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Transhumanism and the Spiritual Teaching

Try becoming a true human being first

I am no expert in the subject of transhumanism, so if I tend to misperceive it as something other than the predictable and nearly inevitable outcome of our trendy over-fascination with technology at the expense of real consciousness related evolution, forgive or correct me.

I think this entire focus should be more correctly called dehumanism, since we’ve so far failed to become true human beings first in our headlong rush for ever more distraction, entertainment and escapism via technology. Simply being able to create more toys, sophisticated weapons and other technological marvels doesn’t guarantee consciousness related evolution.

Mental Cases

It sure seems like many of the human beings of Earth are a pretty disturbed lot, who are hell bent on fulfilling the most dismal and destructive prophecies concerning how people – who haven’t yet become true human beings – make some serious mistakes as they rush to bring their wrongly determined priorities to fulfillment.

And certainly Billy Meier’s warning about the dangers from the independent computerized weapons reinforces our concerns about the overall wrong direction in which we are headed and which, in fact, may actually already be upon us.

Fortunately there actually are a number of thinking people in the industries concerned who take a dim view of the all-embracing enthusiasm and naivette that presumes that all human problems can be solved by what still essentially are…machines. And there’s apparently a movement afoot to try to curb the wrongheaded thinking, such as is of course favored by the strictly militarily minded. I’m sure I’m not the only person who, almost 20 years ago, recognized the very military implications in even the earliest video games, which have no “evolved” to the point of truly subhuman sadism, violence, etc.

So while we aspire to be like the Plejaren apparently are, in terms of having android beings that serve and interact with their human population and have a kind of consciousness, projections as to when we could accomplish this kind of scenario don’t take into account the huge disparity between our consciousness-related/spiritual development and the responsibilities of effectively creating machines that will then take over our lives. And with some of the negative human traits already in evidence pertaining to the ability of robots to lie to each other there is much to be concerned about.

The Spiritual Teaching

This is a good place to note that not only would we have to somehow imbue machines with certain moral and ethical operating systems but that the things that make human beings actually far more than machines aren’t always recognized and valued even now.

So what are the elements of the spiritual teaching pertaining to all aspects of our consciousness related evolution that are at risk of not being developed by us in time to assure truly responsible actions in every step of the creation of advanced robots and androids? Is it already a forgone conclusion that, if we don’t wipe ourselves off the face of the Earth before we manage to perfect this technology (whatever that may mean), that we will eliminate ourselves because we succeeded in this dubious, premature technological development in which the creations destroy their creators…as per the prophecies?

 

Thanks to Schantz Scott, Michael Helfert, Anthony Hall, Marc

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vincentg

Hi Michael,I consider myself a transhumanist,I completely agree that being able to create technological marvels doesn’t guarantee consciousness related evolution.there are many transhumanist thinkers that are discussing the benefits and threats of transhumanist technologies,i would recommend these places for interviews with various thinkers: http://www.youtube.com/therationalfuture , http://www.youtube.com/ndanaylov many of them,naturally,are unaware of the spiritual teachings and are most likely entrenched in inadequate materialist philosophies,but I believe continued discussion is beneficial.i do believe these technologies should be responsibly and cautiously pursued but we shouldn’t shy away from radical enhancement if it benefits us and has no dangers.the Plejaren have strongly advocated for genetic technology to eliminate illness and our inherited degeneration from the creator-overlords(correct me if that’s the wrong group).genetic technologies are a fundamental transhumanist goal,which is one reason why I support it.transhumanist philosophy seems to be largely materialist in value therefore many self proclaimed transhumanists will lack the spiritual development if they focus exclusively on it and ignore the spiritual teachings.

vincentg

There is of course extensive discussion by transhumanists on the possibility of catastrophic artificial intelligence,the most alarmist individual is a person named Hugo de garis,he wrote a book detailing a possible scenario in which machines become more intelligent than humans,he calls the problem “species dominance”,the machines exterminate humans because we’re a nuisance to them.the book is called “the artilect war”, artilect = artificial intellect,his opinions are not taken seriously by the largely optimistic transhumanist community,there are a few individuals trying to create “friendly” AI or AGI(artificial general intelligence),Steve Omohundro and Ben Goertzel,the goal is to create compassionate machines with moral values.Hugo doesn’t believe this is possible.the debate rages on.

vincentg

Thanks for the link to the “killer robots” article.

vincentg

i have doubts about machines becoming more intelligent than humans,i speculate that advances in neuroscience and synthetic neurobiology will push human intelligence far past machines,but here Hugo de Garis describes the possible events that will unfold if we move toward machine superintelligence: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=b-cOipzmFhg

vincentg

Yeah i realized that,they could be far less intelligent and still be a threat,but the reasoning is that they would be manageable if they were less intelligent,if they’re smarter we wouldn’t have much chance of surviving if they wanted us gone,that’s why the focus is there.there definitely should be caution in creating them at any intellectual level.

Bruce

I don’t even like the sound, the tonality or the vibe of such a name … I’ll stick with the Spiritual Teaching put forth by Meier i.e. humaneness in the real and true sense, thank you very much

Maxime Bergeron Falardeau

Uncontrolable killing machines. ( “Computer like” /robots/clones/drones etc…)

If such a scenario occur… and lets say machines get out of control due to human stupidity… Does a MASSIVE solar erruption directed to Earth, would eventually stop the computer like annihilating machines devoided of any feelings and consciousness…could a massive solar erruption saves our butts from those robots that could destroy this planet pretty quickly, in a matter of days( I guess), especially if we give them the ability to reconstruct and duplicate, autonomously etc… isshhh… (with our own “codes/instructions” that is not necessaraly a good one, based on the very low spiritual development in the Western Countries/USA and others)

I prefer having to face some nuclear central blasting over the globe then the whole planet exploding in smithereens or completely covered with robot pieces and robot weapons. there is not much humans that would survive this scenario… I fear.

So that is why I was questionning myself earlier this month after having read the “Billy Meier Accurately Predicted Recent Dangerous Solar Activity” blog.
and also after trying to make sens of the translated extract from the 515th contact repport.

I was thinking could extraterrestrial forces interveen by provoquing a massive solar erruption that would probably, in my thoughts, put an alt(stop) those machines that would have become incontrolable for us. Because the solar erruption does not seem to be in the prophecies anywhere, Ptaah stated that the solar erruption is NOT a prediction either… So what is it.. it’s a … possibility… ?!

“” But that happening is only a possibility and does not correspond to a prediction, because it still is not certain what will occur when the activity wakes the Sun from its slumber.””

What will occur and when will it occur, if it occurs at all…?

So yea, what do you guys think of this crazy thinking of mine…
oh yeah and …
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“”And at this time, the possibility could become reality that extraterrestrial forces intervene against the Western industrialised countries, because these will be responsible for the extreme and enormous disaster of the coming evil times. These extraterrestrial forces will give up their anonymity and their state of secrecy and will assist those who are being terrorised by the irresponsibly acting Western countries, should this possibility become reality. In addition, apocalyptic natural catastrophes will occur which will cause all of Europe to shake and tremble; but Europe will continue to exist, even after having suffered enormous destruction.””
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if this possiblity becomes reality, who are the extrateretrials mentioned in the henoch prophecies, are they the Plejarens “Humanitarians” themselfs or others… and what do you think they will conduct as an intervention (only IF “they” have to) to assist those who are being terrorised by the irresponsibly acting Western contries..

In other words:
Which E.T.s do you think will interveen, and what do you think they would do in such an intervention? only if they have to…

I was also questioning, if a kid or let’s say me as a “gamer”, play or practice in space war realistic online computer game or any other ONLINE “war” games, is there a possibility that I am participating without even knowing in REAL physical wars raging here on Earth or in different worlds or in sapace (time) through some type of “re-connection” or “reality-augmentation” or some sick technology… you know what I mean…? I mean in reality not in “cyber space/”…

I’m personally am very good against “AI’s”, cause their is always a way to “glitch” them but will we be able to make the difference anymore, what if we use young amateur gamers into “computer-like” weapons… unwittingly…
sick.

[m.b.f.]

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

Interesting? Yeah for Star Trek. Here is the flaw with the MBF thinking:

“I was thinking could extraterrestrial forces interveen by provoquing a massive solar erruption that would probably, in my thoughts, put an alt(stop) those machines that would have become incontrolable for us.”

The MBF needs to study the concept of self-responsibility. The ETs would never intervene on Earth unless it effected other planets, systems. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE for creating and putting down our problems. If we always look to the heavens for salvation, we will never think for ourselves; we will be trapped stagnant in religion waiting…. waiting for ETs, waiting for translations, waiting for Billy’s answer this month, waiting to learn German, waiting for UFOCI to wake up, waiting to apply simple and easy spiritual ideas. Waiting? Stop bleeping waiting. WE are in CONTROL.

iamaphoney

Carolyn

I’m thinking (sarcastically) that if the ETs could vaporize a few ISIS fighters it might not be a bad thing for the rest of the world. . . . just painlessly evaporate them. . . . they won’t even know what happened!

Maxime Bergeron Falardeau

You are a “phoney” one!

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

Now you guys are getting it.
iamaphoney

Maxime Bergeron Falardeau

| Lui qui est incongru. |

I’m guessing here, if the machines takes control over the Earth very quickly… then the machines would also probably be capable of spreading to other planets or system also very quickly… when are we going to reach that “treshold” and are we really going to commit global suicide, if we push our imbecility that far… I think we are capable of destroying an entire planet, And millions of pieces of planet Earth going in all direction into the cosmos is a quite huge catastrophie for the whole system and perhaps also other systems. (Thinking of the asteroid belt AKA as pieces of Malona/Phaeton.)

If the E.T.s (human from other worlds) are watching on US, when will they judge that human stupidity on Earth have come waaaay too far and they must stop our machines before it’s start spreading to other regions of space. voila!
Human thinking is full of flaaaws 😉

I’m not counting on any savior to save my butts, I know we can solve this problem pretty easilly, but who his in controls of the MACHINA right now?
Those who are conducting evil machinations I guess!

ANd yeah… your name sounds realy funny and you failed to answer any of my questions, I have a easy question for you:
What’s your name Phoney one?

Maxime.

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

Hi Maxime,

Thank you for addressing me personally. I am indeed phoney and so are you. It has to do with the law of contrariness. Think of it as polar opposites. You sir for example are a bright individual with a passion for science fiction, me too. I probably watched Star Wars movies hundreds of times. But do I know science fiction? I may have grown up on Kirk and Spock, raised on Apollo and Starbuck battling the Cylons, graduated with Quantum Leap, and living on Fringe, but I don’t know bleep. Despite being a Star Wars expert, with the rest of the small stuff, I have a lot to learn or experience in science-fiction yet. I know and I do not know at the same time. The law of contrariness is kinda like a safety switch. Just when we think we are hot bleep; someone or something comes along and knocks us off our pedestal. But when a human is modest of his/her successes, and mindful of correcting flaws…. you are prepared and able break the falls. So being mindful of polar opposites, like your strength vs your weaknesses, allows you to see a clearer, more accurate picture of yourself, and you come off more balanced to your peers.

So that is why I am phoney. And I love the Beatles.

Cheers,
Anthony

Maxime Bergeron Falardeau

Hello Anthony aussi connu sous le nom de ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ.

Thanks for giving me your name, it’s really kind of you and shows great respect towards me and this community. But that makes me wonder: Are you also the guy named UFOnthony talking on other blogs??

I would prefer to ask you this more personally somewhere else than on MH blog, But… I don’t know “who” you are yet. You can write me a message of FB or you can e-mail me at: bergeron.falardeau.maxime@gmail.com. But if you feel like telling this community your whole name, please do it. Is it too much to ask? Also If you want to speak for me about my passions and interest and my knowings I would prefer you get to know me first. ( I have a passion for computers and also wood-working, the universe and many others.) You can click on my whole name at the top of my comment it will direct you to my open Facebook profil where you can get to know me first. And perhaps we could become friends. I’m 28yo and I onced loved watching sc-fi movies, but not anymore. And I’ve never really watched Star-Trek nor Star wars… So you lost me there.

I also love the music group: Linkin Park
Salome.
Maxime

Note to MH: I know this is out of topic and also not a place for chit-chat but I don’t know where to adresse Anthony, so I’m doing it on this blog. And I hope we can deepen our knowledge for eachother. Thanks

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

Maxi,

“I don’t know “who” you are yet. You can write me a message of FB or you can e-mail me at: bergeron.falardeau.maxime@gmail.com. But if you feel like telling this community your whole name, please do it. Is it too much to ask? Also If you want to speak for me about my passions and interest and my knowings I would prefer you get to know me first.”

Are you looking for a date? I am pretty open minded, you should notice;)

If you and the community can’t figure out who I am by linking all the clues on this board and the figu forum, then doyoufigure still. I am easy to see. I have been to a few MH study groups, I have studied for years. The community knows who I am. Now go walk backwards over there. Think of it as Beatles clues for you. One of the reasons I find the Meier case fascinating is because I like searching for clues and putting the bigger picture together. I gave you a big clue with NEW. Do you know the song? Google it and and it will lead you to a topic, and iamaphoney is a sub-topic of this topic. Please, dear, get me that puzzle piece over there.

Cheers,
iamaphoney
iamaphoney
iamaphoney

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

“One of the reasons I find the Meier case fascinating is because I like searching for clues and putting the bigger picture together.”

He started it! And as usual you are not seeing reality. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. People need to learn how to figure things out on there own. This is relevant to spiritual.

Maxime Bergeron Falardeau

Anthony
As if I had the time and desire to play your “guess who I am” little game.
Humanity is at stake. And you are clearly not making a friend out of me, you better stay hidden, cause if I meet you face to face one day, you would not act that much silly with me.

In the end.
So you better stay hidden from me, my final suggestion.
I won’t lose time with you anymore, and just keep on using different names, and thinking you are helping the cause, as if we need a little teacher like you.
MBF

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

Horn,

Are you bleeping blind? This MFB just issued a veiled threat. Now you know, why I like to play harmlessgame and not make it transparent for all the crazy Meierites (fading religious), organized religious, mentally dependent, sociopaths, and the like.

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

“play” it completely straight since people can and do misinterpret all this online stuff…”

Horn, you are a fool. You really are. I have done my best to post spiritual explanations, comments, examples, etc., on your blog. This has not been phoney… phony. You know who I am, I’ve been invited to the potluck. Stop railroading me because I speak my mind. I could give a bleep about your little UFO cult that is happening here in the moment; I know Figu people will continually shed their religion and this place, the Figu, will be full of people in line with the spirit teaching. I am on your holy blog to demonstrate the dangers of religion, the dangers of overpopulation, the need for self-responsibility, the need to figure things out for yourself by putting pieces together from various texts, etc. So we have common goals but we don’t live in the same house. Why can’t we be friends?

iamaphoney

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

Dear Michael,

I have not called anybody a name. And Everything I have said, in my limited Earth human, full of mistakes and in need of repair ability, is useful to understanding the truth of the situation. Even “sweetcheeks” should have been a give away for being the wildebeest in the example before. If it goes over your head, I’m sorry; and you do NOT support anything I say because we think completely differently. I do not understand why you fill your day with UFOIC ring battles, and you do not understand why I play around with clues for trivial things like my real name on a public internet forum to inspire thinking. I am not a FaceBook super model, I’m sorry I do not like the machine. People should be respectful of this. What is not a joke is that there is discussion of the topics; and we are doing that at times. I am doing my best, remember I am a phoney, fool like you.

How is it that as a student of the teaching can not appreciate the law of contrariness in action? I have been trying to be fun and entertaining. I have been trying to be contrary with a contrary name. At almost any other forum, this would NOT be a problem. In fact, some people would kick out of it. Yet here at the religious farm, unless my full name is transparent here, people can not put any credibility into anything I have to say? Are you serious? People have to wade through nonsense to find sense in the real world. If you are not seeing pieces of truth in what everyone has said you are not doing it right, in my phoney opinion. Did you not get my last to the Dukester. The Dukester is meant as an endearment. The problem with you. No the problem with Figu, and you are just one of their robots, is that the people at the front door are ALWAYS on the defensive, and of superior understanding. You silly man, you act like I just was born yesterday to the Figu womb and that I am harming your holy board by being creative with names and words, sometimes devoid of language to prove a point. Hahahahahah (I’m sure there are a lot of bright people in TheyFly blog country that only read and do not show their faces).

A friend is someone who tries to see the truth in another person, and offers acceptance. How is this conversation, this way you see things about internet privacy, my safety, show acceptance? You never approve of ME!!!! No matter what, I post my heart out and the small minded Figu people here, you know who you are if you are honest with yourself, do everything to see me as a threat or a so-called Figu expert trying to be a know-it-all. I am a phoney. iamaphoney iamaphoney iamaphoney Find the truth in my work or don’t. That is your responsibility. Do NOT trust a name or a face to gather truth. Trust in your ability to find the truth in what people are saying. THIS IS HUGE. Go ask Billy if you need help with this.

Maybe, MH, you don’t “railroad me;” I might have been giving you too much credit.

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

“See if you can identify the issues INSIDE YOURSELF that leads to your getting so upset, feeling angry, disrespected, etc. – maybe BEFORE you start complaining, etc”

Again, my dear Michael Horn you are not seeing reality. I think I see the situation. You think that I am an angry moron, and that makes you feel better? I have been silly, I have been bleeping with you, I have been laughing as I write my bleep down. I am not an angry person, all the time. Yes I get angry. But not regularly and not now. I am not complaining. I am identifying, or trying to, an error and pointing it out so that YOU CAN MODERATE CRAZY PEOPLE WHO MAKE THREATS. Plus this is fun. Don’t work so hard; you usually don’t consider it work when it is among friends….

Cheers and be well. All the best luck,
Anthony

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

MH,

The funny thing I have been on topic the whole time. I have been talking about robots, and programs. The problem with people relying on technology and machines, is that they can become dependent on them. Just like Meier students can become dependent, and still be locked into religion or stagnation with the Figu materials. This is why people are not regularly seeing the truth in each others comments, they are waiting for a big name to show up or a leader to drop down from heaven. People have to study and apply the information, make mistakes with it and make corrections, to make a better world and humanity.

So if a machine does not make MISTAKES, and is ‘perfect,’ how can it be contrary or more to the point have a programing ability to see both sides of the situation to be balanced and in line with Creational directives?

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

Dear Michael,

Awesome article! My opinion is that the whole idea of machines becoming smarter than man and taking over human beings is already part of the mainstream thinking among the public. The Terminator movies hit that idea home. So this idea of robots taking over and wiping out man is already part of the mass consciousness, when you factor in disciplines like transhumanism, the idea is out there that we better have a safety switch. I agree with you the spirit teaching must be our primary goal; and our technology should carry out/provide for Creational directives.

“So what are the elements of the spiritual teaching pertaining to all aspects of our consciousness related evolution that are at risk of not being developed by us in time to assure truly responsible actions in every step of the creation of advanced robots and androids?”

In my phoney opinion, there are many. But the number one, imo, to keeping a logical order to how far a robot can go, with regard to human beings and other lifeforms is the law of love. Take for example, a lioness knows how chase down and kill prey; to the naked eye, this might seem terrible for the wildebeest, and even a bad thing. This faulty view of love, one sided for the wildebeest, to not consider the lioness who is natural in her actions as she hunts down to feed herself, her mate and cubs. Unless human beings grasp the concept of ONE, that we are part-pieces of the whole, and not thinking only for ourselves (the wildebeest). The wildebeest herd needs to be thinned by the lioness to keep the population in check. Billy Meier’s definition of love: “Love is the absolute certainty that one lives with and coexists with everything, thus, in everything which exists: In fauna and flora, in the fellow humans, in every material and spiritual life-form, no matter which kind, and in the existence of the entire universe and beyond.”

In my phoney opinion, humans need to acquire a universal understanding and love; once we are doing this we are not beating up our neighbor, because we realize that when we hurt our neighbor, we hurt ourselves and the rest of Creation. This needs to part of the programing for AI in robots, drones, etc. to prevent a machine from killing everything in sight when it has the tech and firepower to do it.

Duke

No more doh and the worf examples, now it’s lionel train sets with your version of some phantom ONE that does not fit into Billy Meier’s teachings. Sounds like a repeat from a previous blog:
https://theyflyblog.com/thriving/05/03/2014

Qui bono?

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

You are a phoney, sweetcheeks!

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

Okay phony Duke,

Here is the “phantom ONE that does not fit into Billy Meier’s teachings” according your your phony knowledge:

“Talmud of Jmmaunuel”

Chapter 145

35. “Just as Creation is one within itself, however, so is all life, being and
existence one within itself.

36. “It is by the law of Creation that all humans, plants, animals and all
life are one in themselves.

37. “A person may believe that everything is two or three, but that is not
so, because everytiiing is ONE.

38. “Whatever people believe to be two or three is actually ONE, so they
should make everything that is two or three into ONE.

39. “Since the spirit in a person is part of Creation, it is one with
Creation; consequently it is not two.

40. “And since the body is a part of the spirit in a different form and
matter, it is therefore one with the spirit; consequently it is not two.

41. “The teachings state that there is a unity and not, in any way or
form, a duality or trinity.

Duke

One of self-responsibility and being and evolution, not one of some mere “ONE” like it’s the overriding buzz word of the day. Also, your examples are based on natural examples devoid of those that actual have the being-consciousness.

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

“ONE” like it’s the overriding buzz word of the day…”
GOOD. Now we are getting somewhere….
Cheers!
iamaphoney

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

Duke,

Yes it dawned on me. Now I see your confusion. When I highlight ‘one’ by doing all caps it was not to single out these particular places in the verse. I did ONE to place emphasis. So please, there is no “mere ONE”. ALL the ‘one’ in all the sentences are referring to the same one. There is only one one. I’m sorry for any confusion. It took me time to find the verse for you, and I was in a hurry for appointment so I only ONE the handful, but I see now I should have left it alone or done them ALL. See how awesome I am?

Duke

You say you’re a phoney so why should I trust you?

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

“You say you’re a phoney so why should I trust you?”

The Dukester, that is your best question yet! Why should you trust me? Don’t! Trust yourself!!! That is how this works. I write something and it is up to you to read it and determine if there is any sense is in it, based on your knowledge and wisdom. Don’t ever follow me. After all, what do I know? Just like you, I know bleep.

Carolyn

Hey, I am a religious person, a Roman Catholic believer and I also believe that the Plejarans are real people and I believe everything Billy Meier tells us he has experienced over the past 60 years. Stop “dissing” everybody who does believe in God. . . . . Religion is protection, not enslavement, at least not in the Christian Catholic world view.

David Scott

I have to say I really love the internet . This web of information is quite massive and we have immediate access . This frightens those trying to control , not lead . Leaders have morals , act with the decisive role of providing a positive outcome for the benefit of all . Obviously we have a shortage of them in the spotlight . Or in significant realms of control . The overlords(pure evil humans) have been behind the scenes for a good millenium trying to control the populous and outcomes and they are an easy one millenium of those who think they figured it out . The levels of madness to control involve those sick video games . I saw them back then and said , I’m running the other way . I think I was equally as scared of heroin and the nuclear film Trinity .

We programed millions of kids to play military games to get them to the point that killing was beyond satisfying anymore . Killing every monster , human , political figure , friend , until it all became numbing so they were lead to the military for the potential to kill for real or just throw their life away and try it at the mall parking lot . So the psychological spectrum is just massively astray when you begin to think about what happens to man when they become disinterested in extreme things . You read the Plejaran comment alot about mans insanity and insane sports , like motorsports . I was a fan of all that , participating myself even , then I realized from the outside looking in . A perspective excercise and was , like I might as well be playing a great teaching game like Grand Theft Auto , learning how to survive zombie apocolypse .

The Contact page where the wartime engineering involved designed warriours designed and trained to be callous killers is invoked now so the bio and computer merge is ongoing with chips and I suppose Pigs are the dna of choice and they are nasty when they get mad . Al Queda and ISIS or IS has an engineered killing batallion . They do 300 a day sometimes , but people are not protesting that like they do in Ferguson St. Louis .

So , you have all this information at your fingertips and you still have to have to know how to use it . And I think until the human is capable to attain the simple reasoning skill to seek truth , discerne it , apply it , cherish it , harbor it and grow it we will have a moral logjam . The population bomb is being dealt with . By those in huge towers and amidst huge personal bunkers . We in the ant farm are not aware of those outside looking in yet and the pantry full of tools to control us sicklings .

So transhumanism is a think tank topic , but its already a widespread technology that exists in the hands of the banksters and elite . Just like the solutions to the problems , they are not ready to be used yet . They need more room on the planet yet for those gems to surface .

If you come to terms with the level of the disinformation and control campaign you can be shocked into the serious level of digging deep enough to just start to save yourself . Think the Jakob Krutsfeld virushad been planted in you through meat consumption by age ten , your lucky for a quality forty years after that . Flouride in the water dropping your IQ another fifty points , your never going to attain the difficult focused brain quotient of say twenty percent to just keep pace with the evil . Do you realize at nine billion people we can only contract we cannot grow . Thats why everything is in dissaray . The think tank that precedes transhumanism is regarding the implication of machines in manufacturing . Take the auto industry . Detroit tells its inhabitants to go out and buy yourself guns . While in Alabama I believe that their is a seven mile long Toyota robot factory . So your factory in job futures and people are replaced by manufacturing robots . Essentially lessening the need for people . Shrinking jobs . and its all downhill .
Nuclear weapons are to kill both people , and machines . One fifty megaton nuke over Oklahoma say fifteen miles high could take out the entire power grid . And the machines . Just like a solar CME can .So the native americans had it right , one person per ten square miles , plant , harvest , steward the planet , your loved ones and leave the place better than you found it . Until we figure that out think about this . How much the Plejaran have not shared with us because we are not capable yet . They are just trying to keep this thing from getting into their backyard . The machines we are worried about are made by madmen . The aliens and observers are here to keep an eye on these madmen . Have you ever seen the crop circle carved in three dimension in England with the alien holding the globe and the binary code carved in it . Its a clear indication we are being watched and rightly so . We are full on liability as a people . As a neighbor as it stands today .

David Scott

During think tanking here , I have a speck of hope to comment on . Its after this mention of Lucy Pringle and her cropcircle site , its very awesome . Ok the idea that the many who are involved in many of these ongoing crimes are getting very old , like George Soros who is almost ninety and Warren Buffet and The Wrothchiles and Morgans and even Bush Seniou and the trove of hellions we all know of . Hopefully , Hopefully before they die they have a moral change of heart and actually ADMIT to what they have done . This has been a huge mystery to me as to why all this goes on and legacies pass and no mention . If you shot someone unjust or was part of this so called conspiracy . Why is their not more admissions . So I will speculate , until we have more deathbed admissions the populous will have trouble finding the absolute truth sometimes . Like Disney saying , yes I shot the moon landing . Or Warburg saying yes I created the Federal Reserve to control the world . It has to happen . Snowden and Assange are modern heroes for doing what they did . Its not anti country . Stuff was wrong . So until we get somebody to do some actual investigating and actual prosecution going on in this world . How many lawyers are out there ? Plllleeeeaaaasssseeeeee!!!
Creation and Transhumanism is like an oxymoron . Much of nature is imperfect , but a 1 and 0 codelink is on pace with pie . 3.14//////. Seems syntax is perfect and a clone . But we make mad calculations with an imperfect number . Until the bridge of explaining the large and microscopic unite ,man is using a broken blackboard and a pencil ereasor . Vibrational mathematics and the tau are close . But we still scare other solar systems from afar ? yeah , we are that nuts …oh don’t forget arrogant. We know this , we know that .

robert forrest

We are screwed, every witch way you think about it. If the machines take over.

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

Hi Robert,

You are right; and the machines have already taken over. MH has pointed out time and time again that these pod people are plugged into their iPods, but more likely their smart phones. They have no idea, it WOULD SEEM, of their outside world and surroundings; these pod people as MH calls them are just plugged into nonsense. Violent video games, again this is a problem. The tech is not the problem; it is the people who are irresponsible by selling death and killing.

But if you are a student of the spirit teaching, you have to find that neutral-positive-equalized balance. The flip side to complaining about iPods, and iPhones, and tablets, and all these silly gadgets that people are lost with, this technology, if used responsibility, and what I mean by that people are conscientious about their selves and their families, their planet, these mini computers/communicators/entertainment/safety units are a logical and handy device. Just as with video games, the flip side is that these tasks do build hand & eye coordination… that could train peace fighting troops, police, and pilots. Not all video games are violent. We need to highly regulate and depopularize violent killing games in the hands of children, and unhealthy adults. Super Mario, for example, which has an enormous following is puzzles and mazes with cute little characters that are not only fun, but harmless when used responsibility… again in the hands of a conscientious child or adult. Again, self-responsibility keeps popping up in the spirit teaching. See how foundational and important trying to understand self-responsibility is? This is a large part to becoming familiar and independent with the spirit teachings, putting ‘self-responsibility’ into your factoring of EACH situation. Then you are getting closer to being in line with the teaching in your everyday life.

daniel

Meh, you’ve just gotta take life as life comes and do your best. How has it ever been different as far as you can remember? If you let death scare you, then you can’t fearlessly and truly live. A lifetime in Earth terms is pretty damn short. In 1000 years we (not “we” but we as in whoever we’ll be then) will all look back and wonder what the big deal ever was, just like we look back at history’s tough times without too much suffering. The natural laws which are outside of humanity’s control are also working in our favor even through all of the destructive stupidity so there’s scarce little to worry about. Look at the spirit teaching. It’s all about evolution. The timing is fantastic right now, the design of the whole learning process works in our favor and so on and so forth. The is nothing not working in our favor where learning is concerned. Even religion through all of its insanity. What better way to contrast ideas with each other? Great time to be alive with internet access and ability to challenge your old ideas with new ideas. Here you are on this forum.

You’ve just gotta look through the noise and see where things are inevitably going, the lessons we’ll inevitably learn and grow from. The fact that we will inevitably grow through the lifetimes and that there’s nothing at all stopping that from happening is written everywhere. Yes it takes turmoil to learn from if we are truly ignorant. But hey, appreciate that that’s exactly what people are getting. The fruits of their labor. Would you have it any other way? If the laws of physics didn’t deliver to us what we enact through our ignorance or wisdom of those laws then that would be a truly disastrous and boring situation. Pointless existence.

Life is just a giant physics lesson. Go along with it and stay honest. Smile. You have nothing to cry about. Do you remember dying last lifetime? Probably not. So what makes you think dying this time will be any more of an inconvenience? Just take it as it comes. It’s all there for a reason. There is nothing that doesn’t make sense in the universe. Even contradictory stupidity. Enjoy it. It gives you ample opportunity to learn from and compare ideas.

David Scott

http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/articles/crabwood/#

If you have not seen it , goosebumps will follow .

I sent Mufon some nice guy communication in Florida and used this article to prove a point …..

http://www.infowars.com/the-real-men-in-black-hollywood-and-the-great-ufo-cover-up/

basically says the government has lied for 40 years so mufon could get it finally . But they are the same it appears , I got brushed off so bad .

But these are Lucy Pringles arials of just a hint of an eyeball on us . Emf can apparently make these formations , and so can with sand on rice paper with frequency induced . But faces , messages . thats pre trans .

Matt lee

David, Dyson would be the best person to speak about that particular crabwood crop circle/formation/field form etc.
There is good out there conduit closing

Kevin

I came across this quote, that reminds me in “so many ways” of the Spiritual Teachings.

“You always need a scapegoat, so you go down until you can find a scapegoat that you can hammer without any retribution to yourself. Then you get some high priest, from some university with a PHD (professor this or that) to tell you that “it’s all fine” Well he’s a joke, You Don’t Need That….You Can Think It Through Yourself.”
Peter Ravenscroft- Environmentalist

J. Smith

The movie starring Will Smith called I-Robot was a great look at how things can go haywire. Maybe the writer was onto something all along.

flapjack

That’s where we are headed in the first place!

Jeremy Gearhart

“Simply being able to create more toys, sophisticated weapons and other technological marvels doesn’t guarantee consciousness related evolution.”

I will have to disagree with the above statement MH. CR251 states that the “robot people” could/will do exactly that with their consciousness energy generators which result from experiments with advanced cybernetic systems. “All of this will allow the forces of the consciousness to perform at record levels”.

Now having said that I think we need to take a step back and examine our own role in guiding this foray into the future. Just like with GMO or any advanced/advancing technology there is a tremendous opportunity for horrifying misuse. When we wail, gnash our non-fluorinated teeth, and pour organic ash on our heads we ourselves become complaisant in the abuse of such expanding and utterly inevitable advancements.

For all the harm that this “new” knowledge does, the transhumanists are some of the most creative and open people about potential benefits and complications(in terms of technology).
We were given these warnings about the future so that we could face it, not merely hide from it. It’s time to move this planet from “Intellectual Life” to “Real Life”.

Don’t like the way video games are written? Offer more creative and beneficial games to the gaming community. Teach them to work together towards a positive common goal.

Don’t like the idea of military robots or AI? Support research into positive aspects of the technology such as education, entertainment, and exploration.

Being a hopeless optimist, I hope to see more collaboration between different “warring factions of the internet”. When spiritualists, UFOlogists, transhumanists, gamers, and hackers start learning from each other rather than trashing or ignoring one another, we’ll hopefully see a surge of cooperation in the public field of technology rather than just our dangerous/(ultimately)unproductive military applications.