UPDATE: Aug. 3, 2014
Questions being posed to Antonio Paris now here. He dodged all attempts to substantiate his claims against the Meier case but now is shucking and jiving about begin a “UFO researcher”. Feel free to chime in.
UPDATE: July 17, 2014:
Hi Antonio,
We took you at your word regarding your willingness to review the Billy Meier information and evidence which, without any actual investigation, research, etc., you had concluded was a hoax. You have also posted Meier’s photos in a section of photos you claim are hoaxed…and which we’ve requested that you remove.
It’s well past the time that you said you’d be following up and getting back to us. More than a few people have raised questions about your failure to keep your word and some have raised concerns that you’re being…”advised” as to what to say or not say.
As you know, MUFON has effectively changed its position of 34 years towards the Meier case and I think we’ll soon be seeing more developments in that direction.
So at this point it is strictly up to you if our original assessment of your own credibility, etc., stands, or if you are ready to stand up and present credible substantiation for your old position.
There is an old saying that often applies as well, “No answer is indeed an answer as well.” We look forward to your answer – now – seeing as you’ve effectively defamed a man with no reason to do so and you’ve certainly had sufficient time to support or recant your position.
Sincerely,
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
UPDATE:
Since this blog has received an unprecedented response, especially from very uninformed people in the UFO community/industry who are essentially hobbyists, perhaps before attempting to comment on things that they admittedly know nothing about, they would do us all the favor of at least reading this first…and save themselves further embarrassment:
NASA Engineer: The Billy Meier UFO Case Is Real
As we celebrate Independence Day today, on July 4, it seems like the perfect time to look at what may be an example of how some of the best, government trained personnel are now “serving” the public in this peculiar area of UFOlogy. Knowing that the government ‘s job is essentially to protect and serve the people, who better to protect us from any confusion about what’s really going with UFOs, and to reassure us that any appropriate investigation of the subject is being carried out, than a formerly high-ranking military intelligence professional? Of course one mustn’t try to second-guess just how these people do their jobs. Case in point: Antonio Paris of API. The following blog is a result of what I’d call a mixed message from Mr. Paris. As he had been on my mailing list, I was surprised to receive this email from him, on June 30:
Remove me from this mailing list NOW. I DO NOT want any emails from YOU. I am no longer interested in anything about UFOs.
PERIOD
Thank You.
My request for clarification of this confusing, seemingly inconsistent request wasn’t responded to so, on July 3, I sent this to Antonio and all of the team members listed on his site:
Dear Antonio & Co.,
I noticed the following here:
“API is a worldwide UFO investigations team about the scientific investigation of unidentified aerial phenomena (also known as UAPs or UFOs).”
…on a page that mentions “UFO” 32 times, with an insignia that has three UFOs on it.
Since we agree that the entire field of “UFOlogy” is largely unscientific, lacking in credibility, etc., it seems safe to assume that you would be interested in the only scientifically proven, still ongoing (over 72 years) UFO contact case of Billy Meier. (The Meier case also meets the legal standard of proof.)
Since the evidence in the Meier case is not only stunningly clear, still irreproducible but also testable by anyone with PhotoShop (which didn’t exist when Meier took all his photos, etc.) I’m sure you and your team would agree that the need to chase lights in the sky has long since passed.
You now have what you’ve been looking for, freely presented to you on a proverbial…silver disk. So I invite you to respond to my invitation to explore the evidence in the Meier case…as MUFON has now also decided to do.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
Then, this morning, certainly flush with that patriotic spirit, Antonio, er, cleared everything up for me with this reassuringly open, professional response:
Micheal
First, please email ME only. It is unprofessional to blast everyone an email. If you want me to respond, thats fine. But DO NOT email my team. They are very busy with their lives and they only study UFOs a few times a years. UFOs are NOT their full time job.
API is only interested in about 5 cases per year. Thats it, five. We do NOT investigate historical cases such as the Billy Meier photos. WE DO NOT HAVE TIME FOR THIS. We all have families and full time careers that have nothing to do with UFOs. API is a small and part time team only. We are not MUFON.
Thanks
Antonio
I responded thusly:
Antonio,
I think we need to clear up some communications here. You’re a military man so I’m sure that my cutting straight to the points will be appreciated.
1. Since there are email addresses for the members of your organization in the US and UK, with no qualifiers that they shouldn’t be contacted…why is it “unprofessional”? As a matter of fact, your promo material makes it look like studying UFOs is indeed what they do. I must have missed the “five cases per year” thing. Have you also arranged it with…whom or whatever is being sighted that there will only be five cases per year occurring that are worthy of your time?
BTW, if my email to Cherish had been a modeling or acting opportunity would that have been a problem?
2. You represent yourself and company as a professional, scientifically oriented, serious organization of “trained UFO investigators” that investigates, researches and analyzes aerial phenomenon. So what part of a more than 72 years-long, still ongoing UFO contact case doesn’t qualify?
3. You inform the public that you are a former “US Army Counterintelligence Officer and Department of Defense Counterintelligence Special Agent.” Is part of your specialty being deliberately non-responsive to the actual questions and points I raise with you?
4. You tell me that you “don’t investigate historical cases such as the Billy Meier photos.” Is there an expiration date on the truth? Is “historical” now being redefined as being synonymous with: irrelevant, unimportant, to be ignored, false, etc. As a self-described COINTEL pro yourself, is this new dismissive and contemptuous approach to “historical” perhaps COINTELPRO to “protect” us from a pesky, inconvenient, thought-provoking, disturbing little thing called the truth…a word that seems to be missing from your mission statement.
It is interesting, however, that you consider Roswell to have been “proven” to be just what…the government said it was, a weather balloon.
5. Have you ever heard the term “cold case”? Don’t you realize that today’s technology, including PhotoShop, is the digital equivalent of DNA testing? Have you bothered to review the expert analysis of the WCUFO photos using state-of-the-art technology conducted by Prof. Rhal Zahi, the results of which an eight year-old child can duplicate in about five minutes?
6. Returning to point 3., just whose intelligence are you trying to counter? Sorry, soldier, you’re either misrepresenting your qualifications, or you’re using them to be part of the disinformation you profess to want to separate yourselves from. Your failure to be “following the evidence where it leads without jumping to conclusions” leads me to believe that you’re actually prominent among the “convergence of arm-chair UFO investigators, conspiracy theorists, hoaxers” you disdain.
Perhaps though I’m expecting too much based on your own promotional material. I’ll let my readers decide for themselves.
Sincerely,
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
Naturally, at this point I thought that I should share all this with my readers in part to see if just maybe I’m being too vigilant, even to the point of being suspicious that…things aren’t always as they seem or are claimed to be, etc. I’m reminded of that corny old joke about a man coming home earlier than expected who finds his wife in bed with another man. As he stands there, shocked and confronts the situation, his wife looks up at him indignantly and defiantly says, “There’s nothing going on here! Are you going to believe your own eyes…or me?” Please pay special attention to the way doublespeak is now being used to redefine and equate “historical” with irrelevant. This isn’t the only UFO organization to now be using this tactic. (Watch for how this trend will be – or already has started to be – spread in our so-called “educational system”.) Notice how Antonio’s “trained UFO investigators” are suddenly portrayed as people who “DO NOT HAVE TIME FOR THIS” with “families and full time careers that have nothing to do with UFOs.” Notice how mentioning UFOs 32 times on one page is now the same as his being “no longer interested in anything about UFOs.” The inmates, the asylum, the thrills, the spills! Have a happy holiday…from reality! UPDATE: Here is Mr. Paris’ just received comment on the entire matter, reaffirming my sense that he has more than a nodding familiarity with asylums, inmates, etc.:
You really have no respect for personal emails do you? This is why no one takes you seriously. You need to see a psychiatrist.
Chris,
Im from MUFON too. This Michael guy is annoying and has no respect for email etiquette. I do not know Antonio personally but I did read his report on the San Agustin UFO Mystery last year, which was also on Open Minds magazine recently. I can see why Antonio is one of the top investigators in the community and why MUFON investigators still reach out to him for help. I too cant wait to check out Phenomena.
Well Samantha, that’s nice, I’m glad you have a little hobby that you enjoy.
Say, if there really were actual extraterrestrials meeting with one man on Earth – for over 72 years – do you think that you, let alone all the genius “UFO researchers”, might just possibly want to “discover it”?
Or would you be so put off by this guy who’s so “annoying and has no respect for email etiquette.” so much so that you also wouldn’t bother to discover the…most important story in all of human history?
Feel free to tell us more.
Michael … As a MUFON investigator for over 20 years, I can rest assure I have never heard of you. To claim you are “world’s leading expert on UFOs” is delusional at best. You should go back and retract many of the comments you made above. They are unfounded and completely unprofessional. If you are the leading world’s investigator, why haven’t I ever heard of you? I have been to almost everyone major UFO conference in the past 20 years. On that note, I did meet Antonio at various conferences, including the recent Ozark UFO conference. In comparison, you are an amateur at best when compared to Antonio. I do not agree with everything Antonio puts forth, but he and I are colleagues and we respect each other’s work. Again, read your comments above to everyone who disagrees with you. Your comments are way off base.
Josh,
As someone with…35 years of international experience, I can give you a couple of reasons.
Of course once I do, perhaps you’ll substantiate your own credentials as a “UFO investigator for over 20 years”…and explain then just why you’re not informing the world about the only, scientifically, proven still ongoing UFO contact…for more than 72 years.
Now, while this is gonna kind screw up the aesthetics of the comment section here, I’ll start you off with the following and suggest before doing so that you hightail it to my site, search me out on youtube, etc. Actually, just posting my credentials should make you question just what kind of a silly hobby, with know-nothing “experts” you’ve been wasting 20 years with:
Michael Horn
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
http://www.theyfly.com
Writer/Producer/Director
And Did They Listen?
as the time fulfills
Writer/Producer
The Silent Revolution of Truth
Michael Horn & Davida Horn
Co-Producers/Co-Directors
Breaking the Silence
The Blog!
The Adventures of Billy Meier
“But, to reflect on the statement that’s in the film, I also remember seeing a shot on the Super8 reel that showed a UFO circling around a fairly tall tree. According to that shot, we said that we can’t conclusively say whether it’s real or not, but it seemed impossible to stage that kind of a shot with a miniature (it would have to be hanging on a very tall crane, with wires – but even then the movements would be hard to achieve.) So, yes, in regards to that shot, we mentioned that we could definitely do it today with CG, but at the time these were supposedly shot – it would have been very hard, probably even impossible, to fake this kind of shot.”
Volker Engel, Marc Weigert – Uncharted Territory
Academy Award-winners, Special Effects for “Independence Day”
Recent Presentations by Michael Horn:
International UFO Congress, Hong Kong
Campos do Jordao, Brazil
Texas Station Hotel, Las Vegas
Flagstaff Southside Center, Arizona
ASPE Conference, New Mexico
Metropole Hilton, London
Ontario Science Center, Canada
Meta Center, New York City
University of Alberta, Canada
University of Calgary, Canada
University of, Victoria, B.C.
NEXUS Conference, Amsterdam
NEXUS Conference, Australia
Art Institute of Los Angeles
Bay Area UFO Conference, Santa Clara
Dolphins and ET Civilizations, Hawaii
Bodhi Tree Bookstore, Los Angeles
First Friends Fellowship Hall, Los Angeles
Conscious Living Expo, Los Angeles
National UFO Conference, Hollywood
IUFOC, Laughlin
Night Search World Forum, Memphis
AUFORN, Australia
New Life Expo, San Francisco
Recent Media Appearances:
ABC News Talk Channel
ALL STAR RADIO National
CNN International
COAST TO COAST AM International
CONSCIOUS MEDIA NETWORK National
FOX Radio Alan Colmes Show National
CRN National
G4TECHTV National
JOURNEY INTO THE VOID San Diego
KEVIN SMITH SHOW International
PLANET X RADIO, UK
RADIO AMERICA National
SIRIUS RADIO NETWORK National
TALK RADIO NETWORK National
TALK SPORT International
THE CUTTING EDGE National
VOICE OF AMERICA National
WKQX National
KLBJ Austin
WCBM Baltimore
WYDE Birmingham
KKUP California
KTOX California
WGN Chicago
KNON Dallas
KOA 850 Denver
DRQ Detroit
WPON Detroit
WTOP D.C.
WLRQ Florida
WDRC Hartford
WCRA Illinois
WYBR Indiana
KCMO Kansas City
KFI Los Angeles
KLOS Los Angeles
KRLA Los Angeles
KROQ Los Angeles
WSAR Massachusetts
KQRS Minneapolis
WOTW New Hampshire
FLY New York
WBAI New York
WLW Ohio
WKY Oklahoma
WFTW Pensacola
KYW Philadelphia
WURD Philadelphia
WMKX Philadelphia
KMOX St. Louis
KKUP San Francisco
KPRI San Diego
KIRO Seattle
KTKT Tucson
WFAD Vermont
KGAB Wyoming
WDLB Wisconsin
International Internet:
Achieve Radio
Allan Holender’s ZenBiz Radio
Badlands
Be Reasonable
Betsey Lewis Show
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CA MUFON Radio
Cattell’s Stardate
Conscious Media Network
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Dr. Gianni Hayes Show
Exploring Unexplained Phenomena
Far Out Radio
Frank Whelan Show
Higher Love
Home Tree Radio
I Sci-Fi
It’s Rainmaking Time
Jeff Rense Program
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Kevin Smith Show
Lou Gentile
Joe McNeil Show
Magick Mind
Meria Heller Show
Mike Siegel Show
Moore Talk
Mysteries of the Mind
Nexus Radio
Night Fright
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Now That’s Weird
Ohio UFO Radio
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Out There TV
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Planet X Live
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Topic: UFO
Unraveling the Secret
World Of The Unexplained
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Zephnet
Here is just a sample of what the media is saying about Michael Horn:
Even nationally syndicated conservative talk radio host Michael Medved had to admit “… Look, I’m intrigued by this because, again, some seemingly very bright people seem to believe this. Michael, I appreciate your spirit of openness and sharing all of this with us and your willingness to bring us all up to date on the Billy Meier controversy involving flying saucers and extraterrestrials.”
– Michael Medved – National talk radio host
“I enjoyed visiting with you on the air very much and the audience enjoyed it as well judging by the amount of positive e-mail. We should do this again some time and I look forward to meeting you in person out there where the weather is so much nicer!”
– John B. Wells – Coast to Coast AM
“Thanks very much! Our audience loves this topic.”
– Alan Colmes Show – Fox News
“Michael Horn has appeared on Kevin Smith Show several times, and he is always a fascinating guest with a powerful command of his information. He does not demand that others believe his information, but very politely presses them to know his information and investigate it. One thing he does that makes his appearances stand out is that he provides a lot of corroborating evidence from other sources. It is always a pleasure to have Michael Horn on the Kevin Smith Show.”
– Kevin Smith, Host – Kevin Smith Show
“… And that is without a doubt the best show that I think I’ve ever done on the Meier case. Actually, I didn’t do it, I just hosted it. Michael Horn did it so he goes down as the best spokesman for Meier that I’ve ever had on.”
– Art Bell – Coast to Coast AM (after interviewing Michael for four hours)
500+ Radio Stations 5 million + Listeners – the largest late night talk show in the world
“You’re a fantastic guest!”
– Ian Punnett – Coast to Coast AM (after interviewing Michael for three hours)
And, typical of the effect that Michael is making nationwide, mainstream talk radio host Karen Grant summed it up perfectly “Michael is a phenomenal guest. Whether you are a skeptic or not, he brings information that is fascinating and keeps the audience glued to their radios. The responses I receive after he has been on my show have been overwhelming. The one guest you want to have when it comes to the Meier case and contacts in general.”
– Karen Grant – National talk radio host
“Michael Horn, always a fascinating guest when he appears on Coast to Coast.”
– George Noory – Talk radio host
“Thanks again for doing my show a few weeks ago. I rarely get email from listeners but I did get a few that really enjoyed hearing you and wanted your website info.”
– Arielle Ford – Talk radio host, leading publicist
Regarding Michael’s presentation of the scientific proof for the Billy Meier UFO contacts, and the prophetic material (documented and published by Billy Meier in 1975, 1987 and 1995) that specifically gave advance warning of the destruction of the WTC, the upcoming attacks by the USA and the president, and other events unfolding right now…legendary, conservative talk show host Barry Farber said:
“… I didn’t dream I could ever enjoy a discussion of this nature, but Michael, you amaze me. It’s supremely enjoyable…If you can prove one of them…then you’re gonna change the world. I’m sitting here as a fascinated listener and talk host having a good hour. But if you can prove that anything [like that] came down…then I’m telling you pal, you’re wasting time on the Barry Farber Show. You can change the world… It was a delight! You handle skepticism well and kept things going briskly. I’ve already put your material in the “volcano” file” meaning hot guests who are welcome repeatedly on the show.”
– Barry Farber – Talk radio host
“You were great! You are very articulate and knowledgeable. I thoroughly enjoyed our chat and I hope you did, too. Would you like to come back on in the future? I appreciate you coming on and you were such a gentleman and very charitable about the questions. Thank you so much.”
– Gianni De Vincent Hayes – Christian talk radio host
So Josh, wanna put up or shut up and…help the ever diminishing Antonio and friends do the same?
I thought so.
Next.
Just to be clear, you argument is this:
Antonio is the pro because he will investigate all manner of SUBSTANCE-LESS cases, worthless and unprovable anecdotes etc., and Horn is the amateur because he sees the futility of investing in such triviality and instead represents the ONLY UFO case of substance — and which also has an unparalleled amount of evidence behind it?
Whoa! If you mean he is an “amateur” because he does not make a lot of money like some other pseudo-ufo-investigators like Antonio, that is, if you mean he is an “amateur” because he is not a professional member of the UFO INDUSTRY/distraction/laughable religious-like dog and pony show…than I guess you got him there.
And if you Josh have never heard of Michael Horn–again, who represents the only case of substance in the whole damn field– after 20 years of investigating UFO’s…I think that speaks to your failure not his.
Yep, like I said. Never heard of you. Redneck Radioman??? The list you mentioned above mentions no credible source of information. The websites, stations, etc. you mention above are conspiracy websites that no serious investigator uses as a resource. Best of luck … i will stick with MUFON, API, and NUCORC.
Soooooooo, Josh, you’ve never heard of the IUFOC, Ontario Science Center, the various universities, NEXUS magazine, all of the various sUFO expos, ABC News, WTOP, Fox News, or Coast to Coast – where I’ve been interviewed 15 times? Never hear of them, eh?
What about…CA MUFON Radio, the Thom Hartmann Show, or the Michael Medved Show? Not those either?
And you’re some kind of representative for…MUFON? Does Jan know that?
Can you say “rank amateur”?
Ouch.
A friendly suggestion Josh, you should probably add the likes of theyfly.com or futureofmankind.co.uk to your list of sources there (that is, if you are really interested in genuine ET case of substance).
I’m going to try once to explain how silly and pathetic the current situation regarding MUFON, API and the like appears to the non-insane:
Imagine a planet of really smart folks who just achieved technology sufficient to get them to a neighboring solar system. The planet has never yet found proof life exists elsewhere. They get an excited young team together to go an an expedition to a nearby alien world in the search for alien life. They land on the foreign planet and it is for the most part pretty barren and desolate looking, but as fate would have it, just a couple hundred yards to the left is standing a giant elephant. One man walks over to the elephant and investigates the strange creature and indeed, its not a mirage but a real flesh and blood, living, breathing alien beast! Incredible! Mission accomplished! The creature affords him enormous valuable information about the nature of life in the universe.
Yet, oddly, the rest of the team, with their safari hats and their fancy tool kits, they wander around in the otherwise barren landscape. Taking out his magnifying glasses one takes a close look at the soil. ‘Look, I think I see something! I cant be sure, but possibly maybe I might be looking at a microscopic creature!’ Another comes to pat him on the back ‘Grrrrreeeaat work! Yes, and I took out my fancy gadget and did some measurements –traces of methane! Score! I can’t be sure but I think at sometime somewhere something alive used to be around here!’ (very proud of themselves, they high five).
When they return to their home world… who will be viewed the hero? Who did their job? And what motivated the others to play in the dirt while in the midst of the elephant which represented their stated purpose for being there?
Ah yes, exactly!
And I think what we’re about to see is a growing and MASSIVE disillusionment with the whole “UFO community” farce and the time, the years and decades some of these good folks have wasted chasing lights in the sky…while the Meier case is…still ongoing for over 72 years!
Only too true:)
Never in my life have I seen someone such as Michael go on a rant about UFOs. Im in London and had the pleasure of having Antonio on my podcast. He and API are huge here in the UK. I also had the chance to listen to Paul and Marsha on Case Files. These three are top-notch investigators. Josh, you are correct. I never heard of Michael … but I have now. I will make sure I spread the word to BUFORA here in the UK so they can block him. PS Michael, API is having a live international Google Plus hangout next month. You of all people need to listen. https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c9ep6ap223o3vip35ul94nc4c34
Hi there Roger, London Paranormal Squad, eh?
Now Roger, if you’d actually like to be viewed as even remotely credible, let’s have your profound and illuminating comments not he Meier case, still ongoing for over 72 years only a few hours from where you are probably, right now, sitting on your butt.
Now, nowhere did I say that I’m the warmest, fuzziest person lecturing in the otherwise almost completely delusional, chase your tail, dead-end world of UFOLogy. I simply said that I’m the most expert…simply because I represent he ONLY scientifically proven case that, for some reason or other, you’ve been to lazy to go and investigate yourself, despite its close proximity to you.
I think it hasn’t gone unnoticed that Antonio has effectively destroyed his own credibility,of course with the help of some MUFON people.
“He and API are huge here in the UK.”
Such comments as Roger Dodgers and Antonio’s “I have a great worldwide reputation with over 500,000 fans and followers”, are sooo typical of these as yet completely worthless human beings to whom popularity on planet earth equals the truth. I got news for you, Roger Clemmings, not only is the truth not popular but the truth has not a thing to do with popularity contests and particularly on planet earth.
Fame and popularity and success in spreading “entertainment” is not equivalent (hardly comparable) of being successful in sharing and spreading knowledge of the truth.
Michael need not contact BUFORA as I have already done so a few years back. I am a British citizen interested in the fascinating and important Billy Eduard Albert Meier (BEAM) case myself and could not understand why BUFORA would not investigate it thoroughly. I still do not. The science officer of BUFORA admitted he has heard of BEAM but never investigated because he thought he was a hoaxer. Clearly he wasn’t what one would normally consider to be a decent type of science officer, one that investigates before dismissing, not the other way around. His other excuse was because BUFORA only investigates UK cases (not foreign ones). Quite a disappointing response in my opinion. I’ve also contacted Timothy Good who stated that BEAM probably did have contacts but was dropped after some time, however he only spent 4 hours with BEAM. If I were a UFO field investigator I would spend at least 3 months at the Semjase Silver Star Center investigating this case and attempting to catch alien activity on camera as well as interviewing people, taking radiation measurements of landing sites etc.
HI James,
Uh-oh, I wonder how they’re gonna like my email from three hours ago (links not live in this copy probably):
Dear BUFORA Committee Members,
I have been informed by one Roger Clemmings from the “London Paranormal Squad”, commenting on this mildly provocative blog of mine, that he will recommend “blocking” me at/through your organization.
This is apparently because I have the timerity to try to awaken people to the only scientifcally proven UFO contact case – still ongoing in Switzerland for over 72 years.
Of course I refer to the Billy Meier UFO contacts and I cordially invite you to investigate, comment, challenge, question, etc., any of the claims, information or evidence…certainly before blocking such uniquely historically significant information.
You may want to actually participate and check out:
The Billy Meier UFO Case: Now You Can Prove It to Yourself
…and:
The WCUFO and where It Can Take Us
There’s lots more, including the endorsement from the NASA aerospace engineer. So the only pertinent question now suddenly upon us regarding the entire UFO topic is…which side of history will you be on?
Michael Horn
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
http://www.theyfly.com
Damn, seems like all the skeptics are coming out of hiding on this blog to the rescue of Mr. Antonio. Something seems very fishy about this seeing that this is the first time I’ve seen those names and all of them seem not interested, but found their way to a blog site concerning the Billy Meier case. Don’t these people have “credible cases” to worry about instead of trying hard to praise Mr. Antonio? Who called them to his rescue? Are they playing charades?
I think some people are concerned that we’ll actually watch videos of Antonio, like this one:
…and realize that the cannon is rolling around very freely on the deck of the ship adrift with no anchor.
SIL! If those are the performances that receiving “standing ovations” I would really like to know who’s in the crowd. Certainly this man has no clue at all about what it is he’s talking about and it shows in his responses here also. If the boat sinks Michael and I’m sure it will they’ll all sink with it. Michael, keep exposing these people for what they’re.
What a dog and pony show! A jokester. A complete farse of a UFO smokescreen of a UFO joke.
After watching that video of Antonio’s utter cluelessness, to read all the below glowing comments from various & sundry UFOlogists about the esteemed UFO-detective in charge of API, it’s no wonder UFOlogy is such a joke.
Jose H. Santiago, PhD – “I have to defend Antonio. He is one of the leading investigators out their who has brought credibility to Ufology. I heard him speak at various conferences and he always gets a standing ovation.”
Roger Clemmings – ” Im in London and had the pleasure of having Antonio on my podcast. He and API are huge here in the UK. I also had the chance to listen to Paul and Marsha on Case Files. These three are top-notch investigators.”
Christopher White – “To everyone out there. Just wanted to let you know that I personally worked with Antonio on over 20 cases while he was with MUFON. Antonio is a hard working investigator who has helped MUFON re-write the investigations manual, the report of investigation forms, and he has developed many on-site forensics courses while at MUFON. In short, he is one of the best investigators I still continue to work with.”
Samantha Broderick – “Im from MUFON too. I can see why Antonio is one of the top investigators in the community and why MUFON investigators still reach out to him for help.”
Josh Heilly – “Michael … As a MUFON investigator for over 20 years, I can rest assure I have never heard of you. To claim you are “world’s leading expert on UFOs” is delusional at best. You should go back and retract many of the comments you made above. They are unfounded and completely unprofessional. If you are the leading world’s investigator, why haven’t I ever heard of you? I have been to almost everyone major UFO conference in the past 20 years. On that note, I did meet Antonio at various conferences, including the recent Ozark UFO conference. In comparison, you are an amateur at best when compared to Antonio. “
Bruce,
The only pertinent question now suddenly upon us regarding the entire UFO topic is…which side of history will you be on?
I will clearly not be on Antonio I have over half a million fans, Josh I’m a PhD and you’re not, Rodger the not so artful Dodger Clemmings, Kistopher sno-White, Sammie Broderick no relation to Matthew I assume, and Josh give’m hell Heily
“What can brown do for you?”
Bruce,
They say “Great minds think alike”, I guess inane one’s do too. Not only are they trying to assassinate Michael’s character, but they’re defending a man that has none. A classic case of know-it-alls.
that video makes it clear as day that it’s a case of the blind leading the blind … no wonder this planet has hell to pay for another 8 times a hundred years
These people are like turtles in a shell. Lets poke our heads out and say something and them when he replies back we ignore him and go back into hiding. Again something seems very FISHY about this.
Who the heck is Billy Mieir? I google his name and most of the google results say HOAX.
Case closed Michael. Time to move on. You lost the argument … since you are now just copying and pasting the same rhetoric. Ps, i am not a Skeptic! In fact, I have had a close encounter 8 years ago.
Hahaha oh my God. I just checked the fake photos from Billy. Are you serious? Om my god.
Roger,
This is the response an adolescent gives, not a grown man with experience in doing RESEARCH. Today on this blog site has been a very eye opening day for me to now see exactly what kind of people refute this case. If a simple google search is what a “UFO researcher” needs to dismiss a case then there would be no case to begin with.
Michael, I think these people are trying their best to harass you and misguide others through your site. Seeing that they have not responded to any of your replies. This is what little kids do for attention not grown men trying to get to the bottom of something.
J.,
I didn’t realize they were trying to harass me. I thought they were just misguided, as you say “kids”, you wanted to play and pretend they were grown up and all that.
The delight of the Meier case is that once knows the reality of it, all of the fluff and nonsense from the self-styled, silly “UFO researchers” becomes a parade of naked emperors who secretly know that they are no more clothed than the other ones who are also marching to the Pied Piper of Disinformation.
They definitely are misguided and in the process seem to not want to have a serious discussion, debate, battle of evidence, etc. Basically throwing stones in the form of nonsensical tirades like Roger’s and running back in their shell. A complete lack of morality.
My questions, challenges and invitations for them to post…anything that substantiates their – or the ENTIRE FRGGIN’ “UFO RESEARCHERS/UFOCI” claims – were not rhetorical.
Anybody see anything, ANYTHING resembling evidence? They’re gone, looking for ammunition that doesn’t exist. And just maybe beginning to wonder just what kind of a farce they’ve willingly participated in for all these years.
I don’t see evidence … but it’s EVIDENT that they’re up the cul-de-sac in a cement SUV!
Michael,
I see no responses, period. Which shows that they came to defend Mr. Antonio and run back into their bat-cave. Maybe Mr. Antonio sent out the bat signal for help, but it failed miserably. This was a very interesting day on this blog I can’t wait for the next one, while I continue to read Meier’s material and learn more about myself and the World than anyone in the “UFO community” can every teach.
You probably weren’t even alive in the ‘seventies, so you wouldn’t know anything about those kind of photos anyway. . . .
My comment is for Roger. . . . sorry, I should have named him!
Well he’s been invited to come back and participate with Antonio and the rest of us, so maybe he’ll also reveal his age!
Er, Roger, first, try spelling his name correctly.
Secondly, do your own research. I mean you are a “UFO researcher” aren’t you?
Next, go argue with people like…Michael Malin (NASA Mars Mission) and others:
http://theyfly.com/Scientific_Experts.html
You may even want to try to argue with Matthew Wieczkiewcz:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/05/prweb11867883.htm
Lastly, be VERY grateful for whatever it is that they allow you to do and are kind enough to pay you for it. Don’t give up your day job!
And remember, you’re now on record as being a lovable, bumbling booze who couldn’t find his butt with both hands.
Yeah, please remember that the men in black are probably reading this blog too!
Hey, send them the pizza!
They’re the delivery boyz. . . . LOL
Don’t forget to tip generously…
To everyone following this thread. BM has information not limited to UFOs and ETs but detailed info on your health, spirituality, environment, food, human history that is truly logical. Now when did you hear or stumbled upon a case like Billy Meier’s? I guarantee you, nobody! With the thousands upon thousands of very detailed information already published by BM, isn’t possible, even by a very small bit, that the Meier case is real?
I see Antonio Paris brought his dumb friends over here to help him out because he done such a poor job challenging MH in a scientific and logical way about the validity of the Meier case. Nothing he said to counter MH’s arguments and points added up. He could only throw mud at MH and Meier.
API, Antonio Paris and friends = DUMB
Michael,
Thank you for putting Antonio in his place. He is such a braggart, and make s API sound like they have it all together., which they don’t. Several months ago, API was to have a conference in Tampa. They were advertising Travis Walton to be a main speaker. I went to a Mufon Meet up where Travis was speaking and just casually mentioned to him about him being on the API venue. Travis denied it, said he was never on the venue ticket. We had FI’s going to this conference just to hear Travis. When Florida Mufon confronted Antonio about it a bi g blow up ensued. He started a tirade of dis information about Mufon and of the leadership who had contacted him. Not to long afterwards, his conference imploded with cancellations and did not happen.
Hi Gary,
Implosion seems to be his specialty. I was also wondering why a number of peole in MUFON were extolling his credibility…when he was attacking theirs, etc.
Gee this would explain about this cut and paste Antonio Paris http://planetary-science.org/author/admin/
A senior intelligence analyst for Booz Allen Hamilton, holds a top secret SCI clearance and has worked for SAIC.
These low life scum bottom feeders whose pligh and trade is deception, disinformation, psyops, misdirection, lies, misrepresentation, misinformation, dishonesty and lying through their teeth as a way of making a living are not the kind of people you would like to hang out with on any given day lest their stench reeking filth rubs on you.
You will know them by their fruits they bear and all I seem to come across about this Antonio Paris is rotten tomatoes.
BTW, what irony, that’s apparently the asteroid that Quetzal predicted (in 1981!) would fly by in 2014. See:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_150
I was going to and probably till will write about it next week.
How simple is this . Just forget about the photos , the videos . Read or watch the comments of Phoeble Chang . An embassador for the United States . Read the commentary about 9/11 , the presidents , the solar system , the commentary on disease and human progression . FROM the pre 70’s . The specific fortold coming of the mad cow disease , Crutsfield Jacobs , the meltdown in Lyon France , the death of many in Jonestown , the facts behind Hiroshima Nagaski , facts behind Pearl Harbor , Hitler , the moon landing and Walt Disney ….. on and on READ . Stop looking at pictures and passing SNAP judgements and I will stop making SNAP judgements on you . You may be a great person , but all I read is ….. Question , simple . Who else during the history of planet earth has put foreward a more significant body of work ? WHO ? you have a chance to help just me here , because if their is I WANT TO KNOW NOW . Thats how I am I want to read the best NOW . That is how I spend my time . forget about television . My suggestion is you start learning high German NOW and just fade back for a while . You can always try to compete with your ego . Competition at times is good . But declaring yourself victor over your ego is the assasination of self in real time . Its called EGO DEATH .
Actually she was an ambassador for Cambodia – for 12 years at the UN. And she knows from first hand experience that the entire case is authentic.
These so called UFO researchers and their egos can’t grasp nor understand your lack of diplomacy and why it is useless when it comes to the truth in of itself and in regard to the BEAM case. They go into defence mode it seems right off the bat and start lashing out after only a short time surfing Google. Really? And they call it research? As they continue to dance around the truth, wondering aimlessly through dead end cases and cold case files that contribute nothing to any one or anything. And as you refuse to join there little dance, I wonder Scotty… is there any intelligent life on this strange planet? Unreal man… unreal. I have to say Michael, I don’t envy your job. Or shall I say your day job? (Joke) ha. Peace.
Golly, I know. Why can’t we all just play nice and get along?
Of course that wouldn’t be very much fun now…would it?
It’s a huge waste of time communicating with these phony, stupid, weird, disinformation dupes, dregs of Humanity, like Antonio and his gang, that he obviously asked to write to you, Michael. Their slander against Billy is all that we need to hear, to know for certain, how utterly stupid they are. To me, they are a gang of idiots that will never learn the truth. Everything they said was utter stupidity, absurd nonsense, and fabricated fantasy. They are one of the world’s biggest laughing stock. They are all frauds and dupes, and I had many good laughs reading their supreme nonsense. Deal with them any way that you want to, I think they should go drown themselves, worthless, pathetic human beings that they are!
Well Tony, while you may be restraining revealing your real feelings now, suffice it to say that there are some cheery aspects to this all.
I don’t view their personhood so harshly, it’s their long un-confronted and uncorrected behaviors and beliefs, their willingness to carelessly, causally defame a good truthful man about whom they know nothing that I find a bit irksome.
But today is probably a milestone that we’ll look back on, a course changing event and interaction where a braggartly bunch of bozos really ran head first into their own delusions! The readers to my blog…took no prisoners as as they dismantled and disassmbled the hapless cranks who tried to pull their non-existing rank as – gag me – “UFO researchers”.
The does got unceremoniously put back on their bus, cyber spanked, unable to utter even one word of rebuttal, and I think it’s fair to say that UFOlogy will never be the same.
The worst piece of trash, nonsense, horrible slander against Billy came from Jose H. Santiago, PhD. “Regarding the Meier case, it is complete hogwash. Meier is a known liar and hoaxer and everyone in the community, including MUFON, has considered his photos as bogus.”
The man is an ignorant fool.
Tony,
Relax though, did you notice that none of these esteemed (read: steamed) “UFO experts” could provide even one word of credible evidence against the case or for their silly claims.
Honestly, these people know that they’ve had their 15 minutes of f(l)ame and now they know that…everybody else knows too.