The real conspiracy is hidden in plane sight
Billy Meier’s information on the so-called chemtrails has been criticized by many conspiratorially minded people as being either a deliberate attempt to…cloud the issue, or simply as obviously incorrect and uninformed. Meier and the Plejaren never state scientific theories but only facts that have consistently proved to be unerringly accurate.
So the information forwarded to me by Chris Lock is welcomed for its informative and credible content. Maybe now attention to the real dangers and causes of our atmospheric and climate problems will surpass interest in the escapist nonsense that captures the attention of the gullible, time after time.
Revisiting Neptune
If that inconvenient truth is too depressing, let’s just revisit some of Meier’s prophetically accurate, out-of-this-world information.
In August of 1989, several “new discoveries” about the planet Neptune were made by Voyager 2, which Billy Meier had already published in May of 1989. Meier had already described the giant storm that NASA would discover, as well as information about Triton, etc. Meier scooped NASA here by several months, as he did with his information about Jupiter, Io and Europa decades ago, and which the skeptics inadvertently corroborated.
Skepteration
Having to endure the decades of skepticism from irrational, illogical skeptics was a given; to force people to accept, or “believe” the case and its evidence as authentic wasn’t allowed and would have only violated people’s free will. In their desperation, skeptics failed to factor in the fundamental, real life elements that spoke against any kind of hoax on Meier’s part.
Just a bit of objective, logical consideration of human behavior, and the established absence of means, motive and opportunity, would have been sufficient to eliminate the possibility of hoaxing. But the skeptics were so invested in the hoaxing premise that they completely failed to ponder why anyone who was so devoid of financial, technical and collaborative resources – and who clearly could have used the kind of money that such “hoaxes” could have earned him (Meier was offered, and turned down, three very lucrative offers from major movie studios) – never tried to capitalize financially on his evidence. In fact, it was, and still remains, the responsibility of interested parties to go through all of his information and either corroborate or try to debunk it themselves, the latter of which hasn’t proved very successful.
Although the skeptics immediately try to dismiss it, the fact is that Meier would have had to possess high levels of mastery in numerous skills and sciences that he simply didn’t, while accomplishing everything in the pre-computer and digital era with only one hand. And while they try to minimize that element as well, the precedent setting reality of this one man accomplishing all of this – and never seeking to personally profit by it – completely escapes the understanding of the glib and vacuous critics. The very idea that his principles and values prohibited him from seeking personal gain from what was meant to be freely given to humanity is beyond foreign to them.
After all, when our so-called scientists and educators are as corrupt and sold-out as our politicians, people who want, and are able, to see the real truth are becoming as rare as a…clear blue sky.
See also:
Corroboration & Evidence (Search term: Neptune)
Has everyone just ignored the point of Michael’s blog & the info from the Plejaren then? There are other blogs & plenty of those will appreciate the scaremongering many here are laying on thick about chemtrails.
From our friend Ruben Dari in Canada: http://youtu.be/PevuKhNHnU0
Matt Knight, what do you think the jet trails are? Why do they turn on/off? When entering clouds they are off, when exiting and before entering other clouds they are on. How does a Ram Jet do that? I don’t know, my thinking must be flawed, ,I worked at Mc Donnell Douglas in Long Beach on the line as an industrial engineer for MD-80 and C-17 and engineering never told me these Ram Jets would do this. I jumped out of the C-130’s and flew all over Australia in them and never saw trails out of them. Is Australia to dry for contrails? Maybe you know something? I also noticed this last year driving to Flagstaff no bugs splatter on my window anymore since I noticed the jet trails, do you think jet trails pollute the air and kill the bugs? An explanation would be great as to observations, not ridicule.
There’s alot more going on with the atmosphere than can be determined with the eye alone: Warm/cold patches, pockets, thermals, layers, precipitation, etc., so contrails will be interacting invisibly with all these abrupt & subtle changes. Even with thermal imaging, it would be hard to image the atmosphere a plane travels through at any given point in time to be able to rule invisible effects – so why put all your eggs in the chemtrail basket when it makes no sense to anyone?
I think some here may be forgetting that disputing the chemtrail conspiracy theory is not the same as calling contrails entirely harmless. From The History of Artificial Clouds: How to Geoengineer a Planet with Jet Fuel:
“…10,000 deaths are directly attributed to jet exhaust…”
From Plane Exhaust Kills More People Than Plane Crashes
“Airplane exhaust, like car exhaust, contains a variety of air pollutants, including sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides.
Many of these particles of pollution are tiny, about a hundred millionths of an inch wide, or smaller than the width of a human hair.
So-called particulate matter that’s especially small is the main culprit in human health effects, especially since the particulates can become wedged deep in the lung and possibly enter the bloodstream, scientists say.”
“The most common causes of death due to air pollution are cardiovascular and respiratory diseases, including lung cancer, according to the UN’s World Health Organization.”
“Emissions from ships, for instance, kill an estimated 60,000 people a year”
“And the annual total death toll from air pollution is about a million”
I agree Taro. Seems that the degradation of the breathable atmosphere is too banal a subject unless there’s some evil conspiracy behind it. Reminds me of the Plejaren’s reason for the worldwide conspiracy. On a neutral-positive note – maybe the chemtrail conspiracy makes us all think more about the air we breathe.
here is visual from just one day, Oct 5, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2014/aviation-100-years
The 3rd image down (southeastern U.S.) also provides a similar, interesting perspective:
http://climateviewer.com/2014/11/05/contrails-geoengineering-single-fuel-concept/
Think that 3rd image says it all really Taro. Conclusion: No cover-up = no conspiracy = other than what humans conspire to inspire us with with their toxic ideas & carbon-based fuels that are really threatening.
Well, the only “cover-up” is the additional cloud cover contrails are clearly producing. I’m wondering how this ultimately influences the greenhouse effect. Unfortunately, there is currently not much consensus on this.
“We don’t know” is a much better place to be than “Guess what” & saying nothing that actually enlightens.
Agreed, no one knows the chemical make up of Jet Exhaust, thus, the term Chemtrail is also valid – it is chemicals right? So whats in them? If what is in a chemtrail can be removed – like a catalytic converter in our cars – can we clean the air up – that would be nice:) BUT, no one is addressing the so visible phenomena of chemtrails turning on/off several times in less than 10 miles. Is that due to moisture differences being so extremely fantastically great than it’s like flying through hydro climate changes where virtually no moisture exists right next to moisture – if that is true – how are we surviving, or, are we just thinking and not really alive and stuck in a pod like in the Matrix? Everyone avoids the question – something like religion. AND the Plejarans never commented to my knowledge about Chemtrails – it’s Billy answering a specific question – read the question Billy gives a specific answer and no more.
“no one is addressing the so visible phenomena of chemtrails turning on/off several times in less than 10 miles.”
I haven’t seen such rapid alternations, and I did watch your Kingman video. In any case, Matt already answered this for you:
“There’s alot more going on with the atmosphere than can be determined with the eye alone: Warm/cold patches, pockets, thermals, layers, precipitation, etc., so contrails will be interacting invisibly with all these abrupt & subtle changes”
You also wrote
“Is that due to moisture differences being so extremely fantastically great than it’s like flying through hydro climate changes where virtually no moisture exists right next to moisture”
Think this one through. You are jumping to the conspiracy explanation way too fast. It does not take “extremely fantastically great” moisture variations to go from invisible water vapour to visible moisture(cloud/fog/contrail etc). Only enough to go above or below saturation level. This might only be 1 or 2 degrees(C or F, pick one). Maybe even less. If you REALLY want to understand this phenomenon, study a little meteorology.
[woops, sorry MH, the other one was posted in the wrong place]
Then cars leave chemtrails… as do trains, engines, generators, plastics of all kinds, medicines, in fact anything that uses chemicals. Then how come we don’t describe them as doing that? Hmmmph…
Well done Bob, I think you’ve found a gap in the conspiracy market. Bagzzit. The reason why those things don’t leave chemtrails, including planes, is because of the implied and historical, cultural meaning of the term which do not apply & causes irrational thinking. Let’s strive to be accurate & not mislead don’t you think?
I find it inspiring that in The Talmud of Jmmanuel it is written that Prophet Jmmanuel will return at time of “weather breakdown”. I am also inspired by writings in the Talmud referring to Billy Meier, whom will be “unassuming” and sharing the true teaching of Prophet Jmmanuel.
Joseph,
Can you give us the page number re the weather?
Yes Michael, it is page 97, paragraph 45 of the first edition.
Hi Joseph,
I only have the fourth edition so can you please tell me the chapter and sentence number? I should have asked for that first. Thanks.
Of course, it is Chapter 25 – The Prophecy. I count lines 113-114. Peace.
Thanks!
I can see that people are concerned about the weather…..they should be. I’m guessing it takes hundreds upon thousands to make weather. It is no dought a complicated and delicate balance. The amount of power to drive it alone is enormous. Could it be thrown out of balance? Sure, but it takes a bit to do it. There have been those that have achieved success at it. But to keep it up, would take a lot of energy and resources and time and manpower etc. then there’s the WHY do it. If you beleave that they are doing this to rid the world of people. Only to come out of some underground bunker some place. To inherit a messed up planet for them selfs. Well I guess you won’t be convinced by Billy Or his friends or MH or anyone else, but yourself. The weather is changing, things will start to look different. No big surprise. Salome Robert
TARO, you don’t know me. MH does. You can’t tell the difference between serious and funny! Where have you worked? Have you worked with jet engines like I have? You need to look up once in a while and see what the jet engines are doing! Who knows whats really coming out, but, jet exhaust is chemical and so chemtrail – call it what every – jets make a lot of pollution, so does coal. Is it a conspiracy that China buys most our coal and burns it without filters and that crap ends up back on us? That I am sure you will call conspiracy! You offered no insights or knowledge, just opinions and offered no real questions.
Hi Bob,
I guess we’d call the China-coal situation…cause and effect.
Those who ask questions and don’t take brow beatings for answers like Matt and Taro give out will learn more as time goes on.
Bob,
First you ask the exact same question numerous times, expecting someone else to find the answers for you:
October 25, 2015 at 7:35 pm
“Explain to my why…low flying C-130’s are emitting trails in a on/off pattern…”
October 26, 2015 at 11:45 pm
“…see the trails are cut off once they leave the town proper – you think perhaps that due to people being under jets and the jet trails are reacting to people ?”
October 26, 2015 at 11:47 pm
“…perhaps someone can help me (flawed and all) why the jet trails are only over Kingman – turn on/off over the town proper – look at the beginning / end of the jet trails – can’t figure out how the planes can turn on/off there engines?”
October 27, 2015 at 6:15 pm
“Matt Knight, what do you think the jet trails are? Why do they turn on/off?”
Then you complain that no has addressed the issue:
October 27, 2015 at 8:31 pm
“…no one is addressing the so visible phenomena of chemtrails turning on/off several times in less than 10 miles.”
You received not one, but TWO independent replies:
Matt Knight
October 27, 2015 at 8:58 pm
“There’s alot more going on with the atmosphere than can be determined with the eye alone: Warm/cold patches, pockets, thermals, layers, precipitation, etc., so contrails will be interacting invisibly with all these abrupt & subtle changes.”
Taro Istok
October 28, 2015 at 3:10 am
“It does not take ‘extremely fantastically great’ moisture variations to go from invisible water vapour to visible moisture(cloud/fog/contrail etc). Only enough to go above or below saturation level. This might only be 1 or 2 degrees(C or F, pick one). Maybe even less.”
Now, you go on to complain about this?
Matt Knight
October 26, 2015 at 8:58 pm
“It took me five minutes to determine the cause of plane contrail sputtering”
It took me about the same amount of time to find this:
http://contrailscience.com/broken-contrails/
Their explanation matches both of our answers – variations in temperature and/or moisture level along the aircraft flight path.
If you are not going to bother to do the research yourself and expect others to do it for you, then COMPLAIN when they provide you with an answer, don’t be surprised when no one bothers to reply to any more of your comments.
Bob Wiegand
October 27, 2015 at 6:15 pm
“I don’t know, my thinking must be flawed”
Did you really mean this or were you being glib?
Ditto!
If Bob has anything more to offer – maybe he could just offer it instead of just hinting at knowledge which hasn’t been at all been apparent so far judging by his comments.
Hi Bob, I didn’t feel a thing, but, then again I’m not the one who works in the industry & has a reputation. By the way, I would never say you were flawed (as a person) as you surmised so maybe stop beating your own brow? If you read my comment you will see that I said your observations were flawed as they were only based on what you can see in visible light which is up in the air when it comes to… I mean that flies in the face… you get the picture.
CAROLYN, so at 30,000 feet a vapor trail will last how long when turns to ice crystals and are visible?
Hi Bob,
I’m going to offer my “GUESS” as to why those contrails turn on and off over a concentrated mass of concrete, asphalt, steel, glass, wood, plastic, etc., and human bodies along with their pets…….
Salome.
Bob, roughly speaking contrails last longer when the air is moist and rising, and some precipitation is forecast in the near future. When the air is ‘dry’ and sinking and fair weather is set to continue, contrails are short and fade quicker. Good grief, MINTRA lines and Tephigrams!
Also a descending aircraft will have a lower exhaust gas temp and may not produce contrails compared to an ascending aircraft in the same airspace. Likewise, piston and jets will produce different results.
If these ‘chemtrails’ are supposed to be absorbed/inhaled by us on the ground, they would first have to survive the combustion process of the engine!
I think the complexities of real would get in the way again. If I wanted to subject the population of my country to mind control chemicals, or whatever, would I (A) opt to devise a method of having airliners modified to ‘spray’ chemicals out the back of their engines in the vain hope that the immensely varying winds below the aircraft may deposit a few particles of said chemicals onto…peoples clothing (and all of the overt supporting aviation infrastructure that that would require). OR (B), would I simply tip the chemicals into the water supply (covertly).
Crop spraying is performed at extremely low altitude.
complexities of real life, of course
Well done Me one Furor her Matt, ridicule is truth, 1984
Pleasure Bob – I drew my best picture in 1984. It was of Churchill’s face superimposed over a nuclear cloud with dead soldiers strewn in the foreground. There’s really enough fear for everyone & I for one am grateful Billy gave us all the information we need to get to 2084… IF, we start taking it seriously…
Stephen Lane, very interesting. I live in LA and even see fighter jets laying trails at low altitude. As you know LA is in a serious drought and trails last all day. In fact only leave by drifting away. Also Joshua Tree, even dryer, same thing, only started occuring last 3 years. The black trails though, how are they explained
The main reason for not referring to the chemicals omitted in contrails as “chemtrails” is not because they lack chemicals — surely all large aircraft engines emit chemicals — but because, as Meier has pointed out, “chemtrails” talk is invariably associated with the conspiracy talk of planned mass genocide. It is interesting to note that the chemtrails conspiracy really gained traction once the Global 2000 conspiracy finally died a natural death, thankfully. Remarkably it survived years past 2000. Once there was a new conspiracy available, “contrails” for one, the conspiracy lovers could jump ship into the latest conspiracy iteration that would support their notion of a Powers-That-Be genocide against the poor populace. Obviously, this doesn’t apply to all conspiracists but the majority seem to be religiously convinced of an Elite planned mass genocide. That interference noise just clouds the whole issue of our harmful contrails.
It all boils down to what we eat for breakfast at the end of the day. Just think beans on toast. I mean, if it was possible to fart at thirty two thousand feet, I’m sure it would cause some kind of a chemtrail, don’t you think?
Jacobus, considering the topic, could we…elevate the discourse just a bit?
“The main reason for not referring to the chemicals omitted in contrails as ‘chemtrails’ ” should, of course, read “emitted in contrails”.