This section will be for questions and (hopefully) answers to a wide range of topics pertaining to the Billy Meier UFO case and its relevance to the world we live in.
Questions on topics such as these and many others are welcome:
To be clear, I certainly won’t be the only one offering answers to the questions, as I know that there are many people who may be more knowledgeable about certain topics and information than I am. So obviously no one should hold back if they have an answer to a question posted here. Of course we’ll all do our best to check the accuracy of the answers as well and see how this approach goes.
Of course there already may be existing answers in the FIGU forum where Billy Meier answers questions almost every month.
Were there anyone taller or bigger than Andron who visited Billy and the SSSC?
Martyn Stubbs NASA ufos are very compelling as to give one the only inevitable conclusion that the Plejaren and Federation members were hard at work being photo models to just about every NASA EU Russian Japanese and Chinese space missions.
There is no other explanation that I could come up with as the 4 foreigners to earth seems to be elusive.
Why was Muras, Karytide and Atlant helpless against thwarting the GIs?
Were they bound by cosmic Creational natural laws so much so that they couldn’t use any violence?
Other than the Plejaren and Billy’s overt warning in contact conversation form to Dyson and Vivienne, were they also responsible for giving protection to them via neutral telenotic impulse towards those who meant harm to take other forms of action which they otherwise would not have taken or did the Plejaren shape the situations and circumstances around certain individuals who further shaped the circumstances and situations around the very people who was going to do harm but was prevented by rigged chance happenings such as getting sick or having the diarrhea from the night out with the very people the Plejaren sent impulses to who happen to take them to an eatery that by fortuitous circumstances had used expired ingrediants for the very dish that these people happen to order.
Stretching a very long bow here but you get my meaning.
Other than for obvious and proverbial reasons do people really know deep down why they oppose religion in its intricate details?
Has any supporters of Billy done a thorough research on religious texts and teachings to come to their conclusions other than Dr Deadorff?
Matt , I had a conversation with a forum member last night about the topic of the religion component and how we felt unique in that we had not been gripped by religion and how that allowed us to enter the Meier materials with an open mind . In addition , we identified that we were also inquisitive in nature and always had been searching for answers amidst much illusion on this planet . It was a very pleasant realization of how rare we are as humans that embrace the Meier material as sceptics and while absorbing the massive amounts of information we were able to see the intilllect and importance of what we felt very fortunate to have finally found . I personally was offorded the opportunity by my parents to be allowed to make my own decisions . They assumed the role as responsible parents to expose my sister and I to as much as possible and allowed us to make our own decisions and respected us for it . I was essentially a philosophy student with a curiosity in religions of the world and cultures . I also was a science student , aside from being a student of this great life we are afforded . So in my path I told of how I had two decades into the study , appreciation and respect of all cultures and found it to be very rewarding and allowing to connect even more so with the world both from the standpoint of human nature and nature itself . I love being outdoors and the direct polar opposite is New York City . I find love in the hands of nature and conversely I find an almost electrical charge so ambient its indescribable when in New York City . NYC , when walking out of grand central station you are immediately immursed into and electric ambiance that is flooded with pollution . I say pollution , because the vast amount of light , human inhabitance in a hyper density ,electro magnetic , microwave , frequency and chaos , although humanly organized . Its pure overload . Being on the edge of say Crater Lake in the West Coast is the converse . Its very startling . So I clearly see the religious implication regarding the cheating of man to behold the truth . All of the prophets tried to deliver the information to show man how to live , and in each event it was altered and misconstrued to provide an avenue to mold and control the religious believers . I can say that the commonalities provide the path to world peace because even these men like Mohammed and Immanuel were worshiped , it could have worked if they left the teachings intact . Its the deviation that was evil . Its that evil that creates the weakness in the psyche that enthralls billions in the state of being unable to be self responsible or accountable in this world . It created walls and superiority complexes within the different teachings that were separated by many years in time yet were the same incarnation trying yet again to see if it can be so . So if the world could possibly see the actual similarities within us all and clarify the actual crimes of human manipulation by altering the teachings we could very well find a global world peace . A global world peace with all the religions being relevant yet realizing worship is not the path or the belief that ones religion is better than the next . The word religion needs to be extracted and the corrections need to be made via the awareness of the true teachings of their human brothers that came to bring them the light . That is the key to the co existence , however the competitiveness and the false superiority of the worship and idolization create the angst and rise the genetically manipulated gene that enables the need to defend the inability to co exist due to the level of the platform the idols were put upon . Mohammed would love and accept all . Immanuel would love and accept all , however the two human brothers and sisters are at a great tension of a ploy of control to create might is right . Meaning my belief is the only belief and I am right . So this is a large component why the Plejaran are so frustrated with the information and efforts falling of deaf ears and in light of this monstrous outcome we see conflict and wars and crusade . Fighting to convince others religions do , convert or be overt . It harbours great animosity and the landscape for conflict due to non compliance . Love was the core of the teachings . And the more you study the more you find the great stories and legends are primarily true . The truth becomes more interesting when these assuming impossible events did happen .However the factual discovery is so rewarding to experience because time and time again the message in communicating the events became misconstrued. Miscommunication may very well be the most tragic component of mankind .
“Love one’s neighbor.”
Can someone elaborate what that means by BEAM? Since Billy mentioned it in the FIGU SB (and I’m pretty sure elsewhere as well that I just cannot recall), I would have used one of my turns to Questions-to-Billy if only to remind myself and if I didn’t have so many other questions pending. I’m equally “curious” of when it should not be practiced.
I think it’s a good question and is maybe preceded by asking, “What is love?” Meier speaks a lot about what love is and isn’t. With more clarity about what love is it may be easier to understand what “Love one’s neighbor” means.
Just saw this Billy quote by Paul Wr on FB. It seems appropriate to place a copy here:
“The more respectfully the love of Creation in all life is perceived and is felt (empfunden), the stronger it also becomes in the person. Then suddenly love is no longer such an insincere and longingly hoped for experience, but the real spiritual-fine-sensitive feeling (Empfindung) of one’s own mental effort.”
Salome.
If people are still following this thread …
I recall reading somewhere that all creatures have a life expectancy that was established (at birth?) and the Plejarens have the ability to reveal/calculate that. This expectancy also seems to be affected by factors such as living at the SSCC, etc.
Does anyone remember where it is formally written?
Here is a question that I’m not going to ask Billy anymore but perhaps someone knows the answer to on this platform. If previous response to questions here is any indication, this will probably go unanswered for a long time.
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To Billy:
In several responses previously, it was indicated that the spirit-form does not think.
However, it seems to contradict information that was previously released by yourself/FIGU. Perhaps you can help me understand what is meant on line 3 in contact report 10 when it says “whether his/her thought are correct or wrong?” Does the process of deciding what is correct or wrong not require a processor similar to thinking? Creation, my understanding is, the great spirit of all spirit forms, which our spirit forms are an small part but none the less an image of, began everything with an idea, on its own. If creative thought process is not the impetus within the great spirit of creation itself how did the laws of creation come to be to set everything else in motion?
Going back to the subject of CR10, line 3, here are several versions of the same line 3 translated by different people at different times for comparison just so that we rule out translation errors. They are listed in the order of the most recent to oldest with stated German source (if available):
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PatM’s translation, which just came to my attention on 12/28/2014:
3. The human being is the bearer of a spirit that does not die and that also in the deepest sleep, of the human beings, never sleeps; it records all thoughts and impulsations; what the human being says, whether his/her thoughts are correct or wrong, if he/she therefrom has learned to pay attention.
based on
3. Der Mensch ist Träger eines Geistes, der nicht stirbt und der auch in tiefstem Schlafe des Menschen nie schläft, der alle Gedanken und Regungen aufzeichnet, der dem Menschen sagt, ob seine Gedanken richtig oder falsch sind, wenn er darauf zu achten gelernt hat.
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FutureofMankind Website: (translation by – ChristianF, with assistance from AndrewC, not dated)
3. The human bears a spirit that does not die nor sleep during the deepest sleep; it records all thoughts and motions; it informs the human whether his thoughts are correct or false-if he has learned to pay attention.
based on
3. Der Mensch ist Träger eines Geistes, der nicht stirbt und der auch in tiefstem Schlafe nie schläft, der alle Gedanken und Regungen aufzeichnet, der dem Menschen sagt, ob seine Gedanken richtig oder falsch sind, wenn er darauf zu achten gelernt hat.
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TedD (from 9/30/2009):
3. The human being is the carrier of his spirit, which never dies and which also in his deepest sleep does not itself sleep, recording all thoughts and movements and telling the human being whether his very thoughts are right or wrong.
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WendelleS (from 1979):
3. The human being is the carrier of his spirit, which never dies and which also in his deepest sleep does not itself sleep; which records all thoughts and movements; which tells the human being whether his very thoughts are right or wrong.
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I chose line 3 only to simplify discussion — this same thing occurs with other lines in CR10.
CR10 and CR11 are perhaps the most important of all contact reports, as they are the introduction to the spirit teaching. In comparing the German sources of the most recent two versions of line 3, it appears clear that the source itself has been updated. When I asked CF a few years ago about another line in CR10 that appears to have been changed from Wendelle’s version (which I did not have his German source to look at) I was told that the original version Wendelle received may be different from the one currently in circulation, which I assume is the one on the FOM website, where I initially noted the difference in translation — which I suspected to be difference in German source. However, it appears now that additional changes have also been made since the FOM website version (recently?). If this is true, are we to assume all contact reports are subject to further refinements when the contacts have already ended decades ago and that these refinements further deviate from the “exact” recordings that was either hand written or typed by means of auto-writing originally in German? (Forgive me if I recall the incorrect terminology you used.)
Side Note:
In examining the changes on line 3 only, it appears that the effort is done to bring the reports in line with other Spirit Teaching writings published by yourself/FIGU. However, would it not be better to leave the original text for purusal and adding a “side note” to the translation (or even the original German source)? This would help to preserve the integrity of the information better from an accuracy standpoint for historical purposes. Either case would seem to suggest Semjase incorrectly conveyed the message as it was originally delivered on line 3, however.
Your comment on these points, as they relate to the spirit teaching, is greatly appreciated.
Sunday, January 25, 2015 – 10:20 pm
Marcela
Hello Billy and Christian:
I recently read an article that some transgender men now are capable of conceiving babies and giving birth, I imagine they have a complete sex change. Is this an example of going against nature by having a male give birth, or no since they become females, are they still respecting the female roll in conceiving life?
Thank you very much for your answers.
If nature provides a person with an uterus (additionally to male organs), then it is a „natürliche Abnormität“ (a natural abnormality).
(Note by CF: It would be entirely different if an uterus etc. would be inserted/operated into a male body.)
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Care to comment on what CF is saying?
Hi Rob he is basically saying its against the laws of nature to modify a human being in this wise and in this case men who are able to procreate.
The article on homosexuality gives you a very good idea on this.
So your interpretation is that it is still wrong after a man does a complete sex change into a woman with complete biological replication to give birth to a child then, as the original questioner had asked? I am aware of his writings on homosexuality, and it appears Meier was not answering the question the way it was framed originally (probably a misunderstanding).
A man CAN’T become a woman. You can change some of the…equipment but the chromosomes don’t change.
Is “sex” defined by the chromosomes?
I think so but I could be wrong. Logically too, just “dressing up” like a man or woman doesn’t make someone of the opposite sex into one, even if they’re doing some chop, hack, add, subtract, inject modifications, etc.
I was thinking more longer term (probably not in my lifetime) where transgendering can be accomplished technologically where a complete woman and man can sex change biologically to get both the “ups” and “downs” of the sex, including menstration from ovarian activities. At the present state, I still consider it wrong to incubate a lifeform in a incomplete state of biological change just for the ability to say one has a uterus to house the development of such lifeform. This also implies the fertilization would have to occur out of the body (e.g. in vitro) which is unnatural.
This is not saying that I advocate doing this just because one decides to have a sex change, but rather one was always sex-confused since the time of birth practically. It would appear the spirit-form was probably undecided about its aspirations until it was born (too late). It still is an aberration of nature since one was not biologically wired that way at birth, but from a relationship/social standpoint, it shouldn’t matter though certain non-disclosure actions would be advised to keep the stigma to a minimum from others who cannot accept these changes at a social level.
Just a thought ….
Spirit forms don’t have “aspirations”.
Of course with corrections in our…consciousness, understanding of reincarnation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_skAb1B9fo&feature=youtu.be), cause and effect, etc., it’s doubtful that we’d “need” to mess around with all this unnatural nonsense. Just think how commonplace the absolute idiocy of women buying into cramming their chests full of plastic, silicone, whatever, in the mistaken, deluded, insecurity-ridden beliefs that such cosmetic deformities are necessary to make them more appealing to slobbering knuckle-draggers.
Hmm…didn’t CF just clarify that “aspirations” was still a valid claim three points about the what determines the sex of the unborn when someone asked Billy a few Q&A ago? Surely there is a gap in understanding somewhere…. I’m still waiting for the dots to be fully connected. 🙂
Not from the spirit. Any aspirations must be connected to the consciousness in the material realm.
Michael,
Please provide the appropriate page(s) that connect the word “aspiration” with “material consciousness” with “selection of gender” in Meier’s writings. Synonyms would be fine. They don’t have to be on the same page or even the same book, we can apply the appropriate associative/transitive logic if the text is unmistakably making each case clearly to allow the dots to connect. That would definitely clear this up. Anyone else having conjecture or is certain on this is also welcomed as well, by the way. 🙂
No, I don’t have time to do all the homework For everyone. Better that you search and maybe you can provide the appropriate pages where the word is connected with “spirit” or “spiritual”.
Yeah you are right Rob it is a misunderstanding on your part.
I think in order for you to get to the bottom of your own question you will have to reread Billy’s articles on homosexuality once again.
As Billy stated it is against the laws of nature to change a man into a woman or visa versa for procreation purposes and this has nothing to do with being homophobic.
Yes, taking the written words literally would suggest that. It would also lock the thinking process into “non-exceptions,” which there are quite a few if one cares to observe. Very few exceptions are really addressed in BEAMs writings — which can give the illusion they don’t exist or don’t matter.
I can’t help to think if it is “against the laws of nature” why did the “aberration of nature” occur in the first place? If an “aberration of nature” happens, should not human beings at the appropriate levels of spiritual and technological development be using that to help bring the “aberration” as much in alignment with nature as possible. Does that stilll violate the principles of conscious-consciousness development? The key is always the proper spiritual and technical advancement, which, as a society, we are still many generations off. Has any of the CRs talked about how P’s address the transgender aberration, if it happens at all on their planet? It would help to shed some light to the evolutionary ladder of such issues.
At this point, I should clarify that I don’t see transgendering at the same level as homosexuality when the desire to be “fully irreversibly” biologically functional is there.
Sunday, January 25, 2015 – 10:20 pm
Jedaiah
Hi Billy,
Can you describe what travelling on any of the beamships felt like?
You mean on or in?
Sitting outside on the spheres of the „Wedding Cake“ beamship felt like being lifted by a platform. The beamship rose and flew smoothly.
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Was sitting “on” a beamship documented elsewhere before?
Neier took some photos of the WCUFO sitting on the outside of it, as is mentioned in the material.
Thanks. Is the photo available for viewing?
Some may be online, you’ll have to search. Otherwise I probably have them in an ebook.
Maybe I’m not reading his answer correctly? Is he not saying he sat “on” the WCUFO beamship while it was in motion? Is that the same thing you are referring to about the photo??
The questioner used the word on, which Meier then accurately answered pertaining to the photos he took when sitting on the OUTSIDE of the WCUFO.
The questioner proabably meant inside, which I think Meier would have answered as being about the same as sitting…in a room, with no sensations of motion, etc.
Rob you ask a good question and frankly I don’t know why therefore if Creation could talk you will have to ask it.
But one thing is for certain when you observe the animal kingdom the aberations aren’t so pronounced as that of human being’s probably due to their instinctual nature as oppose to us having a free will to choose.
So in an of itself our misguided and misinformed ways do create unsolvable dilemas especially when man is born a women and women is born a man and men and women born as both.
Since Billy will not answer questions about his previous personalities on the Q&A, does anyone have information on where the supposition Billy was Mozart came from? I vaguely remember reading that from the FIGU forum some time ago.
Hey Rob, Well look, theres this; Someone cannot be alive and dead at the exact same time can they, lets call that rule 1 in our thinker -brain. Also there has to be a length of time doesn’t there, to live, using the average ages of the given historical time usually. And we also spend 1.52 or did atleast up until recently, the ratio of time in the living to the time in the beyond, so theres that too. So with that info we can write off quite a lot of speculation cant we.
The Nokedemion spirit was, we are told all the great prophets through out the ages, but also there is additional info, the spirit was also gallileo, merlin, and maybe some other key historical characters, but as I said before, it cannot ever be an illogical universe. Wolfgang lived 27 January 1756 – 5 December 1791. So in the investigation you conduct these dates really have to fit neatly into the narrative and the various rules (that are mildly flexible depending on length of life, age), important because your going to be wanted to work out your own past right?, to make it useful to yourself.
There is the additional information about the evolution of the face. My opinion about that is wolfgangs facial features are more befitting someone elses evolution and not Nokedemions, I could be wrong, but Nokedemion tends to have an incredibly strongly defined similarly strong features, its not exactly easy to be clear about because the artists of the day did not always paint people the way they really are, but I think mozarts face fits someone else.
I see where the idea came from, the consistency of greatness through the ages. I dont know, the short answer, but I doubt its correct, maybe I could be wrong but it seems incorrect assumption to me.
I’m not interested rob in giving people all the answers because it makes them lazy and stupid but here, providing you do your bit to verify it properly like an independent man, here: Gallileo lived 15 February 1564 – 8 January 1642 (77) , Wolfgang 27 January 1756 – 5 December 1791 (35) 53.2 years in beyond. Gallileo 117 year in beyond. So – 1642+117 = 1759 – so yes, mathematically mozart does about fit the right time frame. Gallileo was italian, wolfgang austrian, not a million miles of separation culturally. So it is plausible yes, apart from as I said about the facial features and definition features, look at the picture of gallileo, – however it is possible that the artist was not into getting it absolutely correct. But there is another thing, that mozart/wolfgang lived only 35 years, which is unusual for the lineage, but he did become ill which cut that life short. So its possible yeah, absolutely possible.
So now you work out for me Rob, how long the personality lived for between mozart and BEAM, how long did that personality live for?
You want to work this out Rob, you’re going to need some data.
BEAMs birth date
The contact report I obtained the 1.52 calculation from, your going to need that to find the additional information.
When you’ve found that, your going to need the specific world population data from 18th 19th 20th century, to ensure there is no change to that 1.52 calculation.
And finally there is another factor, you’re going to need the contact report which explains the length of life of the earth human being. You’re going to need that to ensure that what ever calculation you reach it does not become an illogically long length of life.
Thanks for answering my question Rob.
One must be careful to consider “exception(s) to the rule” stated in a recent QTB.
In the reference about “average” time in the “beyond,” it is exactly that. In light of this, the math would not be an absolute proof of the connection. However, if the birthdates actually overlapped then perhaps one can dismiss the connection altogether for the time being.
It does not appear that you made the original assertion about Mozart and Billy but I’m more interested in knowing the source of the assertion and how that came about. Many things have said by Billy informally and those things are equally important to consider.
Thank you for your feedback though. 🙂
Taken from the English FIGU Forum, this is a list fron “Corey”:
1) Socrates
2) Aristotle
3) Johann Georg Faust
4) Galileo
5) Mozart
6) Jakob Ludwig Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy
7) Grigori Jefimowitsch Rasputin
Needs further research.
“Aristotle drew a distinction between essential and accidental properties. The way he put it is that essential properties are those without which a thing wouldn’t be what it is, and accidental properties are those that determine how a thing is, but not what it is. For example, Aristotle thought that rationality was essential to being a human being and, since Socrates was a human being, Socrates’s rationality was essential to his being Socrates. Without the property of rationality, Socrates simply wouldn’t be Socrates. He wouldn’t even be a human being, so how could he be Socrates? On the other hand, Aristotle thought that Socrates’s property of being snub-nosed was merely accidental; snub-nosed was part of how Socrates was, but it wasn’t essential to what or who he was. To put it another way, take away Socrates’s rationality, and he’s no longer Socrates, but give him plastic surgery, and he’s Socrates with a nose job.”
― Thomas Cathcart, Plato and a Platypus Walk Into a Bar:
In light of the above list of incarnations, this can basically be viewed as an “inside joke.” 🙂
I’m beginning to miss your earthquake reports.
Hopefully “significant earthquakes” peter off from this point for many places sake. If I read the trends correctly it will pick up again later from August through October. 🙂
Besides CR136 line 181, was Lennon ever talked about by Meier?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwUGSYDKUxU
“Imagine”
Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today…
Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace…
You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world…
You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will live as one
And so the mystery continues … SB88 (special significance to yours truly).
Lennon is mentioned.
http://rt.com/news/212135-swastika-brazilian-swimming-pool/
Brazil, cr424.
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Bob, You know too many of the SS Ranks fleed to South America specially to Brazil and Argentina at the end of the war, that may explain tge swastika on the pool.
On another note, for my recall Billy’s spirit wasn’t Galileo, he was Copernicus instead, you can take a look at his quotes in Google, also his facial features resembles very much at Billy’s. Copernicus spend his lifetime explaining that the earth wasn’t the center of the universe but it rotates around the sun instead.
A link would be helpful as I was unable to Google up what you claimed. May be my keywords are incorrect.