The real conspiracy is hidden in plane sight
Billy Meier’s information on the so-called chemtrails has been criticized by many conspiratorially minded people as being either a deliberate attempt to…cloud the issue, or simply as obviously incorrect and uninformed. Meier and the Plejaren never state scientific theories but only facts that have consistently proved to be unerringly accurate.
So the information forwarded to me by Chris Lock is welcomed for its informative and credible content. Maybe now attention to the real dangers and causes of our atmospheric and climate problems will surpass interest in the escapist nonsense that captures the attention of the gullible, time after time.
Revisiting Neptune
If that inconvenient truth is too depressing, let’s just revisit some of Meier’s prophetically accurate, out-of-this-world information.
In August of 1989, several “new discoveries” about the planet Neptune were made by Voyager 2, which Billy Meier had already published in May of 1989. Meier had already described the giant storm that NASA would discover, as well as information about Triton, etc. Meier scooped NASA here by several months, as he did with his information about Jupiter, Io and Europa decades ago, and which the skeptics inadvertently corroborated.
Skepteration
Having to endure the decades of skepticism from irrational, illogical skeptics was a given; to force people to accept, or “believe” the case and its evidence as authentic wasn’t allowed and would have only violated people’s free will. In their desperation, skeptics failed to factor in the fundamental, real life elements that spoke against any kind of hoax on Meier’s part.
Just a bit of objective, logical consideration of human behavior, and the established absence of means, motive and opportunity, would have been sufficient to eliminate the possibility of hoaxing. But the skeptics were so invested in the hoaxing premise that they completely failed to ponder why anyone who was so devoid of financial, technical and collaborative resources – and who clearly could have used the kind of money that such “hoaxes” could have earned him (Meier was offered, and turned down, three very lucrative offers from major movie studios) – never tried to capitalize financially on his evidence. In fact, it was, and still remains, the responsibility of interested parties to go through all of his information and either corroborate or try to debunk it themselves, the latter of which hasn’t proved very successful.
Although the skeptics immediately try to dismiss it, the fact is that Meier would have had to possess high levels of mastery in numerous skills and sciences that he simply didn’t, while accomplishing everything in the pre-computer and digital era with only one hand. And while they try to minimize that element as well, the precedent setting reality of this one man accomplishing all of this – and never seeking to personally profit by it – completely escapes the understanding of the glib and vacuous critics. The very idea that his principles and values prohibited him from seeking personal gain from what was meant to be freely given to humanity is beyond foreign to them.
After all, when our so-called scientists and educators are as corrupt and sold-out as our politicians, people who want, and are able, to see the real truth are becoming as rare as a…clear blue sky.
See also:
Corroboration & Evidence (Search term: Neptune)
Sorry bout that. Sure, I’ll give it a go.
What was up with this runaway blimp yesterday?
http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/military-blimp-breaks-loose-and-floats-over-pennsylvania-before-coming-back-down-1.2631954
Why was mufon not called in for investigation sil.
I have been cycling for many years and have seen a change in clouds and the trails left by aircraft. I remember before the late 1990s the skies were more deep blue and trails would not linger for more than 5 seconds. Today anytime a weather front comes from the west multiple planes gather in front of the front and spray. Some I watch will turn a 180 and hit it again. The same plane. They spread out and turn the sky ugly.
I think the term
geoengineering explains what is going on.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/high-bypass-turbofan-jet-engines-geoengineering-and-the-contrail-lie/
Also the 7 min clip of the High Bypass Turbofan Jet Engines in most aircraft. 80 percent of the air going threw these engines are non combusted and do not produce contrails.
I would have to agree as I live some distant from a major airport and never see a trail left from a commercial aircraft high up or low. With my binoculars I can see non commercial planes leaving thick trails. They must need a tune or its on purpose.
So much is controlled today that I can see weather wars going on.
I don’t loose sleep over it.
“Also the 7 min clip of the High Bypass Turbofan Jet Engines in most aircraft. 80 percent of the air going threw these engines are non combusted and do not produce contrails.”
Hi Troy. Well, that’s a sweeping generalisation and very far from the full story (surprise surprise). 80% of the thrust might come from the fan AT TAKEOFF (which is whole idea) in nice thick air, depending on bypass ratio and local conditions. Up in the cruise this is much reduced (perhaps by 50%). Thinner air means you need to turn the core faster to get more bypass, using more fuel. So it’s a compromise depending on many factors on the day. The engine core is a jet engine producing hot exhaust gas which will condense and freeze no matter how some video dresses it up. Really, everything that Dane Wigington talks about is a convenient distortion. He is a deluded believer. If the atmosphere was to be sprayed why would one keep randomly turning it off and on? I don’t think high pressure pumps could tolerate that sort of abuse, they wouldn’t last long. Simply leave them on.
You’re right not to loose sleep over it.
Contrail Science
Hi Troy,
The reason given by Ptaah for the lingering of the contrails is the greenhouse effect.
Cheers,
Paul
“Long before it was common knowledge that silver iodide was being used by the insurance companies to cut down on their hail and crop insurance payouts hence higher profit for them.”
Yes and presumably as another effect which you overlook: More crops and less hail damage for the people underneath? Seems your “issue” with people making profit is making you irrational? You sound like those people who oppose GM crops – no matter what. It’s all about the how and why and you didn’t answer that in your last response to me, you just focused on winning small victories & miss the big picture. It’s a theme I’ve observed in your interations with people. Ignoring information – the how and the why – because it doesn’t agree with you is ignorant & saying Billy retracts his information is stepping into a world of skepticism & I wonder if you understand the information from Billy at all?
No the hail still arrives and often times it’s worse for those at the tail end of the spraying or those who never purchased hail insurance. There are maps drawn out every year as to which sections are more prone and with higher premiums of course. Not all farmers buy hail insurance and those that don’t seem to get hailed on more. Coincidence? Because I actually talk to farmers unlike yourself who only reads about farmers on the Internet.
I’ll always remember how the CAO of the village sprayed her hay crop for grasshoppers. Due to the drought it was toast. She asked the then minister of agriculture what she should do with it. Shirley McLelland told her to let their cattle in to eat what was left. Do you find anything wrong with that?
Yes I am against Roundup ready crops because roundup is sprayed on the whole field and kills all plants except those that were genetically modified to resist it. The run off from this ends up in the local streams and rivers to wreak more havoc. There has been recent contact reports saying as much. So who exactly is not comprehending? I am not against GMO, but am against this Monsanto chemical spraying of fields.
I never said Billy retracts information, I said he updates it usually due to increased knowledge about it as nothing remains stagnant. Plus he clarifies it. I have never said he retracts anything, because he doesn’t. I respect and appreciate Billy and love him very much.
Sheila,
Once again it appears you love being presumptuous about me even more than you could ever possibly Billy because you don’t him personally because you live in Canada.
Anyway… My understanding is that the ever-worsening climatic changes due to pollution from waste from Overpopulation, is having an effect on the hail & other weather conditions – regardless of whether they spray or not. Fighting spraying won’t even begin to deal with that problem, but, maybe if heads weren’t filled with so much nonsense about Chemtrails and the like, they may have a chance to begin to see the bigger picture & realise that your cupping the floodwater out the sinking boat is irrelevant as was the way we deal with all pollution, unless we access & understand the basic message about overpopulation. As to…
“So you are basically saying that an article from Billy from 10 years ago hasn’t changed at all?”
Yes… I am saying exactly that. Aren’t you? Crop circles are manmade & chemtrail conspiracies are stupid.
Do you know Billy personally to, “…love him very much”? I thought true love was for real things like Creation, Nature, Animals, Flora & Fauna & oneself & others known to us personally who we meet regularly in our daily lives? You may appreciate his work, but, something doesn’t sit right with what you said there.
It appears to me that you think your message about cloudseeding, which I don’t remember you making precisely that way, going back to our original disagreements on the whole chemtrail conspiracy discussion, is more important than Billy’s message that chemtrail conspiracies are rubbish and that Overpopulation is the thing? I have to say Sheila, for your impassioned support for including cloudseeding into the “chemtrail conspiracies” description umbrella & vain hope that Billy will grant you an inclusion because you said you love him… it really isn’t.
You say love is for real things. Isn’t Billy a real person? I don’t want any special favors from Billy thanks. What he’s already given to me and my family in his teaching and information will last us a lifetime and hopefully into the next life times. Yes I do love him. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? Maybe one actually has to know what love is to be able to understand???
Absolutely, overpopulation is the cause for all the worlds ills. But that does not mean that we should only talk about overpopulation. I don’t see you only talking about overpopulation, but you think I should?
Also nowhere in the teaching does it say to accumulate as much wealth as possible.
You’re just resorting to the same shallow, angry, bitter insults and lies about me and what I said instead of answering the questions I’ve directly asked you & been courteous to answer when you asked me. Honestly, it’s pathetic and brings this forum down. You’ve shown yourself to not be able to take what you give it out, which is weak & yet you talk about Love. Yeh, righto Sheila.
Remember Matt when you point that finger at me and all the others you’ve chosen to attack, you also have 3 pointing back at you 🙂
MATT, how many buildings fell on 9/11? How many buildings in total were demolished on/after 9/11? If you can’t answer that, you are the conspiracy!
Looks like you got mud on your face on chemtrails and are backing off, but, you love throwing conspiracies around yourself telling everyone that does not follow you they are conspiracy heads. What was/is your religion ? God, Politics, Billy? Anyone disagreeing with you, you discredit with accusations. In a world to come, your one of the first to go, and of course, an expert after the fact.
Off-topic Bob but I guess MH let you off cause you’re a mate. I don’t know, but, your rant makes no sense to anything I’ve been discussing here. If you have a problem, take it up with Billy. I certainly know whose information seems more consistent and credible to me & so far you haven’t said anything of any real insight or value in my view.
“In a world to come, your one of the first to go, and of course, an expert after the fact.”
We all read that right? This sad threat and insult to my wellbeing just because people here and me effectively shot all of Bob’s precious arguments down?
Bob – You & whatever is due me, can come back when you think you’re hard enough, OK? Meanwhile, I’ll keep sharpening my mind on egotistical ****** like you; just for the fun of it.
Would you please read that again Matt because Bob never threatened you or your well-being.
What world is to come then Sheila based on all the predictions that Meier has made so far? Is that a good picture? Is this not a threat that Bob wishes me to go to that world first? Stop hopping to others arguments because your own crumbled & there’s too many fingers pointing at you for the gaps in your understanding.
Well it just goes to show how we have to learn some stuff and relearn others… relearning is the hardest I think. Sometimes is is about learning about ourselves… and what we think about ourselves we have to unlearn. Hi Bob… long time no hear… last time was in SSSC I think… hope you are well… anyway… I get caught up the in conspiracies too… but I find that reading about Billy or what he has to say on the subject steers me in the right direction… I think this article is good because Michael does not offer any evidence other than what our Swiss friend has to say… it is from those less steeped in fantasy and unreality that evolve the fastest… quickly leaving behind the slower ones. We are all equal and some of us may be more one thing than another… like more observant or more intelligent… but we are all equal and have to respect our evolutionary rate which differs from human being to human being and then there are those that are not yet human beings due to their unescape from fantasy. They may call it imagination when indeed it is just the untruthful pathway they vector to leaving the truth lost to themselves.
Salome: Be greeted in Peace and Wisdom.
I’m not going to address your tantrum Matt other to say that Billy has never lied.
I did see your medical dictionary link and scrolled down further to find this:
Silver:
Experimental poisoning with silver salts causes myopathy.
Silver iodide:
Soluble silver salt used in cloud seeding but presents no toxicological risk to local grazing cattle.
It’s obvious that silver can harm you because the medical community have done experiments of this kind. Myopathy is basically when your muscles start shutting down. It reminds me of multiple sclerosis. Hasn’t that gotten widespread over the years? In the next line they claim that silver iodide is not harmful to cattle. How would they know that for sure? Considering that silver is absorbed into the body almost immediately and there are no tests available to determine the amount of silver in a person’s body. So other than experimental poisoning where they are actually giving that person too much silver, that is the only way they know the cauce of myopathy was silver.
You don’t address anything Sheila. Tenuous links between cloudseeding an ever-growing list of ills to prove a point may have won friends in the farming community years ago, but, farmers are more worried about storms, fires, droughts & fracking these days.
People who say that Billy is holding back information are completely ignorant of the real risks he makes all the time to get this info out to us & underestimate his intelligence. Some even have the gall to claim they love him after failing to patronise his point for their own gains even though they’ve never met him – just like the good little closet christians they really are.
It was the farmers who drew my attention to cloud seeding not the other way around. Actually none are concerned with fires and storms since the crops are all off. But how would YOU know that?
He does hold back for good reason with a forced forgetting. Some information should not be released too early. I grew up in a non religious household and no one in my immediate family are religious. You say this was for my personal gain so what exactly do you think I gained here?
“…none are concerned with fires and storms since the crops all off”
This is a prime example of the petty nature of Sheila: Taking a point & dancing all around it just to be right, but, leaving out the important detail. She can’t even answer a simple question, I have previously answered her about where she has worked in the past.
Have you met Billy Sheila? Do you know that he has had a “forced forgetting”? Is that in the same way that you know you love him, even though, according to you, he changes things and is forced to forget things & doesn’t really know what he’s talking about when it comes to chemtrails?
I’d like to suggest that we try to find more…common ground. Certainly disagreements are natural but I feel that the re are some essential understandings that are shared and it may be better to develop those and periodically reevaluate the differences from a more neutral perspective if possible.
I’m sorry but I must post this, if MH will indulge:
persistent rainbow chemarc
This warning should be spread near and far, who knew it was THIS dangerous?
Hi Randy, yes re-learning is hardest. Especially when we want to believe in something. The chemtrail thing is great, no one really knows but its obvious the jets are polluting tremendously. I would like a balloon to bring back air samples of what those clouds are made of. In the future we will know, but not now.
Hi Sheila, thank you for sticking your guns – and not letting the brow beating take you down like jack boots in the night (refers to Nazi Germany 1930’s). Matt has no answers, just gets on a box of soap and yells at everyone disagreeing with him, no curiosity at all, should use the box to wash his mouth out, hehe.
That post of the rainbow on the lawn, that was funny, its a joke people.
While at the beach last summer I saw a chemtrail made just off the beach head, it turned a copper color, very strange, no rainbow effect that should have occurred due to water vapor and light re-fraction. Then the jet that laid that trail circled back, and got in formation with another jet and they both flew through that copper color halo turning on the chemtrail prior to entry and turning off the chemtrail about 1/2 mile after exiting and that blew out the copper sheen the 1st trail left behind. It’s just what I saw, is that a conspiracy. FYI: the term conspiracy theory was thought up in a think tank to discredit people – so, Matt does not adhere to the spiritual teaching and rather discredit people. Matt will have many lifetimes to straighten his mind out – wonder what he eats for breakfast, Wheaties or rice puffs:)
Good luck with this bit of “re-learning” Bob…
Bob: “Weather modification is been going on since nearly the 1940s”
Me: “Absolutely, cloud seeding is well known, but, is a far cry from the Genocidal nightmare some people would like us all to have with Chemtrail conspiracies.”
Bob: “…is this stuff harmful for our health do you think?”
Me: “Seems to me that there is no cover-up when it comes to cloud-seeding as your video plainly shows.”
Bob: “Matt Knight, what do you think the jet trails are?”
Me: “There’s alot more going on with the atmosphere than can be determined with the eye alone”
Bob: “Agreed, no one knows the chemical make up of Jet Exhaust, thus, the term Chemtrail is valid”.
Me: “Then cars leave chemtrails…”
Perhaps he was struggling with them, but, there is evidence that Bob doesn’t actually read my responses:
Me: “Your observations are already telling a story & sound very flawed to me.”
Bob: “Thank you Matt, I hope I am very flawed”
Things then turn a little nasty…
Bob: “Those who ask questions and don’t take brow beatings for answers like Matt and Taro give out will learn more as time goes on.”
Seems Bob started talking about “beatings” before me. This theme continues…
Bob: “Well done Me one Furor her Matt”
Now I thought Bob was referring to his outburst (furore), but, he’s seems to enjoy the Nazi imagery so much that I guess he forgot that the word “Führer” just means “Leader” in German. Glad you acknowledged that Bob. However, in case we all missed his constant referrals to 1940’s German Nazism, he reminds us…
Bob: “Hi Sheila, thank you for sticking your guns – and not letting the brow beating take you down like jack boots in the night (refers to Nazi Germany 1930’s).”
Obsessed about 1940’s German much Bob? I don’t know if you heard but Europe moved on & all the clever Nazi’s ended up in the US & designed the engines you work with today. I do see the influence.
Bob: “Matt has no answers, just gets on a box of soap and yells at everyone disagreeing with him, no curiosity at all, should use the box to wash his mouth out, hehe.”
The Nazis used to like forced-washing too from what I remember. I think all my answers above refute your claim.
Well done you for confusing the message that Billy wanted to set straight about chemtrail conspiracies being absolute rubbish because you want to jump on this profitable conspiracy train rather than use your influence & knowledge in the industry to make people more aware of the harm of “jet contrails”. Auf Wiedersehen.
Hi Matt I would kindly ask you to please f*** off now.
Hi Sheila,
As suggested to Matt:
I’d like to suggest that we try to find more…common ground. Certainly disagreements are natural but I feel that there are some essential understandings that are shared and it may be better to develop those and periodically reevaluate the differences from a more neutral perspective if possible.
In other words, let’s all try to be a little kinder towards, and more understanding of, each other, as I think we need to remember that we’re primarily truth seekers here, which puts us mainly on the same side, disagreements notwithstanding.
Mike are you trying to show that disagreements are a part of your blog and resistance is futile?
No, Darcy. Disagreements are a part of life and, knowing that, I’m asking that we try to develop the common ground and be less aggressive and insulting towards each other, even while disagreeing.
Happy belated birthday Mike August 12 1943 makes you 72 years old.
Well thanks Darcy, I’m just going on what my said. Frankly, I don’t think I look or feel a day over 71 1/2.
NO WAY!!! You’re both having us on!! Michael doesn’t look a day over 42ish! ;-> Are you using an old photo, again, Michael?
Yeah, I was only 69 there.
Oh yeh!…. sort of like opening up presents at Christmas time and not being too rude to the givers.
Oh Sorry Sheila I didn’t realise you felt that way about me
Umm I like that number
No its not what you think.
I’m sorry for the confusion Matt, I have never felt that way about you. My comment was for Matt Knight…you know the Freemason defender guy.
Matt I think people are experiencing very hard times nowadays and they get overloaded with the fire going on in the third world.
Is that the love you were talking about Sheila? If you can’t be with the one you love… 🙂 https://youtu.be/Y9pwDbJKeSE
Hi Stephen Lane.
“If the atmosphere was to be sprayed why would one keep randomly turning it off and on? I don’t think high pressure pumps could tolerate that sort of abuse, they wouldn’t last long.”
Well from the reading Scott Stevens who is an award winning television weatherman who, a decade ago, began investigating the claims of Lt. Col Tom Bearden that North America was being subjected to full time weather modification. Who anyone can contact him and I have. He says.
The two most important reasons for the spraying ahead of a storm; first the thick contrails are flown looking for scalar interference immediately ahead of the storms EXPECTED path, up to several
hundred miles ahead. Helical twisting, broken trails, large evaporating gaps in the trails and vertical/horizontal contrail displacement reveal how much the atmosphere is being altered (heated/cooled/displaced) ahead of the storm so the military forecasters get additional direct observational data to improve their forecasts and know where to ‘fight back.’ The environment immediately ahead of a storm is ripe for the development of high cloudiness; with one of the stated agendas of contrails being solar reflection the pre-storm environment is an ideal location to do this work. With so many storms putting down amounts of rain that might cause flooding these drying/moisture-absorbing mixtures can be flown/injected immediately ahead of the storm front reducing the intensity of the severe weather attack.With the chemtrail/contrail marker flights so common in the Western hemisphere of influence one must then conclude that all governments, that allow these contrail marker over flights, know of the scalar war being waged in the skies above. This outright deceit of the public must end. We see these marking flights each and every day of the year, we now know why they are flown and demand a full accounting of the activities that occur in our skies. This is a technology, which because it affects everyone on this planet, rightly belongs to the people. It is readily apparent that those that have and use the scalar weaponry are incapable of using it for the betterment of mankind .
I can see he has lots of research with pics. He does explain what the different contrails mean.
I myself keep a open mind.
http://weatherwars.info/
Just playing with you Matt, you fell for it. haha!
You kidder & I thought I was just pointing out how little you really know… Oh you! 🙂
Another absurdity of the Chemtrail nonsense is that these proponents conflate the US with the entire world. Surely the US has most contrails because it has the most densely populated cities coupled with airports and people financially capable of flying on mass. I live in Osaka, a city of over 7 million in the prefecture, yet I have never seen a single contrail in 36 years here. So much for wanting to decimate the world’s population with poisonous contrails. Osaka’s as airport was specifically moved off shore down south so the major flights to Tokyo abd anywhere all miss the city proper.
When we realize that the world’s 7 – 8 billion people mostly do not live under contrails it becomes obvious that the conspiratorial global chemtrails proposition is really quite silly, or an unrecognized expression of paranoia.
There are plenty of valid criticisms for our powerful ones and leaders, but global Chemtrail genocide is obviously not one of them.
Thanks for that logic, reasoning and…breath of fresh air.
Mike can you tell me why Canada advertises a population of only 35 million people in 2015 when I know that was also the same population back when I was a kid?
I have no idea Darcy.
No idea, Darcy.
“Thanks for that logic, reasoning and…breath of fresh air.”
Fresh air? If only there were “fresh air” here. 🙂 Too many vehicles pumping around the city for fresh air in Osaka. Being near the coast and with near constant coastal winds it is not as bad as many major cities; but fresh air? If only. Still the Japanese are aware of the air, do care, and are producing ever more electric cars. There is hope. At least contrails are not conspiring to kill us all!
Hi MH, I just heard on c2c that George Noory said the Washington Post said that sooner or later we will have an energy grid catastrophe soon and that the White House and the Senate are finally looking into the energy grid problem. I just sent George Noory a noite toi say that you are also interstead in looking into the energy grid problem too. You might want to contact George at Coast to Coast AM. Mabey you can join George Noory about the energy grid too if you want to. There is also a senator who is also looking into the energy grid problem too.
Thanks Terry. Actually I sent him an email the other day showing Meier’s prophetic accuracy but I think they want to keep the entertainment going and not be confronted with Meier’s accuracy.
Darcy , MH
maybe this might shed some light
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/150929/cg-b001-eng.htm