I think it’s safe to say that the “official discovery” of other intelligent life in the universe would be the single most important event in human history. If and when we “officially” make contact with those beings would certainly equal, and perhaps exceed, that primary event in significance.
But such discoveries could also pose huge problems for our world, especially for those rather primitive elements like our religions and belief systems. Additionally, worldwide recognition of such realities would also be the cause of colossal concern for the traditional power structures such as governments, economic, military and political establishments. After all, the reality that far more advanced and powerful beings exist that can freely operate outside of any terrestrial constraints would be viewed as dangerously destabilizing to all power and control structures. Such fears are completely understandable, if not actually fully warranted. Certainly to be approached by an outside race that would logically also have some pretty tremendous weaponry and technological power, etc., would arise primal fear in many people. Of course such fear would be all the more understandable in light of how we human beings of Earth would quickly assume that the approaching visitors were similarly motivated, i.e. were at least as irrationally violent, barbaric, bloodthirsty, brutal and aggressive as we are.
The Disinformation Agenda
Officially, there are no other intelligent life forms in the universe, friendly or otherwise. However, unofficially at least some of our governments have known about the existence of extraterrestrials since…1915. There have been various events since that time, even before the crash and recovery of androids at Roswell, about which Billy Meier and the Plejaren know infinitely more than any so-called “UFO experts”.
As part of the disinformation programs by the US and other governments, various groups were/are either formed, or assisted, by the respective intelligence agencies, as were/are certain individuals used to further the disinformation agenda. The parties themselves may be unaware of any existing covert connections and of course some groups and individuals may arise without any such assistance, solely through their own enthusiasm and, quite often, extreme delusions. Characterizing virtually all of the aforementioned groups and individuals is a delightfully blithe disregard for serious science and logical thinking, etc.
This isn’t to say that all sorts of bluster and lip service aren’t given to describing their concerns, theories and “investigations” into the UFO phenomenon. But since their so-called scientific standards are so abysmally low, and they have zero actual evidence of anything verifiably of extraterrestrial manufacture, resorting to pseudoscientific smoke and mirrors, dog and pony show “disclosure hearings”, “field investigators, etc.”, are substituted. All of this helps to marginalize the whole topic and, still, for the most part relegate it to, and regard it as worthy of, tabloid and fringe discussions. And it makes a bunch of people feel important.
Helping to keep things as stagnant as possible organizations such as the stupidly name Exopolitics group feature prominently, with a surprising number of international affiliates comprised of people who may have been convinced that they’re doing something of historical importance by babbling about concocted nonsense regarding non-existing “aliens”. Exopolitics, therefore, has functioned as a prominent, attention grabbing disinformation entity, which like MUFON, has as a large part of its purpose distracting the public away from the contacts between Billy Meier and the Plejaren extraterrestrial human beings, ongoing for more than 72 years.
The Exopolitics group has so far, with the backing of people like Canadian philanthropist Tom Clearwater, managed to keep perpetuating the disinformation about the imaginary “alien” this and that. In fact the rumor is that Clearwater is the person who supposedly put up the $600,000 for the Washington hearings fiasco, wherein six US congressmen were reportedly paid (something like $20,000 each) to attend, give lip service to, and carry on for a while about all the completely unsubstantiated “alien presence”. Of course no mention at all was made of the Meier case at the dog and pony show. And in my brief online contact with Clearwater he made it clear he didn’t have the slightest interest in knowing anything about Meier. Why would a very wealthy and seemingly intelligent person put up almost two-thirds of a million dollars to support a third rate hack like Bassett, who’s known for saying absolutely nothing of substance and even getting quite hysterical while doing it? (Doncha love my linking to a site that also attacks me?)
So, is Clearwater a well intentioned but extremely gullible, New Agey, UFO aficionado who wants to make a name for himself in UFOlogy…and is willing to shell out big bucks to do it? He’s also been associated in some way with Stephen Greer, who seems to actually have discovered perpetual motion and free energy, i.e. he’s perpetually hustling money from people to free himself from such trifling matters as substantiating all of his various claims, about free energy, “alien contact”, etc.
A Break in the Ranks
One member of Exopolitics, Mark Snider, has now quietly and unceremoniously broken ranks with Exopolitics, declaring:
“After reading many Exopolitics books and much UFO literature I am a little disappointed. Compared to the wealth of information in the Meier material these other texts just don’t have nearly as much to offer. There is a tremendous amount of useful data in the Meier writings and I want to concentrate my efforts in this area.”
Mark’s efforts are now focused primarily on disseminating information about the Meier case on his radio show. I couldn’t be happier of course because I’ve long been an advocate of bringing the entire, abysmal Exopolitics charade to an end and perhaps now more of the wide-eyed, misinformed and misdirected members will awaken to…reality.
The Main Shills
As I stated in this recent interview, to be clear, I am definitely calling Exopolitics, MUFON, OpenMinds, the Disclosure Project and people like Bassett, Greer and Michael Salla, etc., peddlers of gross, cynical disinformation. They are free to challenge me any time they want to but…I won’t hold my breath.
Going back to the beginning of the article, I mentioned that actual proof of extraterrestrial life, let alone its making contact with us on Earth, would be the most important and potentially disruptive events in all of human history. This is at the core of all disinformation and one of the most obvious tactics with disinformation is to surround the truth with lies. In terms of the various UFO organizations, the objective is to thoroughly drown and smother the truth; to so confuse, cover, cloud, obfuscate and corrupt it that those people who actually do want to know the truth will also most likely find, or be found, by these groups and get caught up in their dead-end, chase your own tail charades.
What the UFO Cover-up Is really all About
MUFON, Exopolitics, the Disclosure Project, etc., all do the same meaningless, cynical never-can-find-the-evidence dance, just as SETI and Seth Shostak do for the mainstream, so-called scientific community, media, etc. And all of this is effectively maintained to conceal and cover up the truth that actual contact with an extraterrestrial human race has not only occurred but has been ongoing for over 72 years. The Billy Meier UFO contact case is what the UFO cover-up is really all about. And, as one can discover for themselves, the irony is that it isn’t so much the so-called government that is the only, or main, suppressor and opponent of the truth but rather the UFO community/industry, which hides its cynical machinations and agenda in plain sight. It does so more and more by providing lots of…entertainment and illusions, relying on the ever-deteriorating consciousness and discernment that Billy Meier himself had foretold (number 127) in 1958.
In truth, the Meier case isn’t so much about UFOs and extraterrestrials. It’s about helping us to assure our own future survival. Its abundant information, spiritual teaching, prophetically accurate prophecies and predictions, etc., contain the means to accomplishing this. And it is exactly this real, selfless gift to humanity that these enemies of the truth – and humanity itself – seek to conceal from us at all costs…and we’re soon to realize just how high those costs really are.
Michael the paradigm shift is too much for most people to even take a look at the information… Here we have documented contact with a civilization who can exist without money and it sounds like they work together for a common cause and they make great progress in science and spiritual evolution. This is way too utopian for Earth people… Millions of us believe in BELIEF and we have no value for knowledge and truth.
True and…depressing!
it is! Nice to see Mark mentioned in this latest blog post.
Yes indeed. I recently came across Mark. What a nice man and great to see another smart, level headed indivual speak up about the truth.
I agree that Mark is a nice person. I have listened to many of his shows, since the interview with Michael several months ago. But unfortunately he is also still pretty gullible when it comes to new age nonsense and he doesn’t ask for proof and accepts too much and calls it “interesting”. He has a long way to go and reminds me a little bit of myself, before I started to study the Meier material about seven years ago. There was a time for example, when I believed everything David Icke wrote and said, including the shape-shifting reptilian nonsense. I hope he and his listeners get away from this dangerous garbage as well.
I think the people that believe in that “shape-shifting reptilian nonsense” have to be some of the most stupid gullible people there is on this planet, no offense. When I first heard people talking about that nonsense I just shook my head. Now I took a very lost part through UFO disinformation before coming across the Meier case, but listening to someone talking about “shape-shifting reptilians” and “aliens are demons from hell” just let me know how crazy people are. And those are the types of videos that get 1 million+ views on youtube.
As with everything there is some truth to be found. Gilgamesh is shape shifting after all.
Yes, you are correct. But the thing that attracts many people to charlatans und schizophrenics like David Icke is the fact, that they pretty cleverly mix truths with half-truths and made up BS. For example Icke also wrote and spoke about the “chipping” of people, the EU dictatorship, the war crimes of the US, the spying etc. This stuff is in the Meier material as well. He then sneaks in the other BS step by step, when you already want to trust him because of the truthful stuff.
Many charlatans, frauds etc. also copy from the Meier material and put their own spin on it, like Barbara Marciniak, Alex Collier etc. To a lesser extend this was also the case with Randolph Winters, who either got some facts wrong or changed them knowingly and also added stuff that wasn’t there, when he presented the Meier Case in the US. Which is why Michael decided to do his own presentations based on the unaltered facts in the case.
I think someone has to be a conduit between the new age nonsense and I think Mark is well aware of that.
The PJ used UFO’S as a tool to attract attention. Mark has his methods and think he will bridge the gap and attract more people to the Meier case.
I don’t believe the purpose of all UFO groups is to suppress the Meier case. It’s just that the world is chock full of information and disinformation and it’s impossible for a human being to study anything and everything. Like Billy said, we are really stuck in an seemingly endless labyrinth. People are raised with certain ideas, they grow up and choose to study certain information, which may be disinformation, and form their own opinions, and choose not to study other information which may be valuable information or never even come across it in the first place. By far most people who live today will probably never know about the Meier case. Many people who are interested in ufology may genuinely not believe the Meier case is true, as I do not believe the George Adamski, Raël and many other contact cases are true, even though I didn’t thoroughly study them. Our time on this earth is simply limited and people have to choose the best they can what to study and what not to study, but they might be wrong sometimes. That’s just the process we have to go through which will take many generations.
If the purpose of the UFO groups is to find the truth, then they’re sure failing at that – every one of them. And don’t you wonder why you and I and a lot more people have found the Meier case…and entire groups dedicated to the topic haven’t? Please know that, of rears, I’ve sent them information and invitations to do so. Without exception, they’ve ignored, avoided, even attacked the case. The reason is simple and unavoidable: they aren’t interested in the truth, they’d go out of business if they participated in pointing out the singular authenticity of Meier’s contacts.
Somebody prove me wrong…please.
This was part of the criteria that evolved in my system back in highschool for finding the meier case (eventually when I found it). One of many many ways to cross reference its singular importance and authenticity. Look at all or most of these ufo groups. They are either government funded or affiliated. Why would the government or CIA promote those groups? And as you point out, in EACH of their cases, they give no evidence anywhere and give no direction. Just carefully crafted never ending circles. PERFECT! Just one more avenue to keep people distracted.
You have to do a little more math to conclude that they are concealing something but it didn’t take me long after realizing this that it was the Meier case that they were concealing. That’s what got me excited as a teen. I knew it was only a matter of time before I found it.
My question always was, what are they trying to keep people distracted from? Why the smoke and mirrors? The never ending unsatisfying stories and big names and head honchos to back it up? I knew it had to be about more than just making money for some UFO presenters. It just didn’t all add up when you put it all together.
The funny thing that I never understood is, this math is so effing simple!! Why don’t other people have these questions going on in their heads? Throw religion and politics in the mix and you have a pretty clear picture.
I should write a book about how you can predict the Meier case without knowing anything about it. That would be interesting.
The never ending circles gets people going nowhere wasting their time, and it also provides a way for more serious people to get discouraged with the whole topic to begin with. Which is why science won’t look at it generally. So they have huge advantages (or so they call them) for promoting the garbage. This is when I figured out that the last place I would find the meier case was ufo groups. Then came the 9 long years of no searching and just by happen stance, complete dumb luck, my uncle told me about it off the cuff. Took me three months of research before I could confirm it with myself but there you have it. The disinformation campaign is that effective.
I thank George Green for being so “off” that it made me look for truer truth.
BS really can be just as useful as truth. It’s just truth in disguise when you take all the untruths and put them together. You then get a ridiculously clear picture. All the things that don’t add up together add up together. It’s a paradoxical way to the truth. And it works like a charm. It’s a pain in the ass but it does definitely work if you don’t get offended by contradicting views.
Its not possible to prove you wrong. Id say your right on the money.
I have recently started to think about how the whole story really is not so much about Meier or the PJ. Just the fact that they want to give us a hand up and steer us to discover and live the natural course of life. This natural course as i understand it means we have to make mistakes. Its seems though, the PJ are giving us a great gift by bringing us the life recommendations. I can only imagine that if we where left to figure this all out by ourselves we would either anyhalate ourselves or take many more years than 800 to begin to learn the progressvie course to life. Maybe Thousands upon Thousands.
I have heard or maybe read that from the notes that we can only spiritualy evolve so much at a time in our lives. 9 months or so at our current spiritual level of enlightenment. PLease correct me someone on this.
So on the current scale of things most of the people on this planet are likely utilizing very little of that potential and evolving very little if any.
Looking at this on a scale of One to Ten. The Meier material can help us utilize the best and fastest way possible forword. Off the charts a TEN. Then you have reality TV showS like House wives. On a evoltionary enlightenment scale. Those shows would easily rate a negative TEN.
Now the question must be asked can we still progress in a possitve meaningful way if we never come across this material. I think yes.
Are thier examples out there that promote groth that are not connected to this material. Who are they. What are they?
Nice thought promoting article as always Michael.
To be clear our best bet is the spiritual teaching but you don’t just jump right from our everyday thinking breathing and living to the spiritual teachings. It is of course a process. Usually beginning with the thought of other beings visiting us and the UFO lights in the sky. In its self, I think spiritually enlightening.
But as you clearly point out Michael and Unfortunately for us there is a large fishing net of UFO disinformation blocking the path to the Meier Case gold. Beating that “dead horse” as I have heard you say over and over and over.
Have you seen an increase in traffic Michael Since the thrive endorsement.
Hi D,
Well I think there’s been a small but steady increase to both my site and blog but I don’t think there was an exponential jump from the Thrive endorsement. Some has come from the press release about Matthew the aerospace engineer, some from…who knows what?
I am very happy to hear that. The mor that merrier
Quite so!
No one bothers beating the dead horses around here since the military industrial complex that killed them has made them so toxic not even crows will touch them.
Hey Michael you’ve proved yourself wrong when you got it right namely that these vultures and hyenas are definitely interested in the truth alright but only their own version of the truth and not the one that truly counts.
Hi Matt, I must say I really enjoy your comments on the figu forum. Thanks for crossing over.
Thanks for the welcome Sheila and same goes for me too of your contributions:-)
These groups may fail in finding the truth, at least about the Meier case, they may find truth about other aspects of the UFO reality. But it doesn’t mean they are all consciously suppressing the Meier case. Surely intelligence agencies are consciously influencing those groups, as the Vatican is consciously influencing their flock all over the world, but that doesn’t mean the people of those groups, even the leaders, are consciously helping to conceal the truth.
I was a part of a fundamentalist christian church for most of my life because I was raised that way. From your perspective you can imagine how far they are from the truth, yet, I have no doubt these people genuinely believe they are following (and promoting) the one and only truth, as did I. Then suddenly my mind started spinning and I started to search and think about things, and 5 months later I was a Figu member. I’ve often asked myself, why did this happened to me? Could it have been impulses from the Speicherbänken? I talked to some people from my church about what I had found, why didn’t the care at all? I found the Meier because someone gave me a Randy Winters book. What if he gave me for example a Raël book? Would I have been a Raëlean now, or would I have stumbled on the Meier case after all? It’s hard to answer these questions, there’s just so many factors involved that have influenced what I believe now, and this is also the case for other people. I can imagine if someone told me about the Meier case when I was still a Christian I would no doubt have rejected it out of hand and wouldn’t have investigated it. It would have been so far from what I believed to be true. And this is what happened when I told my fellow church members about it. All this has lead me to the conclusion that people REALLY have to figure it out for themselves, as Figu also teaches. The world is a very complicated place and the truth is all but apparent, you really have to work for it to find it and even when you do, you can totally miss it.
You have to consider that not only is the UFO part effectively the least important aspect but also that these parties have been sent every possible bit of information about the Meier case and they’ve deliberately ignored it. Can you think of any other field of study where ignoring evidence of the very thing you claim to be seeking, studying, etc., is deliberately ignored? Sorry, this goes too far towards willful ignorance and stupidity to be ignored…as they are choosing to ignore the evidence.
Hi Michael, as my practitioner always used to tell me when someone didn’t show up for their appointment, they just aren’t ready yet. For me it has been about a 15 year progress starting with natural medicine and once you realize how suppressed that is, one can only imagine (and have seen with my own eyes) how suppressed the Meier material is. For me the UFO aspect only came into play in the last 5 years previously I was one of those rolling my eyes at the mention of it, just saying people do change. But humans now know there are billions of stars and planets and galaxies and what is the probability that there is no other life?
To me the spiritual teaching has been comforting in those times when you wonder if you’ve made the right decision, if you’ve said and did the right things. For example it teaches you the right way to act when someone is trying to rob you of your inheritance. Things we need to know in our everyday life because I often wondered if I had done the right thing concerning that. Reading that I did, made me able to put it to rest, what a huge relief.
Hi Sheila, I think the “not ready” thing is quite understandable for much of humanity, especially those who have no interest in the subject. I hold a different standard for those who profess the greatest interest.
As I also hope to make clear in coming blogs, etc., this really isn’t about the UFOs, extraterrestrials so much as about our own future survival. The fact that it’s all tied in together does make it difficult for those who really can’t deal with any of the elements separately but they do just happen to be bound up together a bit, though not inseparably.
Like everything and everyone, it’s all a work in progress…racing against the clock and the effect of many causes.
You are right, Michael, they are deliberately ignoring it, which makes me wonder, which group of aliens is controlling all of them! I was looking for “contact” information casually for many years, and though I heard much discussion on Facebook and other sites about “Pledaians”, only recently did I see the name “Billy Meier” and some photos of the ships. Well, I thought, I must have been blind all these years, not to have found this person in Switzerland (and in the ‘eighties I was in Zurich for a few days a couple of summers, and had I known what I know then, I most certainly would have visited his farm and had a look around. . . . hindsight is golden, they say. . . . )
Carolyn, I think it’s quite safe to say that there aren’t any “aliens” controlling them, just people with very alien ideas about life, i.e. the intelligence communities, governments. religions, etc.
It’s much easier for the John (& Jane) Doe’s to follow like sheep and wait for the ‘official’ word from those wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Then we have black sheep – those who seek Truth for themselves – who are made responsible for the flocks, faults and failures.
Nicely put.
Very true. Makes me wonder how many of us here are considered black sheep? I know I am.
Well, I thought I’d write to help dispell the “…depressing”. Unfortunately, Michael your last comment above is just true.
One point I would make though, is that Greer has said and made a point of saying, excactly what Meier did regarding these so-called grey aliens; that they are NOT ALIENS they are androids now manufactured here on earth. The “now manufactured here on Earth” (and I paraphrase) is what Greer says. Therefore both agree that these are not aliens and that any interaction with a grey does not constitute alien contact. Maybe try to start a dialog coming from such common ground? I’m not sure, however, that Meier nentions these “now being manufactured on Earth”, he does say they are androids and not aliens/extraterrestrials as you point out.
Meier has said that the so-called “aliens” that people report during any actual abductions, which are military and not extraterrestrial, are surgically modified human being s made to look like the infamous Grays. Meier’s said that we’ve had cloning going on for possibly 40 years or so now and that this includes the surgically and drug altered human beings. He hasn’t directly said that there are any terrestrial androids yet.
Funny you say that because people still believe that human cloning is illegal, but in reality its only illegal to those that don’t have permission.
“Sorry not to be either a believer (what we should not be according your own teaching) or a yesman!)”
I borrow these words from someone who asked a question on the official forums directly. I d like rang me to say how wise his words, and some others, and how this kind of wisdom has been lacking. And how people feel, those who do not report, attend a festival of nonsense, lack of accuracy in what is claimed, and suddenly say here that the right to disagree told us.
I’ve said here, and it knows who followed this case for some time, that the difficulties which arose between BEAM and UFO groups, or other lines of thought and study of the contradictions that emerged began to appear. It is not lack of material evidence or issues of WC-Ufo. Are other more serious issues. Will be difficult to make an assessment and discussion of them all in this space, but we go for the basic axis of contention, which is the discrepancy between the original concepts of information and contacts, even summarized, and re-elaborations or confusion (by deal with lots of information, as the figu, which is a reasonable claim, says did not come as often as appears) or, even worse, those who believe that to believe and take immediately are already in possession of truth and intellectual ascent and spiritual, as many come here often argued (see previous blog post, or, extreme stupidity and confusion that come some individuals, also go to the judge whether we will or we will not progress).
Many people do not do their homework on culture, history, psychology, ethics, philosophy, and believe that using the concepts presented is enough. Let’s see then:
“A human is a human only if he recognizes truth [without uppercase because Truth would be an expression of religious use who arrogates owner of the truth], knowledge and wisdom, even if he never used the word creation” (original Explanation of Semjase)
“No Creator-God does not exist in this sense”
“Religion as the Earth people know and have, in the form of worship of a God or Saints”
[Taken from texts BEAM played on Futureofmankind website]
Please note: this effect / in the sense that people understand. Is there a way to convert knowledge. There is a caution, a way to explain. This does not happen often, especially in this blog, it would have to have a much larger that the discussions in figu utmost care.
“What would not agree with your own teaching.” This teaching which was passed by who? By a committee of extraterrestrials and are narrated in the original contacts. There is emphasized rather not accept, think, investigate. That is, if they insist that it is the assumption that we have the capacity for it. Our culture, our evolution, our knowledge, gave us this ability and they even claim they are human like us, capable of making mistakes.
Spent studying, admiring these concepts, and then find others, such as the claim made here that we have to make tabula rasa (scratch) EVERYTHING we know and start again, because Plejaren or BEAM will even teach us thinking. Now the thought is given by evolution, not by the concepts we received. And then we found a lot of things that are definitely not right. Why are not right? Why BEAM or their advisors are human and fallible as us, including BEAM already been identified as a man without culture, simple, who received his teaching of a committee of extraterrestrials.
BEAM: “do not trust anyone, not even me.” Was not he nor his space friends who invented the concept of “universal consciousness”, “creative spirit”, “first source and center” and many others that refer to a trend that will last and being acquired, and which no one can tell the owner, nor in Earth, neither outside. And then we came up with honesty and good faith to share in the discussions, and people find all this misunderstanding.
So it’s a very serious situation, and besides think is the truth that others are not seeing, there is the reality with which always will be shocked.
INTEGRITY / NEUTRALITY / HONESTY / INTELLIGENCE / RESPONSABILITY (which is not to blame others for everything, as always occurs here).
While I do believe in the Plejaran visitors and in Billy Meier’s contact with them and in the prophecies, I also believe that there is a God. The problem is, we don’t know him/her/it, and the many of the gods that are worshipped on earth may have been ET’s that visited us in the distant past. Sodom and Gommorrah was no doubt destroyed by ETs. . . not the Plejarans, but some other group, no doubt. Similarly, I have always felt that the vengeful Jehovah was some kind of alien spirit, manifesting himself on earth. What the Plejarans do not tell us, is who these entities really are. Perhaps they do not feel that we are ready for that information, or that if we did know, we would be very anxious and fearful for our own futures, not only in the physical, but also in the spiritual realms of existence. God does exist, and manifests himself in a variety of forms throughout the universe(s). We, none of us, are “uncreated” beings. We all had an original source, an original mind from which we emanated. This mind is visible in our world, as an essence which is visible and palpable, for those who have eyes to see, as it were. Yes, I believe in the Plejarans, in their goodness, and in Billy’s prophecies. But please do take care. . . the earth is being visited and watched by other entities as well, some beneficial and some malevolent. If we “diss” the concept or notion of a protective god-presence, we expose ourselves ever more to the invasion of the evil power, who takes hold wherever the “good” is not. And please, Plejarans, don’t take us all for fools. Some of us incarnate on the earth have been around longer than you know, and we are also wiser than you give us credit for being. . . . .just a thought, take from it what you will!
And, for what it’s worth, wasn’t there an ancient Mayan god named Quetzal-Coatl? He wouldn’t be any relation to Plejaran Quetzal, by any chance, would he?
That was Quetzalcoatl as I recall and I don’t think he was connected to Quetzal.
Wasn’t Quetzal visiting some people in the past, was it? In which case, God only knows what could happen to the future. . . .
Billy Meier was taken into both the past and the future. And, considering that the ancestors of the Plejaren were n some cases our “Gods”…in that sense you may be right!
We do think it’s a good idea to not believe in anything, including the Meier case. Only through thinking things through, deeply, ourselves can we come to true knowing. Actually, you’ll find that the Plejaren told us quite a bit about these people who represented themselves as our “Gods”.
We fall into the same religiously tainted delusions when we think about these “entities”, etc., as they were just flesh and blood human beings like us. I’d also suggest that a deeper reading of the information will assure that the Plejaren and Meier don’t underestimate our intelligence, wisdom, etc. Unfortunately, as a mass of humanity, it’s really quite low.
And I think many people would disagree with the idea that “God” exists, as that name – and everything that comes with it – represents the worst degeneracy and destruction perpetuated on Earth, by humans upon humans. Words do matter and make a difference.
Carolyn,
Have you not read about The Creation?
Are you telling me that as a person who believes in God as the ultimate creator, I’m not welcome in this forum?
Of course not!
Carolyn,
Well certainly I don’t have the power to make the decision of who is welcomed here or not, but as a person who has researched this information and noticed that Billy and the Plejaren have a track record of telling the truth I don’t understand how who can still believe in the “God” theory. I don’t have a problem with your belief, but I just don’t understand. Before I discovered the Meier case I started to create my own concepts of what I thought life is about and I did think of Universal Consciousness because we all do have a conscience. I dropped my religious beliefs way before I ever stumbled upon Meier’s information so I can say that he didn’t change my mind, but filled in the blanks of the concepts which I began to think of.
I even came up with the concepts that maybe the Universe had a mind of its own and if it was “God” itself and was able to create not only us but everything else. These are the kinds of concepts I had before coming across the Meier case. So when Meier talked about life being about conscious evolution and the Universe being an embodiment of Creation which in itself is a spirit it made sense to me. We are also embodiments of spirits and have a mind to create which is why everything thought of by people who have the resources to create them in the material sense come to fruition. It all makes sense to me and I always think long and hard about what I read even if I don’t understand I come back and dwell on it.
So when you say that you still believe in the “God” theory I’m not judging you I just don’t understand since you’re a person that has read Meier’s information. We all have our own mind and spirits, so understanding that there is a spirit in perfection which can create within itself with infinite power is understandable and I don’t have to take the Plejaren’s word for it all i have to do is dwell on it which they do recommend (Think for yourself). We won’t be able to conclude whether the Plejaren definitely exist right now (Even though it’s clear), but the evidence they have left us with (Photos, objects, sounds, accurate prophecies, predictions, etc.) is quite more than the “God” theory has ever been able to bring to the forefront. And for the “Creation” theory if you want to call it that we have the telescopes which we can use to see the Universe which is said to be Creations embodiment. We have yet to witness anything said by the creators of the “God” concept which is evident and makes sense. No offense to you and I hope that none is taken.
If I believe in God, does that mean I’m not welcome in here? What do the Plejarans say to very “good” people, who are living holy lives on earth, and are inspired to believe in a supreme creator spirit, with whom they are in communion?
If I had to choose between believing in the “goodness” of an extra-terrestrial race of unknown origin and credibility, or in the “goodness” of God the creator-of-all-that-is, I will always choose God.
There is NO discrimination against any people for whatever they may believe, etc. The spiritual teaching is intended to assist people to move from the Age of Beliefs to the Age of Truth and Knowledge.
I’ve sometimes upset people when I answered “No,” to their question about if I respected their beliefs. Indeed, my answer really is, “Of course not. I don’t respect my own beliefs, I don’t expect others to and, besides, people’s believes can and do change.” Also, if we had to respect every belief it could get quite strange, since all of us think that some other people’s beliefs are indeed strange.
So, you’re absolutely most welcome here. Don’t worry if people don’t share or even respect your beliefs (or you theirs)…as long as we respect each other as persons.
Hi Carolyn, my fellow canucker, you said in a previous post that the gods of old may in fact have been ET. But now you’ve shrunk back into your shell and proclaim that god is the only true one? Do you not see the hypocrisy in that? Which of the many gods is the true one? The old god who demanded obedience and human sacrifice or the newer god who did away with human sacrifice? I personally don’t believe in god and I like to tell that to religious people because the look on their faces as they are waiting for god to strike me dead is absolutely incredibly funny. It’s almost like they wish it would happen so they can be vindicated. Which makes me think they are not true humans who care about other humans because their religion won’t allow them to care for someone who is not of the same religious thinking lines. The fact that you are here on this blog speaks volumes of your ability to find the truth…so please free up your mind and don’t go into it with preconceived notions as religion has been used for centuries to keep people obediently thoughtless. The Meier material will either click for you or not. Even the stuff that doesn’t click for you right now, you will eventually come back to with a different view. Good luck and hope to see you around.
Hi Michael,
Very well said! I concur completely. The UFO/ET disinformation agenda runs very deep into the secret governments and secrets service agencies. I’m sure the Meier Case is their number one enemy. But as you know, the truth will always “out”. Hopefully that will happen very soon.
I wonder what would happen if the President came out and said that “The Billy Meier case is the only true case of contact between extraterrestrial-humans and a terrestrial-human”…………I can see the headlines now “Obama has gone insane!”…..Meanwhile the CIA is secretly plotting his assassination and his representatives are agreeing to the cover-up!
The World we live in……..You gotta ________ ___ I would fill in the blanks with “love it”, but I think those would be the wrong choice of words. Hopefully one day we can get past this nonsense. I was reading about Meier’s exploration with the Plajeren through the Universe and you can just imagine through his words the excitement and joy he felt. I would like to experience that joy in one of my lifetimes, so I hope the charades come to an end and we can get on track.
Hi J, sometimes you just have to find the beauty and joy yourself.
I think a lot of people already know that ETs are visiting us, and that they have human-appearing forms. In the city I have lived in (Canada) which is of a size of about 300,000 people, almost anyone I might speak to about the subject would not deny the existence of the alien presence on this planet. Some people think the aliens are friendly, some are frightened of them, depending on what they’ve been reading. Also, Hollywood sometimes does the ETs a disservice, rather than being helpful to the cause, they like to portray aliens as destroyers. . . . the notable exceptions being shows from the ‘sixties and ‘seventies (on which I was raised), like “Lost in Space”, “Star Trek”, and movies like “Close Encounters of the Third Kind”. For years, I was disturbed by the fact that, although they are obviously watching us, they seem unwilling to help in any real way, which caused me to wonder about their motives. . . . As a young person, I would have been thrilled to meet a real alien person, and constantly watched the sky for any sign of spaceships. However, I never saw any. . . . There are many people like myself, who would like to believe in and interact with another extra-terrestrial civilization, if given the opportunity.
Well now we know that if we don’t annihilate ourselves we will have that opportunity in the future.
I think we have a problem with the definition of “God”. Yes, the universe is the mind of God made visible. I am not talking about a little humanoid-looking person sitting on a throne somewhere passing judgment on the human race. . . .that is far from what I mean when I say “God”. If you like, you can call the universe and all creation “God”, for so it is. . . God made manifest or visible. Thanks for your comments!
Unfortunately, the problem is that the term “GOd” itself is laden with negativity from millennia of use, especially considering the vile contamination of human consciousness, and the great cost in human life, extracted and demanded by the delusional, enslaving religions. After all…where did this idea and term originate?
You know that Billy (Eduard) as a boy found that the only person he could confide in was the village priest (presumably Catholic). He trusted this person, and this priest did not disappoint him. My own experience with spiritual problems has been very similar. I have found that the priests are people who are thinking a little more deeply about matters than most other people. Billy Meier was a very religious little boy. Perhaps that is one of the reasons why the Plejaran Sfath saw fit to talk to him. . . . after all, wasn’t he taking a bit of a chance on this little boy wandering around in the bush? We should all be a little more generous, both with our assessment of “God” and also of other peoples’ spiritual insights. God bless you all!
No Carolyn, Meier was contacted because of his ancient spirit form, which had also previously incarnated as a prophet. These previous personalities also brought forth the true spiritual teaching, which always was intended to help people to get away from what Meier himself calls…God-delusion.
Studying the freely available teaching, like the Goblet of the Truth, can help one to distinguish between the truth and the false beliefs.
Michael what do you personally think would be the solution to getting these cunning halwits to do the right thing for once for god damn sakes and help them pull their fingers out of their deeply congested a***holes? Yuk!
I doubt that they really want to. For many of them it’s simply nice, escapist nonsense, with a dash of self-importance thrown in.
Well put Michael, it’s like a hobby for them, a chance to meet other people and do “something” together. For example there are “ghost hunters” now, who go into old and abandoned houses to search for ghosts and the like. It’s entertainment and doing something together without a real intention of finding the truth but rather make money with it.
Much of the misunderstandings and misinformation stem from the “new age” movement. I don’t say this with an intent of total admonishment because I feel that the new age movement often has its place and serves as a stepping stone to the actual truth. There is a very real awakening happening here, but it is a subtle one, nonetheless very real and factual and has its roots in many factors, some of which are outside our normal understanding of things. The blatant disinformation seems to be ever present, yet it’s becoming less and less effective. Through the normal cycle of evolution, more and more people are arriving at the correct conclusions and those who want to continue shoveling their disinformation drivel are acutely aware of this as well. They know full well there is quickly coming a time where the veil will be removed and the truth will reveal itself. This is the simple order of things throughout the Universe, that truth can never ever be contained no matter how you try to cover it up. Just because “they” don’t announce themselves to the United Nations or other government entities means very little in the grand scheme of things. Even if the truth does threaten the existing political, financial, and religious institutions, it is something that WILL occur and they as well as everyone else, will have to come to terms with it, sooner than later. Human life forms throughout our Universe and all other Universes must all succumb to the truth of their existence and the actual truth of other life forms. Simon has a good point about how there is a labyrinth of nonsense to navigate, but this will only quicken the process of truth in my opinion because it will require Humans to THINK even more about what the actual truth is and begin to question those who help proliferate untruth. We are well into the Aquarian age now, leaving behind us that pesky age of blind belief and there is no stopping our progress. Yes, it will probably be difficult for those still plagued with religious insanity, but they will live through it. All terrestrial Human beings are perfectly capable of absorbing the truth regardless of their previous maniacal indoctrinations. It’s fairly obvious that Humans here will continue to try to feed off the fear and doubts of their fellow Humans, whether it be for profit, power, or simple manipulation. What these people fail to realize is this will only serve to bring a backlash of unimaginable instances of cause and effect that they themselves will have to endure. I have a feeling many of us here and now have had to endure similar things in previous lives. The FACT that there are other Humans outside of our sphere of existence is irrefutable as evidence of this has been freely given to terrestrial Humanity via the Meier case and this knowledge will NOT be contained. People had better start rapping their brains around this much sooner than later, because truth is upon us now whether we want it or not.
The pseudo-religious “New Age” holds nothing for the Meier material and will do nothing for it. What needs to be done is clearly outlined in CR 251 which only Billy was allowed to mention in 1995.
CR 251:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251
As Ptaah states:
“You alone made it possible to promulgate this subject matter worldwide and provoke the controversy to the extent that it is not only religious and pseudo-esoteric sectarians, fanatics, gullible individuals, madmen, etc., who preoccupy themselves with the subject. Finally, for some time now, a great variety of scientists, governmental agencies, military services and governments have also begun to seriously preoccupy themselves with this subject, a fact that could not have been accomplished without your help and great resulting effort. Actually, alone through your efforts was this successful launching of the worldwide UFO controversy possible, for which we all express our appreciation to you – a recognition you had to really struggle for, when I think of all the harm that came crashing down upon you.”
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The New Age folks are the religious AND psuedo-esoteric folks Ptaah references so there is no sense to synchronize New-Ageism and the Meier material and believe they’re talking about exactly the same thing which, according to the Meier material, is what every previous teachings went through and became assimilated into and became ‘incorrect’ as a result of. CR 251 shows the why, how, and where we are going and should be a supplemental to the Henock Prophecies given the length, breathe, and depth of what Billy is allowed to discuss. Clearly, civilization does not end in CR 251 and there is a potential for TWO more WW.
I made no such synchronization between the Meier case and “new-ageism.” I only pointed out that many people find the truth via this path only to ulimately discover the real truth. Many folks find truth in many different ways and none are any better than others, just different. This is precisely how Human beings learn truth and that it is through many trials and errors. Even the most religious among us often find their way to truth via dogmatic paths. It’s how we learn and evolve. I am also intimately aware of the contact notes and there contents.
Ones again there is not much more to be said. Though it all needs to be said over and over and over!!
This so called ‘field’ of ‘ufology’ is exactly what it only truthfully is. Yet, with so many other subjects awash in the same illogical garbage, it obviously shares the same ‘traditional’ fate. Degenerative stagnant illogical garbage, with most of our hands dirtied within its filth.
I spent years wading through the garbage knowing that is exactly what 98% of it was…. looking for the truth if it was available. Something pushed me to look as it always seemed to be right beyond my grasp. When I found Billy’s case it was as if I had found exactly what I new always existed.
And it obviously does!!!!
It is a good thing to keep Billy’s work far away from this ‘ufology’, as it seems a large percentage of it is nothing more than humans illogical ‘spin-offs’ of Billy’s case. Looking for the truth every where other than where it is… out right lies with a lot of suppression, amongst other things. Most like with religion, suck up every last drop without a thought or care in the world. Who cares, someone else will take care of it… no need to be or do anything, including think. Keep your collar on and don’t get to close to the fence or you might get shocked! Most it seems don’t even look at the fence, let alone go anywhere near it! Lost on the inside and out… how could it be any different when our logic has been created around diseased mental lies that spread like wildfires over our scorched earth.
Michael, what meditative position and methods would you recommend? I’m interested in getting into meditation.
J.,
I’m not the best one to ask about this actually. I do some of my meditating standing up. But I think that some people on the FIGU forum like Jacob could better advise.
Okay, thanks!
Many times when I mention the Henoch Prophecies, people will say “they are only prophecies and prophecies can change and they can be avoided”, true enough, but as it is mentioned below, Humanity must change dramatically to avoid these prophecies. In my judgment, Humanity is NOT changing one iota towards the CHANGE that is needed to avoid the HP.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Henoch_Prophecies
“162. So listen, then:
163. If the human being of Earth continues to live in the same way as he has done up to now—forming his thoughts and feelings in the same manner, indulging in the same actions as he has hitherto—then the words of the prophecies of Henoch could not be any clearer.
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200. However, the great war will hardly be avoidable because the human beings of Earth will probably not accept the directions towards the better, therewith towards true love, true freedom and real peace, striving instead only towards wealth, pleasure and riches and for all manner of material values and unrestricted power.
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207. The entire planet will become an arena of unparalleled suffering, which will never have existed before on Earth up to that time.
208. The cruel happenings will last about 888 days and cause civilization to collapse.
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217. Far in the West, it will be different; the United States of America will be a country of total destruction.
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277. America’s largest cities will be absolutely destroyed, and firestorms will cause great disaster and misery.
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292. Finally, the words of Henoch may be specifically mentioned, which include that mankind of Earth, in pursuit of technology for mass destruction and greed for power, hatred, vengeance and riches, will ignore all values of Creation and will trample upon all values of love, wisdom, freedom and peace, as ancestors of the Henoch lineage have done before, to plunge the world into screaming misery, death, destruction and annihilation and into the most severe catastrophes mankind of Earth will ever have experienced.”
We already discussed this recently, but because you have an incredible ability to detach yourself from reality, I will remind you Billy recently stated WW III does not appear to be on the horizon (in part, I understand, because of the wise politics of Barack Obama, who you so ignorantly malign).
Not that there is not still an urgency to make positive and progressive change, but to say there has not been one iota of such change is an overstatement and is disrespectful to, for one, the blog host here, whose efforts surely have produced a measure of change. He helped “convert” me, for one, away from my lingering religious delusions and inspired me to take greater self-responsibility. Many have said the same. His readership continues to increase, as well as does Meier’s. This is at least an iota.
Finally, take note that the blog host here has also on a couple occasion expressed his general disapproval of long quoted material, which happens to be your hallmark (in addition to your childish terse “you are 100% incorrect” broken record speak).
What are you talking about? You haven’t changed. You still act like an idiot. I was referring to the actions of HUMANITY. How could you not understand that?
Well, considering you have not checked in, like you said you would, regarding warning the world of the events you ‘predicted’ in September with contacting responsible authorities and making a website. If you need some helping music to get you motivated, here’s a gem of a classic:
Ooohh, my mistake. I didn’t realize that me and all the lives Michael and Billy/FIGU have influenced (150,000 Goblet of Truth downloads!) are not a part of humanity.
Also, because your judgement continually proves to be completely erroneous, I’ll place my bets with Billy:
“At the moment another WW is not in the foreground. Of course everything depends on the actions of people, but it can be expected that the persons in the specific/leading positions will be careful not to start another WW.”
Of course, as Billy points out too, it is not so much up to “humanity” at large whether war begins anyway, but a handful of specific people.
Will you come down from your high horse when your September quakes do not come to pass? When all your predicted deaths and other specific predictions don’t come to pass in the coming months? Given your super-power to self-deceive, I actually doubt it.
And given that virtually the entirety of your online presence is on this blog, good luck ever getting a client to unquestionably believe you again. (I still can’t believe you said that. Unbelievable. And you claim to be a Meier student! Disgusting.)
You dug yourself a hole with your lies and plagiarism and failed predictions, and now you throw the dirt over yourself with your continued childish and misguided insults to virtually everyone who has engaged you here.
I may be an idiot compared to many many folks (but, I am pretty comfortable where I sit in relation to you). I’m far from perfect. But at least my slip ups won’t sting as much, given that I haven’t shaped my entire presence on this blog to give the impression that I am superior to all.
Both of you act dumb and will be ignored.
Tony, just a suggestion of course but maybe if you’re gonna ignore people you…don’t need to keep telling them?
I know Michael, but for the sake of the new-comers…
Ha, Ha, Ha. . . . .
Thanks for justifying my criticism for the new-comers Tony by continuing — as someone who claims to have been a professional since before I was born, no less — to act about as mature as my 8 year old niece.
Here is an idea — if you really want to salvage your rep, if you want to be taken serious about anything around here ever again, how about you do the sensible and long over due thing, and apologize for your unjustified belittling of those here and your extremely exaggerated claims of predictive accuracy? That way you can then jump on board with the rest of us — I know you abhor the idea — an act simply according to what you are, a typical, non-highly-special person. That way too you can have a real go at implementing the teaching, by acknowledging your mistakes, fessing up to them (and apologizing for them where need be), and attempt to learn from them.
It’s the only way forward for you at this point. Or…you can continue to double down on your mistakes, your infantile “dialogue”, your god-complex. I know it will be painful to do the former, but I will, and I am sure others will likewise, happily lay off the criticism when you take that step. And, I bet it will be more freeing than painful.
In any case, in the meantime I’ll try to lay off, at least until I find you blatantly, actively misleading again, or until you speak again with that hallmark contempt for others which has become your signature style …but something tells me that won’t be long.
As I am sure you feel likewise towards me, I am beginning to care less and less about you personally, but I too write for the benefit of the reader. You are increasingly embarrassing to be associated with.
You can push that day of reckoning back til post-September if you want, or till 2015, but when you come in around 4% again, it will truly be the case as described in the second paragraph above — either fail to come to terms with reality and forever be laughing stock of this blog, or do fess up to your mistakes and become like the rest of us, a fallible but more or less decent and valuable contributing member.
I am beginning to feel a little childish myself, continually allowing myself to take a dip into this filth. And if this is all a tad over-dramatic, perhaps I did let you get under my skin a bit with your repeated insults. Shame on me.
I know you’re not in the business of making friends (despite your lip service to the New Agey and silly sounding “spiritual brotherhood”), and that’s fine. But words have consequences. And unless you quickly change your tune, I have a feeling your words are going to be coming back on you as a world of hurt.
I don’t know Mike. Tony can’t hear you over how awesome he is.
Another confirmation of Meier’s info?
http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/1.2666306
Compare it with the info here to see:
http://www.theyfly.com/origin-earths-moon