You know you’re not about to joust with a journalistic giant when your invitation to discuss the Billy Meier case is met with such cartoonish comments as, “I eat scam artists like you for breakfast.” But you can safely predict that this blustering cereal killer’s gonna have a bad case of indigestion before lunch.
There’s no shortage of flaming blowhards online so it’s also no surprise to encounter yet another glorified gossip columnist who lives to defame good people who, by virtue of their accomplishments and character, tower high above him. Case in point, one rude dude, a rube called Dube. There’s so little available information on Ryan Dube that one has to guess if he’s the dishwasher, the IT guy, the domestic abuser, etc. Whoever he really is, he apparently seeks to gain significance through being a “top secret writer”, a manufactured tough guy persona whose actual spineless, nasty attacks are anything but the mark of a rugged, manly male, the kind who is willing to risk a lot to reveal the truth.
In fact, the pretensions of this hack conspiracy writer are comical in comparison to the real life adventures of Billy Meier. Meier not only broke the story about the NSA scandal before Snowden – and dare I mention before Dube knew anything about it – but was known as the Phantom in the Middle East and apprehended serial killers and mass murderers, living the kind of life that wannabes like Dube only hesitatingly dream of..and then go and get a change of underwear.
So when I get a challenge to “answer” allegations in three so-called articles, from a guy who’s all about “top secret” and spends his time attacking the biggest secret of them all, one that is safely hidden in plain sight, of course I accept. Two of the articles were from Dube and one from another identity deficient entity calling itself Seamus Coogan. His article starts out with “When I got this assignment…” a statement intended to give the impression that we’re about to read something substantial from a respectable, credible writer or reporter. Instead we get the equivalent of a grammar school student’s paper that would have been quickly returned with a failing grade.
The sum and substance of all this slop is an attempted hatchet job on the Billy Meier case, his UFO photographs, prophecies and predictions. As I experienced in my brief email exchange with Dube, he’s neither capable of citing, nor responding to, specifics other than to regurgitate the already long demolished claims of various other skeptics, poseurs and celebrity seekers who would love to carve a notch in their online gun belts at the expense of Meier. It just never turns out the quite way they imagined though.
As far as the attacks on Meier’s UFO evidence, we get gems like this from Coogan:
“Furthermore, the Meier UFO’s have dated considerably in appearance in comparison to what filmmakers now consider alien type craft.”
In other words, this empty-headed scribbler thinks that filmmakers are the “experts” for what constitutes so-called alien type craft! Coogan also raised questions about forced perspective imagery, UFO forgery, the “rubbish bin cover, and the “Dean Martin singer/dancers” which, as one can see, have long been answered and dismissed. And Shameless Seamus, effete coward that he is, also stated, “The endorsement from a crazy ex-government employee gave Meier a lot of credibility and support.”
Typical of such sniveling bottom feeders, he attacks someone he never knew, whose work he can’t refer to or criticize specifically. Instead he refers to the opinions of other people. In fact the only “footnotes” provided are from skeptics or other third parties and none from his own research or experience. Big surprise there. And anyone who endorses Derek Bartholomaus’ thoroughly incompetent, bumbling “research” – which he himself retracted and that has been further demolished by all of Rhal Zahi’s analyses – is an even bigger bumbler than Bartholomaus.
The attacks on Meier, especially by Dube, are replete with claims about him being the leader of a “cult”. Characteristic of course of wimps and ethical weaklings like Dube, he produces not one specific piece of evidence for his claim. Here we have an online, armchair expert who’s never taken his sprawling posterior to investigate the matter for himself. Heck, by his own admission he’s never even read any of the actual onsite investigative reports by Wendelle Stevens or Gary Kinder. Dube is also quick to pile on the late Lt. Colonel Wendelle Stevens for being incarcerated. But he’s strangely dismissive of the information that Stevens was set up and punished for his unrelenting investigation into the Meier case.
What happened to our “conspiracy investigator”, why does he unquestioningly accept the government’s version of the truth? Why didn’t he try to contact Lee and Brit Elders, the private investigators who knew and worked with Stevens for over 20 years? Isn’t that the least that one could do before contributing to the attacks on a man who was officially tasked – by his government – to investigate UFOs starting back in…1947?
Dube freely hurls the terms “cult” and “cult leader” around, trying to smear Meier and anyone interested or associated with him, with no evidence to support a word of it. Should we be asking Dube if he stopped beating his wife, if in fact he’s that Ryan Dube? Certainly such an “insider” as Dube would understand that character assassination is one of the more obvious tools when, in Meier’s case, actual assassination attempts failed to take down their target.
And, being a faithful tool, Dube shows himself to be far removed from decency, good character, common sense and clear thinking. Of course any buffoon who bolsters his flimsy ego with a site titled “topsecretwriters” and who is so painfully unaware of the real methods – and not so secret ones at that – of the intelligence agencies, etc., is obviously hungering to be accepted for something far more substantial than the fawning, posturing little bully-boy that he is.
Dube has made a big deal – and staked his (pardon the expression) reputation – on declaring that Meier’s prophetic and predictive information is all bogus, retrodicted, backdated, etc. Dube tries to get specific regarding the Pacific Tsunami Prophecy. As you can see he clearly states that, “Unfortunately for Horn, it’s very difficult for a non-technical person to fake publication dates. Even his own website has the publication date for this claim as 2008. Every Pro-Meier website out there also lists a publication date of this claim on or after 2008, when Horn began distributing the claim.”
Now let me be very clear. Mr. Dube is not only an incompetent, rivaling the likes of Derek Bartholomaus, he’s a stone cold…liar.
As can be seen here, the actual date of the information as conveyed to Billy Meier by Ptaah was indeed June 25, 2005.
Next, Dube relies on the very ethically and factually challenged Stuart Robbins to try to discredit Meier’s information regarding asteroid Apophis, aka the Red Meteor. You can read Dube’s and Robbins’ comments. And then you may want to read these, especially the last one:
Apophis: Are the Russians Reading Meier’s Warnings?
First the Russians, now the Chinese…When Will NASA Get It?
Suddenly Phil Plait Echoes Billy Meier
NASA Corrects Apophis Information, Size Is almost exactly what Billy Meier Foretold
Obviously, our poor excuse for a “researcher” will have to claim that it’s all a coincidence, etc., etc.
Since we’ve now established that Dube is not only a phony but a liar, let’s look at his next claim attacking about the Jupiter information Meier published before NASA. Dube deliberately and of course incorrectly claims that Meier had plagiarized and backdated information and he specifically attacked Meier’s report that Io once had water. Unfortunately for this dilatant pseudo-researcher, the information at and linked from this page thoroughly debunks the IIG report…and Dube’s dubious, scurrilous attempts to again discredit Meier.
As for the four heads of state, that was my incorrect conclusion, not Meier’s. We don’t know if that prophecy will occur or not. As for the power plant in France, there indeed were issues with its safety. Things like the pterodactyl painting come under the heading of manipulations to discredit Meier. As previously stated, if you can’t kill the man you attempt to assassinate his character, something that wimps like Dube just love to do.
Pertaining to riots in France and Paris ultimately being destroyed, Dube lied when he said I removed my newsletter. It’s here. Read it for yourself, see and draw your own conclusions.
Dube concludes his “series” by stating that, “The fact that he also deleted that page from his website speaks volumes as well.” But since that page has never been taken down, the volumes that are spoken here leak from the filthy mouth of an essentially anonymous defamer who uses other people’s incompetent, incorrect, unsubstantiated, long refuted and debunked bunk as ammunition to spew his verbal fecal matter freely at people who are clearly much better, more honest and more accomplished than he. And with no excuse for immodesty, I include myself among them.
It’s well known that there are over 100 credible witnesses to the craft. I have been within 20’ of a small monitoring craft myself. There are five other photographers, including a Swiss skeptic. But who will vouch for lowlifes like Coogan and Dube? Where are their resumes, biographies, accomplishments, etc.?
As for Meier’s specific, prophetic accurate, scientific and world event related information, there’s tons of it:
Corroboration & Evidence (over 100 examples)
as the time fulfills (55 specific examples, spanning 22 minutes)
Prophecies & Predictions (plenty to go through spanning 63 years)
Atomic Energy: Human Insanity Knows No Limits (Fukushima and Meier’s verifiably prophetically accurate information, given to him within days of the event by the Plejaren)
5,100 Year-Old Iceman Proves Meier UFO Contact Case True! (Another impenetrable, irrefutable proof of information from the Plejaren)
A Sampling of Billy Meier’s Prophetically Accurate Published Evidence (Meier’s ironclad evidence that he published about Mercury’s core long before NASA’s “official discovery”)
…and volumes more at my blog.
The internet is filled with parasites and defamers like Ryan Dube, Seamus Coogan and their sorry ilk. That they try to call themselves researchers or investigators is sadly also all too common. You’ll never see these fools get up in a live public forum and try to take on something like the Meier case. They won’t engage in a legitimate debate because they know they are incompetent and completely unqualified to do so.
Weasels like these scurry about in the shadows of truly great, historically significant people and resent those who are far greater than they are, loathing themselves for their own insignificance. They need to try to make themselves out to be something far, far more important than they can ever hope to be. These are the kind of parasites that pump their putrid poisons out online thinking they’re immune from accountability. But life has its own way of returning unto them the real spoiled fruits of their nefarious labors.
Certainly I can be criticized for dignifying them at all by taking the time to do a quick, general debunking of these losers.
Dube promised to post my response to his, er, “challenge” to me. Of course not doing so will “speak volumes” about him and his already established, absolute lack of character, credibility, integrity and ethics.
wow michael .. u ‘wasted’ a lot of pixels on that clown, and I do mean clown .. I had come across him before & it didn’t take a NY City minute to determine he was not only unworthy of a second of my time but he also was even a 2nd hand clown to 1st hand clowns, like those you’ve mentioned above
Guilty as charged.
The meier case is absolutely irrefutable. It baffles me how and why people continually attack this case. Excellent rebutal using just the facts. Well done Michael.
doh! 😉
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_GERMANY_VATICAN_COCAINE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
HI Michael,
Looks like this dude lives up to his name. The Urban dictionary gives this translation of dude rube:
Urban Dictionary: dude rube
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?…dude%20rube
Urban Dictionary
dude rube. 1. To stump an opponent in a bout of verbal tongue bashing. 2. To total out wit your peer to the point were they desire to take their own life to escape …
I think he’s no match for your gifted tongue, anyway sometimes it’s better to ignore these assaults than give them more life by replying to them. Actually, I took delight in reading your reply as you’re a gifted writer and he’s clearly no match for your eloquence. Still not convinced on Meier, but a great admirer of your passion and devotion to the cause.
with best regards,
Ron Watson
President, American Press Association
Thanks Ron, I wasn’t aware of the definition. BTW, tell us what you think would make Meier more “convincing” in your estimation, that would be interesting. As a photographer, have you considered the 35mm film photos from 1981 here:
https://theyflyblog.com/wcufo/03/04/2014 (especially the details shown in the enlargement)
https://theyflyblog.com/can-yousee-what-youre-looking-at-part-2/12/14/2013 (especially the road beneath the craft revealed when using PhotoShop)
To be a cult leader you must have cult followers. A cult follower would simply take a statement at face value and run with it. Most people who follow this blog, I would guess, believe the Meier case is real. But unlike cult followers, prior to coming to this conclusion, we took the statements made by Meiers, studied,dissected and researched to the asteroid field of Malona and back for authenticity. Anyone who doubts this need only read this blog. We’re like an extended family at a Thanksgiving dinner, point, counter point and counter counter point…. talk about free thinkers. To bad the rest of the world wasn’t more like us. Keep up the good work MH, maybe someday I will be able to do your ab workout.
An extended family, well put. Don’t worry about the ab workout, it’s all done with mirrors.
Michael, I appreciate your passion and your extensive knowledge about BEAM and all the other aspects of this case. I want to publicly express my sincere gratitude and thankfulness for all that you’ve done and continue to do. It is because of you and your appearance on Coast to Coast am approximately two years ago that I discovered the Billy Meier case. Any human being gifted with reason and using their own logic with their own thoughts and feelings while investigating the extensive evidence will come to the conclusion of the validity of this case. However a human being filled with prejudice and fright such as Rube Dube will never recognize the truth. Unfortunately his unbridled egoism and putrid drooling for fame will offer him no room for consciousness advancement. Though there is a chance someone will read the rubbish he writes investigate it themselves and turn towards the truth. All human beings, even the most dishonest among us as Rube Dube is, have something to offer. And if only one human being discovers and turns to the truth because of and despite of his lies then I will thank him. Thanks again Michael and keep up the excellent and informative work.
In all Love, Truth, and Wisdom, Scott Reed.
It’s extremely gratifying to know that the radio shows have helped to inform people like you about the Meier material. Certainly in time even dubious Dube will catch on, in one incarnation or another.
Did any so called debunkers go to SSSC and see for themselves?
I went to SSSC with Michael in 2013 and looked into the eyes of Billy for an hour assisting in making a documentary.
To me, Billy is an ordinary human being, he is healthy, sane, decent, pouring out answers like a huge database.
During my stay, I once saw Billy came into the kitchen, walked across and went out through another door, no one stood up, no one said anything, life as usual.
Billy a cult leader? See for yourselves before qualifying in making any conclusion.
On the pterodactyl photo I found 10 discrepancies between the two photos but wouldn’t you know Philly boy wouldn’t post my comment.
Of course and of course he won’t post it. As a matter of fact, despite his saying the following on March 19:
“We’ve already had the debate. Answer the issues in the Meier articles on TopSecretWriters.com. So long as you don’t just try to spam your website link or use some fake identity, your answers will be published publicly where I and other readers can respond.
All you’re doing in here is wasting time.”
So, while engaging with bottom feeders like this is something that compels one to take a long, hot soapy shower, showing that they are not only frauds but cowardly liars is worth putting into the public record.
Although I agree with you Michael, I just have to clarify that my non posting post was on Phil Langdon’s youtube channel a few years ago. Once he realized I was a Meier supporter, he quit posting anything I wrote. That’s how they are able to “win” the debate, but not posting any opposing comments. Quite disingenuous.
I guess you have an…all-purpose comment there. I think that Langdon has had a bit of a mental meltdown too. He can’t address Zahi’s work; I don’t think he’s even read it. All of the deniers who’ve been particularly vicious and nasty are beginning to reap the effects of their self-inflicted venom. They didn’t realize that attacking the truth was to attack themselves.
I still am puzzled why people who claim to actually be interested in the subject of UFOs, extraterrestrials, etc., are often so angry, vile and vindictive when the only real case out there is presented to them. I can understand the skeptics but far less better the “UFO enthusiasts” who just behave so badly.
Since I’ve only been a UFO enthusiast since 2009, I can only speculate. I would think the biggest reason is that everything they’ve been spewing publicly for years is not true and if that became public knowledge, they would become a laughingstock. They only care about how good they look and their ego.
I just posted on rubey cubes site under the Fukushima thread – that those who have been following the Meier material knew about the extent of the disaster a week after the event. With a big Gotcha after LOL. See if he posts that.
Hi Michael,
You said:
“As I experienced in my brief email exchange with Dube, he’s neither capable of citing, nor responding to, specifics other than to regurgitate the already long demolished claims of various other skeptics, poseurs and celebrity seekers who would love to carve a notch in their online gun belts at the expense of Meier.”
REGURGITATE, that’s what ignorant, brainwashed, mislead people do concerning all truth, including the correct astrology that I practice. Never do they do the investigative work to prove it to themselves. Instead, they repeat like parrots, what some incorrect, religious, pseudo-scientific, patriotic, ignorant of the truth, idiot has said, and this causes them to act like idiots, or at least to be incorrect. It’s the blind leading the blind. The ignorant, leading the ignorant. And it happens in all fields of truth and knowledge.
We are living in a very interesting time of history, where truth is slowly replacing the untruths and lies in our world. But, right now, it looks like the HP (Henoch Prophecies) will take place, and have a great effect on this process. I don’t believe that if the HP take place, that all of Humanity will perish, perhaps 95%-99% will. I’m sure the survivors around the world will be ready for the truth after the HP. They will have learned their lessons the hard way. And I would expect an ET group to come and assist in the worldwide re-building process. A society would be built based on truth.
Things could change, there’s a 1% chance the HP will not happen, in my opinion, we’ll see. But there certainly isn’t much time left. The earthquakes are increasing in numbers and intensity, and Russia is attacking her neighbors, which would lead to WW3 – both signs of the HP coming upon the Earth.
Interestingly, here is an answer from Meier that he just gave in respoinse to a question about a coming World War:
“At the moment another WW is not in the foreground. Of course
everything depends on the actions of people, but it can be expected
that the persons in the specific/leading positions will be careful not
to start another WW. “
I agree, WW3 is not in the foreground at the moment, but it certainly is in the background. We’ll see what happens, if a war starts in Ukraine, or between Israel/USA and Iran, we could see a very quick escalation into a world war.
Jesus H. Christ. You bemoan people for not unquestionably believing yet…give us every reason to be completely skeptical of you. Case in point:
“it looks like the HP (Henoch Prophecies) will take place…there’s a 1% chance the HP will not happen…”
That sounds like foreground, not the background. In response to Michael’s relayed information, why not just say “Wow, great, well that’s some good news, I hope Meier is right.”
Instead you continue to show absolutely no integrity, and destroy your credibility even further by pretending that your position was consistent with the opinion of super-intelligent, super-informed, Meier…when your position CLEARLY was not the same as his. Just as you do with astrology.
It’s okay to change positions. It’s okay to disagree. But for christs sakes be honest, sincere, genuine. I feel like your whole presence here is a (failed) attempt to demonstrate you have superior intellect and knowledge than all of us.
If you disagree with Meier in places, thats fine. I do too. But PLEASE PLEASE do not twist Meier’s words – as you do in regards with astrology – so as to pretend your positions are one and the same. It’s bad for the casual, less-than-fully-informed reader, and its bad for you, furthering the perception that astrologers are sneaky snakey slimey charlatans.
And if you continue to belittle and insult people, like me, for being skeptical of terrestrial astrology, just let it be known that I am in good company–Eduard Albert Meier, for one.
Sorry to jump on board again but this is eerily becoming all about Tony V again.
Can we respectfully have a Vote to see who wants to here Tony’s Predictions about Mylie Cyrus and here about his troubles with skeptics?
You are 100% incorrect again. And for the new reader – I do not practice “terrestrial astrology”. I have stated that many times. Check the astrology thread for my explanation of the matter. I’m beginning to think that you are either mentally ill, or mentally retarded. Everything you say is incorrect and illogical. I could use some strong words to describe you, but this is Michael’s blog, and he has asked for a mild interaction. I suggest that you keep your nonsense to yourself.
Tony,
Fine. I figured since you lived on Earth…
But I get it. Your unique brand of astrology is far superior than all others on this planet, and thus cannot be lumped in with the rest. But none of your comments on the astrology thread prove your astrology is superior – just different. You must see that. That is, you haven’t given us anything that would warrant us to take anything but a skeptical position; quite the opposite – like failed predictions. And, whereas you quote Meier and the Plejaran where they refer to the impressive astrology on Erra, and in doing so try to suggest your brand is one and the same as theirs, or nearly the same…yet from the scant information we have about Plejaran astrology, eg that the chart is calculated by the moment the crown of the head comes out, you do yours differently (that is, wrong–unless you claim you do astrology better than the Plejaran?)
In any case, with your 2014 predictions, we will see in the coming months if you deserve the high respect you so desperately want.
Yes, I know, you can save it – somehow, everything I said was incorrect and I am completely idiot for not singing your praises from on high.
Doirecity,
You’re right man. I’ll try not to fan the flame anymore. The clown is a distraction from Michael’s good work here.
You’re right. You’re 100% incorrect AGAIN. And you’re right again, you ARE a complete idiot, not because you won’t sing my praises, you just are. Keep your promise, keep your nonsense to yourself.
Savio,
I would love to meet Billy and visit SSSC some day like you and others have. I think it would be an excellent experience to remember! I hope Billy is still around in a few years time when I’m able to go there.
btw, did Billy tell you anything about yourself when you met him? I heard he used to do this but then stopped doing it.
I certainly understand how much people would like to meet Billy and the Plejaren too. But I think that considering how few people will even be able to meet Billy, we can really “meet” them best through all of the information and teaching that they’ve provided.
Well the last time I was there I’d let my hair grow out long (for me) and he said I looked like a mad scientist.
Hi Micheal,
Is this the hair you had in your latest film “And Did They Listen”? 🙂
It be funny to hear Billy call you a mad scientist! It’s good to see he has a good sense of humor, such as in the Contact Notes with the Plejaren.
It was longer than that…and it’s back to being much shorter now. I may grow it back once I decide on what new scientific invention I am about to create.
The gull of our fellow brothers and sisters!!! Skimming through this ‘top secret writers’ once again proved how much work was put into their ‘researchers writings’ about Billy and others.
Any which way Billy’s case is far from secret! At least it should be. Though I know that a lot of people have been exposed to it(Because of Michael and others) yet, internally burn themselves with its utter differing TRUE reality. Where is this evidence that states what Billy and Michael are stating is so horrible and earth shattering wrong? What within this reality is so scary and creates such outlandish claims and thoughts? When the evidence is examined, thought about, slept on for years, mulled over, analyzed, cross referenced, seen within the world one lives, what is left to ‘freak out’ about?
Though I know the answer:)
These clowns have soiled the entire meaning of it all and only focused on the easy and wrong earth ways out. Turning around and using exactly what they are as evidence. Once again only helping prove how ignorant and lazy they are and right Billy and Michael have always BASICALLY been… ones again!
By the looks of their comment sections… they aren’t much for comments/criticism. Though they are just fragile earth children in need of ‘getting it all right’. How wrong they are! At least as far as I see it:)
Is always amazing how individual we really are and how so few people care to see. Always hitching a ride on others to gain the individuality that resides within the self. We all need to use others momentum and insight ones and awhile. As well as a good ‘wake up call’ as well!
We really have become weak, spineless, know it all’s on this planet. The internet has released the reality of our human world onto itself. The ambiguity of peoples internet ‘lives’ has shown how far our mental state is slipping and in need of realization. Even listening to people talk about a subject like Fukushima(Enenews site), They ALL hide! all their names are hidden; Aftershock, ontological, obewanspeaks, Sol Man, etc, etc. Where is Bob Lesterfoot, Carl Higgins, Cindy Crawford, and Yohaan Middleton? Where are these humans fighting to change the reality of our world? Does being anonymous really make that much of a difference? Does not saying that which the person that one is not resonate within the self? Isn’t it what makes us who we are as individuals here on the net… It is a lesson in self realization to become the person that one is, anywhere they are! It isn’t an easy think to realize as obvious as it is. Go figure.
I suppose I have nothing left to loose… there is nothing that can hold the person of Philip Brandel back any longer. Only I with myself is capable of doing that which holds me back. The person I have become here and now, will be tomorrow, and everyday after.
I know this is off-topic a bit, MH, but do you know of any information from Billy or the Plejaren about the missing Malaysian flight? Like I said, off topic…
Best Regards,
Lotus
I don’t think we’ll hear anything from Billy about this until after the facts are known already. Unless of course there’s something extremely significant on a much broader scale, such as the info on TWA flight 800 that they authorized Billy to publish years ago.
This is just the stuff of which earthly dramas are made and, again, unless there’s a much broader importance, I don’t think they’ll say anything.
This is something I’m also curious about. Having read the “official” bullshit story and the contact report about TWA flight 800, it does certainly raise a few questions about what’s going on with this Malaysian flight. Knowing what the NSA is capable of getting into computers, they must be able to easily make it look like terrorism or whatever they want. I just find it a bit odd that their PM came out with an official story of a crash before even having officially found any evidence. Sounds like pressure from above rather than pressure from below if you catch my meaning.
Damn, Rube Dude just pulled a Phil Langdon and blocked my comments. They don’t like being questioned about anything and will outright lie so as not to make themselves look so stupid. Too late, they’ve already proven what a useless bunch of tools they really are. They thought I was you Michael LOL. Which proves that they are incapable of investigating ANYTHING.
Ryan Dube said:
Nope – NASA beat Meier by 3 years. Sorry. The finding in 2005 was “350 meters”, which is precisely what Meier “predicted” in 2008. Now you’re trying to say the updated finding in 2013 “proves” Meier…which is completely absurd. Meier didn’t predict anything, he simply reported what was already published about Apophis at the time (3 years prior actually). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9…
“Based upon the observed brightness, Apophis’s diameter was initially estimated at 450 metres (1,480 ft); a more refined estimate based on spectroscopic observations at NASA’s Infrared Telescope Facility in Hawaii by Binzel, Rivkin, Bus, and Tokunaga (2005) is 350 metres (1,150 ft).”
I would like to thank you for providing us with another excellent example of Meier’s technique of retrodiction.
I said:
Wikipedia can be changed or updated at any time and everyone knows that. How disingenuous.
Ryan Dube said:
Yes, but actual NASA history and records confirm it. Meier was wrong. Case closed.
I said (they wouldn’t post this):
I was just on the NASA site a year ago when they had upgraded it to 325 metres. Wikipedia doesn’t have copyright dates LOL.
Apparently Rubey thinks the burden of proof should be greater for Billy Meier than for NASA. Which proves how smart he thinks he is.
They wouldn’t post this either because they would actually have to question themselves and their high regard for 3 letter entities: Dumb dumb, it took the CIA 11 years to prove that Meier was a hoax. Ask yourself if they are stupid or if they are lying? I don’t believe they are stupid so why did it take 11 years to figure out something that could have been figured out in 2 years maximum? The case is not closed, but your mind is.
He is a coward and a disinformationist. Considering just how much info and evidence I directly referred him to, it’s obvious that he’s inept, frozen and immobilized.
I should also add irrelevant.
All very true. Doesn’t seem to be very many posts on there from you. Did you get banned from the site too?
If you mean me, they certainly don’t want to hear from me. First requirement, they have to post my rebuttal that they promised to. Not holding my breath.
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this Rube Dube? <Loved it!