Rising skeptical star eclipsed by super-nova, the dark, skeptical night illuminated by Germanic Jennifer’s close encounter with the truth
A young astronomer, who bills himself as a skeptic – rather than a scientist – may have bitten off more than he can…Chew*. Stuart Robbins, who specialized in targeting the flimsy claims of lightweight paranormal theorists, has himself been skewered – and embarrassingly so – by one of his own fellow skeptics.
Gravitational Collapse
On a recent blog Robbins again chose to go after Michael Horn’s claims regarding the evidence in the Billy Meier case. As the predictable attacking, skeptical responses mounted to Horn’s rebuttals, along with demands he prove that there was verifiable documentation from Wendelle Stevens to support Meier’s claims, an unexpected thing happened.
A German-speaking skeptic named Jennifer mentioned (post 93.) having read Meier’s German language book, ‘Existentes Leben im Universum’. The book, first published in 1978, not only accurately predicts the discovery of a then unknown comet and that it would be named Toutatis – it also contains Meier’s accurate prediction that two unknown planetoids beyond Pluto would be discovered around the turn of the century.
Thus, Jennifer becomes the first skeptic** to admit having read two examples of Meier’s prophetically accurate information, verifiably published years, and decades, before the “official discoveries” were made.
Robbins’ reaction to such stunning, heretical and personally embarrassing news supporting Meier’s authenticity, and to subsequent requests by Horn for accountable and professional, scientific conduct, was…stony silence. He had catapulted himself – and any credibility – into a black hole.
Volcanic Implications
The significance of this is even greater than it may seem. The issue under dispute at the point at which Jennifer serendipitously demolished Robbins’ pseudo-science, was Meier’s prophetically accurate information that Jupiter’s moon, Io, was the most volcanically active body in the solar system. The skeptics, of course, claimed that Meier either backdated, or retrodicted, the information.
The documentation that Horn provided rebuts such unfounded, defamatory claims, proves Wendelle Stevens’ prior possession of the information and also just happens to refer to, and confirm, the prophetically accurate Pluto information.
Could one ask for anything more? Well, even if they didn’t, indeed more exists.
And Now, Back to the Future
Meier actually first predicted the discoveries regarding Pluto’s satellites…in 1958. That makes a chain of three publications foretelling the planetoids beyond Pluto, going back to 1958.
Wouldn’t it be wise to study the rest of the prophecies contained in Meier’s two letters (going back to 1951) as well as all of the other prophetic and predictive information he’s since published…and try to make some course corrections in time?
Wouldn’t it especially be prudent to (re)visit the Henoch Prophecies and what they bode for America (and the rest of the world), especially in light of rather foreboding information pertaining to possible forthcoming attacks from Russia? Even for those who can handle the truth, the implications are both mind-blowing and frightening.
Gaseous Clouds
It’s time that Robbins, Phil Plait, Stephen Novella, Michael Shermer, James Randi, Seth Shostak et al, stop their adolescent snickering, and their portraying of Meier as some kook. The unimaginable havoc and damage from the impact of the Red Meteor, aka asteroid Apophis, could be another cost of their cynicism.
So long as Robbins, who’s gone from seeking the starlight to being stuck like a deer in the headlights, continues to define himself as a skeptic he will remain a pseudo-scientist, like his cohorts. And until we have evidence to the contrary, perhaps the conjecture that *Chew and Stu and maybe a few…other anonymous skeptics are one in the same person may not really be such a wild one – at least for a skeptic, right?
**Jennifer is not however the first skeptic to help support the authenticity of the Billy Meier UFO contacts. Please see this information.
NOTE: Please also see the Comments sections here and here for examples of what happens when either Robbins, or his equally pseudo-scientific supporters venture outside of the relative safety of their cultic online compounds.
Hello Michael, I spent time yesterday reading some posts on Stuarts blog that you offered links to, and I must say that there is an old saying that these posts brought to my mind,”It’s tough to fly like an Eagle when you find youself surrounded by Turkeys”. I understand that the tipping point for anyone that spends the time researching the Billy Meier story will be different and I certainly do not consider myself a scientific intellecual although I find myself wanting to learn more the more I read the contact notes. When it comes to reading or watching movies I can honestly say that I find the more times I read or watch the same thing over again I pick up something I missed the time before.That being said I wanted to share with you what was the tipping point for me and it had nothing to do with scientific information or the accurate predictions or prophetic information etc. that most of the skeptics get hung up on. In the notes from contact #220 on 12/2/87 the last question Billy was able to have answered by Quetzal had to do with the legendary Celtic kingdom of Noricum and the blood sacrifices to their sea God Bedaius. In the conversation Quetzal explains that the blood was collected from the severed carotid artery of the virgin sacrificed into an 18 carat gold bowl that weighed a little more than 10 kilograms and was decorated all around by Celtic cult-motifs and that it had a diameter of about 50 centimeters. Quetzal then explains that the sacrificial site was destroyed and that the bowl sank into the waters of the lake (Lake Chiem),Billy then states that the bowl must still be lying on the bottom of the lake somewhere and must have a horrendous value, to which Quetzal replied that he knows that the bowl still sits only approx. 80 meters from the shoreline of the lake at a place called Arlaching and that if Billy is interested he could help Billy recover the bowl as if it were to be sold it would certainly bring a large sum of money that could help fund the mission and Billy personally. Billy them explains that he would not be interested in that because he did not wish to enrich himself illegally and that this property would be protected as an antique and could make him liable to prosecution and besides he is of the view that he must fulfill his task through his own strength and by honest means and in a modest manner and that he is content with what he already has and has no desire for fortune or other great posessions.After reading this contact note I did some research and found an article from Spiegel Online written by Sven Robel on 4/23/2007 Titled “The Mystery of the Nazi Holy Grail” about a mysterious golden pot discovered in a Bavarian lake in 2001 and how it has been the focus of interest for archaeologists, art dealers, and now the German and Swiss police.The article tells the story about the Celtic artifact being found by a hobby diver while driving off of the beach near the town of Arlaching. The bowl was made of 11 kilograms of gold decorated with Celtic ornaments and said to more than 2,000 years old.I would guess that Stuart or any of his followers might suggest that Billy must have back dated this contact note, or somehow fashioned this artifact himself and threw it into the lake himself in order for this to appear to be a legitimate example of his contact with the Plejaren Quetzal. Thank you for all that you are and have been doing to try to bring the truth to the Earthworm masses, as I for one am greatful for your efforts and am comitted to being a student of the teachings of the truth and will forever be a fan of the Keeper Of the Treasure.
I predict that even more bodies will be found outside of the orbit of Pluto.
Geeze Dr. Mick, you’re only a day late and a dollar short. I don’t think mimicking is going to get you any browny points.
Then don’t ‘predict’ the inevitable.
I find it funny that you’re not even a doctor but put Dr. in front of your name to make yourself look impotent.
The evidence:
http://www.skepticblog.org/2011/08/16/folk-wisdom-medicine-versus-science-based-medicine/#comment-63388
“I found it rather telling, for example, that when I identified myself as “Dr. Shermer” I got faster results at the hospital than when I was merely “Mr. Shermer” (a lie of omission, not commission, since I do have a Ph.D.), but I still found it difficult to get calls returned.”
I have eared the title Doctor. So you reply “of course you have” right. And it’s important not importent.
It was not a spelling error.
That’s not me posting. It’s earned not eared.
Will the real or imagined Dr. Mick please step forward.
If Dr. Mick was actually fully conversant with the voluminous, prophetically accurate information, covering a wide and diverse array of sciences, etc. – he wouldn’t make such easily dismissed, meaningless comments.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.
If Dr. Mick believed what I believe he would think what I think. Evidence is NOT proof. When will you get that?
Why are you talking about yourself in a third party form? Does that mean you have dual personalities?
Let’s put it another way. Don’t predict trivia.
Perhaps if “Dr. Mick” lives in the greater European area he may have the opportunity to reconsider if predicting the Red Meteor, or the invasions by Russian troops from the very obscure location Meier foretold – back in 1987 – is really “trivia”.
Of course if he actually reads the entire compilation at:
http://theyfly.com/WILL_HUMANITY_WAKE_UP.html
…he may have to redefine what is trivial entirely.
Dare I suggest that the self-described “Dr.” (he’s probably lying, of course) isn’t a doctor in any field that requires scientific methodology?
I think he should rush right over and read:
http://theyfly.com/Contact-Report-210.html
…and then practice, practice, practice those three little words. Using a mirror may prove both helpful and refreshingly entertaining.
Justsayno
“I find it funny that you’re not even a doctor but put Dr. in front of your name”
You see the problem with opinion substituting for evidence. I think you just summed this site up. Thanks.
MH
“self-described “Dr. (he’s probably lying, of course)”
You are as bad as the rest of them. I’m afraid I suspect your morality as well as your judgement. Billy Meiers may well be onto something but you are no spokesperson for this. You should look at yourself first and Wake Up. You are no Spiritually enlightened being you are a parasitic and dangerous charlatan. But like Justsayno thank you for making it apparent.
Well it looks like the “Dr.” couldn’t take his own medicine. The lying thing was simply tossed out to see how those who snipe, attack, criticize, defame – all safely anonymously – sure don’t like their very imaginary “character” being called into question.
Hey pal, put your (verifiable) information, i.e. name, face, location, website if any, etc. before any more of your comments will be posted. Of course this gives you a convenient opportunity to NOT submit any more.
Oh, and while “lying” was just a tease, calling you a coward isn’t. Not clear? You’re a coward. Got it now?
NOTE: Naturally, it turns out that the so-called “Dr. Mick” is also a fictional person who uses “spoofed” email addresses. Of course I allow criticisms, challenges, questions, etc, including from people using screen names. But I don’t allow defamatory comments form anonymous people hiding behind screen names. And it’s defamatory if there’s no substantiation for the charges.
So anyone wanting to attack in that manner will need to be thoroughly, verifiably transparent, i.e. post using their real name, along with a photo and their location…as well as substantiation for their charges.
Real Doctor – despite your accusations.
Prove it. “My accusations” are not the problem, your making unsupported claims is.
Prove you are Michael Horn.
Prove you are Michael Horn!
You see Michael, there is no such thing as proof, only belief. The scientists cannot prove you wrong and you cannot prove you right. They cannot even prove that they are right and you cannot prove they are wrong. Even science is just a belief system. When scientists say they have proved something, they just mean ‘satisfied themselves enough to believe it is correct’. Like wise with your stance. But if you have to delete posts to maintain your stance then your belief must be weak.