This particular blog will be a place, or forum, for discussing meanings in the various texts in the Billy Meier case, including from the spiritual teaching, contact notes, etc. People can interact here to offer their opinions, attempts to clarify, agree or disagree about the meanings.
This will allow a bit more digression from other specific topics, though it won’t be a place for personal attacks, occultism, conspiracies, etc. The comments should be in reference to the content of the Meier material.
Please submit any rejected posts hre that fall under this category.
All this talk on women wearing make up? i think we really do have bigger problems on this planet to occupy our thoughts with, i do remember something i had read in the contacts that Plejaren women also have a right to a small bit of vanity as i feel we also do.I also agree that i think there is a huge difference between a small amount of make up to flatter oneself compared to being made up very heavily with makeup caked on so as to obscure any natural features and beauty.I do remember reading though that the plejaren as well as Billy think lip-stick is yuck! I feel as a women that we all still are living in a world were it is expected of us from society to present ourselves still , to be “pleasing” on the eye, and i do not feel at this stage in our evolution that this includes being all naturalal. I know just how frowned upon from acquaintances when one states that they will let their hair go grey when the time comes,some people just have such a hard time coming to grips with that !
I feel like any discussion is a good thing,but i think it is very sad when the discussion starts getting “personal”, as we are all on the same side as someone previously posted,and lets face it….we are few and far between still at this stage,it would be a fine thing if we could all at least maintain some peace and harmony…don’t you think ?
Salome
Debbie 🙂
Debbie, Remember that the Plejarens live to be well over 1,000 or more years old as compaired to us primitive humans on earth. For me personally gray hair is a negative symbol of old age of which I HATE and find very very depressing because on earth is very every short. Don`t forget what Ptaah and Quetzal told Billy some time ago that humans on earth are missing a third strand of DNA which means a shorter life-spand compaired to us primitive illoigical human beings. Also most of the human race on earth are STILL praying and believing in such STUPID FICTIONAL god and a FICTIONAL Jesus who we all know is REALLY IMMANUEL! ” It boggles my mind to wonder if this world will EVER grow up and out of this stupid religious corporate political malarkey that is just ruining this world into a third world war etc,etc,etc!”
Terry,
I don’t recall anything about missing a third strand of DNA. And let’s remember that the Plearen also acquire gray hair and other effects of aging. Meier has also said that we should just let ourselves wear the faces we have with the marks and lines we’ve acquired from our lives and experiences.
There is no “third strand of DNA” (?!), but genes that cause accelerated aging, as well as genes that cause aggression, which were originally programmed into our ancestors’ genome in the Sirius region in order to produce psychopathic warriors, as they were themselves unable to fight. The shortened lifespan was in order to protect the original Sirians from these warriors by preventing them from reaching a high level of development of their potential of consciousness, etc. However, that eventually happened anyway with the Aryans on Earth, with a lifespan of upwards of 2,000 years and a rather psychopathic mentality.
Matthew, Please clarify the connection between the genetically manipulated peoples with their shortened lifespans and the Aryans ” with a lifespan of upwards of 2,000 years”. It’s helpful to link to where info can be found.
Fellas, there is some confusion here.
I have a medical sort of background, and keep a sharp(er) eye out for medical info in the contact reports.
This is my take:
We humans are aware of 2 strands of genetic information.
A single strand is called RNA – single strand of Ribo Necleaic Acid.
A double strand of RNA is called DNA – Deoxyribo Nucleaic Acid.
If we found the thrid strand, it would likely be called TNA – Trio somethingsomething.
The contact reports (I think it was Ptaah) said that a 3rd strand will be discovered by humans.
So think of it like watching a movie. You have the video strand (strand 1) the audio strand (strand 2) and the subtitles strand (strand 3).
We humans know how to take someones cellular material, pop it open, put it under a microscope, and look at strands 1 and 2 – like watching the video and listening to the audio – but we havn’t figured out how to see strand 3 – the subtitles.
A “gene” is just one bit in the whole setup. As an analogy, whoever changed the genes made it so that the whole movie played in “fast forward”.
We humans have done this to mice, by playing with these things at the ends of DNA strands called “telomeres” and the molecule that governs them, called “telomerase”.
We took mice, altered their telomerase, which affected their telomeres, and turned mice with old bodies into mice with young bodies. Technically the mice were still old, but they were old with bodies of young mice.
So, if our scientists were more interested in actually doing good things with science instead of just discovering one little piece of it so as to win a Nobel Prize so that they could sit back while others bowed down to their awesomeness, then they could probably isolate and manipulate the problematic genes of still living humans reasonably easily.
But no, our world is so driven by ego and desire for fame that the — — — USE of science comes second to being rich or famous.
I don’t think Ptaah ever said anything about a “third strand”. It was made clear also by Matthew Deagle earlier today that the issue was about altered/manipulated genes, which our scientists will eventually rectify (when they stop being so preoccupied with the material success you alluded to).
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_070
Most of the details are found in this contact (Contact Report 70).
About the genetic modification, this is found in Contact Report 251.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251
Michael, If you or anyone else can clarify the following for me, id appreciate it greatly, so what is it about the pictures billy took on his great journey whereby on his visit to the planet NEBER he took pictures of a primitive human walking there and then he was accused of taking a picture off a cover of a book with the exact primitive like man walking in the exact pattern? I am not on the accusing side or on the defendant’s side.. i am in the neutral-positive side, i wish to know the full facts and details and clarify the confusion resulting in a clear understanding of how these events came about..i am aware about the Baawi Intelligences being involved in inspirations but i need to somehow come to a conclusion or clarification, so where these photos the authentic ones but they somehow almost looked identical to the illustration of the book even though supposedly the Baawi had sent the inspiration impulses too early tp these artists or were the neber primitive human being pictures somehow manipulated again as has happened before with other of billy’s photos?
Oscar,
This was posted on the FIGU forum today and may help explain the issues with these photos which, it’s important to point out, don’t apply to Meier’s stil irreproducible, authentic UFO photos, films, etc.:
Excerpt from the second edition of the book “And still they fly!” on page 159
A Succession of Thefts
In this connection, I must not forget to mention the serious and continuing matter of thefts. According to Billy, out of about 100 slide films used to make 36 slides, the quality of a little more than half of them turned out quite well. But out of approximately 1,500 photos, only 700 remain in his possession today. More than half of all the photos have disappeared without a trace.
The photos of outer space that were taken on a five-day journey through our universe are not included in this count. In this regard, the situation looks even gloomier. As Billy assured me, most of these photos had undergone considerable damage in quality as a result of radiation from the cosmos and, therefore, were basically worthless. Nevertheless, the quality of the remaining photos of outer space could be termed as moderate to good, partially even as very good. Be that as it may, Billy, no longer possesses a single photo of his outer space travels, as unlikely as that may sound. After a counting in which I personally took part, more than 100 photos literally vanished from the collection overnight. A rather sad result, I must say. The whole matter also seems paradoxical to me. On one hand, Billy is depicted as a master of falsification who is capable of conjuring up one series of spectacular photos after another. But on the other hand, his photos are apparently so valuable that some people are foolish enough to steal them, even if they are supposedly only “crude falsifications.” Apart from the thefts, it is more than astounding to find that certain groups, some with an enormous expenditure of time and money, have undermined Billy’s credibility, labelled his contacts as “the greatest swindle in the history of ufology” and then spread this horror story world-wide.
Just a thought that might be the absolute proof of the assistance of the Plejaren. Have they ever thought of capturing the Viking Probe and bringing it back to the Earth? Seems to me it would be beneficial to help prove an extra-terrestrial assistance very similar to how the E.T. in the movie ‘E.T.’ brought back the Skittle candies to Elliot. The Plejaren could bring back our probe and deliver a message that would be very clear of their technological powers without the risk of a beamship being captured. Attaching the Spiritual Teachings to the Viking probe might help get the message across, too. It worked nicely in the movie. Just a thought.
John,
The problem is that of course any such efforts at proving can be concealed, controlled, explained away as part of a terrestrial effort because of the movie, etc., apart from the fact that they’re…unnecessary. If it’s physical proof we’re after, the again authenticated UFO photos from Meier should be sufficient, along with all the other evidence.
I think the main problems are the still ongoing suppression of the information by the media/intelligence agencies, the selfish and arrogant scientists who either won’t look at it or who already know it’s true but feel too threatened to act for the benefit of humankind, the idiotic UFOCI that continues to chase lights in the sky and delusional information, and of course lazy people who just want to be entertained and do no real thinking for themselves.
Thanks for the explanation. You are correct. The proof has been around for a very long time and the suppression of it will continue no matter how obvious the truth becomes.
Thanks for bringing us back to the study and sharing of the knowledge. Fully agree with this objective;
“”This particular blog will be a place, or forum, for discussing meanings in the various texts in the Billy Meier case, including from the spiritual teaching, contact notes, etc. People can interact here to offer their opinions, attempts to clarify, agree or disagree about the meanings.
This will allow a bit more digression from other specific topics, though it won’t be a place for personal attacks, occultism, conspiracies, etc. The comments should be in reference to the content of the Meier material.””
Sheila, you responded in the wrong thread, so I put my response here:
The truth is not necessarily harsh – just true.
And it is usually pretty unproductive to your own understanding of the truth to go around telling other people that they need to look inside themselves to understand something you yourself do not understand. That is called hypocrisy.
Maybe you need to ask yourself why you care so much what someone else does or thinks that has no bearing on your own life.
By the way, somewhere else in that thread you were talking about the value of vitamin D3. As it turns out, if you want high-quality vitamin D3 you can buy it from my dad’s website at Nutrimedical.com, called MyCell D3 at 5,000 IU – a very high-quality form, liquid capsules.
Well, I think this comment is indicative of why I’d prefer that the parties concerned communicate directly with each other, if they wish to discuss this further, i.e. Matthew says, “Maybe you need to ask yourself why you care so much what someone else does or thinks that has no bearing on your own life.” – which of course could just as well be applied to his own comment here.
So, in addition to his second plug for his dad’s site, I think the public discussion of this topic is over, everyone having had their say, etc.
If I were your dad I would be hording D3 rather than selling it because of all the things he has been preaching in the new times.
Please back on topic.
Matthew said: “The truth is not necessarily harsh – just true.”
Let’s test that out Matthew. Have you ever read anything in the Meier material that you felt was harsh?
Harshness is subjective. Billy does not say things just to be provocative, but to be honest. If expressing his honest opinion requires words that some may perceive as “harsh”, that does not mean that he intends to offend people. The Plejaren say that an honest way of describing things requires human language and that a cold, scientific language is false, megalomaniacal and minimizing of the dangers.
Actually Meier has indeed said that the often harsh truth must be told and without flowery words.
Earlier on this blog Dyson talked about how he is supposedly “incapable of belief” genetically.
Just thought I would add this translation, ironically from the Australian FIGU:
“(Auszug aus dem 594. Kontaktgespräch vom 1. September 2014)
How Can One Protect Oneself from Belief?
(Excerpt from the 594th Contact Conversation of the 1st September, 2014)
Billy
… ich habe noch anderes, das ich zur Sprache bringen will, wie z.B. das, dass gewisse Menschen irrig glauben und behaupten, dass sie keinen Religionen und deren Sekten, wie auch nicht philosophischen oder politischen Sekten verfallen könnten. Meine Meinung und Erfahrung dazu ist aber gegensätzlich die, dass jeder Mensch dafür anfällig ist, und zwar ganz egal welcher Herkunft er ist, welche Bildung und welchen Beruf und welche Meinung er hat, wenn er nicht die schöpferisch-natürlichen Gesetze und Gebote erkennt und sie standhaft und unbeirrbar im Leben befolgt. Was meinst du dazu?
Billy
… I have still another thing which I want to mention, how for example, that certain human beings erroneously believe and claim that they could not fall for any religions and their sects, as well as not for philosophical or political sects.
My opinion and experience on that to the contrary is that each human being is susceptible to it, namely, regardless of which descent he/she is, which education and which occupation and which opinion he/she has, if he/she recognises not the creational-natural laws and recommendations and follows them steadfastly and unswervingly in life. What do you think about that?
Ptaah
Was du sagst, ist diskussionslos richtig. Doch muss dazu auch gesagt sein, dass eine tiefgreifende Selbstdisziplin wie auch das erforderliche Wissen und die absolute Gewissheit in bezug auf die Richtigkeit der Gesetze und Gebote dazugehört. Auch die Motivation und der Wille sind ebenso von Bedeutung wie auch das unerschütterliche Durchhaltevermögen und die Kraft usw., durch Vernunft und Verstand allen Anfeindungen, Gewalten und Zwängen widerstehen zu können, die in vielerlei Formen auftreten und das Ganze des Widerstandes gegen das Sektentum jeder Art und des richtigen Handelns und Verhaltens beeinträchtigen wollen.
Ptaah
What you say is right without discussion. However on that it must also be said that a profound self-discipline as well as the necessary knowledge and the absolute certainty in regard to the rightness of the laws and recommendations belongs to that. Also the motivation and the will are just as important as the unflappable endurance and the power, etc., to be able to resist, through rationality and intellect, all hostilities, Gewalten and compulsions, which arise in many kinds of forms and want to impair the whole of the resistance against the sectarianism of every kind and the right action and behaviour.
Billy
Eigentlich wollte ich auch noch irgendwie darauf zu sprechen kommen, doch finde ich, dass deine Worte genau richtig sind und die Notwendigkeiten zum Ausdruck gebracht haben. Wahrscheinlich hätte ich es selbst in so kurzer und bündiger Weise nicht gekonnt, weil ich wohl mehr Worte gebraucht hätte. …
Billy
Actually I wanted to get to that somehow as well, however I find that your words are exactly right and have expressed the necessities. I probably would have not been able to do it in such a short and precise form, because I probably would have needed more words. …”
Note the above refers to ANY human being can be susceptible to such things regardless of their background or where they come from. Therefore, where it says “if he/she recognises not the creational-natural laws and recommendations and follows them steadfastly and unswervingly in life” is the difference.
It’s like saying in another way if all he believes are his eyes and his eyes they just tell him lies then he’s hell bent on destruction. Of course, as man here is opposed to fair play, because he believes he rules the “Earth”, then clearly man has invented their own doom.
So true,so very very true.
Michael
Is there a possibility that Billy communicates with demonic spirits. A friend of mine who does a lot of research stated that.
Joe,
There’s no such thing as “demonic spirits”. It’s simply another delusional belief created by religions and absorbed by weak, non-thinking minds.
Michael, What are you getting at? Why would Billy want to deal with such demons such as the MIBs etc? If that were the case I don`t think we would ever know about the P`s and their Spiritual Teachings etc and why would we want such bad appels messing and tangling with Planet Earth in the first place? After all this planet,solar system and star is in pretty bad shape as it is,how much badder can it get. Seems to me nobody is getting it with Billy`s prophecies and predictions etc. Billy is the LAST one who even bother to deal with such demonic entities in the first place and why should we too? We have enough bad people here on Earth such as those politicians,corporations, religions,etc,etc,etc. Need I say anymore?:-(((
Hi Terry,
The Sirius men in black where not “Demonic entities” but beings, possibly extra-hominid creatures who would look quite hideous or frightening to us, and in fact it seems that they used that element to their own advantage.
So, no need for panic… just intergalactic gangsters of a different kind.
Same song, different voice!
Hi Paul,
Are you sure that they were hideous looking creatures as opposed to human beings? If you can cite it in the CRs it would be helpful.
Also, can you use your full first and last name (if Wr isn’t actually your last name)?
Thanks.
The Sirian MIB who were rounded up and deported in the year 2006 (if memory serves) were described as having Asian features. Hardly hideous or frightening. One of their assignments was to find other Earth foreigners by questioning human witnesses and then threatening them to keep their mouths shut. They were deported due to their assassination attempt against Billy.
Yes Michael, of course!
No need for me to hide my full name.
Firstly I will attempt to correct Sheila.
Sheila, It was the people from Nisan (Chinese/Japanese) who were Asian in appeaance, while the Bardon peoples (Tunguska event) who were described as having mongolian like features.
Then this regarding the Sirius “men in black”.
From the FIGU Forum (Questions Answered by Billy):
Hi Billy, One of the first well known uses of the term Men in Black was in the 1962 book Flying Saucers & the Three Men by Albert Bender. In that book, the author describes the Men in Black as “Men dressed in Black with glowing eyes, they changed their form to what they really looked like, a hideous creature”.
Are these the same Men in Black that were altering your pictures? If not then why do you use this term, as it is thoroughly discredited today & could cause confusion?
ANSWER:
Yes. However, their eyes are not glowing, but fluorescent. — There are only a few of them left (a group of old Sirians).
The other MiB are “Regierungslümmel” (governmental etc. agents).[1]
Link to some excerpts from Albert Benders book.
https://borderlandsciences.org/journal/vol/18/n08/Crabb_on_Bender_Three_Men_I.html
Thanks,
Paul
Of course, I should follow up my last comment with the information relating to the arrest and removal of the remaining Sirian men in black in 1998 by the Sirian scientists.
Thanks,
Paul
Here is the link to contact report – http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_424.
These Sirian rebels it seems used their powers of consciousness and technology to de/re-materialise.
The whole smell of sulphur thing it seems is related to the materialisation process and this smell has been experienced by Billy when the Giza Intel plotted an attack on his property after they escaped in the early 80s from their prison planet.
Thankfully they are gone now too.
Thanks,
Paul.
Thanks Paul for the correction. I had not read that Q & A and I obviously had a different group in mind.
There are hidden gems in all the spiritual teachings and essays, but I came across these TWO SENTENCES that certainly say a lot…
105) The destiny which you determine yourselves through your thoughts and feelings, through your activity and your actions and deeds is based on consequences, i.e. effects which you yourselves create through distinct causes and which you then have to bear as your destiny, both in the good as in the evil.
108) Each destiny and each interaction is thus preceded by your own free and willing decision, and this means that with each first decision and volition you create something each time which manifests itself to you as interaction and destiny; therefore, you will, sooner or later, have to live in what you today determinatively create through your thoughts and feelings, through your activity and through your deeds and actions and out of which you will inevitably have to bear the consequences when you are struck by it, that is by the destiny.
Goblet of The Truth p.509
MH,
Billy wrote an article about the negatives of mass mixing of races. I can’t seem to find it. Could you please point me to it? Thanks!
I suggest searching my site and futureofmankind. I won’t have time until perhaps tomorrow to do more.
MH, I just found it. The reason I couldn’t find it was because it was in the 1958 letter. I didn’t expect it to be there.
If you can read German, check out Sonder-Bulletin 91, as well:
http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/bulletin/figu_sonder_bulletin_91.pdf
It begins with the following:
“Völkerwanderungen bedrohen die Menschheit:
Voraussagen von BEAM erfüllen sich erneut!
… und die gnadenlose Unbedarftheit der Multi-Kulti-Befürworter
wird bittere Folgen haben
Schon die alten Propheten der Nokodemion-Linie namens Jeremia (9. Februar 662 v. Chr. bis 3. September
580 v. Chr.) und Elia (5. Februar 891 v. Chr. bis 4. Juni 780 v. Chr.) sagten zu ihrer Zeit die negativen
Folgen von Völkervermischungen auf der Erde voraus, die heute Wirklichkeit geworden sind und sich in
den nächsten Jahrzehnten und Jahrhunderten noch gewaltig verschlimmern werden. Grundsätzlich ist
hierfür die weltweite Überbevölkerung die Kardinalursache, weil für immer mehr Menschen auf der
Welt immer weniger Lebensraum, Nahrungsmittel, gesunde Luft, Trinkwasser, Arbeitsplätze, Wohnraum,
Erholungsgebiete, gesunde Natur, landwirtschaftliche Anbauflächen usw. usf. zur Verfügung stehen. Der
unkontrollierte Wahnsinn der globalen Überbevölkerung verursacht nebst vielen anderen tödlichen
Übeln den Treibhauseffekt durch vermehrten CO2-Ausstoss. Die verheerenden Auswirkungen erleben wir
nun in Form von Klimakatastrophen, immer heftiger werdenden und sich häufenden Naturkatastrophen,
Unwettern, Überflutungen, Vulkanausbrüchen, Erdbeben, Hungersnöten, Gewaltexzessen, weltweitem
Terrorismus, Aufrüstung und Kriegen. Aktuell (März 2015) warnen Experten der Vereinten Nationen die
Menschheit im ‹World Water Development Report 2015› vor einer verheerenden Wasserknappheit. Im
zwischenmenschlichen Bereich zeigen sich die Folgen der Überbevölkerung in Form einer allgemeinen
Degeneration und Ausartung der Menschen, ebenso wie an Werteverlust, Gleichgültigkeit, Verrohung,
Lieblosigkeit, Drogensucht, Schönheits- und Jugendwahn, mangelndem Respekt gegenüber alten Menschen
und den Nächsten generell, der Auflösung und Zerstörung der zwischenmenschlichen Beziehungen
und vielem mehr an menschenunwürdigen Bösartigkeiten und Übeln. Dies kann jeder Mensch, der
wachen Sinnes ist, am täglichen Weltgeschehen feststellen und nachverfolgen. Alle Unmenschlichkeiten,
Natur- und Umweltzerstörungen und sonstigen Ausartungen vielfältiger Form werden in den nächsten
Jahrhunderten stetig zunehmen, solange nicht die Überbevölkerung durch logische, strikte und humane
Geburtenregelungen eingedämmt wird (siehe Artikel ‹Bevölkerungswachstum ohne Ende? – Schluss
mit dem Tabu!› im FIGU-Sonder-Bulletin Nr. 41 vom Februar 2008) und somit nach und nach wieder
menschenwürdige Lebensbedingungen auf der Erde wiederhergestellt resp. geschaffen werden. Geschieht
das nicht in absehbarer Zeit, dann drohen unseren Folgegenerationen staatlich angeordnete Zwangsmassnahmen
zur Geburtenkontrolle, die dann gemäss einer alten Prophetie bei Zuwiderhandlungen
mit der Todesstrafe geahndet werden könnten.”
Well what?
This is a somewhat quick translation of the article (apologies for any significant errors but I think it’s alright and pretty clear):
NOTE: Translation removed at Tyler’s request.
So FIGU does not want there to be any such death penalty for offenders, but it is looking like if we don’t make a change then our future generations will put this kind of punishment in place.
So what are some ideas from anybody? I am writing a letter to send to MPs in Ontario where I live – my hope is that it will start some dialogue at least, and that’s what I’ll aim for since I personally think it’s too early to insist that they start putting a strict birthstop measure into place. Call me slow but I want to be realistic and not spook anybody.. although, I’ll take counter-points to the effect that I’m being too gentle-worded. I battle with depression myself and frankly, those words from Billy only move me so much in the current condition of my psyche .. so, have some thoughts? What approach do you take MH in your letters and things like that? I am sure I would appreciate to be able to follow in your example, since you already proved yourself.
But also, what effect did your efforts have MH? Did you learn anything? I suppose I have to learn through my own mistakes, but of course I appreciate any insight that can lead to improved efforts. That is part of a creational recommendation too .. one-up each other in good deeds.
Most governments with lax immigration-policies do so just out of sheer greed and a false economic policy of “growth” by any means. At the same time, and also for greed, they stir up hatred against these exact same immigrant-groups in order to go to war to use their overpriced weapons on their homelands. In some cases up to a trillion dollars are spent on research and development for basically useless weapons or craft, e.g. the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which is too underspecialized to be of much use in combat, yet cost upward of $1.5 TRILLION to develop.
I acted wrongly. I didn’t follow the right way to be able to make a translation. It should be taken down so please do that. I like making them but have to do it the right way first. But just start to learn German if you didn’t already.
Hey guys,
First heard about this material on Coast To Coast with Art Bell, Michael did a wonderful job presenting the material and defending it. Can’t thank you enough for the work you do, Michael. Any chance of another Art Bell interview now that he is back on the air?
I’ve read a lot of the material, listened to the tapes by Randy Winters, currently reading the Goblet of Truth – I am understanding correctly that all intelligent life throughout the universe and other dimensions look like us with variations in skin color? Anyone know what Randy is up to these days?
Thanks!
Nick
Thanks. Feel free to write to Art Bell, he has a new show, and suggest we speak again.
Nick, no, most “Menschen” (human beings) known to the Plejaren look similar to us but a significant minority take on all sorts of “exterhumanoid” forms such as animal-like forms, cyclopses, etc. There are reptiloids, amphiboids, pteroids, etc. You can look it up on the FIGU forum where Christian Frehner lists the different types. Basically there are humans that resemble reptiles, birds, fish, amphibians, etc. Aside from this, there are even artificial human-animal hybrids of all kinds, called “cherubim” and “seraphim”, of which there is still some evidence of these existing on Earth on the island of Rapanui/Easter Island, where they speak of “bird-people”.
http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/board-admin.cgi?action=quick&do=print&HTTP_REFERER=12/11862&postindex=57255
“During the 469th contact of 11th August 2008, Ptaah listed the following different kinds of human beings that they know of:
Human being types in the known Creation (according to The Plejaren Federation) Type Description
Humanoids Like the Plejaren themselves and the Earth humans
Amphiboids People who resemble animals that live in the water; they live on land and in water, like Asina and her people
Reptileoids Human-reptilian forms with a skin covered with scales
Insectoids Human-insectoid forms; their skin having a chitin quality
Sauroids Human-sauropode form, their skin resembling that of an elephant
Primatoide Human-primate form with more hair on his skin than the Earth human
Condicoids Humanoids who are capable to move along through levitation, like the ones who were seen sitting on the roof of the SSSC
Teropoids Human-birdlike body with a long neck, face and beak-like mouth
Hydroids Human-fishlike body, who are living in the water, but can leave it for longer periods
Thermoids Humanoids who are living in hot zones of very high temperature
Frigoroids Humanoids who are living in regions with very low temperatures
Aërioids Humanoids who are breathing poisonous gas or living in different gas environments, respectively
Acoroids Humanoids of humanoid body, whose skin is covered by a fine acid layer, as it is the case with the Trilaner (Trilans).
Floroids Humanlike and diverse plant bodies
Kentauroids Life forms with part human, part horse-like bodies
Faunoids Bodies part human, part animals with hooves
Cheruboids Very light human life forms, with wings with which they are capable to fly
Seraphoids Very light life forms with a human-animal body, with feathered wings by which they are able to fly
The non-humanoid life forms are called Peregrinhumanoids, which means strange-humanoids (Fremdartighumanoide).”
Very cool! Thanks Matthew. How wonderful and awe inspiring is creation?!
Art Bell’s producer has been e-mailed, Michael. Hope to hear you on there soon.
Thanks Nick. Let’s see if he isn’t intimidated by the MUFON crowd, etc.
A good illustrator could draw these humanoid types, where they could be available on the future of mankind site as well as Michaels. Perhaps the comic book illustrator?
James,
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I suppose its easy for the individuals who have had the spirit impulses (& impulses? including p impulses?) for most of our/their lives {whether any workings out that far yet or not}, providing more than we ever really needed to know in any given situation, developing out a plethora of cognitions most would be quite shocked (dangerously shocked? health) to even come across any of it in any written form. So its easy I guess for some of us in the world to have identified this or that or whatever. Important that we give people time and space, and as Michael says, just put the information under they’re noses but not cause any trouble, pass comment add any feelings or emotions, that is apparently what really defines the wise people, that self control.
Thats just some talk for the thread from me. Oh and most people do develop an interest in UFO’s at some time or another btw, they are put off by all the bs originating from various distasteful sources, and I respect them for that. And Billy’s right probably that those individuals probably do deserve the knowledge in the texts about nature and the environment, if you wanted to offer that impartially privately in a way that does not provoke any heightened emotions, they deserve that particular knowledge.
Hmm… really really good point. Ok. I got to put this into practice myself. Give them the information, let them figure it out if they want to. When encounter somebody who is a nit-picker … not sure what to do yet. But I get the impression, nit-picking back with them is not the best course of action. Hopefully they don’t become aggravated to want to start a slandering campaign – that’s my motivation in one case for not losing my cool. That would be way worse in my estimation, if somebody felt like it was their duty to slander the truth.
I’m really such a low quality teacher Tyler, actually I didnt really mean any of those things. We probably shouldnt hand any information over to certain individuals in particular situations, if theres any possibility whatsoever for aggravation then I’m usually no where to be found, and also its not even about offering advice or whatever.
The way the plejaren do it is based on whether the individual is thinking over a prolonged period of time in a progressive creative flexible developing sort of a way.
My recommendation Tyler is that you never tell anyone about the information that you’ve found on the internet, that is my recommendation, that you keep it as personal development time only, the governments and far leading industries and corporations of every kind will ultimately lead the way not just any bunch of individuals who think they know something, just because they read something online, even if it was right and profound information and they really do know something, it will always be those with the political and financial might which lead with this particular social regime, and I recommend that you do not battle with that fact as an individual alone.
I bet to differ. I sent the IS information along with the information about world wide peace fighting troops to my PM. I’m beyond the hurt feelings stage and am looking at the big picture of which this information needs to be sent to appropriate departments regardless of how I appear to them. This information needs to be addressed and it appears that is being addressed. It’s too bad our media downplays the whole IS threat.
Well your a strong woman and you can handle yourself, and when you say ‘downplays’ the threat you probably mean that its not up to action packed non-stop endurance test of the categorically delusional north american media, some are capable of adding they’re own seriousness rating measurements to any information, many people in the UK get they’re news from a soft slowly speaking but thorough radio presenter who is commissioned on behalf of the government who is voluntarily paid by the people in a profitable business format, which is how we could even possibly know that half of the conspiracy hype is exclusively from a small number of individuals in a small band of Earth nations.
You obviously have no clue. But thanks for taking off your make-up long enough to show your real feelings about American women. That was most enlightening.
1 read through, jump to conclusions … 2 read throughs, make a bit of sense … 3 read throughs … ..
Let’s stick together eh? I think we’re all on the same side. I’ve got my own prejudices too. It happens as a part of life on Earth.
You were enlightened by that were you, yet I have no clue…. You should hear my opinions about all kinds of different people all over the world, through out history and probable future, the kinds of words and language tones and expressions I have absolutely no issue in using to express myself and how I really feel about the situation. The american men are not the best either, but look we can’t get to the truth with all its various details unless we abandon all of our traditions apparently.
Tyler, just let these people age with dignity, they’ve taught you well now move back a little bit and see where you are.
I’m not going to Daniel. I might not be that old, but I’ve had my own assortment of experiences so my opinions are valid too. So I won’t just back down, or else I’m not sure how to understand what you wrote. Could you be clearer?
It was a complement to your autonomy
Are you sure it was? or is it possible you are making something up again and are being misleading / confusing?
Properly (exhaustive work) think the situation (the combination of characters positions and meanings) through and reach your own (belongs to you) judgement (considered decisions sensible conclusions)
And make a proper judgement of me Tyler
“making something up” oooh, now wait, I’ve had to revisit that to double check your disposition. I was under the impression we all were wasting any time here for the very fact that we did only the very opposite of that, to not make things up. Now your telling me you may be susceptible to this form arouse of curiosity.
Or are you just saying that because you are checking how suspicious I am? or are you verifying how suspicious you should be?
Its not confusing, its actually a very clear concept depending on how basic your making Billy’s life’s work.
Forgive me, there is a third way, you were flattered by the compliment and you are always very welcome to be in every situation, but something like the third way has it that you juggled the response in another way lets say. But you can verify that for yourself.
Your not threatened Tyler, your welcome.
Btw Tyler, you should never expect anyone to work anything like this out of they’re own volition. Point of interest, it occasionally makes children into quiet reserved individuals when the parent hands out every possible combination of answer, determining every faculty thought process and then offering every possible strand of info that the child needs.
In some economies that is good also.
In “Might of the thoughts…” chapter 29 it states “If a human being wants to be taught and convinced about whether his/her neighbour is really a loyal and honest friend to him/her, then he/she should not listen to his/her advice, and should wait and see how he/she reacts”, I am wondering how a good friend/neighbor is likely to react. When I have ignored advice from others I seem to get little or no reaction. I assume this is bad.
I can’t say for certain, but what helped me to reach a deeper understanding was to think about how I would want somebody who was a true friend to treat me. Thinking along this line led me to a better understanding of how I could prove myself to be a true friend to others. Billy just touches on some things in his writings and I think this is one of those examples, where it’s the reflecting that achieves the progress – not necessarily having it spelled out in plain, blunt words. Salome.
Er, that is, I had thought about about how I might act toward a friend who was doing something harmful to themselves, if they kept on doing it. I had a couple of teaching experiences in life too that helped me find an answer that makes sense to me. I hope this helps.
Entschuldige Seth. I already encountered a few moments in my life when I am seeking a better explanation like you asked for, so I can know better away from my ignorance. So my notion was not tested and I should not have given it in the case. I hope you find your answer in good time.
My recommendation is the exact same as before, to buy a hiking bag and dont look at any screens for 9 months. The deliberate communities as seen in the film wanderlust 2012
What?
I’m sure I’ll figure it out eventually. Thank you.
Hi Seth,
My own understanding of this is that it is not so bad, but a little neutral actually. If they react with anger because you did not follow their advice, but they do not appreciate you having the freedom to follow the advice or not, they may not be very much of a friend but rather more of a dominant type of person.
Thanks,
Paul
like saying “I told you so”. that is neutral? That sounds about right though I’m sure there is much more to it. I guess I’ll have to ignore more friendly advice to truly learn.
Well, if you ignore advice from people and you get little or no reaction in return, you could then say that they are reacting passively, because they are not giving you hassle for ignoring the advice.
You should always strive to Truly learn by the way.
From the Introduction to the Spiritual Teaching
257 “The finite things of all forms are are unnatural for the innermost essence, and therefore, the human cannot recognize and love them as truth without harming himself most severely.”
Something tells me that this statement will sound strange to those blinded by greed. Firstly, because it so fundamentally goes against everything modern civilization stands for, and what modem man strives to become as he blunders through life, chasing dead end false philosophies and materialistically orientated obsessions.
You have a typo there but the point comes across.
Whoa awesome quote thanks! But I must point out that American money is basically imaginary and not finite, it comes from debt that is spawned out of thin air (I had to watch Zeitgeist a few times to fully understand it, thought it still makes no logical since). Could that be cause for confusion of the subconscious? Since the innermost essence knows of its truth but the conventional/untrained inner nature typically covets material wealth. I hope this isn’t distorted thinking. I am just trying to get to the bottom of why this country is the way it is and what would need to be done to correct it.
no logical sense*