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The Billy Meier UFO Case: Questions & Answers

This section will be for questions and (hopefully) answers to a wide range of topics pertaining to the Billy Meier UFO case and its relevance to the world we live in.

Questions on topics such as these and many others are welcome:

To be clear, I certainly won’t be the only one offering answers to the questions, as I know that there are many people who may be more knowledgeable about certain topics and information than I am. So obviously no one should hold back if they have an answer to a question posted here. Of course we’ll all do our best to check the accuracy of the answers as well and see how this approach goes.

Of course there already may be existing answers in the FIGU forum where Billy Meier answers questions almost every month.

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Silvana

Here’s one, please read if you have a chance, also I remember reading about Meier being Copernicus in the past, I think it was in a CR.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentric.

Rob

Also, my understanding of wiki is that it is not a reliable source as most wiki’s allow modification of content by anonymous sources especially where special counter-interests (bias) may be large in numbers.

Silvana
Rob

Sorry, I do not see specifics on either of those links you provided, unless you are simply trying to connect the facial features as a basis only.

If it was in a CR and someone actually knows where, please share. Otherwise my understanding about Galileo still stands for the time being.

Rob

In CR437,

“… that by the year 2100, in some cases, the water of the seas will rise up to 160 centimeters. [5’3″] …”

Any suggestion why the phrase “in some cases” is used? Does the sea level not rise equally across all land masses?

Daniel Zumon

Sand and earth is not a sphere

Rob

“A common and relatively straightforward mean sea-level standard is the midpoint between a mean low and mean high tide at a particular location.” — Wiki

Daniel, can you give an example how what you say may be true?

Duke

That’s pretty mean.

Rob

Yes, English is a lousy language. 🙂

Daniel Zumon

If it were a sphere then yes an even distribution is expected in physics. Earth is an oblate spheroid or an oblate ellipsoid, so this idea of the harmonic mean of the mass of the ocean sits at slightly different levels, tectonic plates move up and down too, theres a wobble in the earths orbit which will only stabilise much later after 2100, the north pole is headed toward the middle-east, the south pole toward south-most america (will end up in the endless ocean around there somewhere), by around the year 3000 for its complete move, an evolution of movement is therefore expected. Where the pole is affects where the moon is, which affects the tides, which effects the tectonic plate movements up and down, with all that erosion some places will develop colossal beaches, as we know beaches rise with the level. So thats variable 1, variable 2 is how much the ice at the poles, greenland, permafrost etc, melts in that time, so thats why its up to 160 centimetres. I think you can work it out with all these key words ive used here, I dont recommend you spend too much time on it, especially given that you wont be living at that time. 🙂

Daniel Zumon

Its probably already been properly answered if you check the various forums.

Daniel Zumon

Maybe you can tell me how it is, if you do investigate

Daniel Zumon

I wont accept an explanation that does not reference the real world, just so you know, I dont want a maths formula, if you do investigate

Rob

Ok, I see where my problem is. I assumed Billy was talking about an average rise, but he was speaking more of a maximum (“as much as”) rise, and “in some cases” would be akin to saying “in some places.” Re-reading what was said after reading some topics on sea-level rising helps:

http://epa.gov/climatestudents/impacts/signs/sea-level.html

Speaking of climate change, this link seems to confirm some of the upcoming things already prophesied by BEAM.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/24/world/gallery/climate-change-impact/index.html

Daniel Zumon

Thats right rob 🙂 . You seem like the kind of man that likes to deal directly with the source material and holds no fear of doing so, of assessing knowledge, you know that spirits dont speak (unless its in clicks) you know what the time is and you perceive your relationship with the only future.

When your ready to move out of the breast feeding data and into the more independent study sets of data, whenever that time feels right, I have a postulation that you can study in your own time;

There is more evidence to suggest the plejaren are responsible for overpopulation than the earth human alone that would otherwise have naturally been the case.

In your own time, when your ready to investigate it.

Rob

“There is more evidence to suggest the plejaren are responsible for overpopulation than the earth human alone.”

This postulation would require specific backups. If you have already shared this opinion elsewhere, it would save some time just copying and pasting the other thread(s) or pointing to it. Depending on how far up the stream you want to carry this “postulation,” it is entirely possible from a different perspective.

“Watch out for falling poops,” however. 🙂

Rob

Tonight I heard the NPR radio mentioning Obama and meditation in one sentence as I drove. Since I was not paying attention, I cannot repeat verbatim what I heard. However, it got my curiousity so I googled it.

Since Meier has spoken of him positively, the following may still be of applicable interest to some:

http://www.themeditationblog.com/barack-obama-recommends-meditation-for-republicans/

http://www.quora.com/Does-President-Obama-meditate

When I have time I will repost some of BEAM’s comments here for completeness.

Rob

In “The Deadly Might of Thoughts and Feelings,”

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Deadly_Might_Of_Thoughts_And_Feelings

Billy wrote about placebo and it’s counterpart nocebo.

For those of you with people you know who is not ready for information from Billy, but yet can benefit from this knowledge indirectly through more scientific channels, you may want to listen to Bruce Lipton’s interview on “The Science of Keeping Love Alive,” which is free on the Hayhouse summit site with a quick signup that you can cancel after listening, where he does discuss this as well without using the term nocebo. Hopefully this information helps someone you know.

Keep in mind that I am not recommending everything at the Hayhouse site, so prudence is advised when visiting.

#10

Rob

Forgot to include the link to the site:

https://www.hayhouseworldsummit.com/welcome/

#11

Rob

Since this was mentioned by Christopher R. Endler:

here Buddha is also mentioned – The human races and peoples of Earth were provided prophets from ancient days, and for this reason were sent to Earth Enoch (Henok) and Elijah (Elja), Isaiah (Jesaja), Jeremiah (Jeremja), Jmmanuel and Mohammed in direct succession and with ensuing rebirth, next to Johannes and Elijas and Hjob and all hosts of other upstanding and righteous ones, as they also were Buddha, Zoroaster and Babatschi and others.
They were all selected and led and sent partly through the JHWH and partly through themselves and in knowledge and ability as prophets or spirit leaders to the humankind and peoples of the Earth -source OM

Curious what others find revealing in this passage.

Rob

“They were all selected and led and sent through the JHWH and partly through themselves …”

with emphasis.

Aspiration?

Rob

This may be of interest to some, in my search of who “Babatschi” that the OM mentioned might have been:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavatar_Babaji

Rob

As reposted by Mėnulis Vasarojus on FB:

—–

“From Interview with Billy Meier:
Q: Isn’t a person, as an individual, powerless nowadays? Looking at all the wars and the misery on Earth, one might ask just what tangible action the individual can take.
A: The individual can do quite a bit, mainly for him- or herself, since the person is, in each and every case, closer to his or her own self than to anyone else. Therefore, the person must primarily be concerned with his/her formation and evolution, and with staying alive, of course. This, however, must take place in a way that concurs with the Creational-natural laws, and it is imperative that the individual always bears fully his/her own responsibility for each and every thought, endeavor, emotion, perception, contemplation, action, etc. Every individual must work on him-or herself and become a real human being, for it all begins with the individual – and all humanity consists of individuals. When an individual becomes a decent, rational and responsible person, the result rubs off on the next person who may then, perhaps, also become more decent, rational and responsible before, in turn, conveying these attributes to the following person, and so forth. The great human mass cannot be changed nor will the great human mass change for the better, but it is the individual who will change. And as a group they will carry their new ways, their knowledge, love, harmony, peace, and sense of responsibility into the world to the person next to them and the one beyond that. Eventually the whole thing begins to snowball. Therefore the question is not whether the individual can do anything or whether he/she is powerless. Instead we must ask: Why aren’t individuals doing something? It is really up to the individual to remedy and change the world’s ills for the better. First and foremost, such actions are based on the premise that individuals re-evaluate and work on themselves so as to turn into genuine human beings – and this can come about only when they discover the truth. Once the truth is discovered and the individual actually has become a genuine human being, he or she can do much outwardly, by gathering up all available courage and by standing up for the truth, a better life, a better world, and better contemplations and endeavors for all humanity. This includes such things as: Campaigning against overpopulation; against discrimination of women and the abuse of children; against torture and capital punishment; and the hatred against foreigners and other races. It also includes campaigning for the protection of animals, nature, our environment and Planet Earth. Ultimately, of course, this also includes lending a helping hand to one’s fellowman whenever this is possible and appropriate. Nothing can be expected from the human mass, for it is obstinately living in its same old indifference and egotistical rut. That’s why it is up to the individual to change his or her own ways and to become accessible to the truth. In so doing, he or she draws his neighbor and that neighbour’s neighbour toward the truth as well. This is the only method in existence whereby an individual can change all of humanity toward a better way of life and to maintain life and the world.”

—–

Does anyone here know if this interview was in video/audio or simply transcribed and when? Btw, I’m aware of this same page at the FIGU Canada website.

Rob

“First and foremost, such actions are based on the premise that individuals re-evaluate and work on themselves so as to turn into genuine human beings…”

with emphasis.

Rob

Unless this is already clearly and succinctly answered, perhaps the next question for Billy should be, “What is a ‘genuine human being’?”

Rob

Not sure if it can be any more direct than this:

“This is the only method in existence whereby an individual can change all of humanity toward a better way of life and to maintain life and the world.”

(see above quote for full text)

Rob

Referring to the post on 3/10 of which the answer started this way:

“The individual can do quite a bit, mainly for him- or herself, since the person is, in each and every case, closer to his or her own self than to anyone else.”

Rob

Repost of an interesting excerpt posted by RF on FB on Billy’s first book on meditation:

“The fact is, that the human being cannot perceive a large part of the reality with his/her senses. He/she is inferior to almost all animals in some respects, concerning the sense perception. In addition, concerning his/her surroundings/environment, it is a fact that each human being creates his/her own associations, predilections, aversions and other such categories. Therefore, one must be careful if one, as a human being, cries out the concept ‘reality’, because it reflects only what every human being for himself/herself accepts as real and thus as authentic. Meditation can help here, because it teaches the human being in the high Art, to ‘see’ things as they really are. Strictly speaking, meditation is a form of escape into reality and not from it.”..

Perhaps this is assuming a specific directed-form of meditation? Need to read entire passage/book for further details. 🙂

jhaag

Pope Francis’ stand on climate change deepens distrust among US conservatives http://www.nola.com/religion/index.ssf/2015/01/pope_francis_stand_on_climate.html

Rob

Even though that is not actually a question, it is encouraging to know Pope Francis is aware of the relationship between global warming and climate change. 🙂

Rob

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/16/us/antarctica-larsen-b-ice-shelf-to-disappear/index.html

by 2020.

Seems like 2020 is just going to be a very popular year to look forward to.

Rob

Interesting news and commentary here:

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/05/10/putin-hosts-huge-wwii-victory-parade.html#sthash.flUBjM1H.dpuf

“In what is seen as punishment for the Kremlin’s meddling in Ukraine, Western countries led by Russia’s World War II allies are boycotting the May 9 festivities, leaving Vladimir Putin to mark the day in the company of the leaders of China, Cuba and Venezuela.

Russia and China growing ever closer – wasn’t that what BEAM said?

jhaag

The first manned mission to Mars is planned for the 2030s. But when the first humans land on Mars, which flag will they stick in the ground? http://themindunleashed.org/2015/05/this-could-become-an-official-flag-of-planet-earth.html

Rob

Interesting passage in “Law of Love” by Billy:

“So why does marriage here on Earth work for some and not for others? In the cases where it works it could be that the husband and wife have known and loved each other in a previous life time (not necessarily as husband and wife though) and thus complement each other very well; or they have been fortunate to be compatible and have developed genuine love over time. It could also be that they just adhere to the wrong human laws, which forbid any other form of marriage, or that their cult religion forbids a separation.” (GdL, p.55)

Was there any mention about Kaliope’s relationship with Billy in a past life connection in spite of the fact her relationship with Billy was going to be difficult in this life and was already “predetermined” according to Asket?

Rob

Interesting documentary just noted on FB by MEV in light of Billy’s answers:

Tony_q (11/24/2013)
Dear Billy, I hope you are well. My question is regarding the Chinese philosophy of medicine, do you know if there are there such things as Qi (chi ) energy and meridians of energy in the human body such as claimed to be manipulated in traditional Chinese medicine?
Thank you.

Billy is not familiar with these issues.

MH (5/30/2002)
Hello Billy,

Regarding the concept of kundalini, can you explain what this actually is, if it indeed actually exists?

Salome,

Michael Horn

ANSWER: Hi Michael,
That’s something that does not exist. It’s certain people’s imagination only, as it is the case with the chakras.

Chi Energy Footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F3ovb2kZ9Q

Also interesting is the mention about the change DJ saw during meditation that was mentioned:

“… history is moving on — into great change, and the old wisdom was vanishing.”

confirms many of the things mentioned by BEAM, and CR9-185, if “old” wisdom is used as the guiding principle for laws and regulations.

“Mastering the yin chi is the key to the spiritual.”

Yin is associated with the feminine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_and_yang)

SB43 categorically dismisses the healing properties across a wide spectrum, including chakra as stated here:

http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/bulletin/2003/nr-43/geistheilung

(Google translate works pretty well)

It begs the question if one accepts these notion on face value, would one not be falling into the trap of “belief,” the same principle BEAM himself espouses?

However, one may wish to read the last two paragraph of the same section, Google translated excerpt below:

“A good and evolutionary theory teaches the people who depend on the mindfulness [of his/her] own inner self, to look after the environment, observing the creation, to study this and to practice humility and meditation. For this man does not need theories, philosophies, doctrines, esoteric or translucent psychological seminars with high-sounding names and eastern[!]. For this it already reaches a simple but extremely important tool of life, which he wears in every situation with him: The mindfulness of his breath in the “here” and “now”. This is a really great, insightful and evolutionary step towards answering many questions about the meaning of one’s life.

So has an ancient Buddhist wisdom quite valid, which says: The art is not to walk on water, but to walk with both feet on the ground.”

reference #9

Duke

Yea, well, that seems like a cheap shot at Christianity which indirectly a cheap shot at the actual Prophet’s comments when discussing Peter’s journey into the pond so to speak.

http://ca.figu.org/Q___A_-_Talmud__Jmmanuel.html
Can you explain about how the walking on the water for example was possible without prior training of Peter’s pineal gland etc? Just to note, I did consider that it was Jmmanuel’s consciousness that achieved this and not Peter’s, but in the Talmud of Jmmanuel, Jmmanuel clearly says to Peter that it was Peter’s ability that kept him from sinking (at least until he began to doubt) and therefore it seems clear to me that it was not Jmmanuel’s ability at all but Peter’s. Sorry for the long post but I wanted to be clear in my question. Thanks again Eduard and I send best regards to you and your family. -Thomas

Peter/Petrus did not use his pineal gland in that regard. He involved himself into the situation (sich in die Sache einlassen) to such a degree that he could produce the necessary vibrations (faith).
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Duke

http://www.tjresearch.info/mt14.htm

TJ 16:39-44 39And Petrus stepped out of the boat, walked on the water and approached Jmmanuel. 40But when strong thunder ripped through the howling storm, he was startled and began to sink, screaming, “Jmmanuel, help me!” 41Jmmanuel quickly went to him, stretched out his hand and grabbed him, saying, “O you of little knowledge, why are you frightened, and why do you become doubtful in your fright? 42The power of your knowledge gives you the ability, as you have just witnessed. 43You trusted in my words before the thunder came, but then you were frightened and began to doubt, and so the power of knowledge left you and your ability disappeared. 44Never doubt the power of your consciousness, which is a part of Creation itself and therefore knows no limits of power.”

Rob

I’m not understanding your statement.

What is the “cheap shot”? Which “prophet’s comment” are you referring to?

Duke

The ending to the post which went as follows:
“So has an ancient Buddhist wisdom quite valid, which says: The art is not to walk on water, but to walk with both feet on the ground.”
___

So I dug around and it appears to be somewhere attributed to a not so ancient fellow that kind of said it this way:

“The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the green earth in the present moment, to appreciate the peace and beauty that are available now.”
— Thich Nhat Hanh

http://kanoonoo.blogspot.com/2011/01/thich-nhat-hanh-quotes.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Nh%E1%BA%A5t_H%E1%BA%A1nh

So, it irked me a bit the focus on “walking on water” is not something that is common in anything except what usually happened with Jmmanuel and Peter on the boat ride. Though, usually all the other religions are only looking for dirty laundry than actually admitting to what the actual Prophets have been saying. So, I avoid trying to learn a new religion as I already grew up under one and don’t need another as a replacement.

Rob

Hmm, interesting.

Well, that “ending to the post” you spoke of is the last paragraph in the Special Bulletin #43 section on the topic of “Spiritual Healing” by BEAM himself (I provided the link in my post, though you will need to send it to a translator to read it, which I used Google). It was BEAM who quoted Buddism. As you know, Buddha existed 500 years before Jmmanuel so I don’t think the rest of the logic follows.

Based on what you wrote then, “Thich Nhat Hanh” provided a variant of that same quote, who is probably also aware of the Buddism quote. 🙂

Duke

Yes, but google translations changes if you separate the sayings. For example, from le google if you separate the commas with return keys, it would look like this:

“Die Kunst ist es nicht,
über das Wasser zu gehen,
sondern mit beiden Füssen auf der Erde zu wandern.”

which google here translates thusly as follows:

“The art is not,
to go over the water,
but with both feet to walk on Earth.”
___

So, I think the latter makes more sense of ‘going’ over water as “gehen” is translated within the comma segment. Of course, I would also question how google minimizes “zu wandern” at the end of the phrases since you could technically imply wandering the Earth which reinforces what gehen is supposed to be doing in the sentence rather than merely talking about just the act of walking.

I’m no expert in the German Language of course so this is all merely my small input here.

Duke

I also forgot that gegen, depending on how you use it, can represent “against” or being in friction with. So if I said “manner gegen panzer” it would be “man against tank”.

Rob

That is an interesting experiment. However, no modification was made on my part (should there be?) during Google translation of the FIGU article, so the context is perhaps more accurately preserved than if extra commas, ENTERS were added.

Reading it either way does not take away the focus, it appears, of what BEAM is saying.

If others who studied the requisite German for this translation is reading, please do comment. 🙂

Darcy Wade Carlile

I can walk on water if the ice is thick enough.

Rob

For a reality check: Unless you ice skate, be sure to walk with both feet on ice without skates then. 🙂