There are people who are pro or con regarding the validity of astrology, which has a long history on Earth in various forms. Of course it’s well known that astrology and any and all other forms of divination, etc., are considered to be false in the spiritual teaching. That being said, as freethinkers, we can allow ourselves to look at any claims to the contrary about anything in particular and decide for ourselves. Perhaps there is someone who has developed an intermediary, or more advanced, step towards the correct astrology and, more importantly, it’s actual usefulness to humanity, such as is practiced (if and when it is practiced) by the Plejaren.
The purpose of this blog was basically to give someone who claims to have produced the correct form of astrology a forum in which to make his case. How well he does that is up to each person to decide and not really the point of this article.
I bring up the topic of crop circles here for specific reasons. First, I don’t know the full truth about them myself. It has been revealed that some of them are certainly manmade. My own point of view, which I formulated in the 1990s, was that they must be produced by some very advanced intelligences using equally advanced technologies. Of course, the revelations about the manmade ones narrows the focus down to the more remarkable ones.
Dyson is a strong proponent, to the point of certainty, that those crop circles are absolutely extraterrestrial in origin, specifcally that they are made by the Zeta Reticulum beings. I don’t know. As far as I know there is no proof that this is so, certainly none that I am aware of Dyson, or anyone else, presenting. Of course he could be right, which would be fine by me. But it raises some questions for me.
First of course is how and why Dyson makes these confident assertions without qualifying them, such as “In my opinion”, “It seems to me”, “It appears that”, etc. Those of us, including Dyson, who are strong proponents of the Meier case rely on, and freely present, the best substantiation for the evidence in the case and its singular authenticity, etc. Obviously it’s bad enough that the entire UFO topic has been marginalized due largely to the irresponsibility and unscientific behavior of parties that spread deliberate disinformation in the UFO community, the not so courageous academics, etc.
The information from Meier and the Plejaren hasn’t exactly been definitive or crystal clear regarding crop circles. Although his explanation about impulses from the Creation being received and artistically expressed by people (and maybe other creatures) on Earth is very thought provoking.
If I understand it correctly, Dyson has come to his conclusions based on things like the advanced mathematical and/or geometrical information contained within certain crop circles, as well as their amazingly precise, complex formation and execution, etc. Again, that’s all fine; I don’t know.
But since we don’t yet conclusively know and are still in a state of conjecture, aren’t the proponents of the extraterrestrial origins, and the significance of the content of the circles themselves, indeed just…believers?
At this time, is their position any more valid, or scientific, than those people who are proponents of astrology, for example? After all, with the crop circles there’s all sorts of conjecture as to what they mean, their origins, etc. What uniquely valuable, specific information can we all agree has been effectively communicated to humankind? That’s not a rhetorical question. We have the Meier case with it’s unambiguous, non-cryptic, direct, clear as day prophecies, predictions and of course profound spiritual teaching to measure other claims against.
To be clear, I’d be glad to know if some of these magnificent designs are indeed extraterrestrial in origin. It would confirm my own premise from 20+ years ago that they are a demonstration by such beings of how to use great power and energy with precision, creativity and harmless intent. Even should that be the case, I don’t need convincing that there are more advanced beings in the universe who are capable of such things. But for now, apart from how wonderful they are to see and contemplate, I’m afraid that they aren’t particularly important to me.
So I think that we should be careful about attacking one source of inconclusive, symbolic, cryptic, information or belief system – or their proponents – while unquestioningly promoting another. Let’s simply apply the same standards of objective, scientific evaluation and testing to all of them.
Perhaps the question about the extraterrestrial connection to some crop circles will eventually be answered, to every objective, thinking person’s satisfaction – as I think has certainly been accomplished in the Billy Meier case.
Please also see the new trailer for And Did They Listen?
As written in Goblet of Truth, chapter 2, line 97: The large mass of you does not want to know in any way and does not want to recognise the truth unless you can hold the things of truth in your hands, see them with your eyes and hear them with your ears, but the real truth of the real truth is not that of holding, seeing and hearing, rather it is that of the inner cognition through rationality and intellect as well as the true knowledge and wisdom that are fully free from beliefs.
Beautiful! Thank you. 🙂
Yes, please dear Helen. Come back and write more. We are starving on the banquet of belief going on here.
Solidarity.
I received the following response below from Christian Frehner to an email of mine requesting clarification on the crop circle question. I also just received an email from Dyson telling me that he won’t be reading the blog. It may be because he has some pressing business to take care of now, or maybe he means he’s not interested in reading it at all.
However, here’s Christian’s email:
From: Christian Frehner / FIGU
Subject: Re: An important question
Date: February 5, 2014 2:52:01 PM MST
To: Michael Horn
Hi Michael,
Billy just called me and said that what Dyson is claiming is not true. We have no other information about the crop circles’ origin than what has been published until now, i.e. cosmic influences on terrestrial human beings (inspirations).
Salome,
Christian
Terrestrial human beings from the future/past maybe?
Hi Damian…your comment about future would insight that the dummies are trying to change the past, and the people from the past are dummies too.
I certainly think the Billy Meier case is not only real, but the Plejaren are trying to always tell us the truth; and they are indeed advanced enough with their technology and consciousness to probe into things and find out what is really going on. So in my mind Billy is giving people a huge clue about the origin of crop circles: they are NOT extraterrestrial! With how big a subject this is in ufology, the Plejaren would definitely not take this lightly. Why are people so mystified and perplexed to think that earth humans can’t accomplish these things? And it is completely asinine to think that all these terrestrial crop circle are made by the same earth humans; or even just to say that they are ONLY extraterrestrial for that matter. Of course I don’t know for sure, but I think that you have variety of terrestrial sources. I think that there are groups of artists that make these things with boards and ropes just for fun; and I also think that some crop circles are made with advanced terrestrial secret technology to fool the public. Or rather to promote religion and keep people away for the truth and the Plejaren. The key to solving the whole ET crop circle mystery, in my mind, is that never have any of the crop circles been of any of the Figu symbols. And in my mind these terrestrial crop circles symbols are often religious in nature. Take for instance Barbury Castle http://s262.photobucket.com/user/maryhope8/media/2008%20Barbury%20Castle%20Pattern/UKBarburyCastle1991Lo.jpg.html
In my opinion this crop circle is promoting a trinity instead of the one of Creation. As Meier students are aware, a trinity is religious. Other crop circle may be Creational in their interpretation, but they are not real Universal symbols, like the Figu ones, if you are to take Billy Meier and the Ps seriously. Now that Billy has given us this huge hint, and understanding the basics of the spirit teaching, it is not hard to see that these are all man made from earth.
If any new information comes from the Plejaren and Meier amending what they have said it will be published here as well.
Hi Mike, greetings from Alberta Canada. The proposal that Christian Frehner sent you via email can be verified simply as a mystery of the universe. The case of the crop circles is interesting and it arouses great mystery in those who see them with their eyes, however those who are blind can’t share this same mystery, so what about that, or has anybody out there who is blind have any ideas to this mystery?
And why could not humans be responsible for crop circles? It immediately brought to mind something from the spirit teaching I read quite awhile ago: “Everything that is included within the universe is included within the human.” And also: “The inner dimensions of the human are endless.”
I have never understood why some people obsess about crop circles but here is one little thought: The crop circles often make the crops that are pushed down not harvestable, which means a financial loss for the farmer and damage to his property. This would be in conflict with the “prime directive” of non-interference. If I was a farmer this happened to, I would be pretty pissed. 😉
All considered, this crop circle stuff seems rather silly and unimportant, compared to the spiritual teachings in the Meier material.
I seem to agree because collateral damage to crops counter the regeneration process of creation and its nature, however to the contrary the lower evolved parts of creation, the human beings do resort to such wastes of energies. Still it remains a mystery to me.
Regarding crop damage:
“When a formation was formed in an immature crop, the seeds usually did not develop, or the growth of the seedlings was severely reduced. However, if a formation occurred in a more mature crop, the crap circle seeds seemed to be “energized,” so that they grew at up to five times the normal rate. At this point you should be aware that seed germination and the growth of seedlings are not casual, but well-known and well-documented processes. When humidity, temperature, light, and so on are known, there are well established normal values for seedling length during the germination time. A fivefold deviation from these normal values is extraordinary. Whatever effect is causing this, it should be of great interest to all of us. If we could understand this mechanism, we could improve the seeds, the stock for future generations, increase farm yields, and therefore feed a lot more people from the harvest of our crops.”
Excerpt (with footnotes and some diagrams removed) from pp.18 “THE DEEPENING COMPLEXITY OF CROP CIRCLES – Scientific Research & Urban Legend” by Dutch professor of theoretic nuclear physics, Eltjo H Haselhoff, Ph.D. Copyright 2001 Published by Frog Ltd.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/DCoCC_Excerpts.htm
https://theyflyblog.com/the-little-fish-that-could/01/28/2014
It begs the obvious question: WHY aren’t these inspired people – who are sneaking around, sometimes in broad daylight cunningly disguised as flying balls of light, for centuries, all over the world in their many thousands, with their boards and ropes – getting filthy rich feeding the starving millions (??) … instead of anonymously stomping out multi-layered, gigantic, finely detailed and mathematically uniquely abstruse and genius art works, with an underlying political/ideological message, in the twinkling of an eye, leaving no footprints, but bizarre traces of mathematically precisely distributed, short half-life radioactivity, 99.9-something % pure molten micro-spheres of iron and silica, and inexplicable electromagnetic phenomena, etc.???????
For me it’s like with Billy. It’s simply much easier to imagine that it’s real, than just the biggest, longest-lasting hoax in the history of the world.
Come to think of it, if Billy IS a prankster, he wouldn’t be the biggest and best.
That honour would go to the nameless army of those jolly funsters with their boards and ropes.
Wouldn’t it? Reasonably?
🙂
Cheers!
Ha ha! “crap circle seeds”!
For those who don’t know, that was an OCR error.
It should have been “CROP circle seeds”.
I likes a larf.
🙂
That crap was amusing Dyson. I have been so stressed out the past year and I want to drop the pick axe and sail off into the devil’s triangle.
I wouldn’t want to step into a crap circle!
Darcey, meditation fixes stress.
As far as I can find out, according to Billy and Petale (Genesis) regular and correct meditation constitutes one of two prerequisites for spiritual evolution.
Best.
Good questions.
Hey there mr D,
You say, “It begs the obvious question: WHY aren’t these inspired people – who are sneaking around, sometimes in broad daylight cunningly disguised as flying balls of light, for centuries, all over the world in their many thousands, with their boards and ropes – getting filthy rich feeding the starving millions (??) … instead of anonymously stomping out multi-layered, gigantic, finely detailed and mathematically uniquely abstruse..?”
Because it is fun to drink some English beer off duty and then go out and see if you can bleep with all the UFO heads. They might help feed their brothers during working hours, for all you know.
Why do you say that ancient crop circles accompanied by “…flying balls of light, for centuries…” This is simply NOT true. There is no way to prove this. Only some crop circles have been supplied with videos of balls of light.
Why do you discount, with the Age of Aquarius central sun radiations hitting earth humans, planetary storage banks, fluidal forces, and other “cosmic influences,” that might inspire a terrestrial crop artist to try and go ‘viral’ with their work when it is discovered by the mindless masses that make up ufology? Do you think that the power of the human consciousness, the central sun, planetary banks, fluidal forces, and the like, we learn from Billy, are also bogus?
And you exaggerate or intentionally try to spin the truth if you think ALL crop circles are “…but bizarre traces of mathematically precisely distributed, short half-life radioactivity, 99.9-something % pure molten micro-spheres of iron and silica, and inexplicable electromagnetic phenomena, etc.?” This might be for the secret terrestrial technology circles, that Billy also confirms; but not all circles are that sophisticated. You seem like you have an agenda to abandon logic and reason, Billy’s teaching, and stick to your Area-51 Grey alien story (read: government agent)? Can’t anything other than what you think, even stuff presented by other people here, be closer to the truth about crop circles? Do you consider this at least, to question yourself on various topics as a student of the spirit teaching?
Well, as crop circles go, I saw a documentary sometime back where a roman plate that basically looks like a crop circle appears to have been redrawn centuries later. The one’s Dyson mentioned are the tip of the iceberg so to speak as there is a vast and bewildering array of crop circles.
The big question is, if these balls of lights are operating bio-organic androids, which appear to exist in the universe according to the Meier material, would there be a consideration of them being “extra-terrestrials” if they’re bio-organic rather than a natural developed terrestrial? Not sure if that has been asked to Billy?
Duke my man,
You say, “…would there be a consideration of them being “extra-terrestrials” if they’re bio-organic rather than a natural developed terrestrial? Not sure if that has been asked to Billy?”
Are you serious? Let’s look at in other way. Billy would never call an earth made flying saucer, ET, because extraterrestrials use similar means of transport. Earth humans will have “bio-organic androids someday” in the future. Do we call these earth made droids, ET, because extraterrestrials had them first?
The best!
Anthony, are YOU serious?
You seem to make bad relationships that I cannot exactly follow your incompatible logic with you seem oblivious to the historical record.
Much like you seem to be profoundly missing the obvious world-wide and religions connections to the
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take a breather if you’re not aware of the planet you live on
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UFO subject.
It’s not wonder why Billy says what he says about, you know my man, ALL religions going back to Henok. Do you prefer Mike to type it in his way if you don’t find my words to be compatible to your world view?
Duke,
According to you my contributions to this blog “…make bad relationships…”, fellow participants “cannot exactly follow your (my) incompatible logic”, and “world view.” So I should “take a breather?”
Now that is funny. Even if people can’t stand me, they will read my post because of the controversy and profound language, and raw humor. I would hope that because I am trying to learn and apply the spirit teaching, that I might interact with my fellow human beings here in a good way. If you want to try and trash me personally, instead of discussing the points in my blog contributions, then you sir Duke do not have a clue. And you not that funny at all!
Cheers 🙂
Anthony,
Everybody is allowed to believe what they want and are responsible for their own thinking/reasoning/logic/deductions/etc.
That being said, if you believe that somehow I am keeping track of all your “contributions” on Mike’s blog well I think you need to step back and smell the roses as I don’t get paid to follow you around as you seem to want to suggest.
From what I gather you typed as “am trying to learn and apply the spirit teaching”, you’re welcome by Mike’s blog depending on how he wants to administrate this specific blog and discussions about the truth about crop circles. I haven’t read all of the responses but I have not come across the spiritual implications of crop circles and curious what it is you want to discuss with spiritual teachings in this topic. I’m no expert on crop circles but have not come across that at all at this point.
I’m also curious to know how it is you determined, from your quote, “Billy would never call an earth made flying saucer, ET, because extraterrestrials use similar means of transport”. You know Billy personally?
I’m curious as you state quite clearly and plainly as an example of your contributions as, to quote you directly, “they will read my post because of the controversy and profound language, and raw humor”. So, how should we understand your use of Billy here? You did refer to him directly after all to make a point. Are you trying to stir up controversy, profound language, and raw humor while using Billy at the same time? Why use Billy AT ALL to make a point?
I’m not a mind reader after all.
Thanks and have a Great Day.
Cheers!!
Hey Dukester,
“I’m also curious to know how it is you determined, from your quote, “Billy would never call an earth made flying saucer, ET, because extraterrestrials use similar means of transport”. You know Billy personally?”
NO, I do not know Billy personally; but I know Billy through his writings, Internet, forums, blogs, portals, DVDs, etc. I am by no means perfect, but I think I can say that I know Billy after all my studies.
My friend, and I am trying to be friendly, if I understand your whole android question, you mean that because bio-androids are not created from the “salt of the earth” like humans, animals, plants, that they might qualify to be called extraterrestrial. Please I am only human and may be misunderstanding my neighbor, but the terrestrial or extraterrestrial classification of a run of bio-organic androids would go to the people and home planet of the ones creating them.
NOTE: The approvulator will be taking a lunch break shortly. That means that posts that may be in the queue will be addressed I am have entered burp mode. Thank you.
Anthony,
1) Perhaps ‘bio-organic android’ was a poor choice of words, but I was trying to convey the fact that we’re short here on solid information on the complete extent of the meaning. We’re all here doing our best given the mysterious nature of the present time we live in.
2) Yes, we are all friends of the Meier material here and can review our responses. If you find my suggestions to be unhelpful and insufficient, then perhaps you can put on hold you’re more fanciful comments as it’s not clearly explaining what you are trying to say. I suggest we go forward here and try to continue learning as we go.
3) Definitely understand the spiritual side of the Meier material that leads commonly to here. Let’s focus on more important things and those that pertain to spiritual matters.
Let’s do this, hopefully we worked out the “bugs” with this blog and move past it to see if things go smoother. Let’s put this “misunderstanding” behind us and move forward? My apologies if my answers seem harsh here, but I just want to be sure we’re on the same page.
Regards.
Please note: https://theyflyblog.com/the-little-fish-that-could/01/28/2014
😉
I reread lies and concealment. Billy didn’t tell me that my explanation was wrong. If he had said you are full of crap or something like that… It wasn’t until later on that I found out about the Red Meteor and Apophis. So something huge was coming. But when I look at the simple swirls of Billy’s photographed landing tracks which have no meaning at all except to say hey look I was here. That has more meaning to me than the most intricate crop circle.
A black hole in a galaxy or even a black hole that is wandering in free space can cause collateral damage when they consume other stars. A black hole has radiations that shoot off into space and any star in the way can be touched by these radiations. I propose that a black hole could be a cause of the crop circles.
That is good! Do you have a patent on it? LOL
Hi Michael, if Dyson is no longer looking at this blog, could you please tell him that NO! Eltjo Haselhof is not dead! It was Paul Vigay who died mysteriously. Also please tell them good luck in court, hopefully everything turns out well. We all need to take a step back and offer Dyson some slack because it’s not an easy thing having court looming over your head. There are just so many unknowns…and your life is basically balancing on the whims of the judge. Last year in traffic court, the judge thought I was making eyes at him and called me on it. I was concentrating on what he was saying…in court never make eye movements or raise or lower your eyebrows when concentrating.
If they(?) wanted us to plant the wheat because it’s super wheat – the wheat was Monsanto terminator seed wheat and will not grow again. If you can actually make it grow again, Monsanto will be after you for their cut since they have a patent on it and they want their technology fee. When I first started youtubing I met a nameless person whose father was a cosmonaut and said the little grays come here to forage for fungus. Just thought I would throw that out there. To me the little grays are the people from our other dimension who are 500 years ahead of us. Maybe they are more dark chocolate like the Johnathan Reed video. I know Michael that you think that was a hoax, what was it that made you think that? And now we have elves mixed in who come from another dimension. Now we have green, gray and brown. Could they be the same kind of lifeform? Regardless I don’t think they are able to come here without leaving some sort of evidence. The metallic looking spheres which often appear during a crop circle event (thanks Tony), could those be the spheres from the WCUFO which are capable of going into other dimensions? Or are they drones? Since the sonar sound my friend heard could have been GPR, that makes sense since the field the crop circle was in had a huge reserve of natural gas, over 1 million psi. Would be interesting to know if reserves are found elsewhere, but that little factoid never seems to come up anywhere. I also have to consider that this area has been used as a testing ground for all kinds of shenanigans.
Hi Sheila,
I will forward him the info, yes. Ah yes, court. Two months ago my opponent came over to me in court and smugly informed me, “You don’t have a leg to stand on.” The judge thought otherwise. Another different court thing coming up. If you’re asking me about Jonathan Reed, well, I met him and some of his entourage a few years ago. That and subsequent stuff online led me to conclude the tit was phony.
It’s an awful long drive from ZR to here to…forage for fungus. COuldn’t hey learn to just…let it grow other there?
As for the crop circles, I really don’t know…and I’m comfortable with that.
Thanks. I’m pleased.
As well you should be.
I meant I’m pleased that Haselhoff didn’t get the Billy Meier treatment, only without the Plejaren bodyguards.
Ignorance about things potentially within my grasp tends to make me uncomfortable.
Reminds me of the Dave Allen joke:
“What are we going to do about ignorance and apathy?
I don’t know.
And I don’t care.”
Step back several meters…and get really excited.
Sorry? I don’t understand your joke. Please explain.
Okay, work with me now.
“Ignorance about things potentially within my grasp tends to make me uncomfortable.”
That’s what the “step back” part pertains to. If you…step back several meters – it’s no longer within your grasp.
Next, “What are we going to do about ignorance and apathy?
I don’t know.
And I don’t care.”
…focusing here especially on the apathy part, I suggested that you “get really excited.”
By taking both of my suggestions and implementing them, you antidote that which makes you…”uncomfortable”. I hope that this has been helpful. Office hours are 9 – 5 but, as a courtesy to those who post comments here, I will stay up later and lose some sleep in order to better serve humanity.
I trust your insight into the man and thank you for that. I know, fungus, why not some good healthy food? It’s been over 3 1/2 years since a crop circle appeared 5 miles away. I wanted to know who made it, that’s all. I did my due diligence and factored in everything else that was going on at the time. Maybe some day we will know. Until then and because I’m human, I do like a mystery.
Just an opinion, everyone’s got one. Mysteries abound, just look at the eier case and the way that the WCUFO was revealed by Rhal Zahi 32 years later.
Regarding the Crop Circles
Crabwood Face and Code Crop Circle, August 15th 2002 photo
269th contact of October 4, 1998
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/meier/gaiaguys/Meier.puzzlesolution.htm
Nevertheless, four months later, on the 20th July 2002 Ptaah told Billy, “The time had come to speak openly about everything”, as they had brought their investigations to an end and, since their prior conversation, knowledge had come about with the Earth people which allowed him to speak.
He said that extraterrestrial influences actually hang together with the so-called energy grain circles and energy pictograms. These influences are not as the crop circle believers assume, ie. that the extraterrestrials are the direct originators of the forms. It is actually Earth humans who artfully, and with effort, step and roll and so forth, using suitable equipment of a very primitive form from pre-prepared drafts and markings which are hand-prepared first of all, however for a long time have been manufactured very artfully on the computers and transferred manually into the corn fields, and so forth. The entire thing concerns a pure human making, however extraterrestrial powers are involved. The extraterrestrial powers are not extraterrestrial life-forms of a human or other material form, rather, singly and alone, cosmic energy, the vibrations of which are taken up by sensitive people which creatively advances their fantasies and ideas. This is specifically evolution’s energy as the Plejaren also call it, being the finest energy vibrations that are available in the entire universe and are taken up by any human being and thereby excite their ideas and fantasies to develop.
As I recall Meier telling me. Thanks.
Fideism
Or perhaps reasonable thinking.
Thanks, for your input, Michael, as ever, and the bully pulpit. 🙂
I see a textbook example of fideism.
You suggest, “Or perhaps reasonable thinking.”
No problemo.
We’re adults. We can amicably agree to disagree, my dear elder brother, about what the “perhaps” of reasonable thinking is about this, “It is actually Earth humans who artfully, and with effort, step and roll and so forth, using suitable equipment of a very primitive form”. I don’t think so.
“Perhaps [adverb] – used to express doubt or possibility”
Quote of the Week: “If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things.” – Descartes
“Doubt everything. Find your own light.” – Last words of Gotama Buddha, in Theravada tradition. IMO, he is/isn’t described as a real prophet, according to Billy
“The authority science can claim comes from EVIDENCE, and EXPERIMENT and an attitude of mind that seeks to TEST ITS THEORIES TO DESTRUCTION. Scepticism is really Important. We are often plagued with self-doubt. I always tell my students and post-doctoral workers, ‘Be the worse enemy of your own idea. Always challenge it. Always test it’. – Sir Paul Nurse, the President of the venerable Royal Academy, being Britain’s academy of science.
I’ve tested the boards and ropes theory, and it doesn’t stand up anywhere near as well as a strand of over-boiled spaghetti.
By no stretch of my vivid imagination or deep understanding of the deliberately dumbed-down and corrupted English language, can I define the hard, incontrovertibly physical evidence presented in two peer-reviewed scientific papers from a professor of theoretical nuclear physics and a research professor of biophysics as “a belief system”. But if you choose to believe that it is, that’s your right, Michael. I just can’t seem to get there from here, with my nut-and-bolts scientific/technological background, in spite of my reasonable amateur ability with the art of music.
https://theyflyblog.com/the-little-fish-that-could/01/28/2014
And I follow Billy’s sagacious advice, and I don’t believe a word he says.
” … he [the prophet] is familiar with ruses, tricks and ways unknown to the average mortal. However, such qualities enable him, the rogue and arch-crook in the positive sense of the terms, to twist everything in such a manner that he may be frequently explaining the truth and yet only explain a minute portion of the whole truth, should it be necessary to do so. This could be the case when people are not yet ready to grasp and cope with the all-inclusive truth.” – Billy, Ein Offenes Wort (An Open Word), ©1975/1980/1992
http://www.theyfly.com/articles/gaia/meieriowv7p1,383,v8p69.htm
I’m still trying to make the time to complete my promised explanations on last week’s thread about crop circles, so I’ll try to do that before I try to do much more on this new one. But there’s obviously much more that needs doing.
Please see my October 28th explanation of the concept of religious “doublethink”.
https://theyflyblog.com/credibility-commits-stuicide/10/24/2013
One of the many rude awakenings I had about human psychology, in my role as an Official Disclosure Project Representative, standing on city street corners handing out information leaflets advertising our free public lectures, was that “ET is the easy bit” (Greer). Many of the hundreds of people who engaged me in conversation were absolutely relaxed and comfortable about the (real or imagined) “ET presence”, but would literally go insane at the idea of some sort of cover-up, against all reason. I’d ask (until I learnt better), “But if you accept the reality of extraterrestrial visits, why don’t we read about them on the front pages of all our newspapers and see them in the TV news?”, in response to which I’d usually be shown one of those arms-flailing, eyes-popping-out-of-the-head, smoke-coming-out-of-the-ears, psychical meltdowns, like a goofy robot in a sci-fi comedy – “Does not compute! Does not compute! Does not compute! Does not compute!”, or a Gollum-like, eyes-squeezed-shut, hands-over-ears, “La la la! Not listening! Not Listening!”, and all reason went right out the window. But as soon as the topic was changed back to some second-hand uninformed narrative about lights in the sky, everything quickly returned to relaxed and comfortable again.
And what really blew me away were the armies of traumatised conspiracy theorists who were all too aware – literally – of the foulest machinations of “the secret services and secret government, the Illuminati, the Money Powers, the High Cabal (Churchill’s term), (or Paul Hellyer’s) Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, and the Trilateral Commission, (or Billy’s) Order of Darkness”, and so on and so forth, ad infinitum, ad nauseam. But mention the word, “extraterrestrials” and you’d get the same sort of cartoon psychical meltdown I described above. The UFOs (and everything else was) ALL “them”, and I was a desperately, pathetically ignorant dupe for falling for “their” trick and “believing” in space aliens, which COULDN’T POSSIBLY exist, for more longwinded insanely illogical reasons than you could point a stick at.
I’ve already written a lot on these impossible to swallow topics*, and we’ve translated a lot about the dangers and definitions of beliefs and the insanity which creates and maintains them.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/God-delusion_and_God-delusion_Insanity
As always and naturally, Ptaah puts it way better than I ever could:
Wer die Wahrtheit nicht mit seinem Verstande, sondern mit Glauben erfassen will, der kann die Früchte aus ihr nicht ernten. – OM 53:26.
(He who will not comprehend the truth with his reason, but with his belief, cannot harvest the fruit from it.)
By the way, in real crop circles, when ears of ripe grain have their very dry and brittle stalks harmlessly bent over – typically at 90 degree angles at their mysteriously exploded and temporarily melted nodes, unlike with the hoaxes Billy described, being “Kornkreisfälschungen” (grain circles forgery / counterfeiting / faking / falsifying) where the stalks are simply broken – the food is simply picked up and cut off by the combine harvesters and is not harmed in any way, nor are the modern mechanised farmers even inconvenienced in any way.
“Combines are equipped with removable heads that are designed for particular crops. The standard header, sometimes called a grain platform, is equipped with a reciprocating knife cutter bar, and features a revolving reel with metal or plastic teeth to cause the cut crop to fall into the auger once it is cut.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combine_harvester#Combine_heads
This alien type of “lodging” seems to beneficently take this into consideration, in contrast to reports to the contrary in the corrupt corporate media.
http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/crop1271
Cheers!
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* https://theyflyblog.com/russian-meteor-a-warning-to-prevent-apophis-impact/02/15/2013
(Please see my Feb 21st entry)
This isn”t intended to be my or anyone else’s bully pulpit, really.
The boards and ropes thing is one possibility for at least some crop circles. There are other means, as even Meier and Ptaah have said. I personally don’t “believe” any of them. For the zillionth time, I don’t know.
I do know that while you use selective quotes form Ptaah or Meier to make your points, you seem to dismiss their very clear statements as covering up the truth with yet another veneer of “nudge-nudge we can’t tell the truth just yet” on them. It’s possible that the topic itself isn’t of sufficient interest to Ptaah or Meier – they’ve already said it’s an illogical, indirect way to communicate effectively with us.
It’s possible that they may amend or correct, change their point of view and answer at some point. But their answer, maintained for the past 12 years, seems to be quite specific. Meier told it to me with the same precise, unhesitating clarity. So, while we could see an explanation that’s closer to yours…please stop with the “hidden secret” thing already. Even if each and every one of them is made by little guys from the skies, compared to what Meier has had to remain silent about for some time before revealing (Apollo 11, etc.), crop circles simply don’t measure up in importance enough for him to be “lying” about it. And I think that’s what you’re effectively saying since he’s obviously not just concealing something dismissively. He’s been giving the same answer for a dozen years.
How would his record of truthfulness (as opposed to “I don’t know”) be looking if he’s found to be lying?
Oh! Now I get it! This whole blog thread is just a JOKE! Silly me.
I wrote, “Ignorance about things potentially within my grasp tends to make me uncomfortable.”
You’d know the teachings well enough that the tendency towards discomfort felt about ignorance of things potentially within our grasp can only be exacerbated by distancing one’s self into a fool’s paradise.
For the sake others here who may have also missed the joke, the way Billy teaches is that we MUST strive to reach for those things which elude our grasp in order to evolve our consciousness, and ignorance and apathy is anathema to our reason for living.
When Semjase took Billy on a travel through time, she told him the voyage would last several days, but she didn’t tell him he’d be back later in the same afternoon (with a week’s growth of stubble on his chin). He hit the roof, and shrieked, “But my wife will sing me an entire Greek chorus! I can’t be gone for a week!” to which Semjase laughingly replied, “I was only joking”.
They may be advanced, but their sense of humour is as cruel as ours.
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No, you don’t seem to get it. It’s not the “whole blog thread”, it’s me occasionally playing with your language, or someone else’s perhaps here and there.
Good gosh, man, lighten up. If you can’t navigate and perceive that not everything must be stone-faced serious and that the truth doesn’t die the moment (or moment after) somebody bounces a ball, or a few words, we do be in some trouble. And so far no one (else) has expressed some kind of cognitive dissonance, mental meltdown, or something like that.
So take Billy’s advice and…strive to reach an understanding, or some sense of comfort in accommodating (or ignoring) a few jokes, plays on words, etc., that I am – dare I say confident – will not retard anyone’s evolution of consciousness.
P.S. Yes, of course, perhaps I didn’t get your joke.
You NEVER get any of my jokes, Michael! And we’re only from opposite ends of the Earth!
When they land in the Rose Garden, will we understand each other’s sense of humour?
I doubt it.
I’ve had a lot of people say the Plejaren are “humourless”! Can you imagine?
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.v7p406,7&460,1.htm
🙂
Well at least I’m…consistent. Then again, you are too.
P.P.S. BTW, Billy’s got a pretty good sense of humor (remember his bowl-of-jello laughter in SROT?). In fact, he translated one of my dumb jokes that he liked into German for me. The English version: When that little voice in your head asks, Who am I?”, you should answer, “Who wants to know?”
Yeah. Good one. When I was in Stuttgart and went to a movie, everybody laughed in the wrong places but me.
I being a human being should suggest that these machinations and going on about crop circles contribute to my theory about golden radiations from our own galaxy’s black hole’s impulses to destroy degenerate life forms….the black hole is keeping peace so if one can work very hard to create peace one is doing the right thing and on the contrary avoid the abyss of unright.
I don’t know the outcome but I’m not sure that such is the intention of those radiations. Seems like a kind of anthropomorphic projection.
I have researched the legal process to actually understand that it is best to avoid court because most resolutions can be finalized between the human beings.
Well sure but…why spoil all our fun?
Funny money….because it is very expensive to go to court and the judge can arbitrarily award resistance to the winky eyebrows life.
Well okay…and now back to our topic!
Dunno, Darcy. My personal experience is that sometimes when you avoid court you can’t avoid prison.
Semjase wished that someone on Earth take the task to bring light on the golden radiations of our central sun and that’s what I read in the Meier material so any counter proposals are certainly welcomed with open arms.
Hey Darcy,
Six days ago I emailed this out to Michael, James, Mahesh, Jim, Rhal, Chris, Christian, and three other friends I thought might be interested. (Dreamer that I am.)
Its subject heading was, “These way-preparers will be considered revolutionaries, heretics, and exiles, for they will announce the truths for all to see.”
There was no acknowledgement of receipt or reply/response, which isn’t unusual when I ambitiously try to connect things like astrophysics with the Plejaren take on it.
But YOU might find it interesting in regard to you ideas about crop circle formation, even if nobody else does.
Cheers!
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I think it would be VERY interesting to monitor things like the changes over time in crime rates, sectarian violence, church attendance, etc. in comparison to the predicted immanent (rare) activity from the galactic black hole.
http://www.swift-sgra.com/
“BLACK HOLE’S ‘BIG MEAL’ COULD SPARK FIREWORKS”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25678737
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/11094.html#POST48035
186.The origin of this epochal change is in the radiation effect of the huge central sun around which your system circles once in 25,860 years and passes through 12 epochs within the meaning of your astrologer’s Zodiacs.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_009
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