meier.i.e they were actively involved and directly challenged the rulers and were exiled or tortured and even killed because there was no stopping them. My point is, their was a man who prophecied and certainly intended messages of unity and integration. Do we exclude such a man BECA– — — USE he does not fit the reincarnation line of Enoch and the ‘exclusivity’ of the Pleiadians? I certainly don’t think so and if this is expected of us,  then I have my reservations towards Billie and his teachers and their past messengers.

I am not religious, nor have a religion, but do accept that people are and can be messengers for each other, without having to be of an exclusive clan. Especially, I, recognize those who risk their lives in search of Humanity’s betterment, such as the Bab, Ghandi and even Mandela are all equals as far as i can see it. However with regards to Billie Meier, I cannot see him fit the/your description of this Mahdi awaited in Islam, albeit me being a follower of his wisdom and teachings. Because it was expected of the Mahdi, according to folklore, that he would bring about positive change in Islam. The muslims are far from positive.  I also have to point out that Billie Meier has wrought no improvement when compared to Bahai movement’s active involvement in unity in diversity by millions of participants worldwide. They actually making a difference compared to any other religion thus far.

Billie Meier may have a mission to fulfill from The Pleaidians – But – to date I personally see no positive change wrought by his wisdom. Perhaps in the near future yes, who knows, but currently their remains a large amount of skeptics and religious folk who appose his literature especially his claims of being a true prophet, as if denying all who played a positive role here. The irony for me is someone claiming prophetic staus in a wayward world, referring to religions in general, and still having to claim that no God exists but Creation, makes it nearly impossible to gain favor by a people you hope to invite and imbue positively. 

As for the claim of Billie being Mohamed will remain erroneous as long as Islam exists, because Islam does not accept reincarnation theory nor will they accept any claiming the return of Mohamed. Pertinent to note is they are believers with faith meaning they are taught to believe in spirituality without the need for proof. 
Again the irony of hoping to invite readers of your wisdom yet raise contention, is simply not wise and defeats the initial purpose. The same applies to Jesus scenario. I’d much rather state that man needs no Saviour or prophet to guide them than profess exclusivity or the same spirit, which btw imbues pedestal worship – something mankind can do without.  The world remains in turmoil because of mans inability to reason, consequently the very hinderance to earn us this long awaited and professed world peace. 
 Sadly though these are the 4,5 billion religious people who needs to be appealed to, as they are the greater population needed to make this unified paradigm shift. After all who are these sage Pleiadian messages intended for? 

Throughout history, namely at the advents of every of the 11000 plus religions, denominations and cults, we will discover a parallel in its cause of divisions, global disunity and lack of integrated spirituality due to this very dissapointing fact. The world remains perpetually challenged with consequences wrought by passionate representatives using every source to augment an agenda. It makes no sense to ardently prove or express a persons status as incarnations of past prophets and or the fulfillment of a long awaited prophecy. It just doesn’t make sense. Such undiscerned claims are the cause for perpetual negation against the organization you represents, FIGU in this case, and the causer of doubt to yourlisteners and seekers of wisdom. Not very wise Mr Horn.

Regards
Shane Schuller
South Africa

Shane

Mr Horn, I am fully aware of the content and have been researching and spreading his information for many years in my community. Thus don’t appreciate your assumption and the way you defensively respond accusing me of earning my info from blogs, as if you an authority on this matter. Furthermore you fail to understand the essence of my post consequently jumped to conclusions as if you protecting sacrosanct material and we dare not question it. Well in my opinion, actions like that is no difference from age clergymen and an embarrassment to a worthy cause. Your approach should be monitored by your own consciousness.

 I in no way claimed to disbelieve his case nor debunk his work and Plajeran (not Pleiadian). You may note my responses on your other blogs and other sites as well are not against but for Billy’s (not Billie). However regarding this specific subject – prophethood…And not questioning his prophecies as i do subscribe to it, but prophet lineage and the way its presented by you. Therefore felt it imperative to point out as I did. 

The point is very obvious, that it imbues negation. Specifically looking at all past religions having earned global disunity, I would imagine the Plajeran, with their time travel ability and awareness of past issues, would know better than spread a message of prophethood in the manner of Jesus, Mohamed and Enoch etc. Billy and FIGU too should be aware of this. My questions are clear, how wise is it to disseminate messages that intend integration and peace, with ‘tools’ of invitable destruction?

 Mr Horn it seems again you lack tact in your response and overlook importance.
Verbatim: “And if you “see no positive change wrought by his wisdom” then perhaps your are looking in the wrong place,”

“You have attributed many erroneous things to Billy Meier, the Plejaren and to the mission.” 
Please point out where have I done this?

“Please feel free to go beyond your hastily drawn conclusions” 
Mmm…hastily drawn conclusions. 

So my questioning/addressing causes of disunity and disintegration are hastily drawn conclusions??? 

Like I said Mr Horn, you not very wise and yep you right may be FIGU online would be a better place to address these matters as you clearly have no way of responding. 

Thank you for your time.

Vizard

Shane. I had not looked at this thread in almost a year then by pure chance I discovered it bookmarked in an old phone and reread it a few hours after your last post, which I thought a strange coincidence, seeing as there had been no other comments since I last looked, I believe you are right to question Meiers claims to be a reincarnated Prophet. I believe you were probably drawn to his teachings because there is a lot of truth in them. But Meiers ‘teachings’ are not really new, he seems to have adapted them from Gnosticism, Neo-Platonism, Hermeticism Rosicrucianism, some Spiritualist channeled works, but mostly Theosophy, Theosophists call the First Source, the Absolute and its’ first emanations the Logos, this is the part of The Absolute/God that is at the centre of the Universe and that we are Spiritually Evolving towards. Meiers has created a Religion for Old Testament hating Atheists

Vizard

Shane, I also believe the last incarnation of true Prophets were The Bab and Bahaulla, (although I’m not a Bahai), Meier is all too low in his nature and personal life to be what he says. I’m actually a Christian Spiritualist I like the teachings of Andrew Jackson Davies,(the true prophet of the new age) and Stainton- Moses, Silver Birch and winifred Moyes. The Urantia Book is interesting too. .Angels/Aliens are talking to us, but are they talking to Meier ?

Vizard

You say, “it’s not important to accept that Meier is a reincarnated Prophet” but I rather think it is, because if he is not, then he is either lieing or he is delusional, which would put a doubt on the veracity of his other teachings. I have looked into his material that is available online, as I have an interest in ALL modern Revelation, but I can see no reason to believe Meier is the only source of truth any more than the Bible or any other Revelations or channeled Teachings are. But my belief that God is the ultimate source and centre of all things is a common one in many different Teachings. You actually sound as closed minded in your beliefs as any Religious Fundamentalist or materialist Atheist. PS I noticed the second half of my last comment did not appear.

Leon Francis

Anyone who discredits Billy Meier does so only out of ignorance to the details of the Case – you dont have to argue amoungst yourselves about wheather or not the Meier UFO case is real fake….just look into the meier case properely for yourself, – look at the teachings not the UFO pictures – Get A copy of the Goblet of Truth, read it and decide after – its self evident to anyone – My trust would be with Billy Meier over any of the worlds leaders

Donna M.

Dear Michael,

I was born with hearing loss but I also gained the gift of telepathy and other abilities as a little girl. I was protected for a time until I was an adult that can handle the rejection by those who has yet to experience what I have seen and experienced in my adult life. With this being said, I have had dreams and visions of Emmanuel who often told me to not put him on a pedestel nor worship the statues/cross/etc nor bow down to him but all life focus on the Creator. His whole purpose was to enlighten humanity with his teachings to bring them to the next level of awareness. He also told me that we are all brothers and sisters of the Creator of all life in existence. The reincarnation of all life in existence brings about highly evolve souls to the select ones who chose to incarnate for the betterment of humanity to hopefully raise humanity’s enlightment to the idea of a very simple life in uncondtional love, respect, honor, integrity and share with each other their talents/gifts to bring about the balance of all levels of awareness in existence on this planet Earth. I concur that it will take hundreds of years for humanity to even reach that level of enlightment that Emmanuel and other enlightened souls has talked about centuries ago and even now at this present moment in Earth’s history. It seems that the chosen few of us that are awake and aware gets the most brunt of the attacks by not only the powers-that-be who does not want the messengers to reveal the said Truths in order to keep humanity in the dark, so to speak. I have encourage many individuals who have come to me with questions to go within themselves and they will find their Truths. Unfortunately, we are still behind the times, so to speak, into enlightening the people about the Universal truths and life that do exist on other worlds, other dimensions, other timelines, etc. However, there is a plus in our favor in that these Truths are being revealed to humanity through the positive avenue of Internet services, cell phone connections, Ipads, Skype, radio talk host shows, etc. This particular technology has its advantage in order to spread the knowledge and wisdom to humanity on Earth who can exercise their own free will in action in learning more about the Universe and Life in general as a whole. I am grateful to my own blue print assigned awakenings with the advent of UFO sighting (Bay City, Texas June 18, 1987) in front of my own home on a stormy night and the spiritual mission that began shortly thereafter. Thank you for your endeavors to provide the information therein for humanity to learn, grow, and awaken at their own pace to discover their own Truths within themselves. Universal Peace to all on Earth as well as to all within the Universe. I go.

Rino

My dear Donna M.

It’s a pleasure to Write to you.

My only and unique question is☝:

Did this “Emmanuel” tell you that he is “billy Meier” in this life time?

Lyoo

I think there are so many Emmanuel and Jesus. and I think Jesus has never been called “Emmanuel.” At his days, he was called “Yeshua.” please try to read “Jesus and Essenes” and many other books by doloress cannon.

Melissa Osaki

Lyoo, we don’t subscribe to any religions or deities here.

Also, please use your first and last name when commenting. Thanks.

Andrew Grimshaw